Thread: NFL Thread 2011 - All flags at half mast

DougMacKenzie - 6/2/2011 at 12:02 PM

After being chewed out by a brother here for being in the wrong neighborhood (thanks Mark), and being told it would be wise to emulate the behavior of NFL thread participants (YIKES!!!!), I figured June is a good time to fire this puppy up. We can have a thread even if the season is locked out. What do you think? Saeson or no, and when do you think it might start? After the disaster that was the Cowboy's season last year I'm not so sure a lockout isn't a good thing.










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piacere - 6/2/2011 at 12:32 PM

you're all still a bunch of wandering bedouins....

this is the year!!!

repent and enter into the light !!!!

PATRIOTS !!!!!!!

dang, I sure hope Otie and wott get out in time for the season, if there is one.


DougMacKenzie - 6/2/2011 at 12:33 PM

quote:
you're all still a bunch of wandering bedouins....

this is the year!!!

repent and enter into the light !!!!

PATRIOTS !!!!!!!

dang, I sure hope Otie and wott get out in time for the season, if there is one.


They've been locked out.


piacere - 6/2/2011 at 12:54 PM

well then...we'll just have to visit the pp periodically to enlighten them and talk some football. Always enjoyed those two in the NFL thread. Otie, John, if you're taking a look...fret not, we, or at least I, will drop in now and then to shine the light of glory upon your beleagured franchises.

now, don't you feel better already?

PATRIOTS !!!!!!


Sang - 6/2/2011 at 12:55 PM

You could start a version in the playpen for those in "jail".......it would be like the Packers under Forrest Gregg.....


piacere - 6/2/2011 at 12:57 PM

quote:
You could start a version in the playpen for those in "jail".......it would be like the Packers under Forrest Gregg.....


sang !!

not a bad idea.


Lee - 6/2/2011 at 01:04 PM

Yesterday there was a "secret" meeting in one of the 'burbs outside of Chicago. Roger Goodell and a few prominent owners were there.

They just announced that Demaurice Smith (union head) was also there.

I really think they'll get something done.


DanB - 6/2/2011 at 04:54 PM


Lee - 6/2/2011 at 05:28 PM

Do the Stillers still have a team?


piacere - 6/2/2011 at 05:41 PM

quote:
Do the Stillers still have a team?


who cares?

everybody will be chasing the Patriots.

again.


DougMacKenzie - 6/2/2011 at 09:15 PM

quote:
sang !!

not a bad idea.


I disagree. Sang is the very definition of a bad idea.

COWBOYS!!!!!!


sniff - 6/2/2011 at 10:12 PM

Go Pack Go. That's where the smart money would go.


ScottyVII - 6/2/2011 at 10:52 PM

No Football season means that the revolution will be televised.


piacere - 6/3/2011 at 12:03 PM

quote:
No Football season means that the revolution will be televised.


and, according to Ray Lewis, crime will increase on Sunday's.


DougMacKenzie - 6/3/2011 at 12:43 PM

Well, what else will one have to do on Sunday without football besides rob a liquor store?


Sang - 6/3/2011 at 01:36 PM

Well, there's always......



fensranger - 6/3/2011 at 02:32 PM

call me stupid Sang but i would still rather be watching football or sitting wasted in The Meadowlands watching the Jets. LOL


Brendan - 6/3/2011 at 03:17 PM

quote:
call me stupid Sang but i would still rather be watching football or sitting wasted in The Meadowlands watching the Jets. LOL
OK. Stupid Sang.


Lee - 6/3/2011 at 03:35 PM

I think this whole labor ordeal is a conspiracy to keep down the Detroit Lions.


DanB - 6/3/2011 at 05:24 PM

quote:
Well, there's always......





I'm a champion, EVERYDAY!!!!!!!!!


Lee - 6/3/2011 at 07:35 PM

I like boobs.


piacere - 6/7/2011 at 03:59 PM

Sports Business Journal is reporting that there could be an 8 game season starting in November.


DougMacKenzie - 6/7/2011 at 10:29 PM

8 games is better than nothing. And Plexico is out of prison now. Think there will be any takers?


Sang - 6/8/2011 at 03:34 AM

Well, since Forrest Gregg isn't around anymore, the Steelers, Patriots, Cowgirls and Eagles seem likely.........


PhotoRon286 - 6/8/2011 at 03:53 AM

quote:
You could start a version in the playpen for those in "jail".......it would be like the Packers under Forrest Gregg.....


Vikings under Dennis Green.

Even the coaches got busted.


leafsfan - 6/8/2011 at 08:52 AM

Secret meetings we're supposedly held today between players and owners. I guess they are not so secret anymore.

Get this figured out already Steelers and Browns are sched'd for an appearance in Seattle this year.


piacere - 6/8/2011 at 01:26 PM

quote:
8 games is better than nothing. And Plexico is out of prison now. Think there will be any takers?


the guy can play or at least he could once. If he still can, he'll get some looks. I'm sure Brady/Belichick would keep his ass in line long enough to put some points on the board. That'd be a deadly combination.


IPowrie - 6/8/2011 at 03:38 PM

quote:
I think this whole labor ordeal is a conspiracy to keep down the Detroit Lions.


I second this idea


DougMacKenzie - 6/9/2011 at 12:55 PM

THis conspiracy must've been going on a looooonnnnnggggggg time.


Sang - 6/9/2011 at 02:02 PM

quote:
This conspiracy must've been going on a looooonnnnnggggggg time.




I second this idea.


DougMacKenzie - 6/13/2011 at 10:05 AM

Okay, basketball season is over. Baseball is, well, baseball. Let's get this thing settled and get ready for some FOOTBALL!


DanB - 6/13/2011 at 01:02 PM

A team from Dallas finally won something and it will be awhile before it happens again.


piacere - 6/13/2011 at 04:22 PM

you sillies.

engaging in idle banter yet again...

snap out of it, you snake-charming goat herders...

PATRIOTS !!!!!


DanB - 6/13/2011 at 08:48 PM

quote:
you sillies.

engaging in idle banter yet again...

snap out of it, you snake-charming goat herders...

PATRIOTS !!!!!


the 8 games season for 2011 has been approved by the AARP and the Patriots


Lee - 6/13/2011 at 09:49 PM

quote:
you sillies.

engaging in idle banter yet again...

snap out of it, you snake-charming goat herders...

PATRIOTS !!!!!



Watch the hockeyball game tonight and see another of your teams go down again you speaker of goofy "English".


leafsfan - 6/13/2011 at 10:39 PM

CFL season starts in 3 weeks!!!!


DougMacKenzie - 6/14/2011 at 12:15 PM

How can you not figure out how to sp;it up 9 BILLION dolllars!?


piacere - 6/14/2011 at 12:20 PM

quote:
quote:
you sillies.

engaging in idle banter yet again...

snap out of it, you snake-charming goat herders...

PATRIOTS !!!!!


the 8 games season for 2011 has been approved by the AARP and the Patriots


youngest defense in the league.

all of your collective asses are toast.

PATRIOTS !!!!


piacere - 6/14/2011 at 12:22 PM

quote:
quote:
you sillies.

engaging in idle banter yet again...

snap out of it, you snake-charming goat herders...

PATRIOTS !!!!!



Watch the hockeyball game tonight and see another of your teams go down again you speaker of goofy "English".




what was that?

I said it in the hockey thread...

...Broonz in seven.


piacere - 6/14/2011 at 12:25 PM

quote:
How can you not figure out how to sp;it up 9 BILLION dolllars!?


I don't know...greed has no bounds?


DougMacKenzie - 6/14/2011 at 12:40 PM

Kansas City Chiefs tight end Leonard Pope saved a six-year-old boy from drowning in his Georgia hometown, the Americus Times-Recorder reported Monday.
Pope, who would typically be off training under the supervision of Chiefs' coaches and staff if not for the NFL lockout, was visiting his hometown of Americus in southern Georgia when he reportedly performed the heroic deed.

The 27-year-old tight end was attending a pool party over the weekend when fellow Americus native Anne Moore said her son Bryson began drowning.

"All of a sudden, I saw Bryson going down in the water and I started screaming," said Moore, who knew Pope long before his playing days. "Leonard was inside, and he came out of nowhere and dove into the water without any hesitation, cell phone in his pocket and all. He saved my son's life, and I am so thankful that he was there for me and my child."

Moore told the Times-Recorder the 6-foot-8, 264-pound tight end was the only guest at the party who knew how to swim.

"The fact that he is normally at camp and could have been in Kansas City just proved to me that he was placed here to save my son from drowning, and I thank God that he was here," Moore said. "He truly lived up to his nickname 'Champ' because he was truly a champion for me and my son this past weekend."

Pope was drafted by the Arizona Cardinals out of the University of Georgia in 2006. He was signed by the Chiefs in 2009. Pope had 10 catches for 76 yards and two touchdowns last season for Kansas City.


piacere - 6/14/2011 at 12:46 PM

just read that myself and was going to post about it.

nice job, Champ.


Brendan - 6/14/2011 at 01:01 PM

That's a nice story and all, but it just goes to show that more people need to learn how to swim, ESPECIALLY if you're hosting or attending a pool party. Talk about a recipe for disaster.


fensranger - 6/14/2011 at 01:50 PM

a great story and outcome how do you have a pool party and no one can swim????


DougMacKenzie - 6/14/2011 at 02:19 PM

C'mon, cut these folk some slack. This is Georgia we're talking about.


Bhawk - 6/14/2011 at 03:17 PM

quote:
That's a nice story and all, but it just goes to show that more people need to learn how to swim, ESPECIALLY if you're hosting or attending a pool party. Talk about a recipe for disaster.


I remember when not knowing how to swim killed Chiefs RB Joe Delaney.


DougMacKenzie - 6/16/2011 at 11:05 AM

Hopefully somone is going to step in and save this season.


piacere - 6/16/2011 at 12:18 PM

I hope so.

The Boston team with the longest stretch without a championship?

The Patriots.

That will change. Soon.

Nice being a Boston fan these days.


Sang - 6/16/2011 at 02:22 PM

I keep waiting for Dug to finish off the NBA thread........


Lee - 6/16/2011 at 04:18 PM

quote:
I hope so.

The Boston team with the longest stretch without a championship?

The Patriots.

That will change. Soon.

Nice being a Boston fan these days.



Hey, every hockey team should win a championship every 40 years.


piacere - 6/16/2011 at 04:45 PM

quote:
quote:
I hope so.

The Boston team with the longest stretch without a championship?

The Patriots.

That will change. Soon.

Nice being a Boston fan these days.



Hey, every hockey team should win a championship every 40 years.


so should NFL teams...but I digress.


Sang - 6/16/2011 at 07:58 PM





oops..................


piacere - 6/17/2011 at 06:57 PM

looks like your dancing nanners are enjoying that post.

bedouins.


BIGV - 6/17/2011 at 09:41 PM

quote:
Hopefully somone is going to step in and save this season.


All the players have to do is sign.

Is the living/money they make so bad?


WharfRat - 6/18/2011 at 02:25 AM

quote:
Let's get this thing settled and get ready for some FOOTBALL


Why do you torture yourself this way?


midnghtrdr69 - 6/18/2011 at 02:45 AM

quote:
Kansas City Chiefs tight end Leonard Pope saved a six-year-old boy from drowning in his Georgia hometown, the Americus Times-Recorder reported Monday.
Pope, who would typically be off training under the supervision of Chiefs' coaches and staff if not for the NFL lockout, was visiting his hometown of Americus in southern Georgia when he reportedly performed the heroic deed.

The 27-year-old tight end was attending a pool party over the weekend when fellow Americus native Anne Moore said her son Bryson began drowning.

"All of a sudden, I saw Bryson going down in the water and I started screaming," said Moore, who knew Pope long before his playing days. "Leonard was inside, and he came out of nowhere and dove into the water without any hesitation, cell phone in his pocket and all. He saved my son's life, and I am so thankful that he was there for me and my child."

Moore told the Times-Recorder the 6-foot-8, 264-pound tight end was the only guest at the party who knew how to swim.

"The fact that he is normally at camp and could have been in Kansas City just proved to me that he was placed here to save my son from drowning, and I thank God that he was here," Moore said. "He truly lived up to his nickname 'Champ' because he was truly a champion for me and my son this past weekend."

Pope was drafted by the Arizona Cardinals out of the University of Georgia in 2006. He was signed by the Chiefs in 2009. Pope had 10 catches for 76 yards and two touchdowns last season for Kansas City.




That was a very nice ending to what could've been a bad summer party. Way to go Mr. Pope. And if the NFL can't get over their insatible greed, at least Mr. Pope can be a lifeguard or a swimming coach.


DougMacKenzie - 6/20/2011 at 12:29 PM

It's awful quiet out there.


DanB - 6/20/2011 at 12:42 PM

quote:
It's awful quiet out there.


just like the city of Dallas in Dec. and Jan.


piacere - 6/20/2011 at 02:20 PM

quote:
It's awful quiet out there.


I'm just waiting for some US Senator to introduce a bill mandating the season start on time. That's what we need to get this rolling...an act of Congress.

Hopefully, we'll have football by 2014.


Sang - 6/20/2011 at 02:31 PM

Well, there's always the Canadian League, the indoor league or the Lingerie League...... I'm leaning towards the Lingerie League..............




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Chain - 6/20/2011 at 02:43 PM

Who can pin the tail on the real titties in the above photo? The first five members of this site to do so will be entered into the sweepstakes for free seasons tickets and box seats at a venue of your choice.


Sang - 6/20/2011 at 04:35 PM

Who cares?


Chain - 6/20/2011 at 04:41 PM

Nothing like the real thing, Sang.....Silicone or saline is not where it's at.


Sang - 6/20/2011 at 05:10 PM

But it's just a game..................


Chain - 6/20/2011 at 05:44 PM

quote:
But it's just a game..................


True....


fensranger - 6/20/2011 at 08:25 PM

as a season ticket holder that gets robbed into buying 2 preseason games each year, i am hoping strike runs long enough to shorten preseason to 2 games so i can save the dumbest 600 ever spent by a human being!!!! i bought a PSL but the preseason nonsense is retarded and an additional cost of going to see football.


WharfRat - 6/21/2011 at 12:05 PM

Dan, Al and I have pity on your sorry @ssed franchises.




Well ok, no we dont.

Hope this helps


DougMacKenzie - 6/21/2011 at 12:50 PM

Absolutely revolting.


piacere - 6/21/2011 at 01:23 PM

yo ratboy, that post has been reported to the admins. Have fun in the playpen if you aren't banned completely.

I'm sure they'll see the transgression of your ways.

Sang? His appreciation for the Alba/Vonn duo is worthy of some slack and his blasphemy will go unreported.

as for the rest of you still wandering in the darkness of doom there is hope in the light of the beloved Patriots....


WharfRat - 6/21/2011 at 08:02 PM

quote:
Absolutely beautiful.


Aint it?


DougMacKenzie - 6/22/2011 at 12:38 PM

At least they're talking, looks like maybe both sides are starting to get serious about wanting to settle this. Let's get this done and get ready for some football!


Bhawk - 6/22/2011 at 01:55 PM

Last week the Chiefs players had a "secret" 3-day minicamp on their own. I had a feeling that it might be at my old high school (a former Chief is the head football coach), sure enough, on the third day the local media tweeted some pics and there they were.

Apparently they did it up with classroom work, catered food, morning and afternoon workouts. Matt Cassel paid for 90% of it and even flew in the rookies so they could be a part of it.

Come to find out, there was a 48 hour period last month where coaches and players could talk to each other, and the whole private mini-camp idea came from Todd Haley, who even gave Cassel some playbooks.

With the Chiefs brutal schedule we're probably looking at 6-10 at best, but that was pretty cool last week.


WharfRat - 6/22/2011 at 03:10 PM

quote:
With the Chiefs brutal schedule we're probably looking at 6-10 at best,


KC is playing the STEELERS 10 times this season?


DanB - 6/22/2011 at 03:20 PM

quote:
quote:
With the Chiefs brutal schedule we're probably looking at 6-10 at best,


KC is playing the STEELERS 10 times this season?


yes and the Jest, Cowgirls, Gayders and Patsy


piacere - 6/22/2011 at 03:25 PM

we've got a tough schedule too.

I'm figurin' 13 and 3, playoffs, Super Bowl win.

deal with it.


Bhawk - 6/22/2011 at 03:42 PM

Sigh.


DanB - 6/22/2011 at 03:56 PM

quote:
Sigh.


and the season hasn't even started


piacere - 6/22/2011 at 03:57 PM

quote:
Sigh.


LOL.

and it's only June.


Bhawk - 6/22/2011 at 04:14 PM

What season? Apparently there's only two teams in the entire league.


DanB - 6/22/2011 at 04:45 PM

quote:
What season? Apparently there's only two teams in the entire league.


and only one that matters


Sang - 6/22/2011 at 05:09 PM




Bear down, Chicago Bears, make every play clear the way to victory;
Bear down, Chicago Bears, put up a fight with a might so fearlessly.
We'll never forget the way you thrilled the nation with your T-formation.
Bear down, Chicago Bears, and let them know why you're wearing the crown.
You're the pride and joy of Illinois, Chicago Bears, bear down.


WharfRat - 6/23/2011 at 03:41 AM

quote:



Bear down, Chicago Bears, make every play clear the way to victory;
Bear down, Chicago Bears, put up a fight with a might so fearlessly.
We'll never forget the way you thrilled the nation with your T-formation.
Bear down, Chicago Bears, and let them know why you're wearing the crown.
You're the pride and joy of Illinois, Chicago Bears, bear down.




Did your QB quit yet?


DougMacKenzie - 6/23/2011 at 11:48 AM

Has yours been arrested yet?


WharfRat - 6/23/2011 at 12:35 PM

Did yours..well... you know..


piacere - 6/23/2011 at 12:39 PM

I try to bring some straight-forward, rational, common-sense thinking into this thread by informing you all of the error of your ways and all I see are these lunatic rants and idle banter.....

camel jockeys, I implore you, seek redemption in the beloved Patriots !!!!!


DougMacKenzie - 6/24/2011 at 12:59 PM

I'm trying to show restraint and compassion for you psychos and sheep molestors this year, but I feel in all fairness I should point out that the Rangers made it to the World Series, the Mavs won the NBA title, and it is only fitting that the 'Pokes reclaim their rightful crown atop the NFL. The rest of the league knows this; that is why none of those quaking franchises, comprised of well known losers and long time wannabes want anything to do with this season. It's all a conspiracy to keep the Cowboys down.

COWBOYS!!!!!!


Lee - 6/24/2011 at 01:14 PM

Now Dug -

This Rangers team you speak of: would this be the same team you kept predicting would fall on their faces all last season?


DougMacKenzie - 6/24/2011 at 01:16 PM

quote:
Now Dug -

This Rangers team you speak of: would this be the same team you kept predicting would fall on their faces all last season?


Maybe.


Lee - 6/24/2011 at 01:22 PM

Besides, we all know this is our year to:























DougMacKenzie - 6/24/2011 at 01:43 PM

"Restore the roar?"

BWHHHHAAAAAAHHHHHAAAAAA!!!!!!!


BIGV - 6/24/2011 at 04:28 PM

quote:
"Restore the roar?"

BWHHHHAAAAAAHHHHHAAAAAA!!!!!!!


Don't the Lions and the Cowgirls play every Thanksgiving?


WharfRat - 6/25/2011 at 12:47 AM

quote:
I'm trying to show restraint and compassion for you psychos and sheep molestors this year, but I feel in all fairness I should point out that the Rangers made it to the World Series, the Mavs won the NBA title, and it is only fitting that the 'Pokes reclaim their rightful crown atop the NFL. The rest of the league knows this; that is why none of those quaking franchises, comprised of well known losers and long time wannabes want anything to do with this season. It's all a conspiracy to keep the Cowboys down.

COWBOYS!!!!!!


Geez, cowpoke.. That must be one hell of a heathave you have there this summer... Its frying your brain

Hope this helps!


DougMacKenzie - 6/26/2011 at 10:43 AM

I'm just as focused and lucid as I've ever been..........

COWBOYS!!!!!!


fensranger - 6/27/2011 at 02:38 PM

cowboys/jets on september 11th ??????????


Sang - 6/27/2011 at 03:22 PM

quote:
I'm just as focused and lucid as I've ever been..........

COWBOYS!!!!!!



Not exactly a ringing endorsement.......



GO BEARS!


Brendan - 6/27/2011 at 04:17 PM

quote:
cowboys/jets on september 11th ??????????
Uggh. Sounds dreadful.


DanB - 6/27/2011 at 05:41 PM

quote:
cowboys/jets on september 11th ??????????


part of the new fall comedy series on NBC


fensranger - 6/27/2011 at 07:18 PM

it may sound dreadful but the alternative is no football


WharfRat - 6/27/2011 at 11:44 PM

Well then...


GO J E T S JETSJETSJETS


DougMacKenzie - 6/29/2011 at 10:58 AM

The Jests remind me of the Co......nevermind.


piacere - 6/29/2011 at 03:33 PM

again with the idle banter?

geeze...

listen, the "light at the end of the tunnel" is the glory of the Patriots. Either get out of the way or jump the train to enlightenment.

you've been warned.


piacere - 6/30/2011 at 06:14 PM

almost page deux.

slackers.

enjoy the 4th, this ol' cowboy has a 4 day weekend.

sayonara, amigos.


WharfRat - 6/30/2011 at 09:01 PM

Well judging from your previous post, it sounds like you NEED a vacation.


michaelsio - 6/30/2011 at 09:39 PM

quote:
I'm just as focused and lucid as I've ever been..........

COWBOYS!!!!!!


We know.



E-A-G-L-E-S!!!


piacere - 7/1/2011 at 12:18 PM

quote:
Well judging from your previous post, it sounds like you NEED a vacation.


no 4 day weekend.

work's a drag.

like an evil necessity...


DougMacKenzie - 7/1/2011 at 01:44 PM

Crybaby.


piacere - 7/1/2011 at 01:51 PM

quote:
Crybaby.


I'm tellin' 4umad.

so there.


DougMacKenzie - 7/1/2011 at 01:53 PM

Double Crybaby


DougMacKenzie - 7/1/2011 at 01:55 PM

quote:
quote:
Crybaby.


I'm tellin' 4umad.

so there.


Everybody already knows.


