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  posted on 6/10/2008 at 09:43 AM
highway to heck, big hats, let me say i love you, all the new PMRC / wally world friendly versions of the ac/dc classics...
 

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  posted on 6/10/2008 at 09:49 AM
It's only the new release that will be exclusive. All the others will remain as is. Plus Walmart has always sold AC/DC CD's.

As far as AC/DC songs, they are not even close to the filthy words that is put out by "some" Rap artist.

 

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  posted on 6/10/2008 at 09:49 AM
Walmart huh....................well you want have to remind me not to buy it.

 

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Family Farm Defenders : Local Food Systems / Wal-Mart--The Quintessential Suburban Nightmare


Wal-Mart is the world&#8217;s largest retailer &#8211; with 1489 mega-stores, 1397 Super Centers, 532 Sam's Clubs, and 56 neigborhood markets in the U.S alone as of 2003, and close to a tousand more abroad from Argentina to Germany. In fact, Wal-Mart is now the single largest private employer in the U.S. with 1.1 million "associates" and higher earnings than the gross national product (GNP) of 150 countries! In 2003 Wal-mart sold 19% of all groceries in the U.S. and recorded $9 billion in profits. Of the top fifteen richest people in the world, five are Wal-Mart heirs. The Walton family with its $90 billion is ranked among the richest in the world &#8211; along with Microsoft&#8217;s Bill Gates, and Saudi Royal Prince, Alwaleed Bin Talal Alsaud.

Wal-Mart Exploits Children in Overseas Sweatshops


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Wal-Mart Also Exploits Its Own Workers in the U.S.!


While, those sitting on Wal-Mart&#8217;s board of directors earn a whopping $1500/day for their &#8220;hard work,&#8221; the rest of the workforce languishes among America&#8217;s working poor. Just like China, Wal-Mart forbids its workers to organize a labor union. Instead, Wal-Mart&#8217;s 1.1 million &#8220;associates&#8221; are stuck in "dead-end" part-time positions, earning on average less than $14,000 per year (well below the federal poverty threshold for a family of three) and many end up qualifying for federal assistance programs. According to a May 2004 study by Good Jobs First based in Washington, DC, these public subsidies to Wal-Mart exceed $1 billion annually. A typical Wal-Mart store with 200 employees costs taxpayers $420,750 each year in the form of:


$9,750 for low income energy assistance $36,000 for free and reduced public school lunches $42,000 for housing assistance $100,000 for service to at-risk students $108,000 for health care subsidies $125,000 for low income tax credits and deductions

Wal-Mart Destroys Farmland and Aggravates Sprawl


Sprawl destroys more than 2.2 million acres of parks, farmland, and open space each year. In southeastern WI, home to some of the best topsoil in the Midwest, an estimated ten square miles is lost to developers each year. A chief culprit behind sprawl is &#8220;big box&#8221; retailers like Wal-Mart, which have no qualms about bullying their way through local zoning boards and leveraging hefty handouts. A recent study by the Institute on Taxation and Economic Policy (ITEP) found that taxpayer subsidies greatly encouraged sprawl in the Twin Cities metro area &#8211; with the additional expense of providing services to new stripmalls and superstores never being made up by new taxes. Meanwhile, family farmers and other rural folks that become unwilling Wal-Mart &#8220;neighbors&#8221; have to cope with inflated property values, increased road congestion, and real estate speculation.

Wal-Mart Destroys Small Town America


A study of small towns in Iowa by Prof. Ken Stone revealed a loss of over 7,300 businesses from 1983 to 1993 due to a radical shift in consumer spending to chainstores like Wal-Mart. Five years after a superstore opens, small towns within twenty miles experience a 19% decline in business. Rather than building in existing urban centers, Wal-Mart has pursued greener pastures. "Our key strategy," Walton wrote, "was simply to put good-sized discount stores into little one-horse towns which everybody else was ignoring... there was much, much more business out there in small town America than anybody, including me, had ever dreamed of." For every 100 Wal-Mart jobs created, it is estimated another 150 jobs are lost. Thanks to Wal-Mart&#8217;s cutthroat competition, small town business districts are now boarded up and largely deserted.

Let Wal-Mart Know How You Feel About Their Predatory Practices!


