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  posted on 7/11/2017 at 02:06 PM
in the blues genre?

I can only come up with a couple potential candidates.

Any suggestions for some new music?

 
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  posted on 7/28/2017 at 07:12 PM
Jimi Page on his blues stuff and Rick Vito playing solid blues numbers-not sure what his original songs are like but next to Peter Green-really knows how to play.
 

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  posted on 7/28/2017 at 11:09 AM
Lot's of great guitar players out there now. I don't think the song writing is what it use to be.

 

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  posted on 7/28/2017 at 11:01 AM
This Gent opened for Sonny and had a nice set, I was sadly tardy (lost word w/new liberal applications?) and erred unthinkably double clicking the record button and got off sequence and had camera in stand by mode for his last 2 songs and the encore was energetic with teeth playing and inspired jamming. I suck! I was zooming in and out with a nice attempted capture and the camera was giggling at me? A lost opportunity that I regret. He got a late start and has a few discs out already. Here's a tune by Toronzo Cannon.

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  posted on 7/16/2017 at 01:13 PM
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"Gary Clark Jr. can do that, but I haven't heard a really memorable song from him yet."

I think this was a totally legit criticism of Clark until his last studio album, The Story Of Sonny Boy Slim. I think that album represents a new level of songwriting for him. Your mileage may vary on that, but check it out if you haven't heard it.

I'll have to give it a listen in that case.

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For my money he really is the only person in the "blues guitar god" slot right now who is innovating and doing something interesting. If anything, a lot of blues purists don't like him because he mixes it up TOO much.
[...] It feels to me like Clark is reclaiming the blues as black music. Why shouldn't it be mixed with other popular forms of African-American music like hip-hop? Because a bunch of white blues fans don't like it? That doesn't seem like a very good reason.

Co-signing all of this. Blues is one of those genres that was developed primarily by black people and the fan base and economics are such that it's overwhelmingly played and listened to by white people now. People can like what they like, obviously, but I like to see a younger black man taking an interest in the style and doing it really well.

 

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  posted on 7/16/2017 at 08:39 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m1SccwHZamI

And here's two more of my favorite Bay area gunslingers. NO, Daniel Castro and Tommy Castro are not related.

 

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  posted on 7/16/2017 at 06:24 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ykBXnfZBL2A

If you've got six minutes, please check out Mr. Cain. Unfortunately if you live outside of the Bay area it's likely you don't know who Chris Cain is. I've only been listening to him for 33 years. But truth is, he's got fans all over the world including New York, Chicago and Portland, Oregon. He just got back from a Festival in New Zealand. Two years ago they played Buddy Guy's Legends in Chitown. If you don't think he's the real deal.........well, then.......I guess we just have a big difference of opinion.

 

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  posted on 7/16/2017 at 06:08 AM
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"Gary Clark Jr. can do that, but I haven't heard a really memorable song from him yet."

I think this was a totally legit criticism of Clark until his last studio album, The Story Of Sonny Boy Slim. I think that album represents a new level of songwriting for him. Your mileage may vary on that, but check it out if you haven't heard it.

For my money he really is the only person in the "blues guitar god" slot right now who is innovating and doing something interesting. If anything, a lot of blues purists don't like him because he mixes it up TOO much. Sonny Boy Slim has songs that sound more like Prince than BB King, but I don't have a problem with that. I really, really like that album.

It feels to me like Clark is reclaiming the blues as black music. Why shouldn't it be mixed with other popular forms of African-American music like hip-hop? Because a bunch of white blues fans don't like it? That doesn't seem like a very good reason.

Gary Clark just sold out the Tabernacle here in Atlanta, a 3000 seat venue. Bonamassa is the only "blues guitarist" under 60 who can play bigger venues than Clark, and I simply don't have the words to describe how much I prefer Gary Clark Jr. over Joe Bonamassa.


Excellent post Rob. The first person I thought of was Gary Clark, Jr. when I saw the title of this thread. I've seen Clark on a couple of the Crossroads DVD's and he has really impressed me but I don't own anything. In response to your post I'm going to go out and pick up Sonny Boy Slim, probably today.

Another comment here which turned my ear:

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Huge Gary Clark fan here. His solo on Please Come Home form his live album just floors me.