DanB - 7/1/2011 at 02:12 PM

the benefit to the lockout: the Patsies and Cowgirls are still in contention for a Super Bowl

but when the lockout ends and the season begins all hope is lost for your sorry ass teams


DanB - 7/1/2011 at 02:13 PM


piacere - 7/1/2011 at 02:34 PM

quote:
quote:
quote:
Crybaby.


I'm tellin' 4umad.

so there.


Everybody already knows.


well now they do.

nice thread title. 'til February, when I know you'll change it to "well waddaya know, the old man was right".

yo Dan, too early to be hammered. go back to bed.


Sang - 7/2/2011 at 04:03 AM

You obviously don't know DanB.....................


DougMacKenzie - 7/3/2011 at 12:23 PM

Obviously.


WharfRat - 7/3/2011 at 12:49 PM

quote:



Me likey


Sang - 7/3/2011 at 04:24 PM

Amazing what they can do with zirconium these days....


WharfRat - 7/3/2011 at 09:54 PM

quote:
Amazing what they can do with Lombardi Trophys these days....


Aint it?


DanB - 7/4/2011 at 01:31 AM

quote:
quote:
Amazing what they can do with Lombardi Trophys these days....


Aint it?


not hard to keep 'em out Chicago though


IPowrie - 7/4/2011 at 01:33 AM

quote:
Besides, we all know this is our year to:

























I second this and it will happen


DougMacKenzie - 7/4/2011 at 11:45 AM

That's still the funniest thing I've seen so far this year.

Was at a party yesterday and got to hang out with Jermichael Finley and his wife. We're good friends with her parents. It was very entertaining listening to them talk about life in the NFL, especially from their young perspective. I thought about waiting until he wasn't looking and then blind siding him into the pool and shouting "Now what?" before I ran off to hide in a closet. My daughter talked me out of it. Effin' Packers.

COWBOYS!!!!!!


DanB - 7/4/2011 at 01:14 PM

quote:
That's still the funniest thing I've seen so far this year.

Was at a party yesterday and got to hang out with Jermichael Finley and his wife. We're good friends with her parents. It was very entertaining listening to them talk about life in the NFL, especially from their young perspective. I thought about waiting until he wasn't looking and then blind siding him into the pool and shouting "Now what?" before I ran off to hide in a closet. My daughter talked me out of it. Effin' Packers.

COWBOYS!!!!!!


Just like a Cowboy afraid to put the shoulder to someone. I'd put the James Harrison on his ass

http://www.bing.com/videos/watch/video/james-harrison-slams-browns-fan/2fdb c45f452166a62d762fdbc45f452166a62d76-1030678250440?cpkey=5b4c7194a3f51cf6bf 955b4c7194a3f51cf6bf95-995737863654|james%20harrison|||


DougMacKenzie - 7/5/2011 at 02:07 PM

LOL!


piacere - 7/7/2011 at 12:22 PM

too funny.

all these political threads that you bedouins hide behind, discussing matters which in the end, we have no control over and our fate rests in the pockets of elected windbags.

however, there is one thing you do have the power to change and that is the enlightenment and redemption you can find in the beloved Patriots.

PATRIOTS !!!!!!


Sang - 7/7/2011 at 01:36 PM

"Beloved" seems out of place in that sentence............I think you meant something else...


WharfRat - 7/8/2011 at 01:59 AM

quote:
"Beloved" seems out of place in that sentence............I think you meant something else...


Methinks putrid is a better fit.


piacere - 7/8/2011 at 01:03 PM

do not think all of these blasphementations will go unnoticed by the football gods, O wandering camel herders.

dang man, I hope they get this situation resolved. Gonna be a long winter around here without football...


Sang - 7/8/2011 at 01:21 PM

Yes, it will be like living in Detroit.......


piacere - 7/8/2011 at 01:35 PM

...or Dallas.


DougMacKenzie - 7/8/2011 at 02:24 PM

Not quite camel humper. The light reflecting off our five Lombardi trophies still shines with at least the mimories of glory. That light now leads the way to a new era of power and might. Hide in the hiolls and pray the lockout continues forever so you don't have to face the destruction that clearly awaits you at the hands of a superior franchise. You are noveau rich; we are old school NFL. Sorry you had to find out this way.


Sang - 7/8/2011 at 03:10 PM

All that heat in Texas must be getting to Dug........ and his spellchecker.............



Go BEARS!


DanB - 7/8/2011 at 03:44 PM

me thinks Dug needs to revisit the sober thread


piacere - 7/8/2011 at 03:57 PM

quote:
me thinks Dug needs to revisit the sober thread


ummmmm...................nevermind.


DanB - 7/8/2011 at 04:14 PM

quote:
quote:
me thinks Dug needs to revisit the sober thread


ummmmm...................nevermind.


Do Patriot season tickets come with a AARP membership?


Sang - 7/10/2011 at 12:52 AM

DECATUR, GA. (AP)
Pittsburgh Steelers wide receiver Hines Ward was arrested early Saturday outside Atlanta on a drunken driving charge, sheriff's officials said.

The former Super Bowl MVP and reigning ''Dancing With the Stars'' champ was booked into the DeKalb County jail at 3:41 a.m. and charged with driving under the influence. A jail official said he was released on $1,300 bond, though the sheriff's office website said his bond was set at $1,000. The discrepancy couldn't be immediately resolved Saturday.


WharfRat - 7/10/2011 at 11:31 PM

quote:
DECATUR, GA. (AP)
Pittsburgh Steelers wide receiver Hines Ward was arrested early Saturday outside Atlanta on a drunken driving charge, sheriff's officials said.

The former Super Bowl MVP and reigning ''Dancing With the Stars'' champ was booked into the DeKalb County jail at 3:41 a.m. and charged with driving under the influence. A jail official said he was released on $1,300 bond, though the sheriff's office website said his bond was set at $1,000. The discrepancy couldn't be immediately resolved Saturday.


Umm...

Ummm.

Woops?


spacemonkey - 7/10/2011 at 11:37 PM

quote:
DECATUR, GA. (AP)
Pittsburgh Steelers wide receiver Hines Ward was arrested early Saturday outside Atlanta on a drunken driving charge, sheriff's officials said.

The former Super Bowl MVP and reigning ''Dancing With the Stars'' champ was booked into the DeKalb County jail at 3:41 a.m. and charged with driving under the influence. A jail official said he was released on $1,300 bond, though the sheriff's office website said his bond was set at $1,000. The discrepancy couldn't be immediately resolved Saturday.


He should have all winter to sober up.

The only pro football this fall/winter will be "college" football.

Go Hokies!


WharfRat - 7/10/2011 at 11:39 PM

Looks like Hines' lawyer is contesting the charge.
I am assuming he took a breathalizer, that should cover that.
He is usually pretty chatty on Facebook... Obviously not a peep today


DanB - 7/11/2011 at 12:03 AM

Hines was driving me around. Who do ya'll think was drunk?


piacere - 7/11/2011 at 02:19 PM

quote:
Hines was driving me around. Who do ya'll think was drunk?


a couple of Big Ben groupies in the back seat?


Lee - 7/11/2011 at 02:22 PM

quote:
Yes, it will be like living in Detroit.......









DougMacKenzie - 7/11/2011 at 04:19 PM

New Squeeler's slogan:

KEEP THE CREEPS!


piacere - 7/11/2011 at 04:20 PM

the lawyers meet this week beginning today.

owners/players meet this week beginning tomorrow.

court appointed mediator Arthur Boylan is on vacation this week.

ya gotta laugh...


piacere - 7/12/2011 at 02:23 PM

3-time Super Bowl winner Mike Vrabel retires. Thanks Mike, ya did good, ya did real good.



Pacman Jones gets arrested again.

Gettin' close to crunch time. GET IT DONE...


Bhawk - 7/12/2011 at 02:33 PM

quote:
Gettin' close to crunch time. GET IT DONE...



Some analyst on the sports talk radio yesterday was asked about the "hard deadline" and he said that "we could be looking at losing one or two preseason games."

This is a bad thing?


piacere - 7/12/2011 at 06:30 PM

quote:
quote:
Gettin' close to crunch time. GET IT DONE...



Some analyst on the sports talk radio yesterday was asked about the "hard deadline" and he said that "we could be looking at losing one or two preseason games."

This is a bad thing?


for the owners maybe, some lost revenue.

but not for the players or fans, that's for sure...as long as the players are in football shape, it should be two games anyway.


DanB - 7/13/2011 at 03:07 AM



Plowboys


IPowrie - 7/13/2011 at 04:04 AM

quote:
Not quite camel humper. The light reflecting off our five Lombardi trophies still shines with at least the mimories of glory. That light now leads the way to a new era of power and might. Hide in the hiolls and pray the lockout continues forever so you don't have to face the destruction that clearly awaits you at the hands of a superior franchise. You are noveau rich; we are old school NFL. Sorry you had to find out this way.


How are you superior your front office got ripped off by the Lions in the Roy Williams trade oh and thanks for that pick


DougMacKenzie - 7/13/2011 at 12:09 PM

Let's compare trophy cases. Oh, wait........


WharfRat - 7/13/2011 at 12:23 PM

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/6764826/james-harrison-pittsburgh-steeler s-blasts-roger-goodell-magazine-interview

Looks like my boy is getting a little testy


WharfRat - 7/13/2011 at 12:25 PM

quote:
Let's compare trophy cases. Oh, wait........


Please, Dug.. Lets compare



Aint they beautiful?


WharfRat - 7/13/2011 at 12:25 PM

Hope that helps!


DougMacKenzie - 7/13/2011 at 12:27 PM

Yes, they are. We intend to even it up this year. I think we can also be competitive comparing arrest records about now.


WharfRat - 7/13/2011 at 12:30 PM

quote:
Yes, they are. We intend to even it up this year.



Wow.

Thats one HELL of a heatwave you Texans are dealing with this summer


piacere - 7/13/2011 at 01:14 PM

Chuck man

saw some recent pix of you over in AG...dang bro, you lost a LOT of weight.

good job brother, real good job, you're lookin' good.


Sang - 7/13/2011 at 02:29 PM

Richard Dent really wanted the Bears to play in the Hall of Fame game, but it's looking like that's not going to happen.......


IPowrie - 7/13/2011 at 03:44 PM

quote:
Let's compare trophy cases. Oh, wait........


Lets look at the team that is more primed to make a playoff run this year


piacere - 7/13/2011 at 04:58 PM

quote:
quote:
Let's compare trophy cases. Oh, wait........


Lets look at the team that is more primed to make a playoff run this year


...and of course you're talking about the Patriots.


IPowrie - 7/13/2011 at 06:04 PM

quote:
quote:
quote:
Let's compare trophy cases. Oh, wait........


Lets look at the team that is more primed to make a playoff run this year


...and of course you're talking about the Patriots.


huh no not really New England and Pittsburgh both wont be making the playoffs and neither will the Cowboys


DanB - 7/13/2011 at 06:08 PM

quote:
quote:
quote:
quote:
Let's compare trophy cases. Oh, wait........


Lets look at the team that is more primed to make a playoff run this year


...and of course you're talking about the Patriots.


huh no not really New England and Pittsburgh both wont be making the playoffs and neither will the Cowboys


don't drink the bong water


piacere - 7/14/2011 at 12:50 PM

it's going to happen and all your asses are toast.

deal with it.


Sang - 7/14/2011 at 01:26 PM






It's not in the cards for the patriots........


Bhawk - 7/14/2011 at 02:10 PM

quote:
quote:
quote:
quote:
Let's compare trophy cases. Oh, wait........


Lets look at the team that is more primed to make a playoff run this year


...and of course you're talking about the Patriots.


huh no not really New England and Pittsburgh both wont be making the playoffs and neither will the Cowboys


Patriots should always make the playoffs given the division they play in.


Bhawk - 7/14/2011 at 02:11 PM

Steelers divisional matchups are always thrilling, especially Steelers-RavenszzzzzzzzZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ


piacere - 7/14/2011 at 02:41 PM

quote:
quote:
quote:
quote:
quote:
Let's compare trophy cases. Oh, wait........


Lets look at the team that is more primed to make a playoff run this year


...and of course you're talking about the Patriots.


huh no not really New England and Pittsburgh both wont be making the playoffs and neither will the Cowboys


Patriots should always make the playoffs given the division they play in.


heh heh...ok. All that does is piss off Jets fans. I'll give you this: if we were out west, we could shut it down 12 games into it and coast home...


Bhawk - 7/14/2011 at 02:44 PM

quote:
quote:
quote:
quote:
quote:
quote:
Let's compare trophy cases. Oh, wait........


Lets look at the team that is more primed to make a playoff run this year


...and of course you're talking about the Patriots.


huh no not really New England and Pittsburgh both wont be making the playoffs and neither will the Cowboys


Patriots should always make the playoffs given the division they play in.


heh heh...ok. All that does is piss off Jets fans. I'll give you this: if we were out west, we could shut it down 12 games into it and coast home...


This goes to show how girly Pats fans are. Try to give them a compliment and they still get defensive.


Bhawk - 7/14/2011 at 02:46 PM

The Chiefs are coming back to New England again this year, maybe we can do the whole league a favor again...




IPowrie - 7/14/2011 at 03:39 PM

quote:
The Chiefs are coming back to New England again this year, maybe we can do the whole league a favor again...






Didnt the league over react after that and make those kind of tackles illegal?


piacere - 7/15/2011 at 01:44 PM

Matt Cassel has a life-size image of that pic hanging in his house somewhere...




piacere - 7/18/2011 at 12:22 PM

I understand how you must feel, what with pending doom and despair right around the corner but page deux?

bedouins. Wandering about aimlessly in the desert, searching for enlightenment when it's nestled in the rolling hills of New England...

PATRIOTS !!!!!


DougMacKenzie - 7/18/2011 at 12:28 PM

I was going to change the title of this thread today, but then I saw the previous post........


piacere - 7/18/2011 at 12:37 PM

quote:
I was going to change the title of this thread today, but then I saw the previous post........


don't just see it, my brother. Live it. Be it. Walk it.

PATRIOTS !!!!!!


DougMacKenzie - 7/18/2011 at 01:13 PM

quote:
quote:
I was going to change the title of this thread today, but then I saw the previous post........


don't just see it, my brother. Live it. Be it. Walk it.

PATRIOTS !!!!!!


Good lord, lay off the camel juice.


WharfRat - 7/19/2011 at 01:25 AM

I see this thread is still full of delusional lunatics!

Looks like the lockout could be over very soon.. hopefully.

They better make it quick, Pittsburgh has a parade in Feburary to prepare for


WharfRat - 7/19/2011 at 01:28 AM

quote:
Chuck man

saw some recent pix of you over in AG...dang bro, you lost a LOT of weight.

good job brother, real good job, you're lookin' good.




Thank you sir

I figure if our O-Line has trouble protecting Ben again this season the Rooneys can give me a call


DougMacKenzie - 7/19/2011 at 12:58 PM

The Squeeler's secret weapon - "RatBoy"!


Sang - 7/19/2011 at 02:10 PM

quote:
The Squeeler's secret weapon - "women who recant their stories"!


WharfRat - 7/20/2011 at 12:03 AM

quote:
The Squeeler's secret weapon - "RatBoy"!





Oh, and eff Sang


DougMacKenzie - 7/20/2011 at 12:55 PM

Let's get this deal done and get on with some football!


DanB - 7/20/2011 at 02:15 PM

quote:
Let's get this deal done and get on with some football!


football in Dallas? ROTFLMAFO


DougMacKenzie - 7/20/2011 at 02:30 PM

Methinks the Bman doth protest tooo much. It's okay to be scared. Who could blame you? As the Squeelers implode, the Cowboys get stronger.


piacere - 7/20/2011 at 03:59 PM

RIP Myra Kraft

a great woman...


fensranger - 7/20/2011 at 07:41 PM

she sounded like a great lady from the obit i read. i completely dislike the Pats but as an owner Kraft is probably the best in the business and i respect the man a great deal. A tough time-his wife was pretty young and even with the best medical care when its your time, its your time.


Bhawk - 7/21/2011 at 07:09 PM

For this thread, an invaluable resource...how does your team score? Chiefs at a respectable 26...but not that many recently.

http://www.signonsandiego.com/nfl/arrests-database/


DanB - 7/21/2011 at 09:03 PM

only 17 by the Steelers w/ 3 for Santonio Holmes and 2 for Plax


jerryphilbob - 7/21/2011 at 11:14 PM

NFL Owners agree to a deal, now its up to the players.

No Hall of Fame game!






[Edited on 7/21/2011 by jerryphilbob]


DanB - 7/21/2011 at 11:20 PM

quote:
NFL Owners agree to a deal, now its up to the players.

No Hall of Fame game!






[Edited on 7/21/2011 by jerryphilbob]


it was only Rams and Bears - FLAG FOOTBALL


piacere - 7/22/2011 at 12:28 PM

quote:
only 17 by the Steelers w/ 3 for Santonio Holmes and 2 for Plax


assuming the number is players arrested/charged, Patriots got 12. Most of them by players who never played all that much.


piacere - 7/22/2011 at 01:06 PM

my guess is the players go for it.

jeez, I hope so...


IPowrie - 7/22/2011 at 02:27 PM

Lions had 7 most by people who had no business being in the NFL


DougMacKenzie - 7/24/2011 at 11:09 AM

Hopefully the players agree to thos deal on Monday and we can get on with some football!


DanB - 7/24/2011 at 01:13 PM

quote:
Hopefully the players agree to thos deal on Monday and we can get on with some football!


keeping fingers crossed


Lee - 7/24/2011 at 02:51 PM

I just read in the newspaper that Ben Rothlisberger got married last night.

Bomb sniffing dogs were there and police had to shut down the streets around the building.

Yikes!


Brendan - 7/24/2011 at 04:46 PM

Dhani Jones

quote:
Charged with failure to obey a lawful command -- a misdemeanor -- after he allegedly refused to stop dancing outside a South Beach club.
How dare he??? Ri-dic-ulous. Unlawful dancing...


DougMacKenzie - 7/25/2011 at 10:51 AM

Looks like we may have a deal! And just in time. Are you ready for some football!


piacere - 7/25/2011 at 12:18 PM

I am.

This is the best thread on the board and it would've been a drag if there was no season.


Sang - 7/25/2011 at 12:28 PM

If nothing else we have Lee and DanB dressed in drag..............


Lee - 7/25/2011 at 12:44 PM

Teams can start signing their own free agents today amd negotiate with others. Tomorrow they can sign other free agents. Some teams start camp on Thursday.


piacere - 7/25/2011 at 01:04 PM

quote:
If nothing else we have Lee and DanB dressed in drag..............


an image I could've done without...

just read on yahoo sports (yeah, I'm slackin' at work today...well, most days) that the Eagles are lookin' at Favre as a backup for Vick.

please God, tell me it ain't so....


Bhawk - 7/25/2011 at 02:17 PM

This free agent period is gonna be nuts.

LOVE the new rule that teams have to spend right up to their cap. A few teams have a ton of money to spend. IMO, it will be a true test of the abilities of general managers and player personnel people...from the RFA and UFAs on your team that you re-sign to the UFAs that you sign from other teams...it's gonna be crazy.


nypeachhead - 7/25/2011 at 02:46 PM

From espn Adam Sheftler:

AdamSchefterAdam Schefter
Ten teams would report Weds, 10 Thurs, 10 Fri, with Jets and Texans reporting on Sunday. New league year would start Aug. 2 at 4 pm.

1 minute ago


AdamSchefterAdam Schefter

Teams can begin signing UFAs tomorrow at noon. Those contracts would not take effect until Aug 2.

2 minutes ago

AdamSchefterAdam Schefter

Teams can begin talking trades this afternoon. Any trade made would not become official until Saturday.

3 minutes ago

AdamSchefterAdam Schefter

Teams can sign their free agents this afternoon. Teams can begin talking to UFAs this afternoon. Teams can sign UFAs tomorrow at noon.

4 minutes ago


»AdamSchefterAdam Schefter


Filed to ESPN: Latest timeline for getting NFL back in business - subject to approval by the NFLPA. Here are the details...


Sang - 7/25/2011 at 04:17 PM

10 minutes ago.....

The Lions and Chiefs were mathematically eliminated.......


Bhawk - 7/25/2011 at 04:25 PM

quote:
10 minutes ago.....

The Lions and Chiefs were mathematically eliminated.......


This coming from a Bears fan?

Hey man, the next few days will require a GM with brains. On this alone, Jerry Angelo has been automatically disqualified.

How'd your QB do on the search for his ball sack over the summer?


Sang - 7/25/2011 at 04:29 PM

Well, he just called off his wedding.............


I'd rather he was searching for receivers............


piacere - 7/25/2011 at 04:35 PM

quote:
quote:
10 minutes ago.....

The Lions and Chiefs were mathematically eliminated.......


This coming from a Bears fan?

Hey man, the next few days will require a GM with brains. On this alone, Jerry Angelo has been automatically disqualified.

How'd your QB do on the search for his ball sack over the summer?


you've got Scott Pioli, the best in the business.

you're welcome.


Lee - 7/25/2011 at 05:20 PM


Bhawk - 7/25/2011 at 05:21 PM

quote:
quote:
quote:
10 minutes ago.....

The Lions and Chiefs were mathematically eliminated.......


This coming from a Bears fan?

Hey man, the next few days will require a GM with brains. On this alone, Jerry Angelo has been automatically disqualified.

How'd your QB do on the search for his ball sack over the summer?


you've got Scott Pioli, the best in the business.

you're welcome.


Well, we'll see here pretty soon if that truly is the case.


Bhawk - 7/25/2011 at 05:23 PM

This could really change the way the NFL does things. Hell, the free agency period being so short is a hell of an idea. The coverage of it would rival the draft.


DanB - 7/25/2011 at 05:27 PM

FEAR & PAIN is coming soon to your franchise!!!!!!!!!



[Edited on 7/25/2011 by DanB]


Lee - 7/25/2011 at 05:31 PM

quote:
quote:
10 minutes ago.....

The Lions and Chiefs were mathematically eliminated.......


This coming from a Bears fan?

Hey man, the next few days will require a GM with brains. On this alone, Jerry Angelo has been automatically disqualified.

How'd your QB do on the search for his ball sack over the summer?



Heard on Mike & Mike this morning that the Broncos are shopping Kyle Orton. Mebbe the Bears would be interested in this feller.


Brendan - 7/25/2011 at 06:04 PM

quote:
How'd your QB do on the search for his ball sack over the summer?


Oh Snap!!