Mr. David Glass, President & CEO
Wal-Mart
702 SW 8th Street
Bentonville, AR 72716
phone: (501) 273-4000
fax: (501) 273-4894
email: letters@wal-mart.com

Useful Activist Resources:

http://edworkforce.house.gov/democrats/WALMARTREPORT.pdf
James Kuhn. &#8220;The Geography of Nowhere.&#8221;
Stacey Mitchell. &#8220;The Hometown Advantage.&#8221;
Al Norman. &#8220;Slam Dunking Wal-Mart - How You Can Stop Superstore Sprawl in Your Hometown.&#8221;
Bill Quinn. &#8220;How Wal-Mart Is Destroying The World - And What You Can Do About It.&#8221;
Good Jobs First http://www.goodjobsfirst.org
Institute for Self Reliance http://www.newrules.org #612-379-3815
National Labor Committee http://www.nlcnet.org #212-242-3002
Sprawl Busters http://www.sprawl-busters.com #413-772-6289
Trust for Public Land. http://www.tpl.org # 415-495-4014

This factsheet is produced as a public service by the:

Madison Infoshop, 1019 Williamson St., Madison WI 53703 #608-262-9036
- a fully unionized jobshop! (IWW I.U. 620)
http://www.madisoninfoshop.org

 

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  posted on 6/10/2008 at 10:49 AM
I dont really care because I probably wont buy it anyways
 

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  posted on 6/10/2008 at 11:47 AM
Here's something to watch, listen and read. Granted they are from leftist news organizations...

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/walmart/view/

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=1572652

http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2007/04/02/070402fa_fact_goldberg

My daughter's sociology class last semester dealt with Wal-Mart. Wal-Mart tried to get the lawn mower maker Snapper to lower its price. Snapper said that to lower their price they would have to either make a product of less quality or ship the work overseas. Snapper chose to terminate their contract with Wal-Mart rather than do those things. It was a big financial hit for them but they survived. She also had stories about how Wal-Mart has helped the little inventer/investor.

 

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Here's something to watch, listen and read. Granted they are from leftist news organizations...

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/walmart/view/

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=1572652

http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2007/04/02/070402fa_fact_goldberg

My daughter's sociology class last semester dealt with Wal-Mart. Wal-Mart tried to get the lawn mower maker Snapper to lower its price. Snapper said that to lower their price they would have to either make a product of less quality or ship the work overseas. Snapper chose to terminate their contract with Wal-Mart rather than do those things. It was a big financial hit for them but they survived. She also had stories about how Wal-Mart has helped the little inventer/investor.



I like frozen California Kitchen pizzas. When they 1st went on the shelf at Wal Mart, they were great. After several months it really obvious the quality has suffered, ALOT and I'm speculating it was to reach higher production quotas which Wal Mart placed on them in order to keep them in the store.

 

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  posted on 6/10/2008 at 12:08 PM
Our family owns a small business. When asked once if we would do business with Walmart, my father and brother screamed HELL NO!!!!!

I wish I could find a list of companies involved with selling to Walmart that are now bankrupted.


They will give you a order, then when they get their shipment, they will start deducting fees, such as administrative, stocking, storage, etc. from your invoice. Then take another 10%-20% off just because they know you cannot sell it anywhere else. Then after a certain amount of days its in their inventory, Walmart will pack it up, send it back to you and charge you the shipping.They are also known to cancel your order after you have increased your costs to do business with them. They have canceled their order when small companies have their order on the water.

As far as I am concerned, they could not close their doors fast enough. I have always said, nothing is forever. Their day will come. Remember when Sears was #1. JC Penny was #1
Then there was Woolco.....where are they now.....



 

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  posted on 6/10/2008 at 12:54 PM
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As far as I am concerned, they could not close their doors fast enough. I have always said, nothing is forever. Their day will come. Remember when Sears was #1. JC Penny was #1
Then there was Woolco.....where are they now.....


Sears is still open with their overpriced merchandise. J.C. Penny was no bargain either, unless you went to the outlet stores. Woolco I never cared for in the first place.

Long Live Walmart ! They make my wallet happy.

 

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  posted on 6/10/2008 at 02:18 PM
again not even sure why that is upsetting-i don't even buy music anymore

its better to share it

www.limewire.com BABY!!

and i will go see ac/dc when they come to NY!

