Thread: ABB Beacon 2014 Revenue (OFFICIAL)

Muledog - 4/6/2014 at 05:59 AM

The Allman Brothers Band
Beacon Theatre
New York, N.Y.
March 7-8, 11-12, 14-15, 18-19, 21-22, 2014
Gross Sales: $2,909,979
Tickets Sold: 27,900 / 27,900
Sold Out Shows 10 / 10
Ticket Prices: $145.99, $95.99, $55.99
Promoters: Live Nation

Billboard.com

[Edited on 4/6/2014 by Muledog]


Jig - 4/6/2014 at 03:34 PM

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The Allman Brothers Band
Beacon Theatre
New York, N.Y.
March 7-8, 11-12, 14-15, 18-19, 21-22, 2014
Gross Sales: $2,909,979
Tickets Sold: 27,900 / 27,900
Sold Out Shows 10 / 10
Ticket Prices: $145.99, $95.99, $55.99
Promoters: Live Nation

Billboard.com

[Edited on 4/6/2014 by Muledog]

Cool info!
Any idea what the guys take in?


Diablagato - 4/7/2014 at 04:07 AM

Yeah, and throw in the ticket fees and the bar revenue and the merch and we're talking a nice piece of change here!


DOMEL - 4/7/2014 at 12:52 PM

That's great they grossed $3 mil ,and haven't fulfilled there obligations to play or refund FANS ,for the cancelled Beacon shows .Between them letting the weekend shows previous ,go on without GREG and not announcing in advance that he wouldn't be playing (advanced isn't a hour before the show started) and they haven't given us any clue on when or what they are going to do ,about the cancelled shows ,has left many of us ,weather they publically admit it or not ,with a very bad taste for the situation. If the generic management released statement, on Gregs website that he is ok is true,(please don't be so na´ve that he personally put out the statement),why would they leave their fans hanging ,especially at this venue ,especially at the last time they play, what they call there 2nd home. Its starting to feel like they have been paid ,so its not important and on the back burner. I blamed management solely this whole time , now like most of the people I talked to some out thousands ,not just a measley $700 I spent for 2 tickets ,2 nights ,I blame the band also .The band only had Wannee a festival that is more of a vacation and jam session for them booked this coming week to play .the beacon had 2 single night acts booked over the last few weeks .They kept the sign up on the beacon ,they have been stringing us along .Its time for some others to voice there disappointment on how its been handled ,and not give the organization a pass just because we all love the band and what it suppose to stand for .... I always want to remember PEOPLE CAN U FEEL IT LOVE IS IN THE AIR ,not Greed


Jig - 4/7/2014 at 02:21 PM

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That's great they grossed $3 mil ,and haven't fulfilled there obligations to play or refund FANS ,for the cancelled Beacon shows .Between them letting the weekend shows previous ,go on without GREG and not announcing in advance that he wouldn't be playing (advanced isn't a hour before the show started) and they haven't given us any clue on when or what they are going to do ,about the cancelled shows ,has left many of us ,weather they publically admit it or not ,with a very bad taste for the situation. If the generic management released statement, on Gregs website that he is ok is true,(please don't be so na´ve that he personally put out the statement),why would they leave their fans hanging ,especially at this venue ,especially at the last time they play, what they call there 2nd home. Its starting to feel like they have been paid ,so its not important and on the back burner. I blamed management solely this whole time , now like most of the people I talked to some out thousands ,not just a measley $700 I spent for 2 tickets ,2 nights ,I blame the band also .The band only had Wannee a festival that is more of a vacation and jam session for them booked this coming week to play .the beacon had 2 single night acts booked over the last few weeks .They kept the sign up on the beacon ,they have been stringing us along .Its time for some others to voice there disappointment on how its been handled ,and not give the organization a pass just because we all love the band and what it suppose to stand for .... I always want to remember PEOPLE CAN U FEEL IT LOVE IS IN THE AIR ,not Greed


Ok, we get it, you're upset.
So am I.
Time to get over it.
Time to get spell check.


Marley - 4/7/2014 at 04:20 PM

It's been two and a half weeks since the dates were postponed. Since we're talking about the logistics of at least three different bands that are still locking down their tour dates, I don't think that's horribly unreasonable. You're just going to have to wait. The Stones postponed a bunch of tour dates in March about a week before the ABB did and haven't announced the new dates either - and those dates are in Australia.

