Thread: Singing on other songs?

Mt_Magnolia_Man - 8/30/2004 at 12:25 AM

Did brother B.O sing on any other songs other than Hoochie Coochie Man? I've heard that they were working on Trouble No More when they contacted Gregg, and Duane intended on having Jaimo and Berry be in a power trio, having Berry sing lead. And in the calender there is a thing where Gregg was sick so they had Berry sing on Trouble No More and a couple other songs. Anyone know anymore songs? And if they're recorded?


Stephen - 8/31/2004 at 08:03 PM

Oh Pretty Woman, which they never recorded, is the only other song Berry sang as far as I know bro. That song was in their setlist in some 1970s shows. It's not the Roy Orbison song BTW.


Marley - 9/2/2004 at 06:15 AM

You can hear Oh, Pretty Woman (I think it's by Albert King) on 5/3/69, 5/2/70, and 7/17/70. The sound quality on the first of those, especially, is not too good, but it's the oldest traded ABB show. 5/2/70 is from Swarthmore College and is the only show I know of where Berry sang both Hoochie Coochie Man and Oh, Pretty Woman. It also has the rare Outskirts of Town and Every Hungry Woman.


finsky - 9/3/2004 at 03:46 AM

It's also on their magical New Year's gig at The Warehouse on 12/31/70.


Mt_Magnolia_Man - 9/4/2004 at 01:39 AM

Did Berry sing in the Second Coming? Was there ever thoughts on him singing Standback that he co-wrote? Did he sing any other songs he wrote, if he wrote more? Like any solo songs? I've never heard BO having a solo carreer though.


Stephen - 9/7/2004 at 09:47 PM

There's a great picture of BO with Jerry G. in one of the past Hittin The Note magazines (a few years ago). Imagine if he had ever sat in with the Dead like the bros. Allman did (as well as the rest later). He and Phil Lesh -- two of the most melodic players ever.
Good comment Finsky -- hopefully the folks in the ARCHIVE heard it too (hint HINT!! .
Man have those archive releases rocked -- same with the current DVD & live current releases too.


BigDaveOnBass - 9/8/2004 at 08:17 PM

quote:
Oh Pretty Woman, which they never recorded, is the only other song Berry sang as far as I know bro. That song was in their setlist in some 1970s shows. It's not the Roy Orbison song BTW.
Is this the same "Oh Pretty Woman" that was covered by Gary Moore in the late 80's / early 90's?


Marley - 9/8/2004 at 11:19 PM

quote:
There's a great picture of BO with Jerry G. in one of the past Hittin The Note magazines (a few years ago). Imagine if he had ever sat in with the Dead like the bros. Allman did (as well as the rest later). He and Phil Lesh -- two of the most melodic players ever.

He did sit in with the Dead on (part of?) that 2/11/70 show with so many other guests. He might just be on Lovelight, but I think it's him.


ABB320 - 9/22/2004 at 10:24 PM

He played with the dead 6/10/73 at RFK stadium on the third set


BigDaveOnBass - 9/23/2004 at 01:08 PM

That's impossible, as BO died in '72....is the date a typo?


Stephen - 9/23/2004 at 02:40 PM

Cool info Marley -- Berry Dickey & Jaimoe did sit in with the Dead in summer 1972 in Gaelic Park, Conn. -- I do believe.


Marley - 9/23/2004 at 10:28 PM

Gaelic Park is in NY... PeachNutt was there, as I remember.


Marley - 9/23/2004 at 10:29 PM

(After checking) It's in the Bronx.


Mt_Magnolia_Man - 9/24/2004 at 12:29 AM

In a Grateful Dead book there was something about a show (after Duane died, must have been '72) where Dickey, Berry and Jaimo sat in with the Dead, and then there was some festival or concert where the Dead played, and then the Allman's played, and it said Jerry got up while they(ABB) were doing a jam, and started doing Johnny B. Goode and Dickey just smoked him. There's also a picture of Dickey with Bob Weir in that book.


GuitarPlaynTaylor - 7/2/2008 at 08:04 AM

Correct me if I'm wrong but I believe that berry sang Johnny B Good with the brothers once... and he sang background vocals on Blackhearted Woman and Midnight rider after Duane had passed...


dabo71 - 7/7/2008 at 08:39 PM

I have several versions of the 6/27/71 show and on one mix there is clearly somoene singing backup on Midnight Rider. Someone (I assume Berry) says "Thank You" at the end and just before DA introduces Hot 'Lanta he says "Berry singing". Interestingly enough on all of the other versions of this show you can't hear any background. I'd listened to the song hundreds of times and never noticed it until Masahiko pointed it out to me but it's definitely there. I've since gone back and listened to other versions of MR from that era (CCNY, Brewer Field house etc.) and the background singing can be heard.