Bhawk - 7/25/2011 at 07:33 PM

Alright, the lockout is over!


fensranger - 7/25/2011 at 08:40 PM

i am so happy its football time again!!!! Free agency should be awesome and then we roll right into preseason. I read that 25% of the players are unrestricted free agents this year. Have no idea how cap is structured but know it will be crazy!!!


IPowrie - 7/26/2011 at 02:50 AM

Yeah glad lockout is over now hoping the Lions dont go on a spending spree let teams like the Cowboys and Redskins do that


WharfRat - 7/26/2011 at 09:25 AM

HERE WE GO STEELERS HERE WE GO


WharfRat - 7/26/2011 at 09:28 AM

quote:
FEAR & PAIN is coming soon to your franchise!!!!!!!!!



[Edited on 7/25/2011 by DanB]


DOOM AWAITS YOU ALL


piacere - 7/26/2011 at 01:00 PM

Cowboys and Steelers 14 and 10 mil over the cap.

have fun with that, kids.


Bhawk - 7/26/2011 at 01:37 PM

Teams most under salary cap, in millions...

Bucs $56.6
Seahawks $41.4
Bills $36.8
Bengals $34.8
Bears $34.6

They gotta spend 99% of it by new rule. Here we go!


Bhawk - 7/26/2011 at 03:04 PM

Chiefs are just hammering the emails about season tickets. Can get a season ticket for the upper environs of Arrowhead for $250. Hmmmm.


nypeachhead - 7/26/2011 at 03:31 PM

quote:
Chiefs are just hammering the emails about season tickets. Can get a season ticket for the upper environs of Arrowhead for $250. Hmmmm.


for the whole season????? Damn, thats what it cost me for a parking pass for the NYG season.LOL!


Bhawk - 7/26/2011 at 03:50 PM

quote:
quote:
Chiefs are just hammering the emails about season tickets. Can get a season ticket for the upper environs of Arrowhead for $250. Hmmmm.


for the whole season????? Damn, thats what it cost me for a parking pass for the NYG season.LOL!


Yup. Here's the Chiefs available season ticket pricing structure for 2011, per the emails they keep sending me (Single game price in parentheses):

Club Level Field - $2,200 ($230)
Club Level End Zone - $1,950 ($205)
Field Level Field - $840 ($94)
Field Level End Zone - $760 ($86)
Upper Level Select - $780 ($83)
Upper Level Reserve - $590 ($64)
Upper Level End Zone - $540 ($59)
Upper Level View - $390 ($44)
Upper Level Up There - $250 ($30)

Parking at Arrowhead is $20 a game, $200 for the season (including pre-season).


Lee - 7/26/2011 at 06:46 PM

quote:
Cowboys and Steelers 14 and 10 mil over the cap.

have fun with that, kids.



Cowprods are releasing Roy Williams and Marion Barber when they are allowed to create cap space.


Brendan - 7/26/2011 at 07:35 PM

This free agency is going to be wild !


DougMacKenzie - 7/27/2011 at 11:36 AM

The Cowboys have offensive line issues, defensive line issues, safety issues, and salary cap issues, not to mention the same old GM issues. Not he best way to start the season!


WharfRat - 7/27/2011 at 11:59 AM

Looks like my Steelers are losing 2 starting Offensive linemen ( Essez, Colon) to clear cap space


RUN FOR YOUR LIFE BEN!


Lee - 7/27/2011 at 12:08 PM

Well given the problems of other teams, I think it is obvious that the DETROIT LIONS are the team to beat!


piacere - 7/27/2011 at 12:15 PM

with working two jobs, grandkids and volunteering, not to mention time with the gf, I have no idea what the heck is going on.

but then again, that should come as no surprise to anyone here...


Lee - 7/27/2011 at 01:09 PM

quote:
with working two jobs, grandkids and volunteering, not to mention time with the gf, I have no idea what the heck is going on.

but then again, that should come as no surprise to anyone here...



Just saw on the NFL Network that the Patriots quit.


nypeachhead - 7/27/2011 at 02:06 PM

Just read that the Skins signed Barry Cofield for 6 yrs 33.5 million with 14 guaranteed. Man if I was a free agent that would be the team to go to. All they do is spend, doesnt get them anywhere but holy cow. The Giants never would have gave him that kind of money. Gotta love Snider.

Giants also cut 2 linemen, Ohara and Seubert. Hope there is a plan somehwere for those replacements. Crazy!

Hasselbeck to the Titans
Daunte Stallworth to SKins
McNabb almost to MN

And its only just started


Bhawk - 7/27/2011 at 02:22 PM

The Seahawks may soon be in the position wherein Tavaris Jackson and Matt Leinart are competing for the starting job.


piacere - 7/27/2011 at 03:48 PM

teams cutting and signing players all over the place.


spacemonkey - 7/27/2011 at 03:58 PM

quote:
Just read that the Skins signed Barry Cofield for 6 yrs 33.5 million with 14 guaranteed. Man if I was a free agent that would be the team to go to. All they do is spend, doesnt get them anywhere but holy cow. The Giants never would have gave him that kind of money. Gotta love Snider.

Giants also cut 2 linemen, Ohara and Seubert. Hope there is a plan somehwere for those replacements. Crazy!

Hasselbeck to the Titans
Daunte Stallworth to SKins
McNabb almost to MN

And its only just started


When those guys were healthy the Giants could run the ball and were tough to beat.
Crazy world of new football.

I have heard that one of the sticking points of the negotiations was that the players wanted to do something for the guys that are too beat up to work but didn't have enough years of service for a pension. The owners refused to do anything. But this was just before the lockout was lifted so maybe that changed.




nypeachhead - 7/27/2011 at 05:58 PM

Deangelo Williams resigned with Carolina for 5 yrs 43 million 21 guaranteed. WOW

If this is the market for rb's, Bradshaw will be bolting to Miami

[Edited on 7/27/2011 by nypeachhead]


Bhawk - 7/27/2011 at 06:11 PM

quote:
with me getting out of bed in the morning, I have no idea what the heck is going on. Hell, look at me. I root for the Patriots.

but then again, that should come as no surprise to anyone here...


Bhawk - 7/27/2011 at 06:11 PM


piacere - 7/27/2011 at 06:17 PM

quote:
quote:
with me getting out of bed in the morning, I have no idea what the heck is going on. Hell, look at me. I root for the Patriots.

but then again, that should come as no surprise to anyone here...



don't laugh...it's all true...


Lee - 7/27/2011 at 07:43 PM

Vikings got McNabb. Good move on their part. Looks like Orton will end up in Miami.

Boy, this is interesting stuff!


fensranger - 7/27/2011 at 07:55 PM

i think there are going to be a whole lot of turnovers the first half of this season. New coaches, new players everywhere, receivers who have no idea who their QBs are. Should be fun. That being said, teams like Pats, Steelers, GB will have very little change at skill positions and will be really strong to take advantage of this edge early on. It takes a while for guys to adjust and teams that are all over the place with no pre camps and no 2 and days will be sturggling to catch up.


Lee - 7/27/2011 at 08:02 PM

quote:
i think there are going to be a whole lot of turnovers the first half of this season. New coaches, new players everywhere, receivers who have no idea who their QBs are. Should be fun. That being said, teams like Pats, Steelers, GB will have very little change at skill positions and will be really strong to take advantage of this edge early on. It takes a while for guys to adjust and teams that are all over the place with no pre camps and no 2 and days will be sturggling to catch up.



We scheduled our fantasy football draft. This is gonna be interesting to say the least. It's a keeper league (you get to keep two guys from last year's roster) but who knew this was going to happen. It changes things quite a bit. I have two of the best WRs but you don't know how the rest of their teams will be.

Should be fun tho!


IPowrie - 7/27/2011 at 08:11 PM

quote:
Well given the problems of other teams, I think it is obvious that the DETROIT LIONS are the team to beat!


Thats the truth, looks like they are going to wait and see who's available after the rush to add to the team.


WharfRat - 7/27/2011 at 08:11 PM

Looks like Plax to the Giants or...... Pittsburgh

Please please PLEASE Rooney.. JUST SAY NO!

Effin assclown headcase


Lee - 7/27/2011 at 08:23 PM

quote:
Looks like Plax to the Giants or...... Pittsburgh

Please please PLEASE Rooney.. JUST SAY NO!

Effin assclown headcase



I'd take a flyer on him. They can always cut him.


Besides, he'll fit right in with the "wholesome" environment there.


fensranger - 7/27/2011 at 08:40 PM

maybe Tiki will return to the Giants!!! LOL


BIGV - 7/27/2011 at 10:18 PM

As a Chargers fan, scratching my head and slowly repeating to myself "Wtf...wtf...wtf"?...has become commonplace. So many "ifs".... Bob Saunders?....In the last three seasons with the Colts he's played in what? 10 games?...and 40 Million to S Eric Weddle?... I remember this guy getting run over by a RB in what could have been the most important game of his career... 40 Million?

As a Saints fan, I love the re-signing of WR Lance Moore, (The poor man's Wes Welker) one of Brees' favorite targets. Now, let's resign G Carl Nicks & T Jermon Bushrod.

The Saints will be there, the Chargers...not so sure.

Screw the Cowboys. Screw Jerry Jones. Tony Romo is a bum..


BIGV - 7/27/2011 at 10:20 PM

quote:
Looks like Plax to the Giants or...... Pittsburgh


I think this clown has Oakland Raiders written all over him. A perfect fit, they truly deserve one another.



midnghtrdr69 - 7/27/2011 at 10:25 PM

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Looks like Plax to the Giants or...... Pittsburgh


I think this clown has Oakland Raiders written all over him. A perfect fit, they truly deserve one another.




He sure fits the required background highlights that AL Davis loves to sign


DougMacKenzie - 7/27/2011 at 10:49 PM

quote:
The Saints will be there, the Chargers...not so sure.

Screw the Cowboys. Screw Jerry Jones. Tony Romo is a bum..



A Saints fan and a Bolts fan? Wow, talk about long suffering. No wonder you're so bitter.


BIGV - 7/27/2011 at 10:52 PM

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quote:
The Saints will be there, the Chargers...not so sure.

Screw the Cowboys. Screw Jerry Jones. Tony Romo is a bum..



A Saints fan and a Bolts fan? Wow, talk about long suffering. No wonder you're so bitter.



Well, that is certainly plausible, or perhaps I just really do despise the Cowboys.


DougMacKenzie - 7/28/2011 at 01:52 AM

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The Saints will be there, the Chargers...not so sure.

Screw the Cowboys. Screw Jerry Jones. Tony Romo is a bum..



A Saints fan and a Bolts fan? Wow, talk about long suffering. No wonder you're so bitter.



Well, that is certainly plausible, or perhaps I just really do despise the Cowboys.


Commie.


BIGV - 7/28/2011 at 01:54 AM

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The Saints will be there, the Chargers...not so sure.

Screw the Cowboys. Screw Jerry Jones. Tony Romo is a bum..



A Saints fan and a Bolts fan? Wow, talk about long suffering. No wonder you're so bitter.



Well, that is certainly plausible, or perhaps I just really do despise the Cowboys.


Commie.



Forsaken one who can only dream about the post season


DougMacKenzie - 7/28/2011 at 02:07 AM

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The Saints will be there, the Chargers...not so sure.

Screw the Cowboys. Screw Jerry Jones. Tony Romo is a bum..



A Saints fan and a Bolts fan? Wow, talk about long suffering. No wonder you're so bitter.



Well, that is certainly plausible, or perhaps I just really do despise the Cowboys.


Commie.



Forsaken one who can only dream about the post season


Those aren't dreams, those are memories from my long lost youth.


WharfRat - 7/28/2011 at 05:03 AM

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The Saints will be there, the Chargers...not so sure.

Screw the Cowboys. Screw Jerry Jones. Tony Romo is a bum..



A Saints fan and a Bolts fan? Wow, talk about long suffering. No wonder you're so bitter.



Well, that is certainly plausible, or perhaps I just really do despise the Cowboys.


Commie.



Forsaken one who can only dream about the post season


Those aren't dreams, those are memories from my long lost youth back in 1793.



DanB - 7/28/2011 at 11:40 AM

Albert Haynesworth traded to the Pats


DougMacKenzie - 7/28/2011 at 12:01 PM

quote:
Albert Haynesworth traded to the Pats


nypeachhead - 7/28/2011 at 12:07 PM

Reggie Bush to Miami in the works


Lee - 7/28/2011 at 12:11 PM

Do the Bears realize they can make some deals? They haven't had a decent wide receiver in forever.


nypeachhead - 7/28/2011 at 12:12 PM

quote:
Do the Bears realize they can make some deals? They haven't had a decent wide receiver in forever.


yeah not sure what they are waiting for


piacere - 7/28/2011 at 12:13 PM

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The Saints will be there, the Chargers...not so sure.

Screw the Cowboys. Screw Jerry Jones. Tony Romo is a bum..



A Saints fan and a Bolts fan? Wow, talk about long suffering. No wonder you're so bitter.



Well, that is certainly plausible, or perhaps I just really do despise the Cowboys.


Commie.



Forsaken one who can only dream about the post season


Those aren't dreams, those are memories from my long lost youth.


c'mon man, you don't expect anyone to believe you can remember that far back, do you?


piacere - 7/28/2011 at 12:15 PM

yo 'hawk , last night, CNBC, the show about the Mafia, good stuff. You catch it?


DougMacKenzie - 7/28/2011 at 12:15 PM

I have pictures.


piacere - 7/28/2011 at 12:16 PM

quote:
I have pictures.


black and white, I'm sure...


DougMacKenzie - 7/28/2011 at 12:16 PM

Who put a non football post in here? Damn Patsies.


DougMacKenzie - 7/28/2011 at 12:17 PM

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I have pictures.


black and white, I'm sure...


Actually, they're more like cave drawings.


piacere - 7/28/2011 at 12:18 PM

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Who put a non football post in here? Damn Patsies.


this is New England...football, clamcakes, the Mafia...it's all good...


piacere - 7/28/2011 at 12:18 PM

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I have pictures.


black and white, I'm sure...


Actually, they're more like cave drawings.


written by Otie?


Lee - 7/28/2011 at 12:21 PM

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Who put a non football post in here? Damn Patsies.


this is New England...football, clamcakes, the Mafia...it's all good...



When are you going to learn that there is the letter "R" ? You folks talk funny.


piacere - 7/28/2011 at 12:23 PM

Hey DUG , Lee says I tawk funny. That's not true, is it?


piacere - 7/28/2011 at 12:25 PM

quote:
As a Chargers fan, scratching my head and slowly repeating to myself "Wtf...wtf...wtf"?...has become commonplace. So many "ifs".... Bob Saunders?....In the last three seasons with the Colts he's played in what? 10 games?...and 40 Million to S Eric Weddle?... I remember this guy getting run over by a RB in what could have been the most important game of his career... 40 Million?

As a Saints fan, I love the re-signing of WR Lance Moore, (The poor man's Wes Welker) one of Brees' favorite targets. Now, let's resign G Carl Nicks & T Jermon Bushrod.

The Saints will be there, the Chargers...not so sure.

Screw the Cowboys. Screw Jerry Jones. Tony Romo is a bum..



you signed Takeo Spikes to the already #1 D in the league. Things can't be all bad...


piacere - 7/28/2011 at 12:26 PM

...and Weddle may have gotten run over but he's a hard-nose, gutsy dude with a good head for the game. Chargers'll be just fine, if they don't start 1 and 5.


piacere - 7/28/2011 at 12:31 PM

one more thing and I'll let you all frolick in the quagmire of your beleaguredness...I'll take Haynesworth. He'll learn that there's football...then there's the Patriots. Trust me.


piacere - 7/28/2011 at 12:35 PM

oh...and Big Ben's new wife looks like all the marbles aren't lined up just right but this is Ben we're talking about...


Lee - 7/28/2011 at 12:37 PM

Just heard the Lions are in the market for Nnamdi Asomugha. Boy would that make my off-season !


piacere - 7/28/2011 at 12:52 PM

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Just heard the Lions are in the market for Nnamdi Asomugha. Boy would that make my off-season !


that'd make anybody's off season...

I thought the Jets were diggin' their grimy little claws into him?


DougMacKenzie - 7/28/2011 at 12:54 PM

quote:
one more thing and I'll let you all frolick in the quagmire of your beleaguredness...I'll take Haynesworth. He'll learn that there's football...then there's the Patriots. Trust me.


Can you say "T.O."?


nypeachhead - 7/28/2011 at 01:29 PM

Reggie Bush officially a Dolphin


Lee - 7/28/2011 at 01:55 PM

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Reggie Bush officially a Dolphin



Great pickup. Interesting to see where they for for a QB.


Lee - 7/28/2011 at 02:18 PM

Skip Bayless is an ass. Just sayin'.


piacere - 7/28/2011 at 03:15 PM

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Skip Bayless is an ass. Just sayin'.


yeah. another snotty blowhard who thinks he knows everything and his opinion is gold. Don't care for the dude at all...


IPowrie - 7/28/2011 at 03:36 PM

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Just heard the Lions are in the market for Nnamdi Asomugha. Boy would that make my off-season !


Would be cool but Id like to see them get one of the other corners and a linebacker


jerryphilbob - 7/28/2011 at 04:48 PM

The Patriots will beat the Colts in the AFC Championship game and then win the Super Bowl in Indy!


WharfRat - 7/28/2011 at 05:53 PM

quote:
oh...and Big Ben's new wife looks like all the marbles aren't lined up just right but this is Ben we're talking about...


yea but.. she hot.

So its ok


Sang - 7/28/2011 at 06:30 PM

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oh...and Big Ben's new wife looks like all the marbles aren't lined up just right but this is Ben we're talking about...


yea but.. she drunk.

So its ok


nypeachhead - 7/28/2011 at 11:08 PM

Jeez just read teh pats signed Ocho Cinco. If anyone can reform haynesworth and that jack ass its Belichick.


Bhawk - 7/29/2011 at 12:33 AM

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Jeez just read teh pats signed Ocho Cinco. If anyone can reform haynesworth and that jack ass its Belichick.


I've never understood why people have such an issue with Ochocinco. What's to "reform?"


DanB - 7/29/2011 at 01:50 AM

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Jeez just read teh pats signed Ocho Cinco. If anyone can reform haynesworth and that jack ass its Belichick.


I've never understood why people have such an issue with Ochocinco. What's to "reform?"


in the locker room and the sidelines he bitches and cries if he doesn't get the ball


DanB - 7/29/2011 at 01:51 AM

The 2011 Patsies are your new Raiders


Lee - 7/29/2011 at 11:11 AM

quote:
Do the Bears realize they can make some deals? They haven't had a decent wide receiver in forever.



Got Roy Williams. They needed to do something.


piacere - 7/29/2011 at 12:22 PM

Ochocinco

if Tom gets the time, that's going to be a deadly combo...


Lee - 7/29/2011 at 12:28 PM

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Ochocinco

if Tom gets the time, that's going to be a deadly combo...



Do you really objectively think he is that good? Heck it was worth what they gave up for him but I don't see him as being that great.

Related, how stupid is Mike Brown of the Bengals? He turns down an offer two years ago of TWO first round picks and the Pats give him a fifth and a sixth. That guy is clueless.


piacere - 7/29/2011 at 12:46 PM

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Ochocinco

if Tom gets the time, that's going to be a deadly combo...



Do you really objectively think he is that good? Heck it was worth what they gave up for him but I don't see him as being that great.

Related, how stupid is Mike Brown of the Bengals? He turns down an offer two years ago of TWO first round picks and the Pats give him a fifth and a sixth. That guy is clueless.


I think he's pretty good, yeah. The thing is, he just got a lot better.


piacere - 7/29/2011 at 12:50 PM

remember Corey Dillon?


Bhawk - 7/29/2011 at 12:51 PM

quote:
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Jeez just read teh pats signed Ocho Cinco. If anyone can reform haynesworth and that jack ass its Belichick.


I've never understood why people have such an issue with Ochocinco. What's to "reform?"


in the locker room and the sidelines he bitches and cries if he doesn't get the ball


Yes, he's the only player in that regard who has ever voiced such concerns. We certainly can't have anyone darkening the glory and honor of the Cincinnati Bengals, now can we?

Sure he's obnoxious, but he's not a partier, doesn't beat up women and has never been arrested. I don't get it. Oh well!


Sang - 7/29/2011 at 01:09 PM

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Do the Bears realize they can make some deals? They haven't had a decent wide receiver in forever.



Got Roy Williams. They needed to do something.



Especially since they let Olsen and Davis go to other teams..........


Lee - 7/29/2011 at 01:34 PM

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Do the Bears realize they can make some deals? They haven't had a decent wide receiver in forever.



Got Roy Williams. They needed to do something.



Especially since they let Olsen and Davis go to other teams..........



I'm okay with Davis going to the Lions. Crap, we get enough of these guys anyway.

Regarding Olsen, prolly not a bad move for the Bears. Tight ends aren't hot commodities in a Martz offense. They just need a blocker. I'm sure they can get a blocking TE much cheaper.


nypeachhead - 7/29/2011 at 01:39 PM

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Do the Bears realize they can make some deals? They haven't had a decent wide receiver in forever.



Got Roy Williams. They needed to do something.


Thats not the answer.LOL


Bhawk - 7/29/2011 at 01:44 PM

Chiefs released Brian Waters last night...any team that needs a veteran at OG who is also a helluva guy, they'd do well to sign him. Dude is solid on the field and off.


DanB - 7/29/2011 at 01:45 PM

quote:
Chiefs released Brian Waters last night...any team that needs a veteran at OG who is also a helluva guy, they'd do well to sign him. Dude is solid on the field and off.


Steelers need OL


nypeachhead - 7/29/2011 at 01:54 PM

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Chiefs released Brian Waters last night...any team that needs a veteran at OG who is also a helluva guy, they'd do well to sign him. Dude is solid on the field and off.


Steelers need OL



Steelers | Flozell Adams released
Fri, 29 Jul 2011 06:52:00 -0700

The Pittsburgh Steelers have released OT Flozell Adams.



Read more: http://www.kffl.com/hotw/nfl#ixzz1TVCtwEZx


Bhawk - 7/29/2011 at 01:57 PM

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Chiefs released Brian Waters last night...any team that needs a veteran at OG who is also a helluva guy, they'd do well to sign him. Dude is solid on the field and off.


