Thread: Secret Service out of money because of trump & family

pops42 - 8/21/2017 at 07:16 PM

https://www.cnbc.com/2017/08/21/exclusive-secret-service-out-of-money-to-pa y-agents-because-of-trumps-frequent-travel-large-family.html


gina - 8/21/2017 at 10:05 PM


What if he privatizes part of it and uses Blackwater agents to protect the family instead of Secret Service Agents?


jkeller - 8/21/2017 at 10:38 PM

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What if he privatizes part of it and uses Blackwater agents to protect the family instead of Secret Service Agents?


He does not have the authority or the money to do it. He has abused the taxpayers for his own personal gain.


gina - 8/21/2017 at 10:43 PM


Well if we can send them to Afghanistan, privatizing the military, they can privitize other parts of the govt. and probably do it cheaper. Sure Congress would have to vote on it and they can't get much done but considering all the opposition he has, he could have former military and/or others protect him for less than the Secret Service cost to do it.


jkeller - 8/21/2017 at 11:10 PM

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Well if we can send them to Afghanistan, privatizing the military, they can privitize other parts of the govt. and probably do it cheaper. Sure Congress would have to vote on it and they can't get much done but considering all the opposition he has, he could have former military and/or others protect him for less than the Secret Service cost to do it.


Why would you think that would be cheaper? Why would you think that would work better? It would cost far more and push the responsibility to people untrained for the job. And, it would have to be approved by Congress and funded by Congress. It makes absolutely no sense.


Muleman1994 - 8/21/2017 at 11:24 PM

The Secret Service is not out of money.
The corrupt liberal media has picked another nonsense issue to misrepresent the facts and not mention the regulations that apply.

What are the regulations that apply to this matter and how are they adaptable for the circumstances?
The corrupt liberal media omitted them in their hit-piece.
Now sit back and watch kids and the far-leftists go silent because they have no idea. the corrupt liberal media failed to tell them.


BoytonBrother - 8/21/2017 at 11:45 PM

Mule, do you consider Fox News to be corrupt right-wing media?


Muleman1994 - 8/21/2017 at 11:51 PM

Well the first idiot to chime in has no clue as to what the regulations are that apply to this matter and how are they adaptable for the circumstances.

Anyone else want to try?


BoytonBrother - 8/21/2017 at 11:56 PM

Nobody cares.


pops42 - 8/22/2017 at 12:06 AM

Maybe they could look the other way, and let him get winged.


jkeller - 8/22/2017 at 12:19 AM

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The Secret Service is not out of money.
The corrupt liberal media has picked another nonsense issue to misrepresent the facts and not mention the regulations that apply.

What are the regulations that apply to this matter and how are they adaptable for the circumstances?
The corrupt liberal media omitted them in their hit-piece.
Now sit back and watch kids and the far-leftists go silent because they have no idea. the corrupt liberal media failed to tell them.




Had you bothered to read the link, which we know you are too lazy to do, you would have seen this:

Secret Service Director Randolph "Tex'' Alles, in an interview with USA TODAY, said more than 1,000 agents have already hit the federally mandated caps for salary and overtime allowances that were meant to last the entire year.

The agency has faced a crushing workload since the height of the contentious election season, and it has not relented in the first seven months of the administration. Agents must protect Trump who has traveled almost every weekend to his properties in Florida, New Jersey and Virginia and his adult children whose business trips and vacations have taken them across the country and overseas.




Did Alles lie? know. Fox News reported the same thing. But you are too lazy to do any research.


MartinD28 - 8/22/2017 at 12:39 AM

What's wrong with we the taxpayers footing the bill for his kids jet setting around the world.? It's not like the Trumps are billionaires.

C'mon...why would be upset with talk of cuts to social programs as long as Don Jr. and Eric can party around the world? We need to make good use of taxpayer dollars.


[Edited on 8/22/2017 by MartinD28]


Muleman1994 - 8/22/2017 at 02:15 AM

Not one lefties has a clue as to what the regulations are that apply to this matter and how are they adaptable for the circumstances.