He's not the "best" guitarist ever. But he's different and he has a GROOVE that makes up for his technical deficiencies. It's almost like his rawness is part of what makes him what he is.




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  posted on 7/15/2017 at 11:40 PM
There's a lot of great blues players out there....no one can replace the 3 Kings....there's just something special about each of them...

Most are recreating what they brought to music....there really isn't anything that I've heard coming from modern players that feels as "real" as those who created the sound...Doesn't mean there isn't a whole lot of great players

 

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  posted on 7/15/2017 at 10:10 PM
I love Gary Clark. When I saw him Live he had another guitar player. That guy was fantastic also. They opened for Derek's band. Derek sat in with them and he returned the favor to Derek & Susan.

Awesome night of music.

 

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  posted on 7/15/2017 at 09:43 PM
Huge Gary Clark fan here. His solo on Please Come Home form his live album just floors me.

He's not the "best" guitarist ever. But he's different and he has a GROOVE that makes up for his technical deficiencies. It's almost like his rawness is part of what makes him what he is.

Also, let's see how his career pans out, but Quinn Sullivan is really really catching my ear. And that says something because I had oft dismissed him as a sideshow "oh look as this young player" kind of thing. But he's coming into his own.

 

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  posted on 7/15/2017 at 12:07 PM
How about that Devon Allman guy or his old band mate Mike Zito !
 

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  posted on 7/15/2017 at 09:47 AM
It's traditional blues but for my money there's no finer player out there than Tinsley Ellis.

 

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  posted on 7/15/2017 at 08:11 AM
"who are the new/modern Albert/BB/Freddie Kings?"

Short answer: there will never be another Albert, BB or Freddie. There probably shouldn't be. Those guys made landmark contributions and inspired new generations of guitarists. If you're looking for imitators or blues guitarists you can probably find some real good ones in your local club scene.

Derek Trucks, Luther Dickenson, Gary Clark - all great players - all inspirational in their own right.

 

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  posted on 7/14/2017 at 06:27 PM
"Gary Clark Jr. can do that, but I haven't heard a really memorable song from him yet."

I think this was a totally legit criticism of Clark until his last studio album, The Story Of Sonny Boy Slim. I think that album represents a new level of songwriting for him. Your mileage may vary on that, but check it out if you haven't heard it.

For my money he really is the only person in the "blues guitar god" slot right now who is innovating and doing something interesting. If anything, a lot of blues purists don't like him because he mixes it up TOO much. Sonny Boy Slim has songs that sound more like Prince than BB King, but I don't have a problem with that. I really, really like that album.

It feels to me like Clark is reclaiming the blues as black music. Why shouldn't it be mixed with other popular forms of African-American music like hip-hop? Because a bunch of white blues fans don't like it? That doesn't seem like a very good reason.

Gary Clark just sold out the Tabernacle here in Atlanta, a 3000 seat venue. Bonamassa is the only "blues guitarist" under 60 who can play bigger venues than Clark, and I simply don't have the words to describe how much I prefer Gary Clark Jr. over Joe Bonamassa.

 
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  posted on 7/12/2017 at 06:18 PM
Great question, Jim - I reckon definitely the first, and perhaps/hopefully the second.


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So the question is, do you mean "Who plays traditional blues in an excellent way that recalls the awesome power of the 3 kings?" Or do you mean "Who is a new artist with the talent and soul at the level of the classic artists, even if he or she doesnt sound just like them?"

 

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So the question is, do you mean "Who plays traditional blues in an excellent way that recalls the awesome power of the 3 kings?" Or do you mean "Who is a new artist with the talent and soul at the level of the classic artists, even if he or she doesnt sound just like them?"
 

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  posted on 7/12/2017 at 05:27 PM
Not sure, no one comes to mind. I tend to dwell in the past for the my blues listening.

 

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  posted on 7/12/2017 at 04:52 PM
I like Davey knowles a lot, he has been out there now probably 10 years.
 

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  posted on 7/12/2017 at 02:06 PM
Honey Island Swamp Band is relatively,sort of,kinda newish bluesy,funky,swampy band that alot of people would like !
 

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  posted on 7/12/2017 at 01:34 PM
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There hasn't been a great band or artist since Nirvana


Couldn't disagree more on at least a couple of points.

Nirvana great? Leave that for another thread. Met them, saw them and have heard it all.

