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  posted on 4/11/2014 at 04:27 AM
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The ABB is not about relationships - at least not in the traditional sense, it's about the music.


Correct, which is why it seems to me to be irrelevant whether two guys are called Allman, or one, or none.

Does the fact that the band contains a guy called Allman make the music sound better? No, but it seems necessary to have someone called Allman present to validate the music for some people.

As I understand it, Duane was always reluctant to call the band ABB and that the "Brothers" part was regarded more as a brotherhood of the original six members (and roadies, I suppose).


 

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  posted on 4/11/2014 at 06:58 AM
Gregg might not be the instrumentalist/musician/player that his band members are, but his vocals are as much a part of the "trademark Allman Brothers sound" as Duane and Dickey's (now Warren and Derek's) guitars are. Namesake or not, if you take his vocal out of the mix (along with the name) you'll have a product quite noticeably different than the original article. Think of Yes with Trevor Horn sans Jon Anderson.

At the next stop (exit Derek and Warren) a certain number of fans will get off the bus. How many new ones will board? If Gregory leaves as well, there'll likely be plenty of seats.

Of course, Fender made guitars without Leo. We won't talk quality here.

 

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  posted on 4/11/2014 at 10:40 AM
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Namesake or not, if you take his vocal out of the mix (along with the name) you'll have a product quite noticeably different than the original article.


Yep. The band currently masquerading as "Lynyrd Skynyrd"...comes to mind.

Imho, NO Gregg... NO ABB.

 

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  posted on 4/11/2014 at 11:39 AM
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Namesake or not, if you take his vocal out of the mix (along with the name) you'll have a product quite noticeably different than the original article.


Yep. The band currently masquerading as "Lynyrd Skynyrd"...comes to mind.

Imho, NO Gregg... NO ABB.


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  posted on 4/11/2014 at 12:04 PM
As with any 3-person partnership/band, it typically takes 2 to make decisions except it only takes 1 to break it all up. Even easier when you're the "front man" (for lack of better term) and (remaining) namesake of the band.

In the Derek and Warren interviews that Alan Paul recently posted on Guitar World, they pretty much laid it all on Butch without saying his name. Butch was the source of the leak on Jam Cruise that forced the announcement sooner than they wanted, and everybody is on the same page that 2014 is it except for 1 person.

The band could have survived Derek's departure had Warren wanted to stay. I can think of 3 or 4 different ways that could have happened, and I think Oteil would have stuck around if Warren had and held it together. But with Warren leaving too, it sounds like Oteil & Marc are in agreement with Warren & Derek and Gregg sees it the same way. Can't see Jaimoe thinking any differently.

 

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Alan Paul wrote this in the recent Derek interview...

"They played 10 of 14 shows before postponing the final four because Allman was unable to perform after an illness he said was bronchitis."

I almost started a new thread for this and almost didn't post it at all. There is one person on this forum that can answer a question I have... but if I were him and the answer is no then I probably wouldn't answer.

My question is, Am I reading too much in to that "he said" part? I have wondered if bronchitis was Greggs problem or something else. I hope it was really bronchitis. but why would he word it that way? He is darn fine professional writer and he has been close to and in touch to the band during the run. If WAS bronchitis then it WAS bronchitis. Why the "he said was bronchitis"?

 

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I noticed exactly the same thing, KCJimmy, and it's nearly identical to the way that Allan parsed his words in One Way Out about Gregg getting clean after the 1995 Rock n Roll Hall of Fame induction.

That kind of wording strongly implies that Mr. Paul does not believe it was in fact bronchitis. I don't think you are reading too much into it at all.

 
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  posted on 4/11/2014 at 01:51 PM
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Alan Paul wrote this in the recent Derek interview...

"They played 10 of 14 shows before postponing the final four because Allman was unable to perform after an illness he said was bronchitis."

I almost started a new thread for this and almost didn't post it at all. There is one person on this forum that can answer a question I have... but if I were him and the answer is no then I probably wouldn't answer.