Sad but typical of the type.


jkeller - 8/22/2017 at 03:07 AM

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Not one lefties has a clue as to what the regulations are that apply to this matter and how are they adaptable for the circumstances.

Sad but typical of the type.



The clueless troll called the original link a lie even though it was an interview with the Secret Servie Director.

Then he says none of us has a clue. You can't make this stuff up.


2112 - 8/22/2017 at 02:58 PM

Maybe Trump can stop charging the Secret Service outrageous rent for space in Trump Tower.


Muleman1994 - 8/22/2017 at 04:03 PM

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Maybe Trump can stop charging the Secret Service outrageous rent for space in Trump Tower.



The Clinton's charge the Secret Service rent for staying on their property in Chappaqua and Arkansas.

Still not one lefties has a clue as to what the regulations are that apply to this matter and how are they adaptable for the circumstances.



pops42 - 8/22/2017 at 04:07 PM

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Maybe Trump can stop charging the Secret Service outrageous rent for space in Trump Tower.



The Clinton's charge the Secret Service rent for staying on their property in Chappaqua and Arkansas.

Still not one lefties has a clue as to what the regulations are that apply to this matter and how are they adaptable for the circumstances.



Once again you prove how clueless and uninformed you are: K K Kluless


Jerry - 8/22/2017 at 04:37 PM

The CNBC article left out something.

"Allies cited overall increases to his agency's staff levels,which grew by 800 this year, as a factor driving the extra costs, calling the issue "not one that can be attributed to the current administration's protection requirements alone."

The WAPO article also stated: " Allies called the agency's current predicament, first reported by USA Today, "an ongoing issue for nearly a decade due to an overall increase in operational tempo."


pops42 - 8/22/2017 at 05:13 PM

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The CNBC article left out something.

"Allies cited overall increases to his agency's staff levels,which grew by 800 this year, as a factor driving the extra costs, calling the issue "not one that can be attributed to the current administration's protection requirements alone."

The WAPO article also stated: " Allies called the agency's current predicament, first reported by USA Today, "an ongoing issue for nearly a decade due to an overall increase in operational tempo."


Bullsh!t.


Jerry - 8/22/2017 at 05:48 PM

quote:
quote:
The CNBC article left out something.

"Allies cited overall increases to his agency's staff levels,which grew by 800 this year, as a factor driving the extra costs, calling the issue "not one that can be attributed to the current administration's protection requirements alone."

The WAPO article also stated: " Allies called the agency's current predicament, first reported by USA Today, "an ongoing issue for nearly a decade due to an overall increase in operational tempo."


Bullsh!t.


Are you calling the Washington Post bullsh!t?
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/secret-service-says-it-will-run-out -of-money-to-protect-trump--and-his-family-sept30/2017/08/21/93d30132-868c- 11e7-961d-2f373b3977ee_story.html?utm_term=,1f21dc08556d

Read it and see who is spouting bullcrap


jkeller - 8/22/2017 at 05:52 PM

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Maybe Trump can stop charging the Secret Service outrageous rent for space in Trump Tower.



The Clinton's charge the Secret Service rent for staying on their property in Chappaqua and Arkansas.

Still not one lefties has a clue as to what the regulations are that apply to this matter and how are they adaptable for the circumstances.





Always good to know that Mule reads his spam emails.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/clintons/landlord.asp


pops42 - 8/22/2017 at 06:11 PM

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quote:
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The CNBC article left out something.

"Allies cited overall increases to his agency's staff levels,which grew by 800 this year, as a factor driving the extra costs, calling the issue "not one that can be attributed to the current administration's protection requirements alone."

The WAPO article also stated: " Allies called the agency's current predicament, first reported by USA Today, "an ongoing issue for nearly a decade due to an overall increase in operational tempo."


Bullsh!t.


