Thread: I watched a former Clinton advisor...

OriginalGoober - 12/7/2017 at 12:44 AM

condemn Roy Moore on MSNBC .

We live in strange times.


KCJimmy - 12/7/2017 at 01:40 AM

Oh, that's okay Bill Clinton is BAD now, didn't you hear?


LeglizHemp - 12/7/2017 at 02:37 AM

Funny stuff, not sure why.


2112 - 12/7/2017 at 03:51 PM

I know it's shocking when somebody condemn a pedophile, at least when so many in the GOP are supporting him. Wondering if Moore and Trump used to hang out at the elementary schools and exchange locker room talk about grabbing them by the pussy. Clinton may have been a pervert, but at least he wasn't a child molester.


lukester420 - 12/7/2017 at 03:57 PM

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I know it's shocking when somebody condemn a pedophile, at least when so many in the GOP are supporting him. Wondering if Moore and Trump used to hang out at the elementary schools and exchange locker room talk about grabbing them by the pussy. Clinton may have been a pervert, but at least he wasn't a child molester.


Yeah but what about his wife’s email server


KCJimmy - 12/7/2017 at 05:28 PM

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I know it's shocking when somebody condemn a pedophile, at least when so many in the GOP are supporting him. Wondering if Moore and Trump used to hang out at the elementary schools and exchange locker room talk about grabbing them by the pussy. Clinton may have been a pervert, but at least he wasn't a child molester.
Really? Roy who was 32 at the time is ACCUSED of attempting to touch / or actually touching a teenage girl (18 years younger than him) and according to the accuser he stopped when she said no. Clinton lied about, then admitted to sticking his wee wee in a young interns mouth (Less than half his age) IN THE OVAL OFFICE. How many of you can do THAT with an intern half you age in your office and still keep your job?

Fact: Bill Clinton was 27 years older than her and she worked for him.
Roy Moore's ACCUSER was 18 years younger than him. If it happened at all he stopped when she said no according to HER. When Bill was 32 Monica was 5!

I am not okay with either of these scenarios but if your daughter was one of these girls which one would you want her to be? I probably shouldn't ask that because it would not surprise me if some of you would consider it a badge of honor to know your daughter gave Bill a Lewinsky. Let's not forget Clinton may not meet your definition of child molester but he damn sure is a rapist. And if you dispute that then you have on blinders and are not willing to accept the truth.




[Edited on 12/7/2017 by KCJimmy]


Muleman1994 - 12/7/2017 at 05:36 PM

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condemn Roy Moore on MSNBC .

We live in strange times.



Bill Clinton set the standard for sexually assaulting and raping women and it was all good with the left.
Now the feign outrage!

The left screamed for due process.
Apparently now they have dumped that and just feel they need to make a political statement.
It's all good. Nobody is listening to them anymore.



BoytonBrother - 12/7/2017 at 06:02 PM

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Really? Roy who was 32 at the time is ACCUSED of attempting to touch / or actually touching a teenage girl (18 years younger than him) and according to the accuser he stopped when she said no.


32-18..........since he stopped, what’s the problem libtards?

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Fact: Bill Clinton was 27 years older than her and she worked for him.
Roy Moore's ACCUSER was 18 years younger than him. If it happened at all he stopped when she said no according to HER. When Bill was 32 Monica was 5!


Which makes them consenting adults, but not the case for the pedophile. Why are you confused by this?

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I am not okay with either of these scenarios but if your daughter was one of these girls which one would you want her to be? I probably shouldn't ask that because it would not surprise me if some of you would consider it a badge of honor to know your daughter gave Bill a Lewinsky.


Eww!! You’d rather your 14-year old daughter get molested by a 32-year old man than have consensual sex as an adult? And folks, in his mind, he thought he was trolling liberals when he typed his wretched garbage, LOL! Dude, you are one sick pervert.