My question is, Am I reading too much in to that "he said" part? I have wondered if bronchitis was Greggs problem or something else. I hope it was really bronchitis. but why would he word it that way? He is darn fine professional writer and he has been close to and in touch to the band during the run. If WAS bronchitis then it WAS bronchitis. Why the "he said was bronchitis"?


If Alan wanted to skirt the issue or was not convinced it was bronchitis, he could just have said "after an illness". He could also come back now and explain the comment away.

 

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  posted on 4/11/2014 at 02:21 PM
That wording was impossible to ignore. I'd like to hear Alan elaborate if he thinks he can.
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I noticed exactly the same thing, KCJimmy, and it's nearly identical to the way that Allan parsed his words in One Way Out about Gregg getting clean after the 1995 Rock n Roll Hall of Fame induction.

Is that the part where he wrote 'Gregg's road to sobriety would be more complicated?' I think the cat's out of the bag on that one: later in the book there's a brief mention of Gregg going to rehab after the 2012 Beacon Run.

 

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  posted on 4/11/2014 at 02:41 PM
If nothing else... the band entertains us, and not just ON the stage.

Pull up a chair and grab the popcorn!

 

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  posted on 4/11/2014 at 02:43 PM
BTW

Supposedly both Gregg and Butch confirmed that the ABB is continuing beyond this year. This was mentioned at Wanee today at the book reading

 

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  posted on 4/11/2014 at 02:51 PM
Oh good!

Lots of European tour dates and new studio recordings to look forward to!



 

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  posted on 4/11/2014 at 03:16 PM
Greggs "Health Issues" asside. I like the idea of them continuing. Butch Suggested maybe not a 2 guitar attack but something more like the Chuck years. We beat the "who should play guitar" to death and frankly if it isn't Jack P & Jimmy I'm not for it anyway. But reworking the songs for the 1, 2, 3 punch of a guitar, piano & Sax (trumpet or any horn of choice) would be interesting and better than nothing at all.

I really think that if what ever they tried sounded like crap in rehearsal that they would just give it up rather than go out sounding like crap. That is after all one of the reasons they outsed Dickey and they said at the time if it meant ending the ABB then then they were prepared to do that.

It worked out to be the longest running version of the band to date. I'm like Derek, I would never bet against a re-grouped ABB.

 

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But reworking the songs for the 1, 2, 3 punch of a guitar, piano & Sax (trumpet or any horn of choice) would be interesting and better than nothing at all.




That's where Gregg's band seems to be headed...the last time I saw them, they did One Way Out with Jay Collins and Scott Sherrard trading licks... it was very good. Gregg has talked about adding horns, and has had Jaimoe's horn players sit in a few times with a very nice result.

 

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  posted on 4/11/2014 at 04:12 PM
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Supposedly both Gregg and Butch confirmed that the ABB is continuing beyond this year. This was mentioned at Wanee today at the book reading


Excuse the ignorance, but would that be sans Derek and Warren? Or, with them?

 

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Supposedly both Gregg and Butch confirmed that the ABB is continuing beyond this year. This was mentioned at Wanee today at the book reading


Excuse the ignorance, but would that be sans Derek and Warren? Or, with them?

Derek and Warren are leaving, and they repeat that in every single interview they do. It is not up for discussion. Gregg says he'll keep going with out them. It would be a joke, but we'll see.

 

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Supposedly both Gregg and Butch confirmed that the ABB is continuing beyond this year. This was mentioned at Wanee today at the book reading


Excuse the ignorance, but would that be sans Derek and Warren? Or, with them?

Derek and Warren are leaving, and they repeat that in every single interview they do. It is not up for discussion. Gregg says he'll keep going with out them. It would be a joke, but we'll see.


Yep, but keep in mind that Gregg is not the best interview in town nor a great communicator. Just guessing that's not by design. Who knows what he really means. I've come to discount much of what we read in interviews or what we hear on radio, TV, etc. with & by him.