Are you calling the Washington Post bullsh!t?
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/secret-service-says-it-will-run-out -of-money-to-protect-trump--and-his-family-sept30/2017/08/21/93d30132-868c- 11e7-961d-2f373b3977ee_story.html?utm_term=,1f21dc08556d

Read it and see who is spouting bullcrap
Fact of the matter is: Its never been this bad, until trump and his family of parasites started using secret service protection well in excess of the norm, for personal business and vacations. deny that.


Jerry - 8/22/2017 at 06:17 PM

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quote:
quote:
quote:
The CNBC article left out something.

"Allies cited overall increases to his agency's staff levels,which grew by 800 this year, as a factor driving the extra costs, calling the issue "not one that can be attributed to the current administration's protection requirements alone."

The WAPO article also stated: " Allies called the agency's current predicament, first reported by USA Today, "an ongoing issue for nearly a decade due to an overall increase in operational tempo."


Bullsh!t.


Are you calling the Washington Post bullsh!t?
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/secret-service-says-it-will-run-out -of-money-to-protect-trump--and-his-family-sept30/2017/08/21/93d30132-868c- 11e7-961d-2f373b3977ee_story.html?utm_term=,1f21dc08556d

Read it and see who is spouting bullcrap
Fact of the matter is: Its never been this bad, until trump and his family of parasites started using secret service protection well in excess of the norm, for personal business and vacations. deny that.


Did you miss the part "an ongoing issue for nearly a decade"? You don't think that problem was caused by the Obama family going on vacation, personal trips by his family, and jaunts to Hawaii? Trump hasn't been president for ten years, but Obama was for the past eight.


2112 - 8/22/2017 at 06:56 PM

quote:
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quote:
The CNBC article left out something.

"Allies cited overall increases to his agency's staff levels,which grew by 800 this year, as a factor driving the extra costs, calling the issue "not one that can be attributed to the current administration's protection requirements alone."

The WAPO article also stated: " Allies called the agency's current predicament, first reported by USA Today, "an ongoing issue for nearly a decade due to an overall increase in operational tempo."


Bullsh!t.


Are you calling the Washington Post bullsh!t?
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/secret-service-says-it-will-run-out -of-money-to-protect-trump--and-his-family-sept30/2017/08/21/93d30132-868c- 11e7-961d-2f373b3977ee_story.html?utm_term=,1f21dc08556d

Read it and see who is spouting bullcrap
Fact of the matter is: Its never been this bad, until trump and his family of parasites started using secret service protection well in excess of the norm, for personal business and vacations. deny that.


Did you miss the part "an ongoing issue for nearly a decade"? You don't think that problem was caused by the Obama family going on vacation, personal trips by his family, and jaunts to Hawaii? Trump hasn't been president for ten years, but Obama was for the past eight.


The secret service is on pace to spend more protecting Trump in his first year than they spent for all 8 years for Obama, but by all means let's blame Obama anyway since you are apparently unable to criticise Trump for anything.


https://www.forbes.com/sites/niallmccarthy/2017/02/22/trumps-family-trips-c ost-taxpayers-nearly-as-much-in-a-month-as-obamas-cost-in-a-whole-year/#411 b20d736e4


Jerry - 8/22/2017 at 07:15 PM

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quote:
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quote:
The CNBC article left out something.

"Allies cited overall increases to his agency's staff levels,which grew by 800 this year, as a factor driving the extra costs, calling the issue "not one that can be attributed to the current administration's protection requirements alone."

The WAPO article also stated: " Allies called the agency's current predicament, first reported by USA Today, "an ongoing issue for nearly a decade due to an overall increase in operational tempo."


Bullsh!t.


Are you calling the Washington Post bullsh!t?
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/secret-service-says-it-will-run-out -of-money-to-protect-trump--and-his-family-sept30/2017/08/21/93d30132-868c- 11e7-961d-2f373b3977ee_story.html?utm_term=,1f21dc08556d

Read it and see who is spouting bullcrap
Fact of the matter is: Its never been this bad, until trump and his family of parasites started using secret service protection well in excess of the norm, for personal business and vacations. deny that.


