Thread: New York Knicks

robslob - 2/9/2017 at 02:08 PM

https://sports.yahoo.com/news/charles-oakley-arrested-at-msg-after-reported ly-going-after-knicks-owner-james-dolan-015312739.html

First Phil Jackson vs. Carmelo Anthony, now Charles Oakley is arrested at a game. Can a professional sports franchise get any more dysfunctional than this?

I personally think that Jackson sees a need to clean house and start over and he's trying to get Carmelo to void his no-trade clause.

As far as Oakley, one observer said that he saw Oakley do nothing to precipitate the confrontation. Another says that James Dolan thought Oakley was sitting too close and sent security over to his seat. Why? Hey, I wasn't there...........it's all speculation.


robslob - 2/9/2017 at 02:33 PM

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/news/sources-phil-jacksons-public-actions-stee ling-melos-resolve-to-stay-with-knicks-204859718.html

Heat rising in Jackson vs. Melo.........


robslob - 2/9/2017 at 03:28 PM

Just watching ESPN with Steven A. Smith and another commentator (don't know who) debating Oakley's ejection.

For the younger crowd who may not know who Charles Oakley is: In the late 80's and the 90's he was the baddest power forward in the NBA............known as "The Enforcer".

While he didn't agree with Oakley pushing security personnel, Steven A. Smith did have this to say: "If you messed with Patrick Ewing, you had Charles Oakley to deal with. He was the Enforcer, and that was true both on and off the court".

And later from Smith, who knows Oakley personally, "Charles never went around looking for confrontations. But if you were looking for him, he's going to be readily available for one. Just the kind of guy he is."

[Edited on 2/9/2017 by robslob]


Brendan - 2/9/2017 at 03:54 PM

Very disappointing times for this long time Knicks fan. A lot of people have been openly critical of Melo, but he's the only one that's acting like a professional right now. Jackson is Tweeting about one of his players? C'mon, he should be better that.


porkchopbob - 2/9/2017 at 04:25 PM

quote:
"If you messed with Patrick Ewing, you had Charles Oakley to deal with. He was the Enforcer, and that was true both on and off the court".


Jordan never forgave the Bulls for trading Oak away and he took it out on Bill Cartwright for years. It's been sad to see such a great franchise in the NBA's premiere arena stuck in the doldrums for so long. But this is what happens when a rich petulant child is in charge (was that too subtle?)


dzobo - 2/9/2017 at 06:05 PM

Long, long time Knicks fan (remember Richie Guerin?). Now stuck with an incompetent owner, an over-rated and ineffective club president, and a 7'2" unicorn who has almost no inside game and average rebounding skills. Melo looks like a prince in the midst of this dysfunctional mess. Unlike most years though, at least they didn't trade away their #1 draft pick for some over the hill veteran.


Stephen - 2/9/2017 at 11:15 PM

The piece of paper looked alright for NYK, too -- Porzingis & Melo up front, Noah in post, Rose in backcourt, a solid backup in O'Quinn -- it made me nervous but alas -- some worms in the big apple>basketball -- Melo is great, only he weighs teams down (look at DeMarcus, they beat us last night w/out him) -- & there's Hornacek, dysfunctionalizing -- he & Phil might be outta town soon -- just hope they're safe in all the snow that's falling there right now

Gimme a team w/Melo DeMarcus & Rajon & I'll coachem to to hoop glory -- 3 against 5


jszfunk - 2/9/2017 at 11:45 PM

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The piece of paper looked alright for NYK, too -- Porzingis & Melo up front, Noah in post, Rose in backcourt, a solid backup in O'Quinn -- it made me nervous but alas -- some worms in the big apple>basketball -- Melo is great, only he weighs teams down (look at DeMarcus, they beat us last night w/out him) -- & there's Hornacek, dysfunctionalizing -- he & Phil might be outta town soon -- just hope they're safe in all the snow that's falling there right now

Gimme a team w/Melo DeMarcus & Rajon & I'll coachem to to hoop glory -- 3 against 5



i would not give a. bag of balls for melo,rajon ad cousins.


