Thread: ABB better without guests

patflynn - 3/12/2009 at 10:27 PM

This may go against the grain but I believe the ABB is a better band without guests. The ABB has been my favorite band for 39 years, I've been to many shows. In several cases I have found guests to be distracting from a fan point of view. More importantly , too often I have seen a guest derail the band from what started as a great show and then the band seems unable to recover the magic they started with. I suspect this is what happened 3/10 with Johnny Winter. Nothing new - JW did the same thing (40 years ago) at the Atlanta Pop Festival in 1970! He was so out of sync with the band that his guitar part (during Mountain Jam) was removed from the recording before it was released. I don't mean to bash JW, he's given us a lot of good music - he is a treasure in his own right - but he is the most recent example of a musical mismatch.
I am not suggesting eliminating guest appearances they do add interest and variety (especially for the band members). They also expand the bands musical range but I would like to see the guest contribute more to the ABB style rather than the band conform to the style of the guest.
The current line-up of the band is absolutely awesome - the best since the original. There is no better 'live' band - enjoy the magic.


BarrySmith - 3/12/2009 at 11:17 PM

I agree for the most part. There are times when the guys don't need any outside help and the show is great.

There are sometimes the guest seems out of place. A few years ago at the Beacon they brought out Bela Fleck to play banjo during IN MEMORY OF ELIZABETH REED!! That was a total mismatch. Liz Reed is plainly not a tune where you'd even think of having a banjo player. That didn't work. Then a few years later they got Bruce Willis the actor to play some harmonica. I guess he was ok but he looked totally out of place on stage and his girations did not mesh with the ABB.

All this made me think that the ABB is definitely better without guests.


luvhittinweb - 3/12/2009 at 11:20 PM

This is always a hit or miss situation. Frampton and Rossington at the Beacon two years ago was incredible. I do like the anticipation of wondering who you will get.


brucegz - 3/12/2009 at 11:27 PM

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Then a few years later they got Bruce Willis the actor to play some harmonica. I guess he was ok but he looked totally out of place on stage and his girations did not mesh with the ABB.


I was at that show. It occurred to me (and I'm ashamed to say it) that I probably didn't hate that guest stint because of star power and I'm usually the last person to care about that Sh*t.


brofan - 3/12/2009 at 11:29 PM

Seeing Dave Mason do All Along The Watchtower and Feelin' Alright, followed by Luther Dickinson on Done Somebody Wrong, followed by Leslie West on The Sky Is Crying and Crossroads on 4-5-07 at the Beacon wasn't exactly disappointing....


suk0 - 3/12/2009 at 11:31 PM

I think it all depends on the person who is guesting. It's very hard to find a musician who is talented enough AND won't get starstruck by standing up there with those guys. Guys like Audley Freed who have played with every and anyone and who doesn't get starstruck by standing up there because A)he's done it with them so much and B)he's played with some of the nastiest country players on earth. Robert Randolph was another really good guest who I feel doesn't end up in awe while onstage. Again, guys like Frampton and Rossington were good guests because they've been everywhere and played for everyone, so that situation doesn't freeze them up.


bluesguy - 3/12/2009 at 11:32 PM

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Seeing Dave Mason do All Along The Watchtower and Feelin' Alright, followed by Luther Dickinson on Done Somebody Wrong, followed by Leslie West on The Sky Is Crying and Crossroads on 4-5-07 at the Beacon wasn't exactly disappointing....



l was there and agree 100%!!


bob1954 - 3/12/2009 at 11:36 PM

Guests...no guests...it's all good. Don't overanalyze it. Just enjoy it.


brofan - 3/12/2009 at 11:40 PM

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Guests...no guests...it's all good. Don't overanalyze it. Just enjoy it.


Exactly. Go with the flow and have no expectations....


luvhittinweb - 3/12/2009 at 11:45 PM

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Guests...no guests...it's all good. Don't overanalyze it. Just enjoy it.


This is the perfect outlook.


DuaneFan56 - 3/12/2009 at 11:47 PM

Well , for one thing you may be right - the ABB is probably better without guests. BUT, like someone said, it depends on what guest you get. Who could forget for instance Peter Frampton tearing it up on "Born Under a Bad Sign" or Roy Haynes on his 80th Birthdday laying down a Jazzy beat on "Afro Blue" or Robben Ford on "Loving Cup" and "Liz Reed". All amazing and magical guest moments.

That being said, guest players are inevitable during the Beacon Run. It's become a tradition so to speak and most of us love the guest players who usually are quite good. Typically special guests pop in for just a song or two and then leave. That still leaves plenty of time for The ABB to do what they do best - JAM!

I think what may be a good idea is to leave a few shows open for "An Evening With The Allman Brothers Band" which means no guests at all - Just the ABB. Maybe every other show could be no guests or simply reserve 3 or 4 shows at the end of the run to be "An Evening With" shows. THat might be an idea worth exploring. It's all good though and we are a lucky bunch to have such a great band as our favorite and one that we are so passionate about!

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Guests...no guests...it's all good. Don't overanalyze it. Just enjoy it.



Exactly!



[Edited on 3/12/2009 by DuaneFan56]


tonewoods - 3/12/2009 at 11:50 PM

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This may go against the grain but I believe the ABB is a better band without guests. The ABB has been my favorite band for 39 years, I've been to many shows. In several cases I have found guests to be distracting from a fan point of view. More importantly , too often I have seen a guest derail the band from what started as a great show and then the band seems unable to recover the magic they started with. I suspect this is what happened 3/10 with Johnny Winter. Nothing new - JW did the same thing (40 years ago) at the Atlanta Pop Festival in 1970! He was so out of sync with the band that his guitar part (during Mountain Jam) was removed from the recording before it was released.




Just for the record, JW saved 8/6/72 at the Hollywood Bowl.

Just a sludgy smack-fest ABB set with not a spark of life 'till he got up there....


BarrySmith - 3/13/2009 at 12:03 AM

I would love to see BOB DYLAN do a few songs with the ABB but somehow Dylan does not seem to be on their regular friends list. I don't think there was any animosity between these parties ever but I've never seen Dylan and the ABB together on the same stage.


LexABB - 3/13/2009 at 12:05 AM

I think maybe one more of these threads is what we need


jersey_devil - 3/13/2009 at 12:52 AM

According to a Butch interview, no guests on 3/26.


musicmann - 3/13/2009 at 01:05 AM

Geez, can we start another thread like this tomorrow?


brofan - 3/13/2009 at 03:33 AM

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I would love to see BOB DYLAN do a few songs with the ABB but somehow Dylan does not seem to be on their regular friends list. I don't think there was any animosity between these parties ever but I've never seen Dylan and the ABB together on the same stage.


Dylan is friendly with Dickey and they have shared the stage...and Dickey has done Dylan's tunes, most notably Tangled Up In Blue in Madison, WI back in 2001.


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