 

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  posted on 6/10/2008 at 11:12 PM
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Long Live Walmart ! They make my wallet happy.


to hell with the little kids in sweat shops

 

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Love how this thread has turned into a Wal-Mart bashing. Of course, it's easier to do that than to discuss "why" recording artists might want to deal directly with Wal-Mart instead of letting record companies sell their CDs. I'm not a big Wal-Mart fan, but I do understand with the way the recording industry is nowadays that many artists are taking control of all aspects of their recording careers, and distribution of their recording is just one of those areas. The "Mom and Pop" record stores are long gone, killed off primarily by the chain stores that use to sell records/CDs and now they're pretty much out of business. Fact of the matter, there's really not to many places that sell CDs anymore, so if I was an artist, I would be cutting an "exclusive deal" with whoever I thought could do the best job of selling my recordings, and right now that appears to be Wal-Mart.
 

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  posted on 6/10/2008 at 11:49 PM
i'll just sit back and wait for the lawsuits to start coming in when these artists
get treated like the rest of walmart's suppliers

 

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  posted on 6/11/2008 at 07:43 AM
I'm gonna have to jump on the Wal-Mart bashing bandwagon here. sibwlker says, "there's really not too many places that sell CD's anymore, so if I was an artist, I would be cutting an 'exclusive deal' with whoever I thought could do the best job of selling my recordings, and right now that appears to be Wal-Mart."

Oh, how low we have swung. What happened to rock bands that believed in a cause and got behind it? Like maybe a HUGE, influential hard rock act like AC/DC helping to keep smaller independent retailers alive by not bending to the large conglomerate? Bash me for saying so, but have we really gone that far in rock 'n' roll that a grassroots cause is completely passe anymore? I have no respect for The Eagles, AC/DC, etc for doing this. There are thousands of small market, unknown bands whose CD's are only going to get sold in a small, independent store.

The Eagles and AC/DC are playing it safe. Obviously they are only concerned with their own bank accounts and not carrying the cross for good, struggling, unknown bands to get their product out there. But then, The Eagles and AC/DC play it safe in the studio, too. Do you ever expect to hear anything much different musically in a new release from either? I can't give them a pass here.

It used to be, a cause meant something. THIS IS AN ABB WEBSITE. Have you folks all forgotten how groundbreaking Duane, Gregg, Berry, Butch, Dickey and Jaimoe were? The record companies all told them: "Get that pretty blonde boy out from behind the organ and out front. Write some pop hits. We'll be behind you all the way."
Their response was a huge, collective, "F*CK YOU". They were playing blues and jazz to rock audiences, and there really wasn't much of a market for it in 1969. They traveled all the way across the U.S. with all their equipment IN A SINGLE ECONOLINE VAN for a gig at The Fillmore West. When it came time to cross the Golden Gate bridge into San Francisco, they were so broke they had to stand out on the road and bum the 50 cents toll fee. But they never compromised the music.

I want to know..............what happened to that kind of devotion in the music business? It still exists in the hearts of poor musicians, but bands like The Eagles and AC/DC are doing nothing to further their cause, only to make them poorer still. Is Wal-Mart going to carry Calexico or Luce? Have you ever heard of those great bands? I bought both of their CD's at Tower Records before they went out of business. Tower may have been huge, but they carried MUSIC, and lots of it.

I'm done with my rant, but let me add one thing: I bought a California Kitchen frozen pizza last year and was shocked at how horrible it was. According to Haisija, Wal-Mart is the one which ruined the quality. Can't you see the parallel going on in the music business, people?

 

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  posted on 6/11/2008 at 07:56 AM
Do they promise to only play the music in Wal-mart? Hope so.

I am suprised that people are discovering that AC/DC are in it for the money. They play the same song that they have re-written for years and a guy nearing his 50s (or already there) dresses like a school boy. We are supposed to think they are serious?

It's fun and if you like it then go to town. To me. it was silly long ago. very fitting to see a clip of them with the Stones. Both spend about 20 minutes writting songs for their studio albums. Then they sit back and laugh and the notion that people will pay for it.

At least AC/DC never played a song as bad as Emotional Rescue.

 

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I am suprised that people are discovering that AC/DC are in it for the money. They play the same song that they have re-written for years and a guy nearing his 50s (or already there) dresses like a school boy. We are supposed to think they are serious?

This is different from other bands how? I know bands that have made their careers playing the same songs over and over and over again with out bothering to try and come up with new material

It's fun and if you like it then go to town. To me. it was silly long ago. very fitting to see a clip of them with the Stones. Both spend about 20 minutes writting songs for their studio albums. Then they sit back and laugh and the notion that people will pay for it.

At least they took 20 minutes to actually try to write something and try to put out new stuff.