Steelers need OL


Waters would be the perfect fit. It might seem like I'm a big fan of the guy, and I am. Sharp as hell. He had a thrice-weekly segment on one of the local sports talk radio stations during the season that was a must listen. He's his own agent, when asked about it once he said "Why would I pay someone else my money for reading a contract? I can read." Heh. Apparently he also got pretty intense during the lockout negotiations (one of the player reps) with Clark Hunt. You'd like to think that had nothing to do with him being released, but...


DanB - 7/29/2011 at 02:02 PM

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Chiefs released Brian Waters last night...any team that needs a veteran at OG who is also a helluva guy, they'd do well to sign him. Dude is solid on the field and off.


Steelers need OL



Steelers | Flozell Adams released
Fri, 29 Jul 2011 06:52:00 -0700

The Pittsburgh Steelers have released OT Flozell Adams.



Read more: http://www.kffl.com/hotw/nfl#ixzz1TVCtwEZx


they've also cut Max Starks


fensranger - 7/29/2011 at 02:05 PM

glad Pats took Ocho- he is a waste IMO. Afraid to get hit and only a glimmer of what he was. He will no way do what Moss did when he joined Pats. Haynesworth will be very interesting. He will be motivated but i wonder what he has left in the tank.

Waiting to see how Jets are going to handle their situation. They have lost Brad Smith and they have so many holes to fill.


Lee - 7/29/2011 at 02:35 PM

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Do the Bears realize they can make some deals? They haven't had a decent wide receiver in forever.



Got Roy Williams. They needed to do something.


Thats not the answer.LOL



Lions got a 1, 3, & 6th round pick for him when the Cowprods took him. LOVE the guy.


nypeachhead - 7/29/2011 at 02:56 PM

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Do the Bears realize they can make some deals? They haven't had a decent wide receiver in forever.



Got Roy Williams. They needed to do something.


Thats not the answer.LOL



Lions got a 1, 3, & 6th round pick for him when the Cowprods took him. LOVE the guy.


Just my opinion, he aint what he was iin Detriot.


IPowrie - 7/29/2011 at 03:45 PM

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Do the Bears realize they can make some deals? They haven't had a decent wide receiver in forever.



Got Roy Williams. They needed to do something.


Thats not the answer.LOL



Lions got a 1, 3, & 6th round pick for him when the Cowprods took him. LOVE the guy.


Got love Jerry Jones


fensranger - 7/29/2011 at 04:41 PM

i cannot believe Braylon Edwards is still out there. He is a great talent. Not sure why Bears didnt tap him instead of Roy Williams. Edwards is also a cold weather guy.


nypeachhead - 7/29/2011 at 04:44 PM

McGahee to Broncos


IPowrie - 7/29/2011 at 04:44 PM

Just saw the Lions signed all there draft picks


nypeachhead - 7/29/2011 at 05:21 PM

quote:
McGahee to Broncos


now being reported not done deal. Oh well.LOL


nypeachhead - 7/30/2011 at 02:21 AM

Holy $%^&^ !!!

The eagles grabbed him.

Philly surprise
Here's an offseason stunner. Prized free-agent cornerback Nnamdi Asomugha is heading to the Eagles for five years and $60 million, $25M guaranteed. Full Story | Freeman: Jets blow it by losing out on Nnamdi
Jones: Dallas was 'close' | Chat: Updates | RapidReports


WharfRat - 7/30/2011 at 10:52 AM

And the Iggles sign Vince Young.

Guess they dont want ANY mentally stable QBs


DougMacKenzie - 7/30/2011 at 12:15 PM

This is fun!


Bhawk - 7/30/2011 at 12:37 PM

Chiefs are doing well. All draft picks signed and in camp and 9 of 10 of our own free agents retained.

This Pioli guy seems to know what he is doing...


nypeachhead - 7/31/2011 at 03:26 AM

Marion Barber to Bears: Willis McGahee to Broncos
McGahee gets 4 years and $10 million
Barber gets 2 years and $5 million


WharfRat - 7/31/2011 at 10:42 AM

Difference is Ben has 2 rings

Romo?? notsomuch

[Edited on 7/31/2011 by WharfRat]


Lee - 7/31/2011 at 11:18 AM

I just saw on the news that the Steelers reported to training camp.





















At the county jail.


DanB - 7/31/2011 at 12:59 PM

So Albert has skipped the first practice

http://espn.go.com/boston/nfl/story/_/id/6819103/albert-haynesworth-practic e-conditioning-fail


fensranger - 7/31/2011 at 01:31 PM

still interesting and to what jets and giants plan on doing. wow its already sunday and nothing yet. still alot of jets giants guys are out there. can and will jets keep cro and braylon? i think so and they will probably also have a surprise. also wondering where burress lands. perhaps burress becomes a jet and braylon a giant ?????


nypeachhead - 7/31/2011 at 02:03 PM

Burress to the Jets, one yr deal via espn.


WharfRat - 8/1/2011 at 12:55 AM

quote:
Burress to the Jets, one yr deal via espn.


Hope he shoots himself in the other leg.

He belongs on the Jets.


CanPeach - 8/1/2011 at 02:51 AM

Chuck, I didn't think the Steelers would sign him, I heard they were on his list of possible picks for a new home.


WharfRat - 8/1/2011 at 09:58 AM

I didnt want the Steelers to sign him ( damaged goods, IMO)

He used the Giants to drive up hs price.. I HATE that


BIGV - 8/1/2011 at 10:37 AM

Reggie Bush @ 11 Million per season..

Or Darren Sproles @ 3.1 Million per season...


mmmmmm....No brainer. That frees 7.9 million per season that can be spent on other needs. Both Sproles and Bush are fragile, "Scat-like" players who are prone to injury.....

I'd say the Saints made out like Bandits and once again the Chargers were asleep when it counted.


piacere - 8/1/2011 at 12:12 PM

quote:
So Albert has skipped the first practice

http://espn.go.com/boston/nfl/story/_/id/6819103/albert-haynesworth-practic e-conditioning-fail


A few factors why he wasn't on the field, Belichick being one of them. Relax...your ass-whuppin' is comin' soon enough...


Lee - 8/1/2011 at 12:17 PM

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So Albert has skipped the first practice

http://espn.go.com/boston/nfl/story/_/id/6819103/albert-haynesworth-practic e-conditioning-fail


A few factors why he wasn't on the field, Belichick being one of them. Relax...your ass-whuppin' is comin' soon enough...



Indeed. If you weird-talkin' people make it to the Super Bowl, The Lions will give you your just deserts.


piacere - 8/1/2011 at 12:26 PM

I wonder how Matt Millen feels knowing he ran the Lions into the ground and now they're getting much better without him. The guy is a buffoon. It's almost comical watching him next to Steve Young...


DanB - 8/1/2011 at 01:39 PM

quote:
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So Albert has skipped the first practice

http://espn.go.com/boston/nfl/story/_/id/6819103/albert-haynesworth-practic e-conditioning-fail


A few factors why he wasn't on the field, Belichick being one of them. Relax...your ass-whuppin' is comin' soon enough...



my fatass could out run Albert unless I'm waitressing a tray of food/drink


nypeachhead - 8/1/2011 at 04:56 PM

Giants shopping Osi


piacere - 8/1/2011 at 05:28 PM

quote:
quote:
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So Albert has skipped the first practice

http://espn.go.com/boston/nfl/story/_/id/6819103/albert-haynesworth-practic e-conditioning-fail


A few factors why he wasn't on the field, Belichick being one of them. Relax...your ass-whuppin' is comin' soon enough...



my fatass could out run Albert unless I'm waitressing a tray of food/drink


and just where would you be "waitressing"?

better yet, I don't want to know.

another thing, don't tell me you'd outrun him, tell him. (then pray you actually can)


Bhawk - 8/1/2011 at 05:34 PM

Randy Moss retires. Interesting career, to say the least.


DanB - 8/1/2011 at 07:36 PM

quote:
quote:
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So Albert has skipped the first practice

http://espn.go.com/boston/nfl/story/_/id/6819103/albert-haynesworth-practic e-conditioning-fail


A few factors why he wasn't on the field, Belichick being one of them. Relax...your ass-whuppin' is comin' soon enough...



my fatass could out run Albert unless I'm waitressing a tray of food/drink


and just where would you be "waitressing"?

better yet, I don't want to know.

another thing, don't tell me you'd outrun him, tell him. (then pray you actually can)


point is he seems to be able to catch waitresses


spacemonkey - 8/1/2011 at 10:22 PM

I think a lot of the big market teams with cap issues like the Giants are going to have problems with the new cap limits. The giant cut one lineman with a bad back and another with a bum knee. I don't think teams will take chances on injured players when they have cap issues.

I think this is an advantage for the Redskins, Bruce Allan did a great job managing their cap space and they are in a good place to pickup some good players.


nypeachhead - 8/2/2011 at 12:53 AM

Big Blue resigns Bradshaw


piacere - 8/2/2011 at 12:14 PM

quote:
quote:
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So Albert has skipped the first practice

http://espn.go.com/boston/nfl/story/_/id/6819103/albert-haynesworth-practic e-conditioning-fail


A few factors why he wasn't on the field, Belichick being one of them. Relax...your ass-whuppin' is comin' soon enough...



my fatass could out run Albert unless I'm waitressing a tray of food/drink


and just where would you be "waitressing"?

better yet, I don't want to know.

another thing, don't tell me you'd outrun him, tell him. (then pray you actually can)


point is he seems to be able to catch waitresses


oh. that got by me. wasn't aware of his off field antics but now that he's a Patriot, not too much will be tolerated. My point is/was that Bill usually makes pretty good decisions regarding personnel, the best record in football the past 10 years, he's doing something right. I'll wait and see about Haynesworth...


DanB - 8/2/2011 at 01:55 PM

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quote:
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So Albert has skipped the first practice

http://espn.go.com/boston/nfl/story/_/id/6819103/albert-haynesworth-practic e-conditioning-fail


A few factors why he wasn't on the field, Belichick being one of them. Relax...your ass-whuppin' is comin' soon enough...



my fatass could out run Albert unless I'm waitressing a tray of food/drink


and just where would you be "waitressing"?

better yet, I don't want to know.

another thing, don't tell me you'd outrun him, tell him. (then pray you actually can)


point is he seems to be able to catch waitresses


oh. that got by me. wasn't aware of his off field antics but now that he's a Patriot, not too much will be tolerated. My point is/was that Bill usually makes pretty good decisions regarding personnel, the best record in football the past 10 years, he's doing something right. I'll wait and see about Haynesworth...


yes he's made some great moves but there's doubt about this one

I expect Brady and Chad Johnson to torch the Jets


Lee - 8/2/2011 at 02:23 PM

Aren't most Steelers incarcerated?

Just throwing that out.


DanB - 8/2/2011 at 02:31 PM

quote:
Aren't most Steelers incarcerated?

Just throwing that out.



gondicar - 8/2/2011 at 07:36 PM

No matter what you think about him or his team, Sexy Rexy is the best thing to happen to NFL press conferences since Bill Parcells...

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/08/02/rex-ryan-invites-the-rest-o f-league-to-beat-the-patriots/related/

Rex Ryan invites the rest of league to beat the Patriots
Posted by Gregg Rosenthal on August 2, 2011, 8:11 AM EDT

We’ve been so busy updating player movement that it’s been easy to miss out on the finer things in the NFL, like a Rex Ryan press conference.

One of our favorite moments from Tuesday, which also included him calling this his best Jets roster and Antonio Cromartie a top-five corner was his plea to the rest of the NFL to beat his biggest rival.

“I think we have to find somebody out there to beat New England besides us, I think that would help,” Ryan said. “Anybody out there that wants to sign up for it? Are you good enough as a team to beat the New England Patriots? Forget about us, are you good enough to go out and beat the New England Patriots? I’m challenging the league.”

As Rex is fond of pointing out, no one but the Ryan brothers beat New England last year. (Rob once in Cleveland, Rex twice.)

The Patriots will try to get revenge on Rex this year with the help of Chad Ochocinco.

“I’ve always said this, when it was Chad Johnson, we could never stop him, but when it was Chad Ochocinco, I’ve been more successful,” Ryan said. “So I hope he doesn’t change his name back.”


fensranger - 8/2/2011 at 07:49 PM

i think having Revis and Cro also helped stop him.


gondicar - 8/2/2011 at 08:40 PM

And not to be outdone by his brother...

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/08/01/rob-ryan-vows-to-beat-the-a ss-of-the-all-hype-team/related/

Rob Ryan vows to “beat the ass” of “the all-hype team”
Posted by Michael David Smith on August 1, 2011, 10:26 PM EDT

After becoming one of the Eagles’ many high-profile acquisitions over the last week, Vince Young proclaimed Philadelphia the “Dream Team.” Cowboys defensive coordinator Rob Ryan may have given the Eagles a different nickname today.

Speaking to reporters at Cowboys camp, Ryan said that he was happy with the Cowboys’ relative lack of big-name free-agent signings because he thinks the players the Cowboys already have are good enough. And then he said he’s looking forward to playing a certain other team that has received more attention in free agency.

“These are proven players, and that’s what we need,” Ryan said. “I don’t know if we win the all-hype team, I think that might have gone to somebody else, but we’re going to beat their ass when we play them.”

Ryan didn’t mention the Eagles by name, but I think it’s safe to say that’s who he was referencing. And with that, Rob Ryan has given us a brash statement that even his brother Rex will find it tough to top.


Brendan - 8/2/2011 at 08:49 PM

Vince Young is an idiot, and I really wish he hadn't said that, but.....

The Cowboys are going to beat the Eagles this year???? I think not.


WharfRat - 8/3/2011 at 01:03 AM

quote:
The Cowboys are going to beat the Eagles this year????


As much as I hate the Iggles... I hate the Cowpokes even more.

So no


WharfRat - 8/3/2011 at 01:07 AM

quote:
Aren't most Steelers CHAMPIONS?

Just throwing that out.


Just sayin.


spacemonkey - 8/3/2011 at 03:54 AM

Rothlesberger is a serial rapist. He gets no respect from me.

I got no problem with the rest of the Steelers, I like they way they play.




WharfRat - 8/3/2011 at 08:56 AM

Here we go again..

Just because somone is ACCUSED of something doesnt make it true.


Lee - 8/3/2011 at 10:25 AM

quote:
Here we go again..

Just because somone is ACCUSED of something doesnt make it true.



I totally agree with that. Who knows what actually happened.


Lee - 8/3/2011 at 10:58 AM

Man, it's gotta be a good time to be an Eagles fan. I can't believe how many moves they've made.


piacere - 8/3/2011 at 12:17 PM

quote:
i think having Revis and Cro also helped stop him.


2 things...1) Brady's throwin' the ball to him this year and 2) Cromartie couldn't tackle my sister...


Lee - 8/3/2011 at 12:18 PM

quote:
quote:
i think having Revis and Cro also helped stop him.


2 things...1) Brady's throwin' the ball to him this year and 2) Cromartie couldn't tackle my sister...



Does she run a 40 minute 40?


Brendan - 8/3/2011 at 12:44 PM

quote:
Man, it's gotta be a good time to be an Eagles fan. I can't believe how many moves they've made.
I'm definitely excited for the season, but I hate all this "dream team", "NFC team to beat", Super Bowl talk. Just play.


Lee - 8/3/2011 at 12:49 PM

quote:
quote:
Man, it's gotta be a good time to be an Eagles fan. I can't believe how many moves they've made.
I'm definitely excited for the season, but I hate all this "dream team", "NFC team to beat", Super Bowl talk. Just play.



Mike and Mike had Andy Reid on this morning and Reid actually siad that, "Just play".

They'll trade one of those cornerbacks. Why do you need three top notch guys?


Brendan - 8/3/2011 at 12:56 PM

quote:
quote:
quote:
Man, it's gotta be a good time to be an Eagles fan. I can't believe how many moves they've made.
I'm definitely excited for the season, but I hate all this "dream team", "NFC team to beat", Super Bowl talk. Just play.



Mike and Mike had Andy Reid on this morning and Reid actually siad that, "Just play".

They'll trade one of those cornerbacks. Why do you need three top notch guys?
You can play all three in the nickle. Several teams do. Asomugha is big and can rush too. I think they should keep all three and never let anyone score through the air. It's pretty obvious they're gunning to win the SB this year. Why trade him (Asante) now?


gondicar - 8/3/2011 at 01:21 PM

quote:
quote:
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Man, it's gotta be a good time to be an Eagles fan. I can't believe how many moves they've made.
I'm definitely excited for the season, but I hate all this "dream team", "NFC team to beat", Super Bowl talk. Just play.



Mike and Mike had Andy Reid on this morning and Reid actually siad that, "Just play".

They'll trade one of those cornerbacks. Why do you need three top notch guys?
You can play all three in the nickle. Several teams do. Asomugha is big and can rush too. I think they should keep all three and never let anyone score through the air. It's pretty obvious they're gunning to win the SB this year. Why trade him (Asante) now?


Will Asante be content (i.e. productive) as a nickel back?


Brendan - 8/3/2011 at 01:50 PM

quote:
quote:
quote:
quote:
quote:
Man, it's gotta be a good time to be an Eagles fan. I can't believe how many moves they've made.
I'm definitely excited for the season, but I hate all this "dream team", "NFC team to beat", Super Bowl talk. Just play.



Mike and Mike had Andy Reid on this morning and Reid actually siad that, "Just play".

They'll trade one of those cornerbacks. Why do you need three top notch guys?
You can play all three in the nickle. Several teams do. Asomugha is big and can rush too. I think they should keep all three and never let anyone score through the air. It's pretty obvious they're gunning to win the SB this year. Why trade him (Asante) now?


Will Asante be content (i.e. productive) as a nickel back?
Good question. Two things I would say...

1. He should be content to be a part of a serious SB contending team.
2. Asante has said he'll play nickle if they want him to, as has Asomugha.


DougMacKenzie - 8/3/2011 at 02:14 PM

quote:
quote:
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Man, it's gotta be a good time to be an Eagles fan. I can't believe how many moves they've made.
I'm definitely excited for the season, but I hate all this "dream team", "NFC team to beat", Super Bowl talk. Just play.



Mike and Mike had Andy Reid on this morning and Reid actually siad that, "Just play".

They'll trade one of those cornerbacks. Why do you need three top notch guys?
You can play all three in the nickle. Several teams do. Asomugha is big and can rush too. I think they should keep all three and never let anyone score through the air. It's pretty obvious they're gunning to win the SB this year. Why trade him (Asante) now?


Will Asante be content (i.e. productive) as a nickel back?
Good question. Two things I would say...

1. He should be content to be a part of a serious SB contending team.
2. Asante has said he'll play nickle if they want him to, as has Asomugha.

Go ask Lebron, D. Wade, and the rest of the Heat how all that works out.

I'm loving Rob Ryan and Jason Garrett. After the last several years with Coach Cupcake this is more like it! Bring it on girls.

COWBOYS!!!!!!

[Edited on 8/3/2011 by DougMacKenzie]


Bhawk - 8/3/2011 at 02:21 PM

quote:
quote:
Aren't most Steelers CHAMPIONS?

Just throwing that out.


Just sayin.




Ok, that pic is a little creepy.


Bhawk - 8/3/2011 at 02:22 PM

quote:
quote:
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Man, it's gotta be a good time to be an Eagles fan. I can't believe how many moves they've made.
I'm definitely excited for the season, but I hate all this "dream team", "NFC team to beat", Super Bowl talk. Just play.



Mike and Mike had Andy Reid on this morning and Reid actually siad that, "Just play".

They'll trade one of those cornerbacks. Why do you need three top notch guys?
You can play all three in the nickle. Several teams do. Asomugha is big and can rush too. I think they should keep all three and never let anyone score through the air. It's pretty obvious they're gunning to win the SB this year. Why trade him (Asante) now?


Will Asante be content (i.e. productive) as a nickel back?
Good question. Two things I would say...

1. He should be content to be a part of a serious SB contending team.
2. Asante has said he'll play nickle if they want him to, as has Asomugha.


Awesome-wah is a fun word to say, innit?


Sang - 8/3/2011 at 02:49 PM

quote:
Here we go again..

Just because somone is ACCUSED of something doesnt make it true.






piacere - 8/3/2011 at 03:30 PM

quote:
quote:
quote:
quote:
quote:
quote:
Man, it's gotta be a good time to be an Eagles fan. I can't believe how many moves they've made.
I'm definitely excited for the season, but I hate all this "dream team", "NFC team to beat", Super Bowl talk. Just play.



Mike and Mike had Andy Reid on this morning and Reid actually siad that, "Just play".

They'll trade one of those cornerbacks. Why do you need three top notch guys?
You can play all three in the nickle. Several teams do. Asomugha is big and can rush too. I think they should keep all three and never let anyone score through the air. It's pretty obvious they're gunning to win the SB this year. Why trade him (Asante) now?


Will Asante be content (i.e. productive) as a nickel back?
Good question. Two things I would say...

1. He should be content to be a part of a serious SB contending team.
2. Asante has said he'll play nickle if they want him to, as has Asomugha.


that's not what I just read. After practice yesterday Asante wasn't too happy...


Brendan - 8/3/2011 at 03:38 PM

There's a lot of sh1t floating around regarding Asante. This is the main quote that a lot of people are pointing to:

quote:
"I want to be where I'm wanted," Samuel said. "If they're tired of my big playmaking ability, they can ship me out."
It's meaningless if you ask me. Until they trade him, he sould assume they want him there.


Brendan - 8/3/2011 at 03:48 PM

quote:
that's not what I just read. After practice yesterday Asante wasn't too happy...

You probably just made that sh1t up anyway. Nefarious Pats fan.


piacere - 8/3/2011 at 04:55 PM

quote:
quote:
that's not what I just read. After practice yesterday Asante wasn't too happy...

You probably just made that sh1t up anyway. Nefarious Pats fan.


Eagles just traded him to New England !!!

















gotcha.


Lee - 8/4/2011 at 10:47 AM

quote:
There's a lot of sh1t floating around regarding Asante. This is the main quote that a lot of people are pointing to:
quote:
"I want to be where I'm wanted," Samuel said. "If they're tired of my big playmaking ability, they can ship me out."
It's meaningless if you ask me. Until they trade him, he sould assume they want him there.



My initial thought when I heard they had all three of these guys was, "Can't a corner play safety or vice versa?"

And my opinion, but I don't think any of the three would swallow their pride to be a nickelback.