GuitarPlaynTaylor - 7/10/2008 at 03:00 AM

I think duane sang background on midnight rider. Berry obviously did after Duane passed. I am always surprised that with so many band members who could sing, (duane, dickey, berry, gregg,) that they didn't try out any three our four part harmony.


becksbolero - 7/10/2008 at 03:54 AM

ok this has bugged me for years and maybe someone here can answer this. on the studio version of "blackhearted woman", during the break part, i swear that it's B.O. doing the vocal scat. can anyone confirm or disclaim this?


Stephen - 7/10/2008 at 06:53 PM

I believe you're partially right, it's Berry plus Duane & Dickey doing that part, then Berry with that laugh


GuitarPlaynTaylor - 7/11/2008 at 02:45 AM

yeah, I was listening to that the other day and figured it was berry. The laugh was. wonder why gregg didn't do it?


Pam - 7/18/2008 at 11:51 AM

That laugh belongs to Mike Callahan.


Mt_Magnolia_Man - 8/21/2008 at 10:47 AM

wow Pam, thats a nice piece of info! I always thought it was Gregg that laughed there, it just kinda sounds like him in a way, but very neat. Is there any story to go behind that? Was Mike helping out on the harmonies in that part?


PeachNutt - 8/28/2008 at 05:48 PM

Berry does sit in with the Dead at Dillion Stadium,CT 7/16/72 as did Dickey & Jamioe for the 3rd set. Phil sat out. Berry is absolutely cooking and brilliant!!!
We wuz there - it was a HOT HOT HOT day and an amazing show....
A must have show....


[Edited on 1/24/2009 by PeachNutt]


stormyrider - 10/26/2008 at 05:27 AM

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quote:
There's a great picture of BO with Jerry G. in one of the past Hittin The Note magazines (a few years ago). Imagine if he had ever sat in with the Dead like the bros. Allman did (as well as the rest later). He and Phil Lesh -- two of the most melodic players ever.

He did sit in with the Dead on (part of?) that 2/11/70 show with so many other guests. He might just be on Lovelight, but I think it's him.


yep, it is. Phil talks about it in his book. Berry took over in the middle of Lovelight - by the end of the jam he blew out the amp.

I have a picture that came with the 7/26/70 show labelled "jammin at midnight" that I am almost certain is from 2/11/70
Pigpen and Bobby are at the mic, Duane is playing with his back to the camera. Gregg is on keys, Butch and Billy K on the kits, Berry in between them. I think Jerry is behind Billy, and Peter Green is up in front next to PP.

just figured out how to upload it - I think. I bet others have seen this before.


[Edited on 10/26/2008 by stormyrider]

[Edited on 10/26/2008 by stormyrider]


stormyrider - 10/30/2008 at 11:40 PM

quote:
You can hear Oh, Pretty Woman (I think it's by Albert King) on 5/3/69, 5/2/70, and 7/17/70. The sound quality on the first of those, especially, is not too good, but it's the oldest traded ABB show. 5/2/70 is from Swarthmore College and is the only show I know of where Berry sang both Hoochie Coochie Man and Oh, Pretty Woman. It also has the rare Outskirts of Town and Every Hungry Woman.


5/09/70 Ga Tech also has the same 4 tunes, with Berry singing Hoochie Coochie Man and Oh Pretty Woman. sound is poor.


lespaul58 - 11/16/2008 at 10:39 PM

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There's a great picture of BO with Jerry G. in one of the past Hittin The Note magazines (a few years ago). Imagine if he had ever sat in with the Dead like the bros. Allman did (as well as the rest later). He and Phil Lesh -- two of the most melodic players ever.

He did sit in with the Dead on (part of?) that 2/11/70 show with so many other guests. He might just be on Lovelight, but I think it's him.


yep, it is. Phil talks about it in his book. Berry took over in the middle of Lovelight - by the end of the jam he blew out the amp.

I have a picture that came with the 7/26/70 show labelled "jammin at midnight" that I am almost certain is from 2/11/70
Pigpen and Bobby are at the mic, Duane is playing with his back to the camera. Gregg is on keys, Butch and Billy K on the kits, Berry in between them. I think Jerry is behind Billy, and Peter Green is up in front next to PP.

just figured out how to upload it - I think. I bet others have seen this before.


[Edited on 10/26/2008 by stormyrider]

[Edited on 10/26/2008 by stormyrider]


Thats not Duane with his back turned. Duane is profile on Gregg's right shoulder.


stormyrider - 11/28/2008 at 03:50 AM

really? in between Gregg and Butch?
looks like the sideburns and mustache aren't "connected", which wouldn't be Duane's facial hair.


PeachNutt - 1/24/2009 at 05:43 PM

Berry is in the back playing bass, which makes me think that Phil is already sitting out.
So it is Duane with his back to the camera, in front of Gregg.
But if Berry & Phil are playing at the same time (the posture of the guy in the front does look like Phil)
than i do think the guy next to gregg is in fact, brother duane
Oh happy daze.......