Did you miss the part "an ongoing issue for nearly a decade"? You don't think that problem was caused by the Obama family going on vacation, personal trips by his family, and jaunts to Hawaii? Trump hasn't been president for ten years, but Obama was for the past eight.


The secret service is on pace to spend more protecting Trump in his first year than they spent for all 8 years for Obama, but by all means let's blame Obama anyway since you are apparently unable to criticise Trump for anything.


https://www.forbes.com/sites/niallmccarthy/2017/02/22/trumps-family-trips-c ost-taxpayers-nearly-as-much-in-a-month-as-obamas-cost-in-a-whole-year/#411 b20d736e4


We could partially since Obama was in office for half of January.

Again, you want to blame Trump, even thought the same problem has come up for the past ten years.


2112 - 8/22/2017 at 07:38 PM

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The CNBC article left out something.

"Allies cited overall increases to his agency's staff levels,which grew by 800 this year, as a factor driving the extra costs, calling the issue "not one that can be attributed to the current administration's protection requirements alone."

The WAPO article also stated: " Allies called the agency's current predicament, first reported by USA Today, "an ongoing issue for nearly a decade due to an overall increase in operational tempo."


Bullsh!t.


Are you calling the Washington Post bullsh!t?
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/secret-service-says-it-will-run-out -of-money-to-protect-trump--and-his-family-sept30/2017/08/21/93d30132-868c- 11e7-961d-2f373b3977ee_story.html?utm_term=,1f21dc08556d

Read it and see who is spouting bullcrap
Fact of the matter is: Its never been this bad, until trump and his family of parasites started using secret service protection well in excess of the norm, for personal business and vacations. deny that.


Did you miss the part "an ongoing issue for nearly a decade"? You don't think that problem was caused by the Obama family going on vacation, personal trips by his family, and jaunts to Hawaii? Trump hasn't been president for ten years, but Obama was for the past eight.


The secret service is on pace to spend more protecting Trump in his first year than they spent for all 8 years for Obama, but by all means let's blame Obama anyway since you are apparently unable to criticise Trump for anything.


https://www.forbes.com/sites/niallmccarthy/2017/02/22/trumps-family-trips-c ost-taxpayers-nearly-as-much-in-a-month-as-obamas-cost-in-a-whole-year/#411 b20d736e4


We could partially since Obama was in office for half of January.

Again, you want to blame Trump, even thought the same problem has come up for the past ten years.


It's not the same problem. It's the problem times 10. That's like saying havimg a 1 billion dollar deficit for 10 years is the same as having a sudden increase to a $10 billion deficit in a single year. Or having your tax bill increase by 10 times in a single year. Not the same problem at all, but let's blame Obama anyway even though he has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with this.


gina - 8/22/2017 at 08:49 PM

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Well if we can send them to Afghanistan, privatizing the military, they can privitize other parts of the govt. and probably do it cheaper. Sure Congress would have to vote on it and they can't get much done but considering all the opposition he has, he could have former military and/or others protect him for less than the Secret Service cost to do it.


Why would you think that would be cheaper? Why would you think that would work better? It would cost far more and push the responsibility to people untrained for the job. And, it would have to be approved by Congress and funded by Congress. It makes absolutely no sense.


I think it would be cheaper because several things can be done. First, Trump family members could stay only in his hotels around the country and world, (and are not charged for being there, they sleep for free and eat for free), and so should those who are protecting them. The Secret Service had to pay for staying and setting up a command post in Trump Tower, they should not have, why weren't they given free room and board? He owns the place, he could have done that.

Third, Blackwater trained personnel can work on a retainer basis not an hourly cost basis. Negotiate the fees for whatever event they are covering and providing services for. A flat fee for a weekend of accompanying someone is cheaper than an hourly rate. Plain and simple.

As for training, they take no crap from anyone, they train in the worst conditions, like other para military and military, they are better trained.