2112 - 12/7/2017 at 06:05 PM

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I know it's shocking when somebody condemn a pedophile, at least when so many in the GOP are supporting him. Wondering if Moore and Trump used to hang out at the elementary schools and exchange locker room talk about grabbing them by the pussy. Clinton may have been a pervert, but at least he wasn't a child molester.
Really? Roy who was 32 at the time is ACCUSED of attempting to touch / or actually touching a teenage girl (18 years younger than him) and according to the accuser he stopped when she said no. Clinton lied about, then admitted to sticking his wee wee in a young interns mouth (Less than half his age) IN THE OVAL OFFICE. How many of you can do THAT with an intern half you age in your office and still keep your job?

Fact: Bill Clinton was 27 years older than her and she worked for him.
Roy Moore's ACCUSER was 18 years younger than him. If it happened at all he stopped when she said no according to HER. When Bill was 32 Monica was 5!

I am not okay with either of these scenarios but if your daughter was one of these girls which one would you want her to be? I probably shouldn't ask that because it would not surprise me if some of you would consider it a badge of honor to know your daughter gave Bill a Lewinsky. Let's not forget Clinton may not meet your definition of child molester but he damn sure is a rapist. And if you dispute that then you have on blinders and are not willing to accept the truth.




[Edited on 12/7/2017 by KCJimmy]


Neither scenario is ok, but if you are asking me to choose I would rather have my adult daughter involved in a consentual relationship over having my 14 year old child molested. Trying to compare 2 adults in a consentual situation (as inappropriate as it may be) to groping and forcing a 14 year old to touch his erect private part is beyond sick.


porkchopbob - 12/7/2017 at 06:05 PM

First of all, Roy Moore is the present day issue because he is seeking office. If you are trying to dredge up Bill Clinton, it is only to deflect the issue at hand just because Moore happens to be on your side of the political aisle. But assault or haressment shouldn't be a partisan issue.

Roy Moore is accused by 8 different women of inappropriate sexual behavior, many of them were minors. MINORS. Chuck Berry and Jerry Lee Lewis both nearly had their careers ended for such behavior 50 YEARS AGO. For the record, Monica Lewinsky was a consenting ADULT. Yes, it was inappropriate, everyone said as much 20 years ago and he was punished for lying under oath. However, Bill Clinton is not seeking office at the moment. Lewinsky may have been coerced by power, but she has never claimed any force.

Meanwhile, we have a current President who openly admits to lewd, disgusting activities, and you don't care. So spare me your outrage, you are clearly blinded by partisan politics.


KCJimmy - 12/7/2017 at 06:18 PM

So far Boyton and 2112 have admitted they would rather have Bill Clinton's privates in their daughter's mouths rather than to be touched on the breast by Roy Moore. You ARE proud dedicated Democrats!


BoytonBrother - 12/7/2017 at 06:22 PM

Yeah, those crazy Democrats for choosing consensual adult sex over pedophilia....what is wrong with us libtards, LOL.


KCJimmy - 12/7/2017 at 06:24 PM

For her sake I hope your daughter is smarter than you are.


porkchopbob - 12/7/2017 at 06:27 PM

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So far Boyton and 2112 have admitted they would rather have Bill Clinton's privates in their daughter's mouths rather than to be touched on the breast by Roy Moore. You ARE proud dedicated Democrats!


Roy Moore clearly prefers his girls before they grow breasts.


2112 - 12/7/2017 at 06:28 PM

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So far Boyton and 2112 have admitted they would rather have Bill Clinton's privates in their daughter's mouths rather than to be touched on the breast by Roy Moore. You ARE proud dedicated Democrats!




So how young does your daughter have to be before you are outraged by her being molested? Feel free to state the age if the perpetrator is a Democrat vs a Republican if needed, as it sounds like there would be two different answers.


BoytonBrother - 12/7/2017 at 06:28 PM

I would think we all hope that our children become smarter than we are. Thanks!


porkchopbob - 12/7/2017 at 06:30 PM

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Fact: Bill Clinton was 27 years older than her and she worked for him.


FACT: Donald Trump is 24 years older than Melania Trump.


KCJimmy - 12/7/2017 at 06:38 PM

I don't have to worry about that. I wouldn't give Roy Moore permission to date my daughter and my daughter is mart enough to NOT want Bill Clintons Willey (or anything that comes out of it) in her mouth. But both of you definitely get the Democrat Badge of Honor. Congratulations!