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If the generic management released statement, on Gregs website that he is ok is true,(please don't be so na´ve that he personally put out the statement)

No **** . Thank you for reminding us how press releases work.
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Its time for some others to voice there disappointment on how its been handled

People saying these things since March 22nd. Why do people always think they're the first to complain?


kevinumberger - 4/7/2014 at 07:39 PM

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they haven't given us any clue on when or what they are going to do ,about the cancelled shows ,has left many of us ,weather they publically admit it or not ,with a very bad taste for the situation





thats interesting.........ALL of the people that i have talked to that went to the two shows were perfectly happy.....myself included...

and yes, i lost out on the final weekend as well but managed to still have a good time in NYC as theres a ton of non music related things to do in that tiny town...........had my flight, hotel etc booked----figured id still make a vacation outta it.......so thats what i did....

but, i understand----people will bitch about anything....


mustangbob - 4/8/2014 at 08:17 AM

Domel,
I think I get it and I believe I understand how you feel. Perhaps it is time to start a thread where all the folks that missed the shows and continue to dwell on their suffering can commiserate. By the way, I went to the last Friday and Saturday shows and would not change a thing. My recent receipt of both concert CD's confirmed my initial feeling that they were some of the best ABB concerts I have attended. You make a couple of assumptions that are interesting like Gregg being well enough to play the weeks immediately following the last shows and Wanee being more like a vacation and jam session for the band. I am assuming based on that comment that you have never attended Wanee. Having attended in the past it appears to me that nothing could be farther from the truth. Anyway, I hope you eventually get what you are looking for and I apologize (without authority to do so) for any pain that the band management and the band have inflicted on you and others. I suspect that this will all get worked out (probably with the shows cancelled) so that you will be able to obtain a refund. Looking forward to reading an uplifting post from you in the not too distant future.


kevinumberger - 4/8/2014 at 01:55 PM

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By the way, I went to the last Friday and Saturday shows and would not change a thing.




me as well...

the 3-21 (my birthday) and the 3-22 shows were smoking hot........


musicalbeds - 4/8/2014 at 02:50 PM

I think there's cause to be concerned and frustrated by the band's ticket and merchandising issues lately.

1/ Gregg's autopen fiasco. I bought a copy not knowing and I'm peeved I was ripped off. Ok, let it go.

2/Having to purchase a cd to get the pre-order. That seemed cheesy, and I know it wasn't a popular idea around here. Ok, let it go.

3/The poster they're selling at the Beacon is a second printing, and they're still selling first printings at HTN? WTF? I get off my ass and pay money to go to a show, and someone who didn't can get an earlier printing than mine? That's insultingly stupid marketing, but hey, I'll let it go.

4/ Play shows w/o Gregg, then cancel and not give any indication when it can be made up. Well, I saw my two shows, but this is still a point to be made, because we're seeing a pattern now, one that reminds me of the years after Jerry's death and how things with the GD machine just fell apart.

I certainly don't think people should risk their health by endlessly stressing about what's going on with the ABB, but I do think it's important to voice opinions on our experiences, because that's the only way things can change, AND it helps fans not feel so alone in their struggles with these troubles.






newjerseymike - 4/9/2014 at 12:09 AM

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quote:
The Allman Brothers Band
Beacon Theatre
New York, N.Y.
March 7-8, 11-12, 14-15, 18-19, 21-22, 2014
Gross Sales: $2,909,979
Tickets Sold: 27,900 / 27,900
Sold Out Shows 10 / 10
Ticket Prices: $145.99, $95.99, $55.99
Promoters: Live Nation

Billboard.com

[Edited on 4/6/2014 by Muledog]

Cool info!
Any idea what the guys take in?


I'll take this discussion back to the original topic.
What did the guys take in? OK, based on NOTHING but pure conjecture, and with no knowledge of the business of enterntainment, here's a wild guess that others can shoot holes and and come up with their own (cause its better than complaining..btw: i had/have a ticket to the 3/25 show.)