[Edited on 1/24/2009 by PeachNutt]


stormyrider - 1/30/2009 at 03:20 AM

according to Phil's book, he let Berry take over on bass - Phil wanted to just listen for a while (can't blame him).
That would fit with your 1st theory (and mine).

I wonder if anyone on the board was there that night?
I wonder if they could remember


Gringo - 4/10/2009 at 09:39 PM

Here's my version for the Filmore East stage photo:
I believe the man with his arms raised on the left is Mick Fleetwood. In front of him with dark hair on guitar is Peter Green. Pigpen in the hat of course. Then comes Bob Weir at the microphone. Way in the back there is Jerry Garcia with his dark full beard. In front of him is Bill Kreutzman on drums. Next man to the right is Berry Oakley with long hair and naked arms. The drummer with the hat is of course Butch Trucks. Then comes Duane Allman on guitar looking to the left probably over to Jerry. Then there's Gregg Allman on the organ. The guy on guitar with the neck long blond hair turning his back to the photographer is Danny Kirwan from the Fleetwood Mac. The man center back between Kreutzman and Oakley with his arms up, shaking some percussion instrument maybe, could be Micky Hart. Or is that Bill Graham ? The only person for who I have no idea is the man in the right corner by the wall of amps.

[Edited on 4/10/2009 by Gringo]


BIGV - 4/12/2009 at 09:41 PM

Weren't there a couple of shows where Gregg was sick and Berry did all of the vocals?


Stephen - 4/13/2009 at 03:17 PM

According to the database, Feb. 6-7, Papplinski's, Dayton OH -- Gregg was sick & Berry did all the vocals -- it was just a few days later that that photo posted here took place


homeboy - 4/13/2009 at 08:49 PM

Man, I'd love to hear/have heard that


becksbolero - 4/22/2009 at 02:55 AM

quote:
Here's my version for the Filmore East stage photo:
I believe the man with his arms raised on the left is Mick Fleetwood. In front of him with dark hair on guitar is Peter Green. Pigpen in the hat of course. Then comes Bob Weir at the microphone. Way in the back there is Jerry Garcia with his dark full beard. In front of him is Bill Kreutzman on drums. Next man to the right is Berry Oakley with long hair and naked arms. The drummer with the hat is of course Butch Trucks. Then comes Duane Allman on guitar looking to the left probably over to Jerry. Then there's Gregg Allman on the organ. The guy on guitar with the neck long blond hair turning his back to the photographer is Danny Kirwan from the Fleetwood Mac. The man center back between Kreutzman and Oakley with his arms up, shaking some percussion instrument maybe, could be Micky Hart. Or is that Bill Graham ? The only person for who I have no idea is the man in the right corner by the wall of amps.

[Edited on 4/10/2009 by Gringo]


this was discussed on dickey's site a few years ago. http://www.dickeybetts.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=XForum&file=viewthre ad&tid=3136#pid28718


the line up is as follows:
front row: mick fleetwood, peter green, pigpen, bob weir, phil lesh, gregg on organ.
back row: jery garcia, bill kruetzman, berry, arthur lee (from the band love), butch trucks, duane.

not sure who the guy is behind the speaker. hope that helps sort out who's who.


stormyrider - 4/25/2009 at 02:01 AM

after looking at this photo for what must be the 100th time, I get it now


lespaul58 - 10/16/2009 at 02:39 AM

quote:
really? in between Gregg and Butch?
looks like the sideburns and mustache aren't "connected", which wouldn't be Duane's facial hair.


That's Duane. His hair is covering his face.


lespaul58 - 12/27/2010 at 02:32 AM

That's Mickey Hart on the far right.

[Edited on 12/27/2010 by lespaul58]


rongtr - 12/10/2011 at 01:39 AM

Cool! Three of my favorite guitar duos-- Duane and Dickey, Peter and Danny, and Jerry and Bob!


Gringo - 3/23/2013 at 09:42 AM

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You can hear Oh, Pretty Woman (I think it's by Albert King) on 5/3/69, 5/2/70, and 7/17/70. The sound quality on the first of those, especially, is not too good, but it's the oldest traded ABB show. 5/2/70 is from Swarthmore College and is the only show I know of where Berry sang both Hoochie Coochie Man and Oh, Pretty Woman. It also has the rare Outskirts of Town and Every Hungry Woman.


I found a cassette recording of 7/17/70. Oh pretty woman is the encore song. The sound quality of this is mono and similar to 5/2/70. 7/17/70 has Thom Doucette on harmonica sitting in. The Swarthmore College show also has Dimples, the only song Duane ever sang lead on in ABB.
So if there is a way to get 5/2/70 out in the Archival Series - that would be a gem !!!


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