I prefer lower taxes, lower unemployment, economic growth, etc, you know the issues I got scolded for bringing up in a character discussion the other day? Darn, I did it again... This a character discussion.

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ANY elected official owes it to his/her constituents to uphold a certain standard of acceptable social behavior as well as benefiting the community they were elected to represent.
Bill Clinton was President and 49 years old when he left that stain on the 22 year old interns dress in the oval office when he should have been chasing Osama Bin Laden. Now THAT is character!


BrerRabbit - 12/7/2017 at 06:46 PM

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you are clearly blinded by partisan politics.


Nailed it.

It is clear that the right is incapable of self criticism. There is plenty of left wing condemnation of Franken, Clinton, etc., while the lockstep Borg right automatically defend any individual of their clone army. No matter what the question is, the right won't allow any doubts to besmirch their spotless collective. The right behaves like hardline Soviet style communism or the Third Reich. Zero tolerance for individual opinion.

No point in any discussion when they are all the same person. The right is all Trump.

"I AM NEGAN".




porkchopbob - 12/7/2017 at 06:53 PM

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I don't have to worry about that. I wouldn't give Roy Moore permission to date my daughter and my daughter is mart enough to NOT want Bill Clintons Willey (or anything that comes out of it) in her mouth. But both of you definitely get the Democrat Badge of Honor. Congratulations!


Glad she is a "mart" girl.

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I prefer lower taxes, lower unemployment, economic growth, etc,


Clearly you care about political party over character, otherwise you wouldn't be obsessing over a 20 year-old BJ.

[Edited on 12/7/2017 by porkchopbob]


BoytonBrother - 12/7/2017 at 06:59 PM

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I wouldn't give Roy Moore permission to date my daughter


He wouldn’t ask for it.

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and my daughter is mart enough to NOT want Bill Clintons Willey (or anything that comes out of it) in her mouth.


Wow. I could never speak that way about my daughter, hypothetical or not.



[Edited on 12/7/2017 by BoytonBrother]


2112 - 12/7/2017 at 07:15 PM

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Fact: Bill Clinton was 27 years older than her and she worked for him.


FACT: Donald Trump is 24 years older than Melania Trump.



Only matters when a Democrat is involved.

Still not sure why age difference is more important to KCJimmy than the age of the girl, and I still can't get over those defending an adult molesting a 14 year old girl. Boggles the mind.


pops42 - 12/7/2017 at 07:41 PM

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I know it's shocking when somebody condemn a pedophile, at least when so many in the GOP are supporting him. Wondering if Moore and Trump used to hang out at the elementary schools and exchange locker room talk about grabbing them by the pussy. Clinton may have been a pervert, but at least he wasn't a child molester.
Really? Roy who was 32 at the time is ACCUSED of attempting to touch / or actually touching a teenage girl (18 years younger than him) and according to the accuser he stopped when she said no. Clinton lied about, then admitted to sticking his wee wee in a young interns mouth (Less than half his age) IN THE OVAL OFFICE. How many of you can do THAT with an intern half you age in your office and still keep your job?

Fact: Bill Clinton was 27 years older than her and she worked for him.
Roy Moore's ACCUSER was 18 years younger than him. If it happened at all he stopped when she said no according to HER. When Bill was 32 Monica was 5!

I am not okay with either of these scenarios but if your daughter was one of these girls which one would you want her to be? I probably shouldn't ask that because it would not surprise me if some of you would consider it a badge of honor to know your daughter gave Bill a Lewinsky. Let's not forget Clinton may not meet your definition of child molester but he damn sure is a rapist. And if you dispute that then you have on blinders and are not willing to accept the truth.




[Edited on 12/7/2017 by KCJimmy]
Only an imbecile would compare 2 consenting adults, to a 32 year old man and a 14 year old girl. you are beyond brain-dead. no wonder you support trump.


Bhawk - 12/7/2017 at 07:46 PM

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Roy who was 32 at the time is ACCUSED of attempting to touch / or actually touching a teenage girl (18 years younger than him) and according to the accuser he stopped when she said no.