[Edited on 8/22/2017 by gina]


jkeller - 8/22/2017 at 09:04 PM

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quote:
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Well if we can send them to Afghanistan, privatizing the military, they can privitize other parts of the govt. and probably do it cheaper. Sure Congress would have to vote on it and they can't get much done but considering all the opposition he has, he could have former military and/or others protect him for less than the Secret Service cost to do it.


Why would you think that would be cheaper? Why would you think that would work better? It would cost far more and push the responsibility to people untrained for the job. And, it would have to be approved by Congress and funded by Congress. It makes absolutely no sense.


I think it would be cheaper because several things can be done. First, Trump family members could stay only in his hotels around the country and world, (and are not charged for being there, they sleep for free and eat for free), and so should those who are protecting them. The Secret Service had to pay for staying and setting up a command post in Trump Tower, they should not have, why weren't they given free room and board? He owns the place, he could have done that.

Third, Blackwater trained personnel can work on a retainer basis not an hourly cost basis. Negotiate the fees for whatever event they are covering and providing services for. A flat fee for a weekend of accompanying someone is cheaper than an hourly rate. Plain and simple.

As for training, they take no crap from anyone, they train in the worst conditions, like other para military and military, they are better trained.



[Edited on 8/22/2017 by gina]


No, you are way off.

1. Trump will not let the Secret Service stay for free. He has already proven that. He likes to profit from his sidency. That, BTW, is a violation of the emoluments law.

2. Wait, you didn't have a two. You jumped to three.

3. Presidential protection is a 24/7 job. They are present wherever Trump, his family and anyone else they protect is located. This includes the White House. There can be no "on call" situation. And Blackwater training is completely different from protection work. If that was al that was needed, we could rotate US Army members through the job. Secret Service protection duty is far more complicated and labor intensive than you realize.


2112 - 8/23/2017 at 04:21 AM

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Well if we can send them to Afghanistan, privatizing the military, they can privitize other parts of the govt. and probably do it cheaper. Sure Congress would have to vote on it and they can't get much done but considering all the opposition he has, he could have former military and/or others protect him for less than the Secret Service cost to do it.


Why would you think that would be cheaper? Why would you think that would work better? It would cost far more and push the responsibility to people untrained for the job. And, it would have to be approved by Congress and funded by Congress. It makes absolutely no sense.


I think it would be cheaper because several things can be done. First, Trump family members could stay only in his hotels around the country and world, (and are not charged for being there, they sleep for free and eat for free), and so should those who are protecting them. The Secret Service had to pay for staying and setting up a command post in Trump Tower, they should not have, why weren't they given free room and board? He owns the place, he could have done that.

Third, Blackwater trained personnel can work on a retainer basis not an hourly cost basis. Negotiate the fees for whatever event they are covering and providing services for. A flat fee for a weekend of accompanying someone is cheaper than an hourly rate. Plain and simple.

As for training, they take no crap from anyone, they train in the worst conditions, like other para military and military, they are better trained.



[Edited on 8/22/2017 by gina]


No, you are way off.

1. Trump will not let the Secret Service stay for free. He has already proven that. He likes to profit from his sidency. That, BTW, is a violation of the emoluments law.

2. Wait, you didn't have a two. You jumped to three.

3. Presidential protection is a 24/7 job. They are present wherever Trump, his family and anyone else they protect is located. This includes the White House. There can be no "on call" situation. And Blackwater training is completely different from protection work. If that was al that was needed, we could rotate US Army members through the job. Secret Service protection duty is far more complicated and labor intensive than you realize.



Not only is Trump not providing the secret service with free room and board in Trump Tower, he is charging them over twice what he is charging other tenants for similar space. Trump is definitely nickel and diming the US government as much as he can. Trump empire first. US taxpayers way down the list somewhere.


Muleman1994 - 8/23/2017 at 01:45 PM

Still not one lefties has a clue as to what the regulations are that apply to this matter and how are they adaptable for the circumstances.

The Secret Service Director explained that they have many options to deal with the regulations and related funding. The corrupt liberal media and the far-left hate group here did not mention that.