At least AC/DC never played a song as bad as Emotional Rescue.


I do agree with you on the emotional rescue..............yuck!



[Edited on 6/11/2008 by enlightenrogue1016]

 

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Do they promise to only play the music in Wal-mart? Hope so.

I am suprised that people are discovering that AC/DC are in it for the money. They play the same song that they have re-written for years and a guy nearing his 50s (or already there) dresses like a school boy. We are supposed to think they are serious?

It's fun and if you like it then go to town. To me. it was silly long ago. very fitting to see a clip of them with the Stones. Both spend about 20 minutes writting songs for their studio albums. Then they sit back and laugh and the notion that people will pay for it.

At least AC/DC never played a song as bad as Emotional Rescue.


Does that mean I'm some kind of idiot for liking them as much as I have.

I could give a rats a$$ about how long it took them to write a song. I pay for it, it's my damn money.

and who the hell ever took AC/DC serious...I just rocked to there music.

[Edited on 6/11/2008 by OldDirtRoad]

 

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I'm gonna have to jump on the Wal-Mart bashing bandwagon here. sibwlker says, "there's really not too many places that sell CD's anymore, so if I was an artist, I would be cutting an 'exclusive deal' with whoever I thought could do the best job of selling my recordings, and right now that appears to be Wal-Mart."

Oh, how low we have swung. What happened to rock bands that believed in a cause and got behind it? Like maybe a HUGE, influential hard rock act like AC/DC helping to keep smaller independent retailers alive by not bending to the large conglomerate? Bash me for saying so, but have we really gone that far in rock 'n' roll that a grassroots cause is completely passe anymore? I have no respect for The Eagles, AC/DC, etc for doing this. There are thousands of small market, unknown bands whose CD's are only going to get sold in a small, independent store.

The Eagles and AC/DC are playing it safe. Obviously they are only concerned with their own bank accounts and not carrying the cross for good, struggling, unknown bands to get their product out there. But then, The Eagles and AC/DC play it safe in the studio, too. Do you ever expect to hear anything much different musically in a new release from either? I can't give them a pass here.

It used to be, a cause meant something. THIS IS AN ABB WEBSITE. Have you folks all forgotten how groundbreaking Duane, Gregg, Berry, Butch, Dickey and Jaimoe were? The record companies all told them: "Get that pretty blonde boy out from behind the organ and out front. Write some pop hits. We'll be behind you all the way."
Their response was a huge, collective, "F*CK YOU". They were playing blues and jazz to rock audiences, and there really wasn't much of a market for it in 1969. They traveled all the way across the U.S. with all their equipment IN A SINGLE ECONOLINE VAN for a gig at The Fillmore West. When it came time to cross the Golden Gate bridge into San Francisco, they were so broke they had to stand out on the road and bum the 50 cents toll fee. But they never compromised the music.

I want to know..............what happened to that kind of devotion in the music business? It still exists in the hearts of poor musicians, but bands like The Eagles and AC/DC are doing nothing to further their cause, only to make them poorer still. Is Wal-Mart going to carry Calexico or Luce? Have you ever heard of those great bands? I bought both of their CD's at Tower Records before they went out of business. Tower may have been huge, but they carried MUSIC, and lots of it.

I'm done with my rant, but let me add one thing: I bought a California Kitchen frozen pizza last year and was shocked at how horrible it was. According to Haisija, Wal-Mart is the one which ruined the quality. Can't you see the parallel going on in the music business, people?


1969 was 39 years ago, a lot of things changed.

Calexico or Luce...sounds like an anti-depressent.


 

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You gotta love all of the business and music experts on this site sometimes, wow, wish I was as smart as you guys.

Smart business decision by AC/DC, as was The Eagles with their cd marketed through Wal-Mart. At this point in their career, they are no different than anyone else trying for the big last payday before retirement sets in.

 

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You gotta love all of the business and music experts on this site sometimes, wow, wish I was as smart as you guys.

Smart business decision by AC/DC, as was The Eagles with their cd marketed through Wal-Mart. At this point in their career, they are no different than anyone else trying for the big last payday before retirement sets in.


Right on Wayne, how many old bands are still out there just because of the music. They want to get paid just like everyone else. You get adjusted to a high living life style and you have to keep the money coming in.

When I bought "Hittin' the note" I got about a months(if that long) enjoyment out of it. Now it's sits with the CD's that never get played anymore. I'm sure the band really spent a lot of time making that CD. Some old Mule songs, a cover and an instrumental that to me sounded endless. ABB want their payday like anyone else. I'm glad for the folks that thought it was a great CD.


