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Author: Subject: The One Person Who Can Save The ABB After Derek and Warren Leave

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  posted on 1/13/2014 at 08:20 PM
That would be Chuck Leavell.

After thinking about the Gregg tribute show at the Fox, I realized that I may have been premature in saying there is no way the band can survive if Warren, Derek and Oteil all leave. One of my biggest concerns was who would be the musical director or bandleader, a role Warren has filled capably for many years. I couldn't see any of the original members doing it, so I was stumped.

I still think it's a tall order, but Chuck Leavell is the one person who...

A) Has already been a member of the ABB
B) Is demonstrably capable of running a top-notch live band, as he has done with the Stones for many years
C) Judging from the Fox show, is on good terms with Gregg and the other original members

Chuck does have a very nice gig with the Stones, but the ABB would certainly be happy to work around his sporadic Stones tours. He knows the music inside and out and could help audition bass players, or guitarists, and make sure that this new rendition of the ABB is worthy of the name.

I think Jack Pearson could have the guitar chair if he wants it, but I'm not sure he would. Then again, if "being in the Allman Brothers" basically means the Beacon, Wanee, and one short tour a year, Jack might be able to handle that.

The resulting band would probably be very much to the liking of fans of the mid-70s Brothers and Sisters lineup. In fact, I would say there are plenty of people on this website and elsewhere who would enjoy such an incarnation of the ABB more than the current Derek/Warren version.

I don't think I would be one of those people. I like my ABB with 2 guitarists and lots of bombastic jams, but that's just me Still, I have to admit that Chuck and Jack are both Allman Brothers already, so their pedigree would be impeccable, and a band with both of them in it would be a very good band.

I'm not sure if any of that will happen, but in the wake of the Fox show that prominently featured both Chuck and Jack, it doesn't seem very far-fetched. It would unquestionably be The Allman Brothers Band, if a very different version of it.

Maybe the road really DOES go on forever.....

 
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  posted on 1/13/2014 at 08:34 PM
I don't know about "forever" anymore, but I do love your idea of bringing Chuck and Jack into the mix!
Yeah! That could work!

 

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  posted on 1/13/2014 at 08:52 PM
Chuck or Bruce Katz would make for a great addition. But that bass player is what concerns me. As much as the ABB is known for the guitar solos, what has always made them for me was the freight train rhythm section that makes the venue and hearts shake.
 

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  posted on 1/13/2014 at 08:59 PM
Chuck and Jack...you're right Rob it would be more 73-76 Allmans,something I could really get into....

As for bass there a very fine musicians who could fit quite nicely.Also,any top notch bass payer would,no doubt,have little difficulty learning the material and fitting in.Tal Wikenfeld,Porter,Andy Hess,Stoltz,Jorgen Carlson are a few who could move right into place.i see no problem filling the bass spot.

and some of the old timers like Lesh,Cassady or Bruce are fun to think about.

 

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  posted on 1/13/2014 at 09:17 PM
Give Berry D. Oakley a shot at the bass chair.
 

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  posted on 1/13/2014 at 10:07 PM
I agree with Rob, that would be a way I could see the band successfully moving forward because with Warren you aren't just replacing a guitarist you are replacing the band leader as well.


 

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  posted on 1/13/2014 at 10:20 PM
The obvious answer is Mr. Forrest Richard Betts.

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  posted on 1/13/2014 at 10:30 PM
If they got Dickey and Chuck back they'd be one bassist away from the Brothers and Sisters lineup.
 

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  posted on 1/13/2014 at 10:33 PM
I like the idea of Jack & Chuck, but I dont see it happening. Dickey wont be back.

 

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  posted on 1/13/2014 at 10:45 PM
Could not have said it better myself. Exactly what I was thinking. To me chuck is always a brother.
 

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  posted on 1/13/2014 at 10:45 PM
There will not be that much difference when Derek and Warren leave. For the last few years the band has not done much besides the Beacon. They have not introduced hardly any new music, they will get some good players to play with them to do a Beacon run and a few festivals with a bunch of bands. Your not going to get Chuck and Dickey is not going to return. Can probably get Jimmy, Jack, Junior Mack, Scott from GAF and a host of others to sit in. I'm sure Derek and Warren would even come back for some Beacon fun.

 

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  posted on 1/13/2014 at 10:49 PM
It's not gonna happen. He's a great player and it's always a treat when he sits in, but I doubt he wants back into the ABB circus.

 

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  posted on 1/13/2014 at 10:51 PM
There is no doubt that the band will need a musical director as well as 2 guitarists (and probably a bass player), and Chuck would be the perfect guy if there is any interest on his part. Personally, I think the only way they can justify the current ticket prices would be by bringing Dickey back (which will probably never happen, but I also thought I'd never see Cream or the Meters reunite!). Not sure if Dickey can play consistently well enough to justify charging what they do. ABB fans expect a quality product. I have nothing to back up my prediction, but I have a feeling Devon Allman and Luther Dickinson may be the heirs. Chuck, Dickey, and maybe someone like Lee Roy Parnell would be replacements I'd be interested in seeing at least once. As for the bass chair - no idea at all. Unless THE right guys are plugged in, may only see them once more out of curiousity if they continue.
 