The Executive Branch can, and does under every administration, move funding around as that deem necessary and as the Secret Service Director said the USA article omitted much of what he actually said. The corrupt liberal media and the far-left hate group here did not mention that.

Just another nonsense manufactured hit-piece buy the corrupt liberal media and their far-left extremists lemmings here in the W/P bought it again.


pops42 - 8/23/2017 at 01:54 PM

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Still not one lefties has a clue as to what the regulations are that apply to this matter and how are they adaptable for the circumstances.

The Secret Service Director explained that they have many options to deal with the regulations and related funding. The corrupt liberal media and the far-left hate group here did not mention that.

The Executive Branch can, and does under every administration, move funding around as that deem necessary and as the Secret Service Director said the USA article omitted much of what he actually said. The corrupt liberal media and the far-left hate group here did not mention that.

Just another nonsense manufactured hit-piece buy the corrupt liberal media and their far-left extremists lemmings here in the W/P bought it again.


Keep on f#cking that chicken!.


BillyBlastoff - 8/23/2017 at 05:06 PM

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Still not one lefties has a clue as to what the regulations are that apply to this matter and how are they adaptable for the circumstances.

The Secret Service Director explained that they have many options to deal with the regulations and related funding. The corrupt liberal media and the far-left hate group here did not mention that.

The Executive Branch can, and does under every administration, move funding around as that deem necessary and as the Secret Service Director said the USA article omitted much of what he actually said. The corrupt liberal media and the far-left hate group here did not mention that.

Just another nonsense manufactured hit-piece buy the corrupt liberal media and their far-left extremists lemmings here in the W/P bought it again.


You are dishonest to your core Comrade Muleski. It this were Obama's family spending this money and profiting off the Presidency you'd be having a stroke.

You are a liar Sir. Just like your traitorous, weak, lying Donald Trump.


gina - 8/23/2017 at 10:33 PM

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Well if we can send them to Afghanistan, privatizing the military, they can privitize other parts of the govt. and probably do it cheaper. Sure Congress would have to vote on it and they can't get much done but considering all the opposition he has, he could have former military and/or others protect him for less than the Secret Service cost to do it.


Why would you think that would be cheaper? Why would you think that would work better? It would cost far more and push the responsibility to people untrained for the job. And, it would have to be approved by Congress and funded by Congress. It makes absolutely no sense.


I think it would be cheaper because several things can be done. First, Trump family members could stay only in his hotels around the country and world, (and are not charged for being there, they sleep for free and eat for free), and so should those who are protecting them. The Secret Service had to pay for staying and setting up a command post in Trump Tower, they should not have, why weren't they given free room and board? He owns the place, he could have done that.

Third, Blackwater trained personnel can work on a retainer basis not an hourly cost basis. Negotiate the fees for whatever event they are covering and providing services for. A flat fee for a weekend of accompanying someone is cheaper than an hourly rate. Plain and simple.

As for training, they take no crap from anyone, they train in the worst conditions, like other para military and military, they are better trained.



[Edited on 8/22/2017 by gina]


No, you are way off.

1. Trump will not let the Secret Service stay for free. He has already proven that. He likes to profit from his sidency. That, BTW, is a violation of the emoluments law.

2. Wait, you didn't have a two. You jumped to three.

3. Presidential protection is a 24/7 job. They are present wherever Trump, his family and anyone else they protect is located. This includes the White House. There can be no "on call" situation. And Blackwater training is completely different from protection work. If that was al that was needed, we could rotate US Army members through the job. Secret Service protection duty is far more complicated and labor intensive than you realize.



Number 2 was that they should not have had to pay for the command post in Trump Tower. But I read recently that they left there due to the cost.

With regard to 3. something needs to be worked out. Obviously there needs to be some staff that are around him all the time, but then others who are only needed at other times. Anytime he goes somewhere, there have to be more people than the ones who are normally around him because the White House is pretty much a contained environment. He has his routines and regular schedules.