This is...somehow admirable?


jkeller - 12/7/2017 at 08:42 PM

It is clear that KCJimmy has a different set of standards for every occasion. Difference in age, political party, whether his taxes get lowered all take precedence over simple morality. Good on ya, man.


lukester420 - 12/7/2017 at 08:51 PM

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I don't have to worry about that. I wouldn't give Roy Moore permission to date my daughter and my daughter is mart enough to NOT want Bill Clintons Willey (or anything that comes out of it) in her mouth. But both of you definitely get the Democrat Badge of Honor. Congratulations!

I prefer lower taxes, lower unemployment, economic growth, etc, you know the issues I got scolded for bringing up in a character discussion the other day? Darn, I did it again... This a character discussion.

quote:
ANY elected official owes it to his/her constituents to uphold a certain standard of acceptable social behavior as well as benefiting the community they were elected to represent.
Bill Clinton was President and 49 years old when he left that stain on the 22 year old interns dress in the oval office when he should have been chasing Osama Bin Laden. Now THAT is character!

Did you see me defend Bill Clinton in this thread or simply point out that you and your ilk constantly deflect when faced with logic?

Then again your idea of logic is that consensual sex with an of age adult is WAAAAY worse than a man of power preying on underage girls. That’s good stuff, I’m mad I stayed off this forum for so long I needed the laughs


[Edited on 12/7/2017 by lukester420]


KCJimmy - 12/7/2017 at 09:04 PM

Never said you were defending Bill Clinton. But You DID say this,

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ANY elected official owes it to his/her constituents to uphold a certain standard of acceptable social behavior as well as benefiting the community they were elected to represent.
I am pointing out that while you may be right, there is no precedence for it. Recent example, Bill Clinton. Even better Bill Clinton WAS guilty. Admitted it eventually. He didn't step down. You are asking people, even your own, to step down based on accusations. Most of which are either anonymous or have not been proven. Think about that while you come up with your next witty post. God, I love this country!


porkchopbob - 12/7/2017 at 09:10 PM

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Recent example, Bill Clinton. Even better Bill Clinton WAS guilty. Admitted it eventually. He didn't step down.


Bill Clinton was guilty of perjury. You can't be guilty of getting a consensual BJ from an adult.

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You are asking people, even your own, to step down based on accusations. Most of which are either anonymous or have not been proven.


Here are the names of Moore's accusers (thus far)
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/politics/wp/2017/11/16/timeline-the-acc usations-against-roy-moore/?utm_term=.c365ee409200


lukester420 - 12/7/2017 at 09:17 PM

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Never said you were defending Bill Clinton. But You DID say this,
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ANY elected official owes it to his/her constituents to uphold a certain standard of acceptable social behavior as well as benefiting the community they were elected to represent.
I am pointing out that while you may be right, there is no precedence for it. Recent example, Bill Clinton. Even better Bill Clinton WAS guilty. Admitted it eventually. He didn't step down. You are asking people, even your own, to step down based on accusations. Most of which are either anonymous or have not been proven. Think about that while you come up with your next witty post. God, I love this country!

Bold assumption that the Clintons or Franken are “my” people.


KCJimmy - 12/7/2017 at 09:19 PM

Cool, Roy has accusers.

Here are Clintons Victims:
Monica Lewenski
Juanita Broaddrick
Kathleen Willey
Paula Jones

You are choosing to miss the point in an effort to make yourself look witty but it only makes people question your intelligence. I'll explain it slowly for you.

Why should Roy Moore, Donald Trump or Al Franken step down in the face of accusations when Bill Clinton wouldn't?



Bhawk - 12/7/2017 at 09:25 PM

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Why should Roy Moore, Donald Trump or Al Franken step down in the face of accusations when Bill Clinton wouldn't?



Well, Al Franken is stepping down, so...because Bill Clinton, Republican elected officials can do whatever they want when it comes to this kind of thing until the end of time?

Why is your condemnation/allowance/tolerance of sexual misconduct only run through a political filter?


BoytonBrother - 12/7/2017 at 09:29 PM

So that others don’t behave the way Bill did. You’ve been crying about Bill on here for how awful he was.