If it was not Walmart, it would be something else to cry and whine about. It's the American way now...booo effin' hoo.

Let's go to Walmart. and by a Pizza !!!

[Edited on 6/11/2008 by OldDirtRoad]

 

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Let's go to Walmart. and by a Pizza !!!


I recomend the 4 Cheese and the Sicilian, bake at 410 degrees instead of 400 and for 13 minutes vs the recomended 11 minutes.
I still eat one everynight when I get home from work, still it ain't what it was a while back.
The crust has changed quite a bit and less sauce is being put on them.
This is the the thin crust variety, haven't tried any others.
I did try a few different brands a few times and they even lacked CPK's even at what I think is a lower quality pizza than what they had one put on the shelf...or in the freezer.

I'm a nut for Sirachha (????) chili garlic sauce. Used to only be able to get it in Asian markets...now WM has it....ain't the same. Sad.

 

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Wal-Mart has never played fair.

 

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For most big music acts, it's all about the $, maintaining expensive lifestyles, etc. Now as a sax player and guitarist, I'm still a fan of EARLY Chicago (Terry Kath era), when they were a semi-jam band. The time for them to break up was when Kath died. They have never been the same. But at the time (1978), there were lifestyles to maintain, drug habits to fuel and all that. As people have left the band, there has been one poorer-quality replacement after another. The band will live forever, eventually playing your local summer fest, LOL. $ is $ and the original members and their families (who own the rights to the name, etc. and half the time don't show up for concerts - subs are used) are used to a certain annual cash flow.

Point, for many acts, it's all about the $ - the Eagles are probably the worst with their $500 Las Vegas tickets. But AC/DC, "Chicago," all these others are no different. If Wal-Mart can get them more $ in a changing music business, they will do it.

 

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  posted on 6/11/2008 at 09:40 AM
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Wal-Mart has never played fair.


I like that one, they play fair when I walk out and save money as opposed to the other local stores.

If the employee's don't make enough money or have good enough benefits, they need to take their a$$ out and find a new job. No one handcuffs them to work there. Thats the way I have done, if I did not like a job or the pay....whatever...I go and find something I like. I have been with the same company for 21 years...because I like it. We have had our ups and downs. I know folks that work for Walmart..at least 4. None of them complain at all. Actually they seem happy there.

But of course the folks that do no shop there or work there know more than anyone else. Those kind of folks usually have an answer for all the worlds problems.

I love all this Walmart hating, I think it's hilarious.

 

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Do they promise to only play the music in Wal-mart? Hope so.

I am suprised that people are discovering that AC/DC are in it for the money. They play the same song that they have re-written for years and a guy nearing his 50s (or already there) dresses like a school boy. We are supposed to think they are serious?

It's fun and if you like it then go to town. To me. it was silly long ago. very fitting to see a clip of them with the Stones. Both spend about 20 minutes writting songs for their studio albums. Then they sit back and laugh and the notion that people will pay for it.

At least AC/DC never played a song as bad as Emotional Rescue.


Does that mean I'm some kind of idiot for liking them as much as I have.

I could give a rats a$$ about how long it took them to write a song. I pay for it, it's my damn money.

and who the hell ever took AC/DC serious...I just rocked to there music.

[Edited on 6/11/2008 by OldDirtRoad]


Not an idiot at all. Just someone who likes the AC/DC song. As we have said before, all that really matters is if you like it. No one can take that away. As mentioned, many bands have just written the same song over and over but not many with the consistancy of AC/DC. I mean even they make jokes about it.

But if you love it then go for it. The Ramones had a long career playing the same song over and over.

This can be a smart strategy because the core fans keep coming and buying. They also must get a laugh when malcolm shows them his new song. Not like they need to learn it.

My point was that some seem to have lost respect for what they do because they sell the disc at Walmart. How much respect is a band with a grown man dressed as a child asking for? None. Besides it doesn't matter where you sell it, the music will be the same.

They put out product so that they can tour and get big bucks. Nothing wrong with that at all. I just think that instead of laughing about their own music just being thrown together, they should try and concentrate on making a killer album. As with the Stones, I feel that they stopped doing that long ago. Right around Back in Black. I really haven't liked much since but I much prefer Bon to some guy who screeches and whose voice was blown out long ago.

 

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