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  posted on 1/13/2014 at 11:22 PM
Luther might have had enough of playing in other peoples bands after his stint with the Black Crowes.
 

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  posted on 1/14/2014 at 01:51 AM
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There is no doubt that the band will need a musical director as well as 2 guitarists (and probably a bass player), and Chuck would be the perfect guy if there is any interest on his part. Personally, I think the only way they can justify the current ticket prices would be by bringing Dickey back (which will probably never happen, but I also thought I'd never see Cream or the Meters reunite!). Not sure if Dickey can play consistently well enough to justify charging what they do. ABB fans expect a quality product. I have nothing to back up my prediction, but I have a feeling Devon Allman and Luther Dickinson may be the heirs. Chuck, Dickey, and maybe someone like Lee Roy Parnell would be replacements I'd be interested in seeing at least once. As for the bass chair - no idea at all. Unless THE right guys are plugged in, may only see them once more out of curiousity if they continue.


If Dickey has read Gregg's book it is most certain that it will NEVER happen.

 

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  posted on 1/14/2014 at 05:48 AM
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If they got Dickey and Chuck back they'd be one bassist away from the Brothers and Sisters lineup.


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  posted on 1/14/2014 at 08:25 AM
I'm not surprised it came up, especially after I mentioned Brothers and Sisters, but I doubt Dickey is in the mix.

Gregg's book would have you believe that if it was up to Gregg, Dickey would have been gone shortly after Duane died. With Warren and Derek leaving, I think we are in "up to Gregg" territory.

I also understand that Chuck may not want the gig. He certainly doesn't need the money, and as Marley put it, he may want to avoid "the whole ABB circus" and relax on the farm in between Stones tours.

I never meant to imply this was going to happen. I'm just saying that for my money, this is the best chance for the ABB to maintain their current high standards of quality as a live band. I was posting on this site that I didn't see any way to replace Derek and Warren without their being a huge drop-off. The Chuck scenario shows that it would be POSSIBLE to do so, even if it would be extremely unlikely.

 
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  posted on 1/14/2014 at 08:27 AM
I agree with you, Rob. I don't see Chuck as being outside the realm of possibility. How many times have the Stones toured in the last 30 years? 8? It's not like that gig takes a lot of Chuck's time. But most people probably don't realize that he acts as their defacto band leader, and he could do the same with the Allman Brothers. It probably depends on whether he wants to play more often or to watch trees grow.

And the combination with Jack Pearson at the Fox was pretty stellar. If Gregg is looking to recruit some talent for a new incarnation of the ABB, then it was all on stage last Friday night.

I prefer the two guitar lineup, but what if you had Pearson, Leavell, and Jimmy Hall brought into the band? Then you'd have another top notch singer to give Gregg's voice a rest, you'd have a bandleader like Chuck to orchestrate the entire thing, and you'd have Pearson on guitar. My God, man! That would be a smoking band.

 
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  posted on 1/14/2014 at 08:36 AM
Sorry for the ignorance here, but just curious how Chuck is " the leader/musical director"
of the Stones when they tour?

 

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  posted on 1/14/2014 at 08:42 AM
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Sorry for the ignorance here, but just curious how Chuck is " the leader/musical director"
of the Stones when they tour?


He is the one who selects the setlists, reminds the band members of certain parts of songs they haven't played in awhile and goes through the song arrangements with guests.

 

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  posted on 1/14/2014 at 08:42 AM
Its well documented that chuck chooses all the Stones set lists on tour..

 

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  posted on 1/14/2014 at 08:44 AM
Thanks guys..thats what I was kind thinking what he did.

I am going to get more into this thread topic later on today.

[Edited on 1/14/2014 by jszfunk]

 

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  posted on 1/14/2014 at 09:02 AM
I heard him on NPR not too long ago talking about his gig with the Stones, and he went in great detail about how he directs pretty much everything on stage and even gives Jagger and Richards their cues when they get lost.

Obviously, that would be a good talent to have if you were working on stage with Gregg Allman.

 
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  posted on 1/14/2014 at 09:30 AM
I've often thought of the "what if" moment where Chuck might have rejoined the band in 1989. I think it was described in Midnight Riders that Chuck was asked to join the reunion tour and he was very interested. The Stones had not toured in years. The original four went to meet about in FL without Chuck and during that time the Stones called about the Steel Wheels tour and Chuck committed since nothing was guaranteed on the ABB end...and, well, it was the Stones.

I was very impressed with what the Brothers did after 1989, but I would have loved having Chuck on board for that too. It has been super cool to have Chuck sit-in with the band so many times since 2001 and to have him be such a big part of the Gregg Tribute.

 

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  posted on 1/14/2014 at 09:47 AM
Oh, yeah, this also reminds me of that picture of the band in 1982 that includes Chuck (and no Lawler). There are a couple and one is of them sitting under a big tree in FL. I guess they considered continuing on shortly after that Saturday Night Live performance and brought Chuck into play with them for rehearsals. Nothing came of it, and then the first 1980s Gregg Allman Band and BHLT went out on the road separately.

I know Chuck did return for the pair of 1986 concerts along with Gregg, Butch, Jaimoe, Dickey and Dan. His next performances with the ABB were the Joe Dan Petty services in early 2000 and then four Beacon shows in 2001, which began a string of sit-ins over the next decade.

 

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