KCJimmy - 12/7/2017 at 09:43 PM

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Why should Roy Moore, Donald Trump or Al Franken step down in the face of accusations when Bill Clinton wouldn't?



Well, Al Franken is stepping down, so...because Bill Clinton, Republican elected officials can do whatever they want when it comes to this kind of thing until the end of time?

Why is your condemnation/allowance/tolerance of sexual misconduct only run through a political filter?

It's not. If I had sex with an intern 27 years younger than me in my office I would be fired. Wouldn't have to step down. However I would like to think that if I was accused of something I didn't do that I would have the opportunity to face my accuser, perhaps tell my side of the story. That doesn't seem unreasonable to me.


BrerRabbit - 12/7/2017 at 09:45 PM

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wee wee


Muleman1994 - 12/7/2017 at 11:13 PM

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Why should Roy Moore, Donald Trump or Al Franken step down in the face of accusations when Bill Clinton wouldn't?



Well, Al Franken is stepping down, so...because Bill Clinton, Republican elected officials can do whatever they want when it comes to this kind of thing until the end of time?

Why is your condemnation/allowance/tolerance of sexual misconduct only run through a political filter?

It's not. If I had sex with an intern 27 years younger than me in my office I would be fired. Wouldn't have to step down. However I would like to think that if I was accused of something I didn't do that I would have the opportunity to face my accuser, perhaps tell my side of the story. That doesn't seem unreasonable to me.



In the private sector you would have recourse and your accuser would have the burden of proof.
No so much in politics.

In the private sector you also would not have a tax-payer funded slush fund to pay the accuser off.
It would seem that now in politics just an accusation has become the norm.



Bhawk - 12/8/2017 at 12:27 AM

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Why should Roy Moore, Donald Trump or Al Franken step down in the face of accusations when Bill Clinton wouldn't?



Well, Al Franken is stepping down, so...because Bill Clinton, Republican elected officials can do whatever they want when it comes to this kind of thing until the end of time?

Why is your condemnation/allowance/tolerance of sexual misconduct only run through a political filter?

It's not. If I had sex with an intern 27 years younger than me in my office I would be fired. Wouldn't have to step down. However I would like to think that if I was accused of something I didn't do that I would have the opportunity to face my accuser, perhaps tell my side of the story. That doesn't seem unreasonable to me.


If you are referring to Roy Moore, what you are essentially saying is that you believe these women that you listed:

Juanita Broaddrick
Kathleen Willey
Paula Jones

But you don't believe Moore's accusers. Correct?

And, because Bill Clinton, Republican elected officials can do whatever they want when it comes to this kind of thing until the end of time?


lukester420 - 12/8/2017 at 05:20 AM

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Why should Roy Moore, Donald Trump or Al Franken step down in the face of accusations when Bill Clinton wouldn't?



Well, Al Franken is stepping down, so...because Bill Clinton, Republican elected officials can do whatever they want when it comes to this kind of thing until the end of time?

Why is your condemnation/allowance/tolerance of sexual misconduct only run through a political filter?

It's not. If I had sex with an intern 27 years younger than me in my office I would be fired. Wouldn't have to step down. However I would like to think that if I was accused of something I didn't do that I would have the opportunity to face my accuser, perhaps tell my side of the story. That doesn't seem unreasonable to me.


If you are referring to Roy Moore, what you are essentially saying is that you believe these women that you listed:

Juanita Broaddrick
Kathleen Willey
Paula Jones

But you don't believe Moore's accusers. Correct?

And, because Bill Clinton, Republican elected officials can do whatever they want when it comes to this kind of thing until the end of time?


Of course because- Bush Reagan good. Clinton Gore bad


porkchopbob - 12/8/2017 at 01:38 PM

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In the private sector you would have recourse and your accuser would have the burden of proof.
No so much in politics.

In the private sector you also would not have a tax-payer funded slush fund to pay the accuser off.
It would seem that now in politics just an accusation has become the norm.


That's not true at all. HR departments can fire people without a burden of proof, and people who are fired are welcome to sue and receive a settlement (of private company funds). Example: FOX News paid off Bill O'Reilly's accusers, and later fired him.


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