WharfRat - 8/4/2011 at 11:02 AM

Doesnt matter anyway


HERE WE GO STEELERS HERE WE GO





[Edited on 8/4/2011 by WharfRat]


piacere - 8/4/2011 at 12:37 PM

lotsa concern over the heat effecting camps and rightfully so.

why not start camps in October, the season in November and have it run 'til late March?

that way, the Patriots can celebrate Super Bowl victories just before the Red Sox start towards another ring.

makes sense to me...


Brendan - 8/4/2011 at 12:55 PM

quote:
lotsa concern over the heat effecting camps and rightfully so.

why not start camps in October, the season in November and have it run 'til late March?

that way, the Patriots can celebrate Super Bowl victories just before the Red Sox start towards another ring.

makes sense to me...
Well, we know the heat's effecting something...


piacere - 8/4/2011 at 01:40 PM

the sun, here in the rolling hills of New England, embraces the dewey grass, lovingly caresses the wild flowers and casts it's gentle beams of hope and glory upon the mecca of football greatness known with affection as "The Razor", making it shine like a jewel and rise up above the ashes of doom and despair that all of your beleagured franchises shall find themselves, wallowing in the hopelessness of defeat.

I have spoken.


piacere - 8/4/2011 at 01:41 PM


Bhawk - 8/4/2011 at 02:20 PM

quote:
the sun, here in the rolling hills of my delusions, embraces the dewey grass, lovingly caresses the wild flowers and casts it's gentle beams of confusion and desparation upon the mecca of coiffed hair known with affection as "Tom's Mullet", making it shine like a hair helmet and rise up above the ashes of despair that all insane Pats shall find themselves, wallowing in the hopelessness of defeat.

I'm drunk. Tanked. $hitfaced. Blotto.



Bhawk - 8/4/2011 at 02:20 PM


piacere - 8/4/2011 at 02:24 PM

quote:
quote:
the sun, here in the rolling hills of my delusions, embraces the dewey grass, lovingly caresses the wild flowers and casts it's gentle beams of confusion and desparation upon the mecca of coiffed hair known with affection as "Tom's Mullet", making it shine like a hair helmet and rise up above the ashes of despair that all insane Pats shall find themselves, wallowing in the hopelessness of defeat.

I'm drunk. Tanked. $hitfaced. Blotto.





Oh man. LMAO.


BIGV - 8/4/2011 at 04:42 PM



We're winning the SB this year for Sam!...Move aside


phillybob - 8/5/2011 at 03:34 AM

for sammy mills from the old philadelphia Stars he played for them for years!!


spacemonkey - 8/5/2011 at 05:49 AM

quote:
quote:
Here we go again..

Just because somone is ACCUSED of something doesnt make it true.



I totally agree with that. Who knows what actually happened.


Big Ben was to too drunk to know himself!

One time maybe the girl is lying, but three times? ain't buying it.


DougMacKenzie - 8/5/2011 at 12:53 PM

Losers, whinners,and wannabees. Can't eake the heat? Quit. What a bunch of crybabies. The 'Pokes are knockin' heads down in San Antonio. Think it's hot where you are? HA! This camp is like a combination of Parcells and Jimmy Johnson. Rookies have to earn "The Star" for their helmet by their play. The rest of you tea and crumpet affecionados better get your heads on a swivel.

COWBOYS!!!!!!


piacere - 8/5/2011 at 01:23 PM

quote:
Losers, whinners,and wannabees. Can't eake the heat? Quit. What a bunch of crybabies. The 'Pokes are knockin' heads down in San Antonio. Think it's hot where you are? HA! This camp is like a combination of Parcells and Jimmy Johnson. Rookies have to earn "The Star" for their helmet by their play. The rest of you tea and crumpet affecionados better get your heads on a swivel.

COWBOYS!!!!!!


LMAO. too funny...

listen, this is easy, though some of you may need to pay extra attention...

I'll say this slowly so all of you can understand and grasp the mightiness of it's meaning...

PATRIOTS !!!!!!!!!!


Brendan - 8/5/2011 at 01:32 PM

This is what they're practicing in San Antonio. This is what they'll be doing after every game. This is all Antonia Romo can ever expect in the NFL. Bitter tears.



Time for you to shut up.


DougMacKenzie - 8/5/2011 at 01:49 PM

Let me know how that Vince Young thing works out for 'ya.


DanB - 8/5/2011 at 01:52 PM

quote:
quote:
quote:
Here we go again..

Just because somone is ACCUSED of something doesnt make it true.



I totally agree with that. Who knows what actually happened.


Big Ben was to too drunk to know himself!

One time maybe the girl is lying, but three times? ain't buying it.




where's the 3rd accusation? This ain't Hokie alum Ron Mexico


piacere - 8/5/2011 at 02:10 PM

quote:
quote:
quote:
quote:
Here we go again..

Just because somone is ACCUSED of something doesnt make it true.



I totally agree with that. Who knows what actually happened.


Big Ben was to too drunk to know himself!

One time maybe the girl is lying, but three times? ain't buying it.




where's the 3rd accusation? This ain't Hokie alum Ron Mexico


2 wasn't enough?


DanB - 8/5/2011 at 02:16 PM

quote:
quote:
quote:
quote:
quote:
Here we go again..

Just because somone is ACCUSED of something doesnt make it true.



I totally agree with that. Who knows what actually happened.


Big Ben was to too drunk to know himself!

One time maybe the girl is lying, but three times? ain't buying it.




where's the 3rd accusation? This ain't Hokie alum Ron Mexico


2 wasn't enough?


any accusation is one too many but nothing has been proven


Brendan - 8/5/2011 at 02:18 PM

quote:
Let me know how that Vince Young thing works out for 'ya.

Psssst, Doug! He's the backup...


DougMacKenzie - 8/5/2011 at 02:40 PM

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quote:
Let me know how that Vince Young thing works out for 'ya.

Psssst, Doug! He's the backup...

Not for long. Vick won't last half the season before he's hurt.


Bhawk - 8/5/2011 at 02:43 PM

quote:
Let me know how that Vince Young thing works out for 'ya.



Well, of course Vince Young will be a disaster. He's a Longhorn.


DanB - 8/5/2011 at 02:51 PM

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quote:
quote:
Let me know how that Vince Young thing works out for 'ya.

Psssst, Doug! He's the backup...

Not for long. Vick won't last half the season before he's hurt.


then the Iggles season will go the dogs


spacemonkey - 8/5/2011 at 02:54 PM

quote:
quote:
quote:
quote:
Here we go again..

Just because somone is ACCUSED of something doesnt make it true.



I totally agree with that. Who knows what actually happened.


Big Ben was to too drunk to know himself!

One time maybe the girl is lying, but three times? ain't buying it.




where's the 3rd accusation? This ain't Hokie alum Ron Mexico


Read the news

3 times Big Ben has been accused of whipping out little Ben without invitation. google it.

what's it matter, once is bad enough.



[Edited on 8/5/2011 by spacemonkey]


spacemonkey - 8/5/2011 at 02:58 PM

you would think he would have gotten his **** together after the first druken rape episode.

drunken athletes raping women is way too common.

Kobe, Big Ben, Dino Ciccarelli, mexico , the list is too long.

that don't excuse any of them.


DanB - 8/5/2011 at 03:13 PM

yet Brady Quinn walks free


Brendan - 8/5/2011 at 03:13 PM

quote:
quote:
quote:
Let me know how that Vince Young thing works out for 'ya.

Psssst, Doug! He's the backup...

Not for long. Vick won't last half the season before he's hurt.
Holy sh1t! I can barely type due to the convulsive laughter. You, a cowboys fan, is going to knock another teams quaterback as fragile?!?! How many games did Tony play last year? I know, let's check Dallascowboys.com. Oh wait. They don't have any of the 2010 stats posted! Is it the forgotten season? Maybe you can just wish it away like it never happened, right?

Dude, seriously, get out of the sun. Your brain is fried.


DanB - 8/5/2011 at 03:16 PM


funkyfan - 8/5/2011 at 03:44 PM

quote:
yet Brady Quinn walks free




This one is too damn funny...


BIGV - 8/5/2011 at 04:45 PM

quote:
Losers, whinners,and wannabees. COWBOYS!!!!!!



gondicar - 8/5/2011 at 07:51 PM

I love this thread.

PS - go ahead and keep bickering over which of your QBs is more fragile, vile, and just plain terrible...it only makes it more obvious which quarterback you WISH you had on your team...


DanB - 8/5/2011 at 08:07 PM

I'll take the QB with 4 rings


DanB - 8/5/2011 at 08:10 PM




Romo & girlfriend

[Edited on 8/5/2011 by DanB]

[Edited on 8/5/2011 by DanB]


IPowrie - 8/5/2011 at 08:21 PM

quote:
I'll take the QB with 4 rings




I'll take the 2011 Detroit Lions, at least I'm looking to the future and not living in past glories


DanB - 8/5/2011 at 08:23 PM

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quote:
I'll take the QB with 4 rings




I'll take the 2011 Detroit Lions, at least I'm looking to the future and not living in past glories


your season will be over in a about 6 weeks


IPowrie - 8/5/2011 at 09:26 PM

quote:
quote:
quote:
I'll take the QB with 4 rings




I'll take the 2011 Detroit Lions, at least I'm looking to the future and not living in past glories


your season will be over in a about 6 weeks




Nope Stafford will stay healthy and the DLine will cause enough pressure to make up for having a average secondary and the Lions arent old


BIGV - 8/5/2011 at 09:46 PM

quote:
quote:
quote:
I'll take the QB with 4 rings




I'll take the 2011 Detroit Lions, at least I'm looking to the future and not living in past glories


your season will be over in a about 6 weeks


9 weeks...and they are getting closer..


spacemonkey - 8/5/2011 at 09:53 PM

quote:



Romo & girlfriend



Hey

Leave Pee Wee alone!


DougMacKenzie - 8/5/2011 at 11:40 PM

quote:
quote:
quote:
quote:
Let me know how that Vince Young thing works out for 'ya.

Psssst, Doug! He's the backup...

Not for long. Vick won't last half the season before he's hurt.
Holy sh1t! I can barely type due to the convulsive laughter. You, a cowboys fan, is going to knock another teams quaterback as fragile?!?! How many games did Tony play last year? I know, let's check Dallascowboys.com. Oh wait. They don't have any of the 2010 stats posted! Is it the forgotten season? Maybe you can just wish it away like it never happened, right?

Dude, seriously, get out of the sun. Your brain is fried.


I don't think Vick is fragile at all, but his style of play, no matter how much tamer he is these days, sets him up for some big hits, and injuries. His competitive nature may work against him staying healthy as he gets older. Romo, on the other hand, is much more likely to hit the deck and seek cover, especially after last year.


Lee - 8/6/2011 at 09:55 AM

quote:
quote:
Let me know how that Vince Young thing works out for 'ya.

Psssst, Doug! He's the backup...



Signing him was a great move. He could start on a lot of teams. What team can boast a better backup?


Lee - 8/6/2011 at 09:57 AM

quote:
I'll take the QB with 4 rings





And six teeth? Did he commute from West Viriginia on gameday?


IPowrie - 8/7/2011 at 12:21 AM

Got a good laugh today a buddy of mine thinks Tim Tebow is going to be an elite quarterback


Lee - 8/8/2011 at 12:13 PM

quote:
quote:
Here we go again..

Just because somone is ACCUSED of something doesnt make it true.










Sang, I don't think you are gonna find your ass there but happy hunting.


Sang - 8/8/2011 at 01:51 PM

I was looking for your man card.......don't think I'll find that either.........


spacemonkey - 8/8/2011 at 05:38 PM

quote:
quote:
I'll take the QB with 4 rings





And six teeth? Did he commute from West Viriginia on gameday?


Louisiana, West Virginia wouldn't have him.


spacemonkey - 8/8/2011 at 05:44 PM

quote:
Got a good laugh today a buddy of mine thinks Tim Tebow is going to be an elite quarterback


This is why college kids should not do drugs!!


spacemonkey - 8/8/2011 at 05:45 PM

I think Tebow would make a better tight end.


piacere - 8/9/2011 at 12:21 PM

2nd rate chat from misguided bedouins.

players from the 70's. Lions. PeeWee.

idle banter.

snap out of it.

PATRIOTS !!!!!


DougMacKenzie - 8/9/2011 at 12:24 PM

The markets may crash, governments be overthrown, rioting in the streets, people moving to Belize, but who cares? We have football! It's gonna be okay. Preseason games this weekend, and here's wishing good luck to all your teams this year. Well, everyone except the Redskins. And the Eagles, and Giants, and Pats, and Bears, and Jets, and especially the Squeelers and Lions, oh, and the Packers, and the Colts.......


Sang - 8/9/2011 at 01:07 PM

As long as we are at it, eFF the Packers..............


StratDal - 8/9/2011 at 02:26 PM

Just spun my copy of The Power And The Glory - The Original Music and Voices of NFL Films. Good stuff!

Sorry but football hasn't been the same since John "The Voice Of God" Facenda died. At least it keeps the sports talk shows interesting.


Bhawk - 8/9/2011 at 02:45 PM

quote:
As long as we are at it, eFF the Packers..............


I'll throw in an EFF the Broncos, Chargers & Raiders. But, especially the effing Broncos. EFF the effing Broncos. Yesterday. Today. Tomorrow. Forever.


WharfRat - 8/10/2011 at 01:03 AM

quote:
quote:
As long as we are at it, eFF the Packers..............


I'll throw in an EFF the Ravens, Browns & Bungles But, especially the effing Ravens. EFF the effing Ravens. Yesterday. Today. Tomorrow. Forever.



WharfRat - 8/10/2011 at 01:09 AM

quote:
I love this thread.

PS - go ahead and keep bickering over which of your QBs is more fragile, vile, and just plain terrible...it only makes it more obvious which quarterback you WISH you had on your team...




Thats funny.
I was expecting a pic of Peyton Manning


DougMacKenzie - 8/10/2011 at 02:16 PM

Okay, just to be clear.....eEf all you losers and your freakin' loser franchises and ugly, worthless fans. The Cowboys will always be America's Team. Yesterday. Today. Tomorrow. Forever. Learn it, live it, love it. We don't even have to win we're so good.



Step into the light!

COWBOYS!!!!!!


piacere - 8/10/2011 at 02:26 PM

"We don't even have to win we're so good".

LOL


Sang - 8/10/2011 at 02:27 PM

The way the Texans have been playing, pretty soon the Cowgirls won't even be Texas's Team......


IPowrie - 8/10/2011 at 03:24 PM

quote:
As long as we are at it, eFF the Bears Packers and Vikings..............


Go Lions


Lee - 8/10/2011 at 03:34 PM

quote:
Okay, just to be clear.....eEf all you losers and your freakin' loser franchises and ugly, worthless fans. The Cowboys will always be America's Team. Yesterday. Today. Tomorrow. Forever. Learn it, live it, love it. We don't even have to win we're so good.



Step into the light!

COWBOYS!!!!!!



At least your quarterback Sonny Bono can tell jokes.


BIGV - 8/10/2011 at 04:43 PM

quote:
Okay, just to be clear.....eEf all you losers and your freakin' loser franchises and ugly, worthless fans. The Cowboys will always be America's Team. Yesterday. Today. Tomorrow. Forever. Learn it, live it, love it. We don't even have to win we're so good.



Step into the light!

COWBOYS!!!!!!


Always an optimist.

The Cowboys will finish @ 9-7, just good enough to miss the playoffs.....

again


piacere - 8/10/2011 at 05:04 PM

85 wants to live with a fan during the first two, three weeks of the season, until he gets acclimated to the area. The person just needs to have the 'net and xbox, or something.

ummm, Chad. It's Foxboro. There's not much to get acclimated to.

get acclimated to running across the middle. 'k?


BIGV - 8/10/2011 at 05:11 PM

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85 wants to live with a fan during the first two, three weeks of the season, until he gets acclimated to the area. The person just needs to have the 'net and xbox, or something.

ummm, Chad. It's Foxboro. There's not much to get acclimated to.

get acclimated to running across the middle. 'k?


I for one would love to see Chad "acclimate" to the idea of keeping his mouth shut.


Lee - 8/10/2011 at 05:11 PM

Come on, offer him your couch and a cupboard full of stick em and he might pick you!


piacere - 8/10/2011 at 05:49 PM

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Come on, offer him your couch and a cupboard full of stick em and he might pick you!


I am only 35 miles or so from Gillette.

Problem is, I babysit my two grandkids occasionally.

A third kid'd drive me crazy.


Lee - 8/10/2011 at 06:18 PM

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Come on, offer him your couch and a cupboard full of stick em and he might pick you!


I am only 35 miles or so from Gillette.

Problem is, I babysit my two grandkids occasionally.

A third kid'd drive me crazy.



Hmm, what if you could get Randy Moss back and the two of them could spoon on the basement floor?


Bhawk - 8/10/2011 at 07:25 PM


nypeachhead - 8/10/2011 at 11:20 PM

Steve Smith signed with the Eagles. I think I am going to be sick. UGH!

Anyone but them


Sang - 8/11/2011 at 03:40 AM

Don't worry - they will find a way to lose........


piacere - 8/11/2011 at 12:18 PM

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Come on, offer him your couch and a cupboard full of stick em and he might pick you!


I am only 35 miles or so from Gillette.

Problem is, I babysit my two grandkids occasionally.

A third kid'd drive me crazy.



Hmm, what if you could get Randy Moss back and the two of them could spoon on the basement floor?


just the image of that conjures up too much potentially dangerous psychological scarring for both the grandkids and myself...

...I'll pass on that and let 85 find another place to hang...


Sang - 8/11/2011 at 01:35 PM


Lee - 8/11/2011 at 02:03 PM

Too bad the Bears field sucks so bad they had to cancel fan night and the lights went out at their practice field. Oh well.


DougMacKenzie - 8/11/2011 at 02:04 PM

Nobody really wants to see that mess anyway.


Sang - 8/11/2011 at 02:07 PM

The Monsters of the Midway will rise once again.................


spacemonkey - 8/11/2011 at 03:42 PM

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The Monsters of the Midway will rise once again.................



spacemonkey - 8/11/2011 at 03:44 PM

Monsters is the most interesting peoples


Bhawk - 8/11/2011 at 03:50 PM


michaelsio - 8/11/2011 at 04:02 PM

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The Monsters of the Midway will rise once again.................


"more like chipmunks.."


piacere - 8/11/2011 at 05:23 PM

"Monsters is the most interesting peoples"

I love quoting things like that.

MacKenzie's, "we don't even have to win we're so good" is still numero uno.

this thread is pretty cool.

Patriots tonight. Watch and learn...


Bhawk - 8/11/2011 at 05:27 PM

quote:
"Monsters is the most interesting peoples"

I love quoting things like that.

MacKenzie's, "we don't even have to win we're so good" is still numero uno.

this thread is pretty cool.

Patriots tonight. Watch and learn...


I actually wouldn't mind seeing that game. One of the Jax QBs went to Mizzou, lots of local interest.

Nationally televised is Seahawks-Chargers, though.


BIGV - 8/11/2011 at 06:59 PM

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The Monsters of the Midway will rise once again.................


You mean in this decade?...........Not with Cutler driving the bus



GO SAINTS!


gondicar - 8/11/2011 at 09:48 PM

Ok, I gotta get me one of these!

quote:


Lee - 8/11/2011 at 10:04 PM

quote:
"Monsters is the most interesting peoples"

I love quoting things like that.

MacKenzie's, "we don't even have to win we're so good" is still numero uno.

this thread is pretty cool.

Patriots tonight. Watch and learn...



Do the Patriots still have a team?


brofan - 8/11/2011 at 10:17 PM

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Cutler took more of a beating last year than most QBs take in a career. I'd like to see some of those armchair "experts" go out there and get asses beat game after game.

His toughness should NEVER be questioned.

Oh, and for all the Cutler haters who loved to repeat that BS that he's never had a winning season at any level - does winning the NFC North and making it to the NFL Championship Game count as a "winning season?"

Denver and Coach McDouchebag really had a GREAT season last year.


brofan - 8/11/2011 at 10:21 PM

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Steve Smith signed with the Eagles. I think I am going to be sick. UGH!

Anyone but them


No Andy Reid coached team will ever win the Super Bowl.

When your head coach is more concerned about maintaining "secrecy" and being right than he is with winning games, you'll never win it all.

Oh, and Michael Vick WILL wind up behind bars again. Don't know when, but he will.

Count on it.


Lee - 8/11/2011 at 10:25 PM

Not a fan of Cutler's at all. Having said that, I wouldn't want to get sacked EIGHT times in one half of a game. No wonder the Bears took an offensive lineman with their first pick.


brofan - 8/11/2011 at 10:25 PM

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The Monsters of the Midway will rise once again.................


You mean in this decade?...........Not with Cutler driving the bus



GO SAINTS!


Yeah, you're right - NOT.

He only took 'em to the NFC Championship Game last year - and if Urlacher hadn't fallen on his ass instead running in one of Rodgers' picks, the Bears would have won that game. It was the defense that let the Bears down, not Cutler. Anyone who says different didn't watch that game.


brofan - 8/11/2011 at 10:27 PM

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Not a fan of Cutler's at all. Having said that, I wouldn't want to get sacked EIGHT times in one half of a game. No wonder the Bears took an offensive lineman with their first pick.


Of course you're not - you're not a Bears fan. Duh....

He's a HELLUVA lot more durable than Stafford, who I like, but his body just can't take the pounding in the NFL.


brofan - 8/11/2011 at 10:29 PM

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Not a fan of Cutler's at all. Having said that, I wouldn't want to get sacked EIGHT times in one half of a game. No wonder the Bears took an offensive lineman with their first pick.


If the Bears had drafted just ONE starting OL in the past 5 years or so, they would have won the NFC last year. NOW they (hopefully) have a starting Left Tackle - that is, until they decide to have him change positions....


Lee - 8/11/2011 at 10:30 PM

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Not a fan of Cutler's at all. Having said that, I wouldn't want to get sacked EIGHT times in one half of a game. No wonder the Bears took an offensive lineman with their first pick.


Of course you're not - you're not a Bears fan. Duh....

He's a HELLUVA lot more durable than Stafford, who I like, but his body just can't take the pounding in the NFL.



We shall see my friend. Betcha the Lions have a better record than the Bears this year.


brofan - 8/11/2011 at 10:34 PM

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Not a fan of Cutler's at all. Having said that, I wouldn't want to get sacked EIGHT times in one half of a game. No wonder the Bears took an offensive lineman with their first pick.