Stephen - 2/9/2017 at 11:57 PM

can't say they're not uber-talented players tho -- head cases? nah....
their individual talents surpass the mere "team" concept of basketball -- they're "mercurial"
back to thread, yes, NYK struggling


Stephen - 3/4/2017 at 07:29 PM

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BroBoynton, "trust the process!" bro -- the Sixiz are coming back, they still have Simmons on the shelf...good to see the Sixiz playing well
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guess 6iz didn't trust the process for long -- Tiago isn't too bad, but still....w/this trade Phila conceding Embiid's knees too creaky & he'll never be able to play a full season -- they've had the most rotten luck in their draft picks

AB is back, let's go Celts, there's every reason to believe....
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even w/out Embiid, Sixiz still had enough process last night to defeat a NYK team whose coach was the most irrelevant person in the building
2 once-proud franchises, In The Doldrums --

if today's medical advances are such Hot **** , why do knee/foot injuries shelve rookies for 12-24 months now??? that's what sixiz must be asking --
he caused excitement in Phila, too bad about Embiid -- looks like a Sam Bowie future awaits both him and Simmons

& the Lakiz, another once-proud franchise -- their fans snickered as we smoked em last night -- now there's talk of "a coup in the Buss family" for control (ESPN), WTF -- Magic, bail bro, you don't need it

we're doin' it, right now -- everyone healthy, we're playing well -- let's go Celts


[Edited on 3/4/2017 by Stephen]


Stephen - 4/8/2017 at 01:36 PM

Our play has fallen off of late tho -- we've given up 100-plus points in nine of our last 10 games -- Cavs turned highly anticipated Wed game into a clinic, On Our Floor .... Al Horford was a No-Show Thurs in Atlanta & C's can't afford to have any more of those -- he's played really well this year

maybe it's just the current culture of resting players, or merely going through the motions at the end of a long season -- but w/conf. title at stake & much to play for, the dropoff in play is concerning -- We'll Be OK

Happy Birthday, Jarrin' John Havlicek -- Let's Go Celts


robslob - 4/8/2017 at 02:26 PM

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Al Horford was a No-Show Thurs in Atlanta & C's can't afford to have any more of those


You mean he just didn't bother showing up for the game? You're kidding me............


Stephen - 6/28/2017 at 04:32 PM

It had to happen ("Jackson, Knicks Part Ways") -- the best-laid plans, in this case bringing the Chicago approach to NY w/Rose & Noah...

didn't fly, but this really makes it Melo's team now along w/Hornacek -- let's see how/if Knickerbockers rebound next season -- they actively shopped Porzingis but no takers


Brendan - 6/28/2017 at 05:02 PM

I think it's probably more accurate to say that Jackson shopped Porzingis. I'm not convinced that would have ever even happened. Regardless, we still have him and Jackson is hopefully leaving our beautiful city. He was an unmitigated disaster.


emr - 6/28/2017 at 06:37 PM

I'm going to make a way out statement. My guess is Jackson wanted Carmelo gone at any cost. Dolan refused do Phil bad mouthed Carmelo as a final f u to Dolan who is the real cancer


IPowrie - 6/28/2017 at 11:22 PM

Jackson is gone and the Knicks would be better off without Carmelo. The more interesting thing that happened was the Chris Paul trade to Houston.


PhotoRon286 - 6/29/2017 at 02:51 AM

When he took us to a national title at Syracuse, Melo had players around him that contributed.

Not so in NY.

Jackson was an ass playing the drama queen bit in public.

He deserves to be unemployed.


Stephen - 7/6/2017 at 04:51 PM

Looks like its becoming less rumor/more real -- Melo could join LeBron in Cleve
time is running out like a NY minute on Melo's title aspirations -- "the Cavs or Rockets can have me" the charismatic forward has said

Houston would be better fit -- Harden Paul & Anthony -- it sounds real official


emr - 7/6/2017 at 06:44 PM

If Melo a lesser role in one of those cities his sixth man scoring of the bench will help. He won't do so in NYC; as I Knicks fan I can't wait to see him go. Just a lousy fit on a rebuilding team looking for speed/ball movement.

Earl Monroe made that transition; Oscar Robertson made that transition; Bill Walton made that transition


Stephen - 7/24/2017 at 11:41 PM

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Gimme a team w/Melo DeMarcus & Rajon & I'll coachem to to hoop glory -- 3 against 5




I don't know what Melo is waiting for -- Rajon, at DeMarcus Cousins' urging, has signed with NO for Part II & 2/3rds once again of the all-mercurial headcase team -- now it only needs Melo -- am surprised he doesn't put them on his list -- RR feeding him, DeMarcus and Anthony Davis?? Good night

Rajon found DeMarcus for over 200 assists in Sac -- the most to any one player according to the internet
it will be an embarrassment if Melo walks on the floor this season in a NYK uniform -- Houston & Cavs, the 2 teams he had on his list, apparently aren't interested