No great bands or artists? You are not looking very hard. I bet there is a great artist/band playing within driving distance from every member on here tonight. Barring people living on a farm or a forest. Especially the blues.

Things like comparisons are really loaded questions. Look at the blues and how it has expanded. Bonamassa plays a heavier version. Is he the new "King"? Sure is popular and can definitely play. Not really traditional and pretty much just copying the formula that Gary Moore was using.

Looking for something new or experimental? With the Blues? That is a pretty tall order and pretty rare. And would likely draw debate from some about how original it would be.

Gary Moore and Albert King
Stormy Monday

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But there are killer blues players everywhere - just have to leave the house to see them.

 

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  posted on 7/12/2017 at 01:21 PM
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Pretty solid point there, Marley. But I reckon...or hope...when we least expect it, something will come along that will be new/fresh/revolutionary. And it seems that time is about due!



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There hasn't been a great band or artist since Nirvana, if you want fresh new talent check out the Quebe Sisters.

This is bananas. But this and a couple of the other answers do get at something important: there isn't much innovation in blues-based music now. There are great players and a few of them are young, and some of them combine familiar elements in fun ways. But the Three Kings were helping to create a new genre and that genre is pretty set in stone now. If you want to see someone who is helping to establish or really push the boundaries of a style of music, you have to look elsewhere.

St. Vincent is a great songwriter and I like her guitar playing, but she's more likely to use the guitar to make scary noises than to rip off a long solo. Gary Clark Jr. can do that, but I haven't heard a really memorable song from him yet.




In the different genres of music that I listen to, I think the only one being truly innovative -- albeit in a throwback kind of way -- is Sturgill Simpson. He has influences but is not derivative, and to me the innovation is seen in the way that he really mixes soul with his country (though the two were never much separated, i.e., Ray Charles).

Marcus King is interesting, but talk about derivative, half the time it sounds like I'm listening to a Warren Haynes clone. He kind of reminds me of how, on his first couple of albums, KWS sounded so much like SRV.

 

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  posted on 7/12/2017 at 01:09 PM
Pretty solid point there, Marley. But I reckon...or hope...when we least expect it, something will come along that will be new/fresh/revolutionary. And it seems that time is about due!



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There hasn't been a great band or artist since Nirvana, if you want fresh new talent check out the Quebe Sisters.

This is bananas. But this and a couple of the other answers do get at something important: there isn't much innovation in blues-based music now. There are great players and a few of them are young, and some of them combine familiar elements in fun ways. But the Three Kings were helping to create a new genre and that genre is pretty set in stone now. If you want to see someone who is helping to establish or really push the boundaries of a style of music, you have to look elsewhere.

St. Vincent is a great songwriter and I like her guitar playing, but she's more likely to use the guitar to make scary noises than to rip off a long solo. Gary Clark Jr. can do that, but I haven't heard a really memorable song from him yet.

 

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There hasn't been a great band or artist since Nirvana, if you want fresh new talent check out the Quebe Sisters.

This is bananas. But this and a couple of the other answers do get at something important: there isn't much innovation in blues-based music now. There are great players and a few of them are young, and some of them combine familiar elements in fun ways. But the Three Kings were helping to create a new genre and that genre is pretty set in stone now. If you want to see someone who is helping to establish or really push the boundaries of a style of music, you have to look elsewhere.

St. Vincent is a great songwriter and I like her guitar playing, but she's more likely to use the guitar to make scary noises than to rip off a long solo. Gary Clark Jr. can do that, but I haven't heard a really memorable song from him yet.

 

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  posted on 7/11/2017 at 09:01 PM
Ok, I got a few "southern musicians" as Bill Graham was known to say:

#1 is Selwyn Birchwood, early 30's, from the Tampa area. On Alligator Records:

https://youtu.be/BB_YZOc3FIk

#2 is Mr Sipp, from Mississippi, early 40's:

https://youtu.be/jJ0j8mCQGRI

Jontavious Willis, early 20's from Georgia, a bit more old school:

https://youtu.be/6QMVId6jeQA

Jarekus Singleton, early 30's from Mississippi:

https://youtu.be/l-zLIu12MR4

Eddie Cotton is pretty good, too, the most BB King like:

https://youtu.be/wa8b5pyZL7I

 
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