Of course you're not - you're not a Bears fan. Duh....

He's a HELLUVA lot more durable than Stafford, who I like, but his body just can't take the pounding in the NFL.



We shall see my friend. Betcha the Lions have a better record than the Bears this year.


I'll take your action right now, Bro. $20.

Stafford will be out - again - by game 3. For the season.


Lee - 8/11/2011 at 10:43 PM

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Not a fan of Cutler's at all. Having said that, I wouldn't want to get sacked EIGHT times in one half of a game. No wonder the Bears took an offensive lineman with their first pick.


Of course you're not - you're not a Bears fan. Duh....

He's a HELLUVA lot more durable than Stafford, who I like, but his body just can't take the pounding in the NFL.



We shall see my friend. Betcha the Lions have a better record than the Bears this year.


I'll take your action right now, Bro. $20.

Stafford will be out - again - by game 3. For the season.



Done. Did the Bears trade their offensive line to the Lions?


brofan - 8/11/2011 at 10:56 PM

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Not a fan of Cutler's at all. Having said that, I wouldn't want to get sacked EIGHT times in one half of a game. No wonder the Bears took an offensive lineman with their first pick.


Of course you're not - you're not a Bears fan. Duh....

He's a HELLUVA lot more durable than Stafford, who I like, but his body just can't take the pounding in the NFL.



We shall see my friend. Betcha the Lions have a better record than the Bears this year.


I'll take your action right now, Bro. $20.

Stafford will be out - again - by game 3. For the season.



Done. Did the Bears trade their offensive line to the Lions?


If the could get ANYTHING for their pathetic OL, they should take it. But I doubt any team is that dumb. Angelo ignored the #1 rule for winning a championship (per Coach Ditka), which is YOU GOTTA PROTECT YOUR QUARTERBACK. Ditka used to say that over and over and over....dumbass Argelo drafted a DL first or second in just about every draft since he became GM and maybe 3 of 'em are still in the NFL. Most of 'em got cut or are out of the NFL now. The only decent one they had they gave away for nothing, Alex Brown, who was a class act a very underrated player.

I will say that Mike Tice got about as much out of the OL last year as could be hoped for. They were playing pretty well by the end of the season, but their talent level sucks....they finally got rid of Kreutz, though. He had more illegal procedure penalties and just flat out dumbass aggressive penalties last year he had to go. He's been over the hill for a couple of years now.

If Carimi is as good as advertised on the left side, Cutler will have a breakthrough year and the Bears'll be tough.

God, I wish they would go out and get a real NFL receiver,though.


brofan - 8/11/2011 at 11:21 PM

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Not a fan of Cutler's at all. Having said that, I wouldn't want to get sacked EIGHT times in one half of a game. No wonder the Bears took an offensive lineman with their first pick.


If the Bears had drafted just ONE starting OL in the past 5 years or so, they would have won the NFC last year. NOW they (hopefully) have a starting Left Tackle - that is, until they decide to have him change positions....


I cannot believe it....yes, I can. As I just predicted, the Bears, in their INFINITE wisdom, have decided to convert Gabe Carimi, THE prototypical Left Tackle, and exactly what they needed to protect Cutler's blind side, to RIGHT tackle.

They just repeat the same dumb mistakes over....and over.....and over....and over....


BIGV - 8/12/2011 at 12:27 AM

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He only took 'em to the NFC Championship Game last year


Hahaha.... When the team wins, the QB "takes" them...You can have Cutler!


Peachypetewi - 8/12/2011 at 12:40 AM

Cutler came into camp in the best shape of his life. He's one tough sob. He's not going to be running for his life on every pass play and is poised to have a great year. The Bears O-line will definitely be much better. I like putting 6'8" 333 pound Webb at LT. Carimi isn't as athletic as Webb so RT is where he belongs. The Bears beefed up their D-line and will be pressuring the opposing QB much more then last year. At 6'7" with a 40 inch vertical leap Kellen Davis will be everything Greg Olsen wasn't that is a big strong physical red zone target. The division title battle will be between GB and the Bears again. Detroit still needs defensive secondary help and Stafford is a china doll. The Vikings are the cellar dwellers.


BIGV - 8/12/2011 at 12:43 AM

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Stafford is a china doll. The Vikings are the cellar dwellers.


Agreed.

But still, there is a "This is our year" Super Bowl optimism in all 32 camps....


brofan - 8/12/2011 at 12:53 AM

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He only took 'em to the NFC Championship Game last year


Hahaha.... When the team wins, the QB "takes" them...You can have Cutler!



How many other QBs have gone to the championship round with no OL, no legit NFL receivers, a tight end that either could not or would not block, and took more sacks than any other QB in recent memory? Name one.

Did you also know he was a diabetic? Do you know how tough you have to be to have diabetes and play QB in the NFL?

The problem you guys have in SD is that idiot you have for a head coach. He has failed miserably in every head coaching job (which he should have never been hired for) and yet he keeps getting hired again and again, and then winds up running every team he's coached into the ground. LT was done, right? Nope.

If you didn't have Philip Rivers (NC State grad) Turner would have (and should have) been fired 2 years ago.


WharfRat - 8/12/2011 at 01:44 AM

Boys boys boys... tisk tisk tisk



Get back to me when your pitiful franchise catches up.


BIGV - 8/12/2011 at 01:53 AM

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He only took 'em to the NFC Championship Game last year


Hahaha.... When the team wins, the QB "takes" them...You can have Cutler!



How many other QBs have gone to the championship round with no OL, no legit NFL receivers, a tight end that either could not or would not block, and took more sacks than any other QB in recent memory? Name one.

Did you also know he was a diabetic? Do you know how tough you have to be to have diabetes and play QB in the NFL?

The problem you guys have in SD is that idiot you have for a head coach. He has failed miserably in every head coaching job (which he should have never been hired for) and yet he keeps getting hired again and again, and then winds up running every team he's coached into the ground. LT was done, right? Nope.

If you didn't have Philip Rivers (NC State grad) Turner would have (and should have) been fired 2 years ago.


All fine and dandy. I'll take Rivers and you keep Cutler.............Done and done.


piacere - 8/12/2011 at 11:59 AM

if we didn't have Brady, I'd take Rivers too. Third best QB in the league, IMO.


Lee - 8/12/2011 at 01:10 PM

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if we didn't have Brady, I'd take Rivers too. Third best QB in the league, IMO.



Behind Mathew Stafford?


piacere - 8/12/2011 at 02:49 PM

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if we didn't have Brady, I'd take Rivers too. Third best QB in the league, IMO.



Behind Mathew Stafford?


no. Warren Haynes. wiseass.


Lee - 8/12/2011 at 03:24 PM

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if we didn't have Brady, I'd take Rivers too. Third best QB in the league, IMO.



Behind Mathew Stafford?


no. Warren Haynes. wiseass.



I've been studying a lot of film lately of Warren and I think the major flaw in his game is the inability to scramble out of the pocket.


IPowrie - 8/12/2011 at 04:50 PM

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Stafford is a china doll. The Vikings are the cellar dwellers.


Agreed.

But still, there is a "This is our year" Super Bowl optimism in all 32 camps....


I disagree with Stafford as a china doll but I bet you were all saying the same thing about Troy Aikman after his first two years


piacere - 8/12/2011 at 04:54 PM

I get the feeling sometimes that around here, a lot of you slackers take Friday afternoon's off and go to remote areas in your respective communities and wail in misery, weep in despair, tremble with fright and bemoan the fact that the mighty Patriots are who they are, an unstoppable force of greatness and glory.

don't let it ruin your weekend.


Sang - 8/12/2011 at 04:58 PM

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Stafford is a china doll. The Vikings are the cellar dwellers.


Agreed.

But still, there is a "This is our year" Super Bowl optimism in all 32 camps....


I disagree with Stafford as a china doll but I bet you were all saying the same thing about Troy Aikman after his first two years




The announcer?


Sang - 8/12/2011 at 04:59 PM

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I get the feeling sometimes that around here, a lot of you slackers take Friday afternoon's off and go to remote areas in your respective communities and wail in misery, weep in despair, tremble with fright and bemoan the fact that the mighty Patriots are who they are, an unstoppable force of greatness and glory.

don't let it ruin your weekend.



We're just trying to make sure they aren't videotaping us........


Bhawk - 8/12/2011 at 06:26 PM

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Cutler took more of a beating last year than most QBs take in a career. I'd like to see some of those armchair "experts" go out there and get asses beat game after game.

His toughness should NEVER be questioned.

Oh, and for all the Cutler haters who loved to repeat that BS that he's never had a winning season at any level - does winning the NFC North and making it to the NFL Championship Game count as a "winning season?"

Denver and Coach McDouchebag really had a GREAT season last year.




All in fun...


DanB - 8/12/2011 at 07:45 PM

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Boys boys boys... tisk tisk tisk



Get back to me when your pitiful franchise catches up.



Chuck, the "boys" will have to finish their slap and tickle fight first


spacemonkey - 8/12/2011 at 07:55 PM

Vick and the eagles looked pretty sharp last night.

So did Hokie Tyrod Taylor. He may win the backup job to Vick.

Probably helped having Vick around to help him learn the offense, he could explain it to
Tyrod as how it related to the offense they ran at VT.



[Edited on 8/12/2011 by spacemonkey]


Lee - 8/12/2011 at 08:50 PM

You guys can call Stafford dainty or whatever but do you recall the game last year when his shoulder was separated, they took him out for one play (cuz they had to) and he ran back out on the field and threw a TD pass?

I think he was done after that. Sounds pretty tough to me.


IPowrie - 8/12/2011 at 10:25 PM

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You guys can call Stafford dainty or whatever but do you recall the game last year when his shoulder was separated, they took him out for one play (cuz they had to) and he ran back out on the field and threw a TD pass?

I think he was done after that. Sounds pretty tough to me.


That was his rookie season and he didnt sit out a play Cleveland called a timeout so he went back in and threw the game winning TD. But still pretty tough. Was in the library working on a paper during that game and I saw they won I let out a really loud hell yeah


DougMacKenzie - 8/13/2011 at 10:50 AM

Girls, girls, girls. Sit down, pour yourselves a cup of tea, and pay attention as Red Jesus leads the Cowboys back to the promised land in a whole new era of greatness and glory. You can't stop it, so no use fretting about how your pathetic little franchises are goinna compete for being the tallest of the seven dwarfs. The Mighty Star has returned to ascend the heights of victory and honor.

COWBOYS!!!!!!


Sang - 8/13/2011 at 03:35 PM

I see Dug has been into the fairy tales again.......


DanB - 8/13/2011 at 03:54 PM

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I see Dug has been into the fairy tales again.......


or some real good weed


WharfRat - 8/13/2011 at 11:36 PM

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Girls, girls, girls. Sit down, pour yourselves a cup of tea, and pay attention as Red Jesus leads the Cowboys back to the promised land in a whole new era of greatness and glory. You can't stop it, so no use fretting about how your pathetic little franchises are goinna compete for being the tallest of the seven dwarfs. The Mighty Star has returned to ascend the heights of victory and honor.

COWBOYS!!!!!!


Bro, I am so sorry to see that you have lost your freaking mind
My condolances
So sad






BoytonBrother - 8/14/2011 at 12:31 AM

I saw the title of the thread say "no reason to get excited".....well, it is is you're an Eagles fan. GO BIRDS!!! And I want to kill Vince Young for calling us the Dream Team when they haven't won anything, ever.....but ya gotta love our chances. Now with D-Jack back in action, the only thing to fix is Maclin. Lets hope he's healthy. Very strange that they won't disclose his illness. I'm still just so happy we don't have to put up with McNabb anymore. We finally have a real QB.


brofan - 8/14/2011 at 03:16 AM

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He only took 'em to the NFC Championship Game last year


Hahaha.... When the team wins, the QB "takes" them...You can have Cutler!



How many other QBs have gone to the championship round with no OL, no legit NFL receivers, a tight end that either could not or would not block, and took more sacks than any other QB in recent memory? Name one.

Did you also know he was a diabetic? Do you know how tough you have to be to have diabetes and play QB in the NFL?

The problem you guys have in SD is that idiot you have for a head coach. He has failed miserably in every head coaching job (which he should have never been hired for) and yet he keeps getting hired again and again, and then winds up running every team he's coached into the ground. LT was done, right? Nope.

If you didn't have Philip Rivers (NC State grad) Turner would have (and should have) been fired 2 years ago.


All fine and dandy. I'll take Rivers and you keep Cutler.............Done and done.



I didn't say I wouldn't prefer Rivers - I've always been a Rivers fan. But I like our guy. His biggest sin is not kissing the press's ass. Imagine that.


brofan - 8/14/2011 at 03:18 AM

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Stafford is a china doll. The Vikings are the cellar dwellers.


Agreed.

But still, there is a "This is our year" Super Bowl optimism in all 32 camps....


I disagree with Stafford as a china doll but I bet you were all saying the same thing about Troy Aikman after his first two years


Aikman never missed a game his first 2 years in the league, to my recollection. He took the worst beating I've ever seen a rookie take and I don't think he missed a snap all season.

That guy was one tough SOB. Great QB and leader.


brofan - 8/14/2011 at 03:23 AM

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Cutler took more of a beating last year than most QBs take in a career. I'd like to see some of those armchair "experts" go out there and get asses beat game after game.

His toughness should NEVER be questioned.

Oh, and for all the Cutler haters who loved to repeat that BS that he's never had a winning season at any level - does winning the NFC North and making it to the NFL Championship Game count as a "winning season?"

Denver and Coach McDouchebag really had a GREAT season last year.




All in fun...


I know. And it is fun....when he kicks the asses of all of his naysayers - like Maurice Jones-Drew, who refused to play the last 2 games of the season, when his team needed him - and they missed the playoffs, so he was sitting on his fat ass on his couch WATCHING while Cutler had a Grade 2 MCL tear in the FIRST half, and STILL came out and tried to play in the second half.

But as MJD said, Cutler is a quitter. Excuse me, WHICH guy quit in his team?


brofan - 8/14/2011 at 03:25 AM

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You guys can call Stafford dainty or whatever but do you recall the game last year when his shoulder was separated, they took him out for one play (cuz they had to) and he ran back out on the field and threw a TD pass?

I think he was done after that. Sounds pretty tough to me.


I never said he was dainty, nor did I imply that he wasn't tough or didn't have guts - that play you are talking about made me a fan of him for as long as he plays in the NFL. Which unfortunately will be short because his body just cannot take the pounding in the NFL.

He will be the next Chad Pennington.


brofan - 8/14/2011 at 03:28 AM

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I saw the title of the thread say "no reason to get excited".....well, it is is you're an Eagles fan. GO BIRDS!!! And I want to kill Vince Young for calling us the Dream Team when they haven't won anything, ever.....but ya gotta love our chances. Now with D-Jack back in action, the only thing to fix is Maclin. Lets hope he's healthy. Very strange that they won't disclose his illness. I'm still just so happy we don't have to put up with McNabb anymore. We finally have a real QB.


Too bad the Iggles will never win a SB as long as Andy Reid is their HC....


Lee - 8/14/2011 at 04:22 PM

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You guys can call Stafford dainty or whatever but do you recall the game last year when his shoulder was separated, they took him out for one play (cuz they had to) and he ran back out on the field and threw a TD pass?

I think he was done after that. Sounds pretty tough to me.


I never said he was dainty, nor did I imply that he wasn't tough or didn't have guts - that play you are talking about made me a fan of him for as long as he plays in the NFL. Which unfortunately will be short because his body just cannot take the pounding in the NFL.

He will be the next Chad Pennington.



Okay Skip Bayless.


Lee - 8/14/2011 at 04:38 PM

Rich, remember the night we were in our room in Rosemont after the ABB show and the news showed that Rex Grossman got hurt in that pre-season game?

I seriously thought you were going to cry.


chucklehead - 8/14/2011 at 06:09 PM

I only have one thing to say...LET'S GO BUFFALO!!!!


BoytonBrother - 8/14/2011 at 08:43 PM

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Too bad the Iggles will never win a SB as long as Andy Reid is their HC....


I know he's made some horrible decisions in the past, but like I said earlier, look who he had to deal with as his QB for 10 years. Now that we have someone who can play, with some explosive wideouts, and an excellent Defense, I'm very excited for this team. Andy Reid got to 5 NFC championship games without any real talent.

[Edited on 8/14/2011 by BoytonBrother]


Peachypetewi - 8/14/2011 at 08:50 PM

Suh with another personal foul last night. He's well on his way to gaining a reputation as a dirty player. That really is too bad, he's really talented and shouldn't have to resort to those tactics.


IPowrie - 8/15/2011 at 12:38 AM

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Suh with another personal foul last night. He's well on his way to gaining a reputation as a dirty player. That really is too bad, he's really talented and shouldn't have to resort to those tactics.


Jim Schwartz said it best about him with "it just looks bad". He got a few calls against him that were questionable like when he pulled Marion Barbers hair (if u want it that long u run the risk of it being grabbed) and when he shoved Jay Cutler to the ground. But he is not a dirty player far from it cant help it that he doesnt stop till the whistle blows


IPowrie - 8/15/2011 at 12:52 AM

I agree with this guy on Suh

http://detnews.com/article/20110813/OPINION03/108130400/Ndamukong-Suh-s-hit -on-Bengals%E2%80%99-Andy-Dalton-hardly-dirty

Suh maybe my favorite player in the NFL right now. My favorite play maybe the fumble recovery against the Redskins which he returned for a touchdown


Lee - 8/15/2011 at 10:04 AM

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Suh with another personal foul last night. He's well on his way to gaining a reputation as a dirty player. That really is too bad, he's really talented and shouldn't have to resort to those tactics.


He's not a dirty player as you alluded to. See IP's post. We only need one overreacting Roger Godell.


Peachypetewi - 8/15/2011 at 10:45 AM

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Suh with another personal foul last night. He's well on his way to gaining a reputation as a dirty player. That really is too bad, he's really talented and shouldn't have to resort to those tactics.


He's not a dirty player as you alluded to. See IP's post. We only need one overreacting Roger Godell.




On the replay I saw in the Casino in Escanaba which was overdubbed with the Detroit radio announcers both saying he better watch himself that he's going to get a bad reputation if he's not more careful .


piacere - 8/15/2011 at 12:13 PM

wow.

Last time I heard this much idle banter and aimless gossip was the women standing around the water cooler discussing hair color, manicures and handbags...

Listen to me now and believe me later, you wandering camel jockeys...

PATRIOTS !!!!!!


Lee - 8/15/2011 at 12:53 PM

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wow.

Last time I heard this much idle banter and aimless gossip was the women standing around the water cooler discussing hair color, manicures and handbags...





Isn't this what you call 8:00 AM five days a week? Which of the three did you order?


Lee - 8/15/2011 at 01:09 PM

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Suh with another personal foul last night. He's well on his way to gaining a reputation as a dirty player. That really is too bad, he's really talented and shouldn't have to resort to those tactics.


He's not a dirty player as you alluded to. See IP's post. We only need one overreacting Roger Godell.




On the replay I saw in the Casino in Escanaba which was overdubbed with the Detroit radio announcers both saying he better watch himself that he's going to get a bad reputation if he's not more careful .



What tactics are you referring to Pete? Being an aggressive football player?

I didn't hear the feed but I will give you the fact that he does indeed need to watch himself. Which sucks. He might get a bad rep which could lead to a suspension which would be too bad.

I've watched every game he has played in the NFL and his last two two years in college. He's aggressive, not dirty.


DanB - 8/15/2011 at 01:13 PM

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wow.

Last time I heard this much idle banter and aimless gossip was the women standing around the water cooler discussing hair color, manicures and handbags...

Listen to me now and believe me later, you wandering camel jockeys...

AVON !!!!!!


Lee - 8/15/2011 at 01:20 PM

Patriots fans are funny creatures. Almost as bad as wimmens.


nypeachhead - 8/15/2011 at 06:53 PM

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Suh with another personal foul last night. He's well on his way to gaining a reputation as a dirty player. That really is too bad, he's really talented and shouldn't have to resort to those tactics.


He's not a dirty player as you alluded to. See IP's post. We only need one overreacting Roger Godell.




On the replay I saw in the Casino in Escanaba which was overdubbed with the Detroit radio announcers both saying he better watch himself that he's going to get a bad reputation if he's not more careful .



What tactics are you referring to Pete? Being an aggressive football player?

I didn't hear the feed but I will give you the fact that he does indeed need to watch himself. Which sucks. He might get a bad rep which could lead to a suspension which would be too bad.

I've watched every game he has played in the NFL and his last two two years in college. He's aggressive, not dirty.



Suspend him!! He was fined twice last yr and now this. He is as dirty and any of them!! What have u been watching Lee???LOL!

MSNBC
Suh says he’s not a dirty player
Posted by Michael David Smith on August 15, 2011, 8:03 AM EDT

APAfter Lions defensive tackle Ndamukong Suh roughed up Bengals quarterback Andy Dalton in the preseason opener, I asked whether Suh is a dirty player.

Unsurprisingly, Suh says he’s not.

“There’s always a fine line between dirtiness and aggressiveness,” Suh said. “I know to this point, in my own heart, I haven’t crossed that line by any means.”

Suh was fined twice last year, for hits on Browns quarterback Jake Delhomme and Bears quarterback Jay Cutler, and he’ll likely be fined for his hit on Dalton. Lions veteran defensive tackle Corey Williams said he’s worried that Suh may be in the crosshairs of the league office.

“They are going to have it out for him now,” Williams said.

But Suh plans to keep playing the way he’s been playing.

“It’s the reason people play football; aggression is the name of the sport,” Suh said. “It means being violent and being very aggressive and getting after the quarterback. That’s what you are known for. That’s what you do. If you didn’t do that then I don’t think you’d be playing football in the NFL. . . . That’s the way I’ve been taught and that’s the way I will continue to play.”

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Sang - 8/15/2011 at 07:25 PM

It's a clean hit when it is from one of your players.......

He's a dirty player when the hit is against one of your players......


It's a whiff if Tony Romo is your holder........


Lee - 8/15/2011 at 07:48 PM

I would be the first to say hey, that was a dirty hit regardless of the team if I thought it really was.

Dave, look at the plays he was fined for last year and tell me how dirty the plays were. You really can't just say, "oh he was fined, I guess he is guilty". I am glad that they are trying to make the game safer but I see why some players hate the system.

