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  posted on 1/1/2018 at 01:42 PM
I know, and respect, that the Allman Brothers Band has a longstanding policy of not allowing electronic online trading of their shows. With Gregg and Butch’s recent passing, who within the organization could change this policy? There are many wonderful shows available, and their distribution via the current means of trading music makes sense if the band would allow.

Rowland, Since you posted the below FAQs, do you expect a change in this policy? Who could change this and is it reasonable to ask?

From the FAQs:

Does the ABB allow electronic online trading of their shows?

No. The ABB have long been on record as being against electronic file sharing.
Please bear with me, I'm only trying to do things right....Does the FAQ answer below mean that electronic files sent by mail are OK? (not online) Does this apply to person-to-person "etrades"?(where you send a specific person the electronic files?) Thanks for your patience & help! William" Does the ABB allow electronic online trading of their shows?

No. The ABB do not support trading of this type at all.

Why?

It's a great time and a challenging time for artists. Most of us do something to pay the rent. Consider if your boss could download what you do from the Internet for free and pay you nothing. I think for most of us this would be a rather scary thought.

The ABB originally bought into the idea of tape trading because it is one-to-one, no money changes hands, and with each trade the tape quality declines, so the amount of first rate source material for bootleggers in theory is not that great.

We all know that technology has marched on and with DAT's and CDR's, the ABB has had to accept that the quality of shows generally does not decline with successive trades, but at least it's still one-to-one and most traders are not going to knowingly trade with a commercial bootlegger.

Now enter FTP -- the last protection from widespread, free distribution of the ABB's intellectual property, from one source to unlimited destinations, goes away.

While I am a technologist and the idea of downloading files and burning CD's is great to me, I totally respect the ABB's feelings about their intellectual property and their decision to not allow electronic file sharing of their music. In fact, I am grateful that they still support fans sharing music and support a tape trading section here on their official site -- keep in mind that MOST artists do not do this!

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  posted on 1/4/2018 at 12:42 PM
As I stated below, I will respect the Band's collective policy, but is it time for a change? If so, who can make the decision?

Since there have been discussions about new archive releases coming out, I would think they will want to continue the policy of not allowing online trading/downloading.

Does anyone have an opinion on this?

 

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  posted on 1/4/2018 at 02:24 PM
Good question. I wonder the same.
Still looking for copy of my first show....
ABB 7-20-05 *cough cough*................

 

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  posted on 1/4/2018 at 03:10 PM
I always assumed the policy was in response to mp3 sharing platforms like Napster during the infancy of music file sharing. I always felt the band had a fear that allowing online trading of shows would open the floodgates to sharing of commercial releases online. I don't think the band and management ever bothered to update their position as technology changed, especially after their Instant Live and Munck Music deals, because today what is the difference between sharing digital files on a disc in the mail or via dropbox download? Effort and a stamp. But are you going to shell out the money for the official Fox Box release or quickly download the traded boot for free.

 

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  posted on 1/4/2018 at 04:50 PM
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Good question. I wonder the same.
Still looking for copy of my first show....
ABB 7-20-05 *cough cough*................


Go here, and email someone who has a copy of it and ask if they will trade you for it, or do a B&P where you send them blank CDs with return postage.

http://db.etree.org/lookup_show.php?shows_key=270014&show_users=true

Or check on ebay, as someone may sell their copy of the instant live for that show.

 

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  posted on 1/4/2018 at 05:20 PM
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Good question. I wonder the same.
Still looking for copy of my first show....
ABB 7-20-05 *cough cough*................



I have it if I can find it.

 

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Good question. I wonder the same.
Still looking for copy of my first show....
ABB 7-20-05 *cough cough*................



I have it if I can find it.


I found it.

Good news for you it's an extra Instant Live sbd.



PM me your address and I'll send it to you.


 

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  posted on 1/4/2018 at 06:29 PM
Well for possible future releases, they are available for download as is their entire discography. Staring at it on Spotify right now.

No one will ever openly say to just hand pass around files. you could load their entire career on a HD. LOL

Now people will say that they wouldn't do that. But many do right now.

any band can never really control it but I understand why they wouldn't say........go ahead.

Instant Lives leaked everywhere too and were passed around 9traded) in stealth. But they have to stick to their guns and make a living.

 

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  posted on 1/4/2018 at 06:57 PM
I am willing to pay for live shows on the condition they are mixed good.
My understanding is Gregg kept a vault of material.
I'm interested in all of the lineups as well as solo stuff.
The Grateful Dead business model seems to have worked well.
If Devon and family decide to put stuff out I'm on board.

 

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  posted on 1/10/2018 at 04:45 PM
anthonyspare where are you?

 

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