On the other hand, if they bring in the likes of Jack Pearson & Chuck, that would be awfully big, and the band could move along at a high level for a while. That's just wishful thinking on my part. However, if they do move forward after Derek & Warren without some heavy hitters, I doubt it would be a band that draws like now or carries the interest of the dedicated fan base.

I still think Gregg's future is his solo band.

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  posted on 4/11/2014 at 05:30 PM
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I still think Gregg's future is his solo band.


^ This is way too logical.

 

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  posted on 4/11/2014 at 05:31 PM
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Yep, but keep in mind that Gregg is not the best interview in town nor a great communicator.

The problem isn't just the means of communication, it's the lack of planning. But yes, he also disregards the truth in a lot of interviews.

And they're not getting Chuck and Jack. Give me a break. Chuck has a better paying gig with the Stones, who haven't been a real band in ages but do have a functioning organization, and he'd rather spend the rest of his time working on his farm and doing what he wants. Jack still has awful tinnitus, which his time in the ABB didn't help. If you want a ballpark for the type of guys they'd bring in, think Scott Sharrard and Bruce Katz. Don't expect any star players to come walking through that door. They probably wouldn't be interested and the band probably wouldn't want to shell out for them.

 

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Yep, but keep in mind that Gregg is not the best interview in town nor a great communicator.

The problem isn't just the means of communication, it's the lack of planning. But yes, he also disregards the truth in a lot of interviews.

And they're not getting Chuck and Jack. Give me a break. Chuck has a better paying gig with the Stones, who haven't been a real band in ages but do have a functioning organization, and he'd rather spend the rest of his time working on his farm and doing what he wants. Jack still has awful tinnitus, which his time in the ABB didn't help. If you want a ballpark for the type of guys they'd bring in, think Scott Sharrard and Bruce Katz. Don't expect any star players to come walking through that door. They probably wouldn't be interested and the band probably wouldn't want to shell out for them.


Unless you've got some inside scoop or know something, then it's all speculation of "who" or "if" they'd fill with. I guess all of us have wish lists, and we played this game on the site several months back. Quite frankly, I'll believe it when I see a tour announced with a different set of players.

Scott & Bruce are good players. Katz seems to have moved on from Gregg's band. However if it's the two of them, then isn't it kind of an extension of GAB? He's already playing more ABB material in GAB then he did in previous years.

If you look at the number of dates GAB is playing versus ABB, it seems GAB is picking up more & more dates than ABB. So whoever & if they fill with, I doubt there would be many ABB dates in a year unless something changes. That's why my thinking is that the likes of Chuck and Jack for a few dates here and there seem plausible, but that's just a theory like many others have advanced regarding the "who will it be".

Keep in mind that Gregg has a live CD coming out and "claims" he has new material to record. It would make sense he would want to tour GAB more in support of these CD's.

I said it before, and I'm sticking to my theory - the majority of Gregg's time will be GAB.

 

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  posted on 4/11/2014 at 07:49 PM
Even with continuing..I think its a safe bet we will only see them doing the festivals.

Beacon could be a big question mark.

With Warren gone, do they go back to the static setlists?

 

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  posted on 4/11/2014 at 07:54 PM
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Who else does 1/2 the singing?

 

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  posted on 4/11/2014 at 08:01 PM
10 minute True Gravity,20 minute Jessica, 25 minute Liz Read, 30 minute Mountain Jam. A few with very little singing 20 minute Whipping Post, 15 minute Black Hearted Woman 6 or 7 others mixed in. They can pull it off if they continue they barely play any dates now.

 

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  posted on 4/11/2014 at 08:08 PM
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Who else does 1/2 the singing?


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  posted on 4/11/2014 at 09:23 PM
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10 minute True Gravity,20 minute Jessica, 25 minute Liz Read, 30 minute Mountain Jam. A few with very little singing 20 minute Whipping Post, 15 minute Black Hearted Woman 6 or 7 others mixed in. They can pull it off if they continue they barely play any dates now.


Except that Gregg doesn't like long jams

 

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