Stephen - 9/25/2017 at 03:55 PM

Did Russell Westbrook sign off on this
Russell along w/IT was All-World last season
now it's back to sharing the rock, just like in the KD days

Blowing Into Town Like An Oklahoma Tornado, MELO -- didn't work out in Melo's hometown -- same Bulls, who've cut ties w/hometown boy Dwayne Wade

But chemists ask, how will it go -- Melo w/Westbrook -- DeMarcus & Rajon Rondo w/Anthony Davis in NO -- our guys along w/Derrick Rose w/LeBron -- good luck Isaiah, you gave us a season to remember

finally, our 3, Hayward Horford Kyrie -- let's go Celts



[Edited on 9/25/2017 by Stephen]


jszfunk - 9/25/2017 at 06:20 PM

quote:
Did Russell Westbrook sign off on this
Russell along w/IT was All-World last season
now it's back to sharing the rock, just like in the KD days

Blowing Into Town Like An Oklahoma Tornado, MELO -- didn't work out in Melo's hometown -- same Bulls, who've cut ties w/hometown boy Dwayne Wade

But chemists ask, how will it go -- Melo w/Westbrook -- DeMarcus & Rajon Rondo w/Anthony Davis in NO -- our guys along w/Derrick Rose w/LeBron -- good luck Isaiah, you gave us a season to remember

finally, our 3, Hayward Horford Kyrie -- let's go Celts



[Edited on 9/25/2017 by Stephen]

Paul George is there too with OKC. I still say its going through GS in the West and Cleveland in the East......again


robslob - 9/26/2017 at 08:46 PM

Everyone is trying to get their own "Big Three" and compete with Golden State. Problem is, the Warriors resigned no less than 12 players from last year's championship squad and also added two three point aces. Also, truth is, the Warriors don't have a Big Three, they have a Big Five in Steph Curry/Klay Thompson/Kevin Durant/Draymond Green/Andre Igoudala.

Anyone who would not pick Golden State to repeat needs to have their head examined. That said, 2017-2018 is going to be very, very fun to watch with so many three-headed monsters out there now.


jszfunk - 9/27/2017 at 11:20 AM

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Everyone is trying to get their own "Big Three" and compete with Golden State. Problem is, the Warriors resigned no less than 12 players from last year's championship squad and also added two three point aces. Also, truth is, the Warriors don't have a Big Three, they have a Big Five in Steph Curry/Klay Thompson/Kevin Durant/Draymond Green/Andre Igoudala.

Anyone who would not pick Golden State to repeat needs to have their head examined. That said, 2017-2018 is going to be very, very fun to watch with so many three-headed monsters out there now.


Agree.

I just kinda chuckle when these teams like Houston and OKC bring these players in to build a big three or whatever. Its a nice thought and its good to compete ,but the West is GS to lose. If these players were thinking more, stay in the East. I still think its Clevelands , but I think you would have better chance in beating them , then going through the gauntlet in the West.

Sounds like Dwayne Wade is heading to Cleveland. I thought he was older than what he is.


Stephen - 9/27/2017 at 04:03 PM

Dwayne Wade, Derrick Rose & IT at the point -- obviously they're going all out to replace Kyrie
yep most teams have overhauled their rosters -- how will Chris Paul & James Harden mesh in Houston -- Dwight Howard w/Kemba Walker & Nicolas Batum in Charlotte -- like Wade, it didn't work out for Dwight in his hometown of Atlanta
what about Embiid, Simmons & Philly's other prize prospects --
really curious to see how Rajon Rondo will impact NOP -- DeMarcus & Davis did well individually when Cousins joined middle of last season -- RR is the ultimate blend-in-er -- they could go off
so could Celts -- we shall see


Stephen - 9/28/2017 at 04:42 PM

MN is another team impossible to handicap -- w/Jimmy Butler in the backcourt, & Wiggins & Karl Anthony Towns up front & good bench players like former long time Bull Taj Gibson, they could become chemists

What about former top pick Jabari Parker -- can he stay healthy long enough to complement the Greek Freak for Mil

but yes, 3-headed monster rosters -- as jszfunk pointed out, George now w/Melo/Westbrook (thanks for the DPurple updates & other music info bro -- man that dude's tshirt misspells Ritchie's name )
...& our three-headed green monster -- lets go C's



[Edited on 9/28/2017 by Stephen]


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