Instant replay is an amazing thing.


nypeachhead - 8/15/2011 at 08:09 PM

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I would be the first to say hey, that was a dirty hit regardless of the team if I thought it really was.

Dave, look at the plays he was fined for last year and tell me how dirty the plays were. You really can't just say, "oh he was fined, I guess he is guilty". I am glad that they are trying to make the game safer but I see why some players hate the system.

Instant replay is an amazing thing.


Honestly Lee I saw the ariticle and posted it to bust chops. Football is a contact sport and things happen. I personally think its gotten too ridiculous with all the rules.


Lee - 8/15/2011 at 09:27 PM

You talk funny.


WharfRat - 8/16/2011 at 12:35 AM

Sure hope this witchhunt of Suh continues..

Maybe he will take the spotlight off my boy Harrison


IPowrie - 8/16/2011 at 02:13 AM

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Sure hope this witchhunt of Suh continues..

Maybe he will take the spotlight off my boy Harrison


I thought he retired


brofan - 8/16/2011 at 02:29 AM

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Rich, remember the night we were in our room in Rosemont after the ABB show and the news showed that Rex Grossman got hurt in that pre-season game?

I seriously thought you were going to cry.


Why? I've hated Rex the dumbass as long as he's been in the NFL. He is, no lie, THE STUPIDEST man to ever play QB in the history of the NFL. Watch him in an interview - the guy can BARELY put together a coherent sentence verbally.

I was really pissed when they started him in the playoffs that year instead of Orton, who won 9 games as a rookie. Real smart - you sit the guy down who GOT you to the playoffs for a guy who hadn't played since the preseason. And of course, the Bears lost.

Typical Chicago Bears (non) logic....


brofan - 8/16/2011 at 02:30 AM

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Suh with another personal foul last night. He's well on his way to gaining a reputation as a dirty player. That really is too bad, he's really talented and shouldn't have to resort to those tactics.


Jim Schwartz said it best about him with "it just looks bad". He got a few calls against him that were questionable like when he pulled Marion Barbers hair (if u want it that long u run the risk of it being grabbed) and when he shoved Jay Cutler to the ground. But he is not a dirty player far from it cant help it that he doesnt stop till the whistle blows [/quote

I'll take that kind of dirty player on my team any day of the week.


brofan - 8/16/2011 at 02:32 AM

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Sure hope this witchhunt of Suh continues..

Maybe he will take the spotlight off my boy Harrison


I thought he retired


LMFAO!

Good one, Isaac....


IPowrie - 8/16/2011 at 02:46 AM

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Rich, remember the night we were in our room in Rosemont after the ABB show and the news showed that Rex Grossman got hurt in that pre-season game?

I seriously thought you were going to cry.


Why? I've hated Rex the dumbass as long as he's been in the NFL. He is, no lie, THE STUPIDEST man to ever play QB in the history of the NFL. Watch him in an interview - the guy can BARELY put together a coherent sentence verbally.

I was really pissed when they started him in the playoffs that year instead of Orton, who won 9 games as a rookie. Real smart - you sit the guy down who GOT you to the playoffs for a guy who hadn't played since the preseason. And of course, the Bears lost.

Typical Chicago Bears (non) logic....


Dan Orlovsky I think holds that title for running out of the endzone for a safety


brofan - 8/16/2011 at 02:49 AM

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Rich, remember the night we were in our room in Rosemont after the ABB show and the news showed that Rex Grossman got hurt in that pre-season game?

I seriously thought you were going to cry.


Why? I've hated Rex the dumbass as long as he's been in the NFL. He is, no lie, THE STUPIDEST man to ever play QB in the history of the NFL. Watch him in an interview - the guy can BARELY put together a coherent sentence verbally.

I was really pissed when they started him in the playoffs that year instead of Orton, who won 9 games as a rookie. Real smart - you sit the guy down who GOT you to the playoffs for a guy who hadn't played since the preseason. And of course, the Bears lost.

Typical Chicago Bears (non) logic....


Dan Orlovsky I think holds that title for running out of the endzone for a safety


Well, when Sexy Rexy said that the reason he lost the last game of the season was because he was "thinking about New Year's Eve", that's pretty tough to beat....even if you were, WHY tell that to the press?


spacemonkey - 8/16/2011 at 04:37 AM

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I see Dug has been into the tumble weed again.......


spacemonkey - 8/16/2011 at 04:40 AM

I guess the giants what Eli to me more versatile

His top receiver was Steve Smith, so they let the dirty bird eagles snatch him away.


WharfRat - 8/16/2011 at 09:13 AM

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quote:
Sure hope this witchhunt of Suh continues..

Maybe he will take the spotlight off my boy Harrison


I thought he retired


Opposing QBs just wish he did


fensranger - 8/16/2011 at 03:50 PM

Not sure what direction Big Blue is heading. Clearly their decisions have been unpredicatable and it seems that they are in a rebuild process. One thing i will say is that the Giants have a great organization and always seem competitive so we shall see. On paper this years team IMO will at best go 500. I cannot see them in the mix.


Lee - 8/16/2011 at 05:17 PM

Rich, you about had a coronary when Grossman got hurt. Ah the memory does funny things to a person.


Lee - 8/16/2011 at 05:19 PM

It was as if the Bears lost Sid Luckman. You were in your 30s back then, right?


piacere - 8/16/2011 at 06:00 PM

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It was as if the Bears lost Sid Luckman. You were in your 30s back then, right?


when the Bears were looking at my father, he (my father) worked out with Sid Luckman.

my father...the stories he would tell me about playing ball at Notre Dame...no face mask, Coach Leahy, the Heisman winners he played with...cool stuff.


fensranger - 8/16/2011 at 06:01 PM

Luckman attended my high school Erasmus Hall in Brooklyn NY however he was way ahead of my time.


Sang - 8/16/2011 at 06:39 PM

I actually got to meet Sid Luckman, and had breakfast with him in his condo on Lake Shore Drive. His company did business with my brother-in-law's company. My bro-in-law had tickets to all the home Bears games the year the Bears won the Super Bowl - I got to go with him to most of those games.... I also got to go to a party at the penthouse of his building for one of the Monday Night games. He was very friendly and loved to give people gifts.


spacemonkey - 8/16/2011 at 08:30 PM

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Not sure what direction Big Blue is heading. Clearly their decisions have been unpredicatable and it seems that they are in a rebuild process. One thing i will say is that the Giants have a great organization and always seem competitive so we shall see. On paper this years team IMO will at best go 500. I cannot see them in the mix.


Remember how Simms nearly got killed when Parcells first put together the offensive line that would eventually win the Superbowl in 87. He eventually broke his thumb on a DT helmet in his face near the end of the year and we got Scott Bruner in his place for a year.
ugh!

I think Eli will face that same onslaught this year. Watch him break the team interception record he set last year. If he doesn't get killed.

I think 500 is optimistic

Expect David Carr to play this season.

I think they were forced into rebuilding by the new cap rules.




Lee - 8/17/2011 at 07:21 AM

Nice comments about Luckman. I could tell you stories about the Lions last great QB, Bobby Layne, but they wouldn't be too flatering.


DougMacKenzie - 8/17/2011 at 11:41 AM

It's awful quiet out at Valley Ranch.....not a good sing for all you name droppin' wannabes. Tremble in fear as Red Jesus plots your destruction. Doomsday is coming!

COWBOYS!!!!!!


Lee - 8/17/2011 at 01:25 PM

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It's awful quiet out at Valley Ranch.....not a good sing for all you name droppin' wannabes. Tremble in fear as Red Jesus plots your destruction. Doomsday is coming!

COWBOYS!!!!!!



Thanks for the 1, 3 and 6 round draft picks for Roy Williams. How is that working out for you?


sonnystang - 8/17/2011 at 01:30 PM

I think the heat is getting to Doug.................send him some rain........

Be careful of the Bucs.........


Lee - 8/17/2011 at 01:46 PM

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I think the heat is getting to Doug.................send him some rain........

Be careful of the Bucs.........




Agree about the Bucs. How the hell does a league let a team go 10 and 6 and not make the playoffs when a 7 and 9 team does? Sheesh...


IPowrie - 8/17/2011 at 01:48 PM

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I think the heat is getting to Doug.................send him some rain........

Be careful of the Bucs.........




Agree about the Bucs. How the hell does a league let a team go 10 and 6 and not make the playoffs when a 7 and 9 team does? Sheesh...


Other team won there division. Seattle proved they belonged by beating the Saints


Bhawk - 8/17/2011 at 01:53 PM

Alright! This week's preseason matchups includezzzzzzzzzzzZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ


Lee - 8/17/2011 at 01:57 PM

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I think the heat is getting to Doug.................send him some rain........

Be careful of the Bucs.........




Agree about the Bucs. How the hell does a league let a team go 10 and 6 and not make the playoffs when a 7 and 9 team does? Sheesh...


Other team won there division. Seattle proved they belonged by beating the Saints



There? Where?? Oh, there!


fensranger - 8/17/2011 at 02:55 PM

what are the expectations for Dez Bryant this season. He looked like he could be a great player.


DougMacKenzie - 8/17/2011 at 04:23 PM

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what are the expectations for Dez Bryant this season. He looked like he could be a great player.


Expectations are mixed, only because no one is exactly sure how straight his head is screwed on. If he gets that part right he could be truly great. If not........


piacere - 8/17/2011 at 04:30 PM

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what are the expectations for Dez Bryant this season. He looked like he could be a great player.


Expectations are mixed, only because no one is exactly sure how straight his head is screwed on. If he gets that part right he could be truly great. If not........


if not...he gets traded to New England, taught the Patriot Way, becomes a superstar


Sang - 8/17/2011 at 04:46 PM

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what are the expectations for Dez Bryant this season. He looked like he could be a great player.


Expectations are mixed, only because no one is exactly sure how straight his head is screwed on. If he gets that part right he could be truly great. If not........


if not...he gets traded to New England, taught the Patriot Way, becomes a cheater


Lee - 8/17/2011 at 06:17 PM

Bryant is a star waiting to be developed. Guy is a stud.


piacere - 8/17/2011 at 06:29 PM

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Bryant is a star waiting to be developed. Guy is a stud.


if he had a Brady or Rivers or Manning (Peyton) throwing him the ball, he'd be off the charts...

sorry Doug.


Lee - 8/17/2011 at 06:50 PM

Ever met Brady? He's an a-hole. And this comes from a Meeechigan man!


BIGV - 8/17/2011 at 07:25 PM

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what are the expectations for Dez Bryant this season. He looked like he could be a great player.


Expectations?...Ha!....Who knows; if only he had a really talented QB throwing him the pigskin.


BIGV - 8/17/2011 at 07:26 PM

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I guess the giants what Eli to me more versatile


I think they would consider fewer interceptions a good start.


fensranger - 8/17/2011 at 08:50 PM

Lots of questions on the O Line for the G Men!!!


brofan - 8/18/2011 at 04:35 AM

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Rich, you about had a coronary when Grossman got hurt. Ah the memory does funny things to a person.


He was an unknown quantity then.

Now he is a known quantity - that SUCKS. Big time.

Grossman and Shanahan? And 'Skins fans thought McNabb and Mike S. were like oil and water....they ain't seen NOTHING yet, if Rex Focking Grossman (as he liked to call himself during some of his drunken stupors in Chicago) is their starting QB.

I can't WAIT!


brofan - 8/18/2011 at 04:35 AM

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Nice comments about Luckman. I could tell you stories about the Lions last great QB, Bobby Layne, but they wouldn't be too flatering.


Layne also played for Da Bears....


brofan - 8/18/2011 at 04:37 AM

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Luckman attended my high school Erasmus Hall in Brooklyn NY however he was way ahead of my time.


One of the few Jewish QBs in NFL history. He had to be smart to decipher the T Formation back then.


brofan - 8/18/2011 at 04:38 AM

quote:
quote:
Not sure what direction Big Blue is heading. Clearly their decisions have been unpredicatable and it seems that they are in a rebuild process. One thing i will say is that the Giants have a great organization and always seem competitive so we shall see. On paper this years team IMO will at best go 500. I cannot see them in the mix.


Remember how Simms nearly got killed when Parcells first put together the offensive line that would eventually win the Superbowl in 87. He eventually broke his thumb on a DT helmet in his face near the end of the year and we got Scott Bruner in his place for a year.
ugh!

I think Eli will face that same onslaught this year. Watch him break the team interception record he set last year. If he doesn't get killed.

I think 500 is optimistic

Expect David Carr to play this season.

I think they were forced into rebuilding by the new cap rules.






David Carr is TERRIBLE. He couldn't even start - or stick - in Carolina. And they were 2-14 last year.


brofan - 8/18/2011 at 04:40 AM

quote:
quote:
It's awful quiet out at Valley Ranch.....not a good sing for all you name droppin' wannabes. Tremble in fear as Red Jesus plots your destruction. Doomsday is coming!

COWBOYS!!!!!!



Thanks for the 1, 3 and 6 round draft picks for Roy Williams. How is that working out for you?


Probably about as good as RW will work out for the Bears. God, what a stupid deal.


brofan - 8/18/2011 at 04:41 AM

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Ever met Brady? He's an a-hole. And this comes from a Meeechigan man!


Nice guys finish last.

Remember?


Lee - 8/18/2011 at 06:09 AM

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Ever met Brady? He's an a-hole. And this comes from a Meeechigan man!


Nice guys finish last.

Remember?




No my name is Lee, not Leo Durocher.


Lee - 8/18/2011 at 06:11 AM

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Rich, you about had a coronary when Grossman got hurt. Ah the memory does funny things to a person.


He was an unknown quantity then.

Now he is a known quantity - that SUCKS. Big time.

Grossman and Shanahan? And 'Skins fans thought McNabb and Mike S. were like oil and water....they ain't seen NOTHING yet, if Rex Focking Grossman (as he liked to call himself during some of his drunken stupors in Chicago) is their starting QB.

I can't WAIT!




You were almost in tears when he got hurt that night. Just saying pal.


piacere - 8/18/2011 at 12:22 PM

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Ever met Brady? He's an a-hole. And this comes from a Meeechigan man!


maybe you caught him at a bad time? Like after a Jets game?

We all have our moods. I'm not defending the guy at all, maybe he is an a-hole. I'd imagine star status, from throwin' a freakin' football no less,(an issue we've discussed here before) can turn some people into something they think is better than the rest of us.

Who knows or cares? Throw the ball to an open guy, that's all I care about with this dude.


Brendan - 8/18/2011 at 12:25 PM

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what are the expectations for Dez Bryant this season. He looked like he could be a great player.
He'll catch a lot of passes from Jon Kitna.


Bhawk - 8/18/2011 at 02:25 PM

The Terrell Pryor NCAA suspension is being carried over to the NFL????!?!?!?!!???

Goodell is a piece of work.

[Edited on 8/18/2011 by Bhawk]


piacere - 8/18/2011 at 03:41 PM

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The Terrell Pryor NCAA suspension is being carried over to the NFL????!?!?!?!!???

Goodell is a piece of work.

[Edited on 8/18/2011 by Bhawk]


5 games, really not a big deal, he wouldn't play anyway but punish the dude for a college infraction? makes no sense at all.


fensranger - 8/18/2011 at 04:01 PM

it is a joke, football is a business, these are the pros the NFL judging a college kid. LOL


DanB - 8/18/2011 at 04:13 PM

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The Terrell Pryor NCAA suspension is being carried over to the NFL????!?!?!?!!???

Goodell is a piece of work.

[Edited on 8/18/2011 by Bhawk]


it's a ruse he needs time to learn the playbook before taking over for Matt Cassell


BIGV - 8/18/2011 at 07:12 PM

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The Terrell Pryor NCAA suspension is being carried over to the NFL????!?!?!?!!??



Yeah, yeah...he probably isn't even good enough to stay on a NFL roster.


BIGV - 8/18/2011 at 07:14 PM

Dear Seattle Seahawks fan:

OK, you kicked our butts last year in the playoffs, but at least we don't have Tavares Jackson as our QB.

Yours truly,
New Orleans Saints fan


fensranger - 8/18/2011 at 07:21 PM

i am still trying to figure out how the Seahawks beat the Saints last year. Only explanation is "thats why they play the game"!!!!! Hard to fathom/


brofan - 8/18/2011 at 09:03 PM

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The Terrell Pryor NCAA suspension is being carried over to the NFL????!?!?!?!!??



Yeah, yeah...he probably isn't even good enough to stay on a NFL roster.


He isn't.

The most overrated college QB since Jimmy (Talk about an A-hole) Clausen.

But then overrating and Ohio State go together like ham and cheese.....including their basketball teams.


WharfRat - 8/18/2011 at 09:04 PM

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The Terrell Pryor NCAA suspension is being carried over to the NFL????!?!?!?!!???

Goodell is a piece of work.

[Edited on 8/18/2011 by Bhawk]


I have much stronger words to describe that POS


brofan - 8/18/2011 at 09:04 PM

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i am still trying to figure out how the Seahawks beat the Saints last year. Only explanation is "thats why they play the game"!!!!! Hard to fathom/


Maybe Sean Payton got back into the Oxys......?


Peachypetewi - 8/18/2011 at 09:36 PM

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Ever met Brady? He's an a-hole. And this comes from a Meeechigan man!


My friend met him in the hotel elevator at a fund raiser in Chicago the Friday night before the Patriots played the Bears last year and he said Brady was pretty cool to him and joked around with him after he told Brady he hoped the Bears kicked his ass.


gondicar - 8/18/2011 at 09:52 PM

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Ever met Brady? He's an a-hole. And this comes from a Meeechigan man!


My friend met him in the hotel elevator at a fund raiser in Chicago the Friday night before the Patriots played the Bears last year and he said Brady was pretty cool to him and joked around with him after he told Brady he hoped the Bears kicked his ass.


I've met him, and a friend of mine is very tight with him (believe it or not, my friend is the one who gets the credit for introducing him and Giselle...he'd probably kill me for saying so though). Tom's a good guy, but I'm sure he has his a-hole moments (don't we all?). This is my son holding my 40th bday present.



Peachypetewi - 8/18/2011 at 11:14 PM

Wow that is really cool stuff.


DougMacKenzie - 8/19/2011 at 11:25 AM

I know it's only preseason, but man, the Squaeelers looked good last night, while Vick and the Buzzards not so much. It may take the Buzzards a while to getll with all their new players.


piacere - 8/19/2011 at 12:08 PM

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I know it's only preseason, but man, the Squaeelers looked good last night, while Vick and the Buzzards not so much. It may take the Buzzards a while to getll with all their new players.


LOL !!!! I laughed so hard reading this I almost broke a rib....

Apparently, you desert-dwelling camel herders didn't see the Patriots pick apart the Bucs...

your collective asses are toast...


piacere - 8/19/2011 at 12:10 PM

quote:
quote:
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Ever met Brady? He's an a-hole. And this comes from a Meeechigan man!


My friend met him in the hotel elevator at a fund raiser in Chicago the Friday night before the Patriots played the Bears last year and he said Brady was pretty cool to him and joked around with him after he told Brady he hoped the Bears kicked his ass.


I've met him, and a friend of mine is very tight with him (believe it or not, my friend is the one who gets the credit for introducing him and Giselle...he'd probably kill me for saying so though). Tom's a good guy, but I'm sure he has his a-hole moments (don't we all?). This is my son holding my 40th bday present.





How cool is that...


DougMacKenzie - 8/19/2011 at 12:32 PM

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I know it's only preseason, but man, the Squaeelers looked good last night, while Vick and the Buzzards not so much. It may take the Buzzards a while to getll with all their new players.


LOL !!!! I laughed so hard reading this I almost broke a rib....

Apparently, you desert-dwelling camel herders didn't see the Patriots pick apart the Bucs...



Who?


gondicar - 8/19/2011 at 12:43 PM

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I know it's only preseason, but man, the Squaeelers looked good last night, while Vick and the Buzzards not so much. It may take the Buzzards a while to getll with all their new players.


LOL !!!! I laughed so hard reading this I almost broke a rib....

Apparently, you desert-dwelling camel herders didn't see the Patriots pick apart the Bucs...



Who?


The Bucs, as in Buccaneers, you know, the team from Tampa.

[Edited on 8/19/2011 by gondicar]


Sang - 8/19/2011 at 01:16 PM

quote:
quote:
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Ever met Brady? He's an a-hole. And this comes from a Meeechigan man!


My friend met him in the hotel elevator at a fund raiser in Chicago the Friday night before the Patriots played the Bears last year and he said Brady was pretty cool to him and joked around with him after he told Brady he hoped the Bears kicked his ass.


I've met him, and a friend of mine is very tight with him (believe it or not, my friend is the one who gets the credit for introducing him and Giselle...he'd probably kill me for saying so though). Tom's a good guy, but I'm sure he has his a-hole moments (don't we all?). This is my son holding my 40th bday present.






Looks like he is also giving somebody the finger.......


piacere - 8/19/2011 at 01:26 PM

...and probably thinking to himself..."you bedouins, snap out of it."


Sang - 8/19/2011 at 02:04 PM

He's probably thinking about going outside and throwing the ball around in the mud............


BIGV - 8/19/2011 at 03:42 PM

quote:
I know it's only preseason, but man, the Squaeelers looked good last night, while Vick and the Buzzards not so much. It may take the Buzzards a while to getll with all their new players.


And in the meantime, How is that "Dream team"...Bull shiat treating you Igles fans?


Brendan - 8/19/2011 at 04:14 PM

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quote:
I know it's only preseason, but man, the Squaeelers looked good last night, while Vick and the Buzzards not so much. It may take the Buzzards a while to getll with all their new players.


And in the meantime, How is that "Dream team"...Bull shiat treating you Igles fans?

The Eagles looked TERRIBLE last night, but really??? You're ready to write them off totally after one pre-season game? Whatevs...


BIGV - 8/19/2011 at 04:45 PM

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quote:
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I know it's only preseason, but man, the Squaeelers looked good last night, while Vick and the Buzzards not so much. It may take the Buzzards a while to getll with all their new players.


And in the meantime, How is that "Dream team"...Bull shiat treating you Igles fans?

The Eagles looked TERRIBLE last night, but really??? You're ready to write them off totally after one pre-season game? Whatevs...


"Write them off"? Certainly not. But I will laugh at Vince Young's "Dream team" comment, what a maroon this guy is. Never been a believer in Vick and less faith in Young, just not ready to anoint them Champs...