MartinD28 - 8/24/2017 at 12:55 AM

Maybe he should take advantage of Camp David for its setup, proximity, and purpose. On the other hand, it might present a more difficult challenge for President Emoluments to make money as a businessman and on the backs of taxpayers.

[Edited on 8/24/2017 by MartinD28]


2112 - 8/24/2017 at 02:12 AM

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Maybe he should take advantage of Camp David for its setup, proximity, and purpose. On the other hand, it might present a more difficult challenge for President Emoluments to make money as a businessman and on the backs of taxpayers.

[Edited on 8/24/2017 by MartinD28]


Why would Trump want to be president if he can't make a fortune off it?


Jerry - 8/25/2017 at 03:42 AM

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Maybe he should take advantage of Camp David for its setup, proximity, and purpose. On the other hand, it might present a more difficult challenge for President Emoluments to make money as a businessman and on the backs of taxpayers.

[Edited on 8/24/2017 by MartinD28]


Why would Trump want to be president if he can't make a fortune off it?


Why has anyone in the past 40 years been president except to make money?


Chain - 8/25/2017 at 09:35 PM

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Maybe he should take advantage of Camp David for its setup, proximity, and purpose. On the other hand, it might present a more difficult challenge for President Emoluments to make money as a businessman and on the backs of taxpayers.

[Edited on 8/24/2017 by MartinD28]


Why would Trump want to be president if he can't make a fortune off it?


Why has anyone in the past 40 years been president except to make money?


Of course they leverage their service to make money....But while actually serving as President some office holders have a passion to govern and improve the lives of others. The two are not necessarily exclusive. Trump, it seems to me at least, is serving primarily to enrich himself, his family, and to feed his huge ego. I consider this fact to be pretty evident given his behavior and lack of following long standing rules regarding conflicts of interest, divestiture of assets, etc.


Chain - 8/25/2017 at 09:41 PM

Now, with regard to the fiscal health of the Secret Service, to be fair, Trump has racked up tremendous bills for security of not only himself but his numerous adult children. But there are other factors as to why the Secret Service is stretched a bit thin in the fiscal dept. One big one is the fact that we have many president still alive and breathing and they require security expenditures for not only themselves but many of their adult children.

There are numerous reasons to criticize Trump and his henchman, but security expenses are the least of them...


gina - 8/25/2017 at 10:45 PM

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Maybe he should take advantage of Camp David for its setup, proximity, and purpose. On the other hand, it might present a more difficult challenge for President Emoluments to make money as a businessman and on the backs of taxpayers.

[Edited on 8/24/2017 by MartinD28]


Why would Trump want to be president if he can't make a fortune off it?


Why has anyone in the past 40 years been president except to make money?


Power.


gina - 8/25/2017 at 10:48 PM

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Now, with regard to the fiscal health of the Secret Service, to be fair, Trump has racked up tremendous bills for security of not only himself but his numerous adult children. But there are other factors as to why the Secret Service is stretched a bit thin in the fiscal dept. One big one is the fact that we have many president still alive and breathing and they require security expenditures for not only themselves but many of their adult children.

There are numerous reasons to criticize Trump and his henchman, but security expenses are the least of them...


Many celebrities have quite capable security detail men/teams, maybe the past President's families could use some celebrity protection people and save us some money; or even pay for it themselves, how about that?


jkeller - 8/26/2017 at 12:12 AM

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Now, with regard to the fiscal health of the Secret Service, to be fair, Trump has racked up tremendous bills for security of not only himself but his numerous adult children. But there are other factors as to why the Secret Service is stretched a bit thin in the fiscal dept. One big one is the fact that we have many president still alive and breathing and they require security expenditures for not only themselves but many of their adult children.

There are numerous reasons to criticize Trump and his henchman, but security expenses are the least of them...


Many celebrities have quite capable security detail men/teams, maybe the past President's families could use some celebrity protection people and save us some money; or even pay for it themselves, how about that?


How many of those celebrity body guards would take a bullet to save their celeb? very few. Every Secret Service person would do it gladly.

Really, give it up. You have no clue.


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