So rounding up the total Revenue to $3,000,000
Beacon/MSG takes 1/3 = $1,000,000 (includes Beacon security and other staff) (Louis C.K., says he rented the Beacon and paid a camera crew to film for $650,000 for comparison)
Moving equip/roadies (20)/setup/catering $150,000,000
Instrument technicians/lighting people/ sound people $75,000,000
Hotels, travel for band and staff $100,000
Total expenses $1,325,000.
Take is $1,675,000 (for ten shows)
10% for "management" etc. -$167,500
Band members net $1,507,500

Now how do they divide it up?
Gregg, JJ, Butch (founding members), Derek, Waren equal shares?
Oteil and Marc, slightly less? or all equal?
if all equal then each got $215,537 each..
for 10 shows = $21,535 each for each show
Nice but not crazy Rolling Stone rich nice.
Adjust according, if some got more.. I have to think Gregg getting more than Marc.

Also, does not include mechandise or whatever they get from secondary market.

Ok, tell me where I'm wrong. I guessed high at expenses, I think.


mustangbob - 4/9/2014 at 12:23 AM

My last post in this thread that started out with some interesting information and deteriorated with those that appear to need not to let it go and continue to complain. I suspect that all else being equal I will be living a few extra years since I really can let go - actually I dont need to let go since it doesnt bother me. 1) most people buy a book to read whats between the covers. OK a mistake may have been made and Gregg did not actually sign. In the greater scheme of things what difference does it make unless you feel that once again you are getting screwed out of ........... an autograph. I read the book from the library so I am one step removed thank goodness. 2) I did purchase the CD and it is great. Worth the purchase by itself. I am all for anything that may help keep scalpers at bay. May not have done that but I got at the time what I considered less than desirable seats for Fri March 21 in Orch row U. Guess what - incredible show and sound was superb even in the back. Glass more than half full. 3) I bought my poster....and t shirt on line even though I went to two Beacon shows. I don't give a crap what number is on it - the value is that I was there. I can look at the poster and think back to the shows. I don't look at the numbers on my posters from twenty years ago. And my what a cool poster. 4) Shows without Gregg were awesome (they were the two that I attended) and listening now to the CDs confirms that these were special. There are a large number of songs on my all time live greatest hits ABB Beacon list from those two shows. I did not hear one complaint all night but of course I am not listening for negative feedback .......very busy having too much fun.
Having said all that I do think all have a right to voice their opinion. I could not be happier about how things worked out and I hope some move on and don't let these struggles ruin your outlook on life. Maintain perspective. Think you can or think you can't, either way you'd be right. Last post here - getting ready for the long ride to Wanee. Now ya lookin good.


musicalbeds - 4/9/2014 at 11:23 AM

Thanks for the "enlightened" reply to my post, but you're really not all that, despite your efforts to sell it on the backs of those who are disgruntled.

If the rest of the world was like you, nothing negative would change because we'd all be too busy "moving on" and patting ourselves on the back publically for doing so, while pretending to respect people for voicing their opinion, but actually condescending to them for doing so.

Enjoy Wanee.


mustangbob - 4/9/2014 at 11:37 AM

Musicalbeds,
You are right of course. My apologies.


musicalbeds - 4/9/2014 at 11:43 AM

Thanks for conceding that....I awarded you a karma point, and publically contradict myself in admitting that perhaps, you are "all that".

Cheers, and have a safe trip to and from Wanee.


Shavian - 4/10/2014 at 04:26 PM

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Moving equip/roadies (20)/setup/catering $150,000,000
Instrument technicians/lighting people/ sound people $75,000,000

..... I guessed high at expenses, I think.



I'd say that was an understatement!



bettyhynes - 4/26/2014 at 10:32 PM

Quote

Now how do they divide it up?
Gregg, JJ, Butch (founding members), Derek, Waren equl shares?
Oteil and Marc, slightly less? or all equal?
if all equal then each got $215,537 each..
for 10 shows = $21,535 each for each show
Nice but not crazy Rolling Stone rich nice.
Adjust according, if some got more.. I have to think Gregg getting more than Marc.
Also, does not include mechandise - Quote

Lets not forget Dickey,I believe he walks away with a continuing piece of the pie whether he performs with ABB or not (prob similar to a 'founding member' %).If you look at his riches compared to Gregg,which was posted somewhere on this board previously, he's not doing bad at all (40+ mil)..considering he has no obligation to perform onstage w/ABB.That was why I had originally thought it would have been nice if possibly Dickey(dickie) could have joined ABB onstage a bit when Gregg was ill to possibly help salvage the Beacon Run cancellations & just end the legacy of ABB. Just a thought...


TheGuru - 4/26/2014 at 11:20 PM

Don't forget the $120 I spent for 2 beers each time Susan appeared on stage on the 22nd.


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