Brendan - 8/19/2011 at 05:01 PM

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I know it's only preseason, but man, the Squaeelers looked good last night, while Vick and the Buzzards not so much. It may take the Buzzards a while to getll with all their new players.


And in the meantime, How is that "Dream team"...Bull shiat treating you Igles fans?

The Eagles looked TERRIBLE last night, but really??? You're ready to write them off totally after one pre-season game? Whatevs...


"Write them off"? Certainly not. But I will laugh at Vince Young's "Dream team" comment, what a maroon this guy is. Never been a believer in Vick and less faith in Young, just not ready to anoint them Champs...
Gotcha. Young is an idiot. I am a die hard Eagles fan, but I hate all that Dream Team, super bowl bound nonsense as well. I do think they're going to be very good this year though.

In the defense of the whole team, not one other player on that team has uttered any similar such sentiments. Just idiot-boy.

BTW, I think Saints are going to light it up this year.


BIGV - 8/19/2011 at 05:09 PM

quote:
BTW, I think Saints are going to light it up this year.


Eagles, Falcons, Saints will be there. My surprise team is the Rams. Bradford already plays like a ten year vet...


piacere - 8/19/2011 at 05:11 PM

My pick, aside from the obvious, is San Diego.


BIGV - 8/19/2011 at 05:17 PM

quote:
My pick, aside from the obvious, is San Diego.


San Diego, N.E. & Pitt... my surprise team is the Browns. But add, I think the Chargers are going to have a real tough time running the football, Mathews is a puss and Tolbert has hands of stone, we will miss Sproles. Rivers should throw for a boatload of yardage; top 5 fantasy guy!


Bhawk - 8/19/2011 at 05:17 PM

I'm taking the Bengals at 0-16.


BIGV - 8/19/2011 at 05:20 PM

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I'm taking the Bengals at 0-16.


Damn!... I love this time of year!

Bengals 0-16......a bad team for sure. In the NFC...S.F., Wash and Minn (Even w/AP) will vie for the worst label.


Brendan - 8/19/2011 at 05:29 PM

The 49ers are going to be terrible. Just a hunch...


piacere - 8/19/2011 at 05:31 PM

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My pick, aside from the obvious, is San Diego.


San Diego, N.E. & Pitt... my surprise team is the Browns. But add, I think the Chargers are going to have a real tough time running the football, Mathews is a puss and Tolbert has hands of stone, we will miss Sproles. Rivers should throw for a boatload of yardage; top 5 fantasy guy!



disagree. if Matthews stays healthy (big if) he'll have enough of a decent year for Rivers to use play action when he needs to. Don't forget, this team was 1st in O and D last year. Special teams buried them.


Bhawk - 8/19/2011 at 05:41 PM

Chiefs schedule is brutal times infinity this year. I have no idea what is going to happen.


Brendan - 8/19/2011 at 05:43 PM

quote:
Chiefs schedule is brutal times infinity this year. I have no idea what is going to happen.
What's that noise? Is that the whambulance I hear??


piacere - 8/19/2011 at 05:54 PM

quote:
Chiefs schedule is brutal times infinity this year. I have no idea what is going to happen.


you make the playoffs, schedule gets brutal.

welcome to the club.


Sang - 8/19/2011 at 06:11 PM

quote:
quote:
BTW, I think Saints are going to light it up this year.


Eagles, Falcons, Saints will be there. My surprise team is the Rams. Bradford already plays like a ten year vet...



Don't write off the Packers and the Bears - although the Bears also have a tough schedule.....


BIGV - 8/19/2011 at 07:35 PM

quote:
quote:
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BTW, I think Saints are going to light it up this year.


Eagles, Falcons, Saints will be there. My surprise team is the Rams. Bradford already plays like a ten year vet...



Don't write off the Packers and the Bears - although the Bears also have a tough schedule.....


My bad, forgot the Pack...The Bears?...I'd be surprised.


DanB - 8/19/2011 at 07:47 PM

quote:
quote:
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BTW, I think Saints are going to light it up this year.


Eagles, Falcons, Saints will be there. My surprise team is the Rams. Bradford already plays like a ten year vet...



Don't write off the Packers and the Bears - although the Bears also have a tough schedule.....


you're not the boss of me! I'm writing off the Bears


Peachypetewi - 8/19/2011 at 07:47 PM

The Bears very quietly assembled one of the deepest D-line's and running back corps in the NFL in the free agency signing period. If they get any kind of pass blocking they are going to be a very dangerous team. Not real sure I'm buying the Saints all that much unless they did something under the radar to fix that defense.


IPowrie - 8/19/2011 at 07:55 PM

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I'm taking the Bengals at 0-16.


Damn!... I love this time of year!

Bengals 0-16......a bad team for sure. In the NFC...S.F., Wash and Minn (Even w/AP) will vie for the worst label.


Doubt it would happen they should win at least one game plus I think Andy Dalton is to smart to run out of the back of the endzone. Then again they suck and sucky teams never get the benefit of the doubt from the refs so it could happen


IPowrie - 8/19/2011 at 07:56 PM

quote:
quote:
BTW, I think Saints are going to light it up this year.


Eagles, Falcons, Saints will be there. My surprise team is the Rams. Bradford already plays like a ten year vet...


Why is everyone so up on the Rams but not the Lions who demolished them last year. Who cares its the year of the Roar any way

Go Lions


WharfRat - 8/20/2011 at 12:00 AM

Cant believe a Iggles fan had the guts to show up here today...


HERE WE GO STEELERS, HERE WE GO




















Wait..

Last nights game didnt count?


BIGV - 8/20/2011 at 12:06 AM

quote:
Why is everyone so up on the Rams but not the Lions


Because so far, Bradford can stay healthy and Stafford,...........well.....


Bhawk - 8/20/2011 at 03:33 AM

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Chiefs schedule is brutal times infinity this year. I have no idea what is going to happen.
What's that noise? Is that the whambulance I hear??


Not whining, just being realistic. Have no clue what this team, or this coach, is going to do. I usually have a confidence by now of how things are gonna go. This year, no clue.


Bhawk - 8/20/2011 at 03:34 AM

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Chiefs schedule is brutal times infinity this year. I have no idea what is going to happen.


you make the playoffs, schedule gets brutal.



No sht? Is that how it goes? I wasn't aware...


DougMacKenzie - 8/21/2011 at 08:34 AM

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Chiefs schedule is brutal times infinity this year. I have no idea what is going to happen.


you make the playoffs, schedule gets brutal.



No sht? Is that how it goes? I wasn't aware...

Seems like I have some vague memory about that.


IPowrie - 8/21/2011 at 01:58 PM

Seems Larry Fitzgerald is going to be in Arizona for a while. Just signed a 8 year extension


BIGV - 8/21/2011 at 04:25 PM

quote:
Not real sure I'm buying the Saints all that much unless they did something under the radar to fix that defense.


I understand... After watching the Saints lose to the Texans last night, two things come to mind: 1) I know we play Houston again in a couple of weeks or so and we didn't want to show them too much, but that was embarrassing.....2) we can't tackle.


DougMacKenzie - 8/22/2011 at 10:38 AM

The Bolts looked pretty good last night, the 'Pokes' defense not so much. You can't help but like Phillip Rivers.


piacere - 8/22/2011 at 12:04 PM

quote:
The Bolts looked pretty good last night, the 'Pokes' defense not so much. You can't help but like Phillip Rivers.


my second favorite qb and a great dude. The reason why the Chargers are my second favorite team.


Sang - 8/22/2011 at 01:24 PM

Now that the pretend games are out of the way, we can watch the Monsters of the Midway on Monday night...........


Bhawk - 8/22/2011 at 03:23 PM

The "Patriot Way" of doing things here in KC is always great entertainment.

Presser a couple of weeks ago, one of our local sports talk radio goofs asks Scott Pioli if he has a "cap" on free agent spending as directed by the owner. Pioli: "Is that what I said, or even remotely close to what I said?" Brought the presser to a dead silent halt and made sports radio guy look like a total idiot.

Then on an interview on one of the sports talk radio stations a couple days later, they ask Pioli to name the free agents he went after but didn't land. Pioli: "I'm not telling you guys that! Do you guys go around telling your buddies about all the girls you tried to date that shot you down?"

The best is from last week. The Chiefs 1st round pick, Jonathan Baldwin, came in already with a diva, sense of entitlement attitude. Big mouth, too. The veterans weren't taking it well. Apparently Baldwin got into it with with Jamaal Charles in front of the whole offense. Two days later, he apparently gets into a fight in the locker room with Thomas Jones. First of all, Jones has become the de facto veteran leader of the team. Second of all, Jones has freakin' cannons for arms:



Who would fight that guy? Well, ends up that Baldwin, the 1st round pick gets a broken bone in his hand as a result. The story leaks and the Chiefs say that Todd Haley will address it, but only after Friday night's preseason game.

So, after the game, Haley says: Most everything that happens within these walls is family business. Thats the best thing for our team. To become a real good team, I think you need to have those areas that are off-limits. Certain things and areas are going to continue to stay family business.

Then, a reporter straight up asks more about the actual fight, which ends up with the first round draft pick walking around with a cast. Haley: "I don't know what you're referring to."

Thing is, it's driving the local media crazy, and it's really funny to watch their temper tantrums over the loss of access and loss of inside info.




fensranger - 8/22/2011 at 03:43 PM

it looks to me that there are 5 or 6 teams this year that really will stink and probably win 3 or 4 games mostly against each other. SF, Cincy, Washington, Minnesota, Carolina, Buffalo. There are also some pretty poor teams. The reality is that you need a solid QB to compete in almost every case. One can point to the Jets, but i would take Sanchez over any QBs that these clubs offer by a long shot.


gondicar - 8/22/2011 at 04:44 PM

quote:
Now that the pretend games are out of the way, we can watch the Monsters of the Midway on Monday night...........



Lee - 8/22/2011 at 05:53 PM

quote:
it looks to me that there are 5 or 6 teams this year that really will stink and probably win 3 or 4 games mostly against each other. SF, Cincy, Washington, Minnesota, Carolina, Buffalo. There are also some pretty poor teams. The reality is that you need a solid QB to compete in almost every case. One can point to the Jets, but i would take Sanchez over any QBs that these clubs offer by a long shot.




I would agree with all of those teams except Minnesota. McNabb was a big pickup and even though they lost Sidney Rice, they still have some good offensive weapons and of course, the best RB in the game. I think they can win 7 or 8 games.

Cincy is just plain awful.


BIGV - 8/22/2011 at 05:56 PM

quote:
The Bolts looked pretty good last night, the 'Pokes' defense not so much. You can't help but like Phillip Rivers.


Rivers is going to have a Monster year; Chargers will have problems running the football.


BIGV - 8/22/2011 at 05:57 PM

quote:
McNabb was a big pickup and even though they lost Sidney Rice, they still have some good offensive weapons and of course, the best RB in the game. I think they can win 7 or 8 games.


I think McNabb is over the hill...might not finish the year as the starter.


Lee - 8/22/2011 at 06:02 PM

quote:
quote:
The Bolts looked pretty good last night, the 'Pokes' defense not so much. You can't help but like Phillip Rivers.


Rivers is going to have a Monster year; Chargers will have problems running the football.



Perhaps, but not being able to run the ball doesn't always bode well for being able to throwing it.


BIGV - 8/22/2011 at 06:04 PM

quote:
quote:
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The Bolts looked pretty good last night, the 'Pokes' defense not so much. You can't help but like Phillip Rivers.


Rivers is going to have a Monster year; Chargers will have problems running the football.



Perhaps, but not being able to run the ball doesn't always bode well for being able to throwing it.


Perhaps, but it does mean a hell of a lot of pass attempts.


piacere - 8/22/2011 at 06:06 PM

quote:
quote:
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The Bolts looked pretty good last night, the 'Pokes' defense not so much. You can't help but like Phillip Rivers.


Rivers is going to have a Monster year; Chargers will have problems running the football.



Perhaps, but not being able to run the ball doesn't always bode well for being able to throwing it.


...and I talk funny.


Lee - 8/22/2011 at 06:16 PM

I pick 9th in a 12-team league. According to one of the mock drafts I've seen Rivers is the 29th best player. If that holds, I can get him in round two.


BIGV - 8/22/2011 at 06:22 PM

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I pick 9th in a 12-team league. According to one of the mock drafts I've seen Rivers is the 29th best player. If that holds, I can get him in round two.


Good luck with that. I pick 5th in a 12 team league and chances are he'll be gone by my pick....


Peachypetewi - 8/22/2011 at 06:30 PM

I remember the first fantasy football league I ever got involved with in 1999. everyone thought I was nuts for picking Peyton Manning in the first round. Well as it turned out I won that league, never had to sub a different QB except the Colts bye week. Personally i think you can't possibly go wrong picking Rivers early. he has 2 gigantic WR to throw to this year in both Floyd and Jackson.


spacemonkey - 8/22/2011 at 06:35 PM

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quote:
Now that the pretend games are out of the way, we can watch the Monsters of the Midway on Monday night...........





Monsters?

Never.....more like Chipmunks!


Lee - 8/22/2011 at 06:36 PM

I highly doubt that any QBs will be gone by the fifth pick. The thing with taking QBs early is that RBs and WRs have more of a positive upside depending on who you pick.

If you get one of the top 6 or 7 QBs, there's not a big difference in their output.


fensranger - 8/22/2011 at 07:24 PM

i think it depends on the scoring in each particular league. Some leagues count points for completions and give various points for yardage. A QB can really score a great deal of points depending on league. I do agree that the top 5 or 6 QBs are usually pretty close in point but that can probably be said for other positions as well.


Lee - 8/22/2011 at 07:27 PM

quote:
Now that the pretend games are out of the way, we can watch the Monsters of the Midway on Monday night...........



Last time they played the Giants, they sacked Cutler 9 times. Good thing he'll only play one or two series.


Lee - 8/22/2011 at 07:46 PM

Raiders took Terrell Pryor. How appropriate.


Peachypetewi - 8/22/2011 at 08:17 PM

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Raiders took Terrell Pryor. How appropriate.


Fact is Pryor's infractions are small potatos compared to a Notre Dame Head coach who sent a student to his death in 70 mph winds or an out of control u of Miami booster spending tens of thousands on players.


Sang - 8/22/2011 at 10:18 PM

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quote:
Now that the pretend games are out of the way, we can watch the Monsters of the Midway on Monday night...........



Last time they played the Giants, they sacked Cutler 9 times. Good thing he'll only play one or two series.



They may still get 9.......


BIGV - 8/22/2011 at 10:48 PM

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Raiders took Terrell Pryor. How appropriate.


He does not look like a pro to me...kind of a gamble...


brofan - 8/22/2011 at 11:02 PM

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Raiders took Terrell Pryor. How appropriate.


He does not look like a pro to me...kind of a gamble...


Did you see Gruden grilling him about game situations on ESPN? It was hilarious. The guy is dumber than a fence post....but not dumber than Rex Grossman.


WharfRat - 8/22/2011 at 11:31 PM

quote:
Now that the pretend games are out of the way, we can watch the Monsters of the Midway on Monday night...........


Did Cutler quit yet?


DougMacKenzie - 8/23/2011 at 10:37 AM

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Raiders took Terrell Pryor. How appropriate.


He does not look like a pro to me...kind of a gamble...

I believe I heard he ran a 4.4 forty and would be willing to try wide receiver. That would make more sense.


piacere - 8/23/2011 at 12:12 PM

unreal.

the last time I heard this much idle banter, I was waiting for my girlfriend at the hair salon and all the wimmens was chatting about shoes and cake recipes with curlers in their hair.

get with it.

PATRIOTS !!!!!!


fensranger - 8/23/2011 at 03:50 PM

the monsters of the midway looked like little puppy dogs last night, lol nice special teams!!!!


Lee - 8/23/2011 at 04:01 PM

quote:
unreal.

the last time I heard this much idle banter, I was waiting for my girlfriend at the hair salon and all the wimmens was chatting about shoes and cake recipes with curlers in their hair.

get with it.

PATRIOTS !!!!!!



Hey at least Fat Albert isn't getting punished for the sexual digression.


Lee - 8/23/2011 at 04:06 PM

Mebbe he can grab her right breast next time.


DanB - 8/23/2011 at 04:15 PM

Bears Offensive Line Coach Mike Tice Fairly Close To Learning Difference Between Tackle And Guard



BOURBONNAIS, ILDespite struggling through the first three weeks of training camp, Bears offensive line coach Mike Tice told a group of reporters Tuesday he has just about figured out the difference between offensive tackles and guards. I cant say with confidence right now I know which is which, but thats why we hold training camp, said Tice, who has tried to label the line formation on his fingers to help him remember but keeps sucking the ink off while thinking about other things. You work on this stuff now so you dont have to worry about it during the season. Though Tice speculated he could learn the difference between the types of players by the beginning of the regular season, he admitted that he continues to struggle with the difference between left and right.


spacemonkey - 8/23/2011 at 04:18 PM

quote:
unreal.

the last time I heard this much idle banter, I was waiting for my girlfriend at the hair salon and all the wimmens was chatting about shoes and cake recipes with curlers in their hair.

get with it.

PATRIOTS !!!!!!


How did YOUR perm turn out girlie man?


piacere - 8/23/2011 at 04:21 PM

he ain't gettin' paid for etiquette, manners, respect or self-control, that's for sure...


Lee - 8/23/2011 at 04:29 PM

quote:
he ain't gettin' paid for etiquette, manners, respect or self-control, that's for sure...



At least he didn't stomp on her head with cleats on.


Bhawk - 8/23/2011 at 06:26 PM

BREAKING: The Oakland Raiders have just drafted Nevin Shapiro.


brofan - 8/23/2011 at 07:25 PM

quote:
the monsters of the midway looked like little puppy dogs last night, lol nice special teams!!!!


Last year they were 0-4 in the Preseason and won the NFC North as well as making it to the NFC Championship Game.

Preseason means Jack.


brofan - 8/23/2011 at 07:27 PM

quote:
Bears Offensive Line Coach Mike Tice Fairly Close To Learning Difference Between Tackle And Guard



BOURBONNAIS, ILDespite struggling through the first three weeks of training camp, Bears offensive line coach Mike Tice told a group of reporters Tuesday he has just about figured out the difference between offensive tackles and guards. I cant say with confidence right now I know which is which, but thats why we hold training camp, said Tice, who has tried to label the line formation on his fingers to help him remember but keeps sucking the ink off while thinking about other things. You work on this stuff now so you dont have to worry about it during the season. Though Tice speculated he could learn the difference between the types of players by the beginning of the regular season, he admitted that he continues to struggle with the difference between left and right.




And it's Cutler's fault he's been sacked more than any other NFL QB the last 2 years - by a WIDE margin.


fensranger - 8/23/2011 at 07:39 PM

preseason doesnt mean anything but the Bears are a nowhere team this year. 500 at best!!!


brofan - 8/23/2011 at 07:44 PM

quote:
preseason doesnt mean anything but the Bears are a nowhere team this year. 500 at best!!!


I'm a diehard Bears fan, and although I don't think they will approach last year's record, they'll be better than .500, if for no reason other that their defense, and if Cutler stays healthy, they have a chance - I say a CHANCE - to win 10 games.


DougMacKenzie - 8/23/2011 at 07:48 PM

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preseason doesnt mean anything but the Bears are a nowhere team this year. 500 at best!!!


I'm a diehard Bears fan, and although I don't think they will approach last year's record, they'll be better than .500, if for no reason other that their defense, and if Cutler stays healthy, they have a chance - I say a CHANCE - to win 10 games.


And the Cowboys still have a chance to go undefeated in the regular season! WOHOO!


brofan - 8/23/2011 at 08:29 PM

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quote:
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preseason doesnt mean anything but the Bears are a nowhere team this year. 500 at best!!!


I'm a diehard Bears fan, and although I don't think they will approach last year's record, they'll be better than .500, if for no reason other that their defense, and if Cutler stays healthy, they have a chance - I say a CHANCE - to win 10 games.


And the Cowboys still have a chance to go undefeated in the regular season! WOHOO!


Doug, I respectfully disagree...


BIGV - 8/23/2011 at 08:43 PM

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preseason doesnt mean anything but the Bears are a nowhere team this year. 500 at best!!!


I'm a diehard Bears fan, and although I don't think they will approach last year's record, they'll be better than .500, if for no reason other that their defense, and if Cutler stays healthy, they have a chance - I say a CHANCE - to win 10 games.


And the Cowboys still have a chance to go undefeated in the regular season! WOHOO!


Doug, I respectfully disagree...


Cowboys, Bears..whatever. You'll be chasing someone in the NFC South.


fensranger - 8/23/2011 at 08:44 PM

Doug you are correct, but come September 11th against the J E T S they will no longer be unbeaten. As for the Bears winning 10 games -i think it will be rough. The return game is hurt by new rule and i think Cutler is OK but he just does not get alot of protection. Their D is a bit overrated IMO.


IPowrie - 8/24/2011 at 12:00 AM

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preseason doesnt mean anything but the Bears are a nowhere team this year. 500 at best!!!


I'm a diehard Bears fan, and although I don't think they will approach last year's record, they'll be better than .500, if for no reason other that their defense, and if Cutler stays healthy, they have a chance - I say a CHANCE - to win 10 games.


And the Cowboys still have a chance to go undefeated in the regular season! WOHOO!


Doug, I respectfully disagree...


Cowboys, Bears..whatever. You'll be chasing someone in the NFC South.


The Panthers?


brofan - 8/24/2011 at 12:57 AM

quote:
quote:
quote:
quote:
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preseason doesnt mean anything but the Bears are a nowhere team this year. 500 at best!!!


I'm a diehard Bears fan, and although I don't think they will approach last year's record, they'll be better than .500, if for no reason other that their defense, and if Cutler stays healthy, they have a chance - I say a CHANCE - to win 10 games.


And the Cowboys still have a chance to go undefeated in the regular season! WOHOO!


Doug, I respectfully disagree...


Cowboys, Bears..whatever. You'll be chasing someone in the NFC South.


And Norv Turner will FINALLY get fired from what is hopefully his LAST HC job after missing the playoffs again....that guy could screw up a wet dream. He should NEVER be given another HC job - but some schmuck will hire him again after he gets fired from this one.


brofan - 8/24/2011 at 12:58 AM

quote:
Doug you are correct, but come September 11th against the J E T S they will no longer be unbeaten. As for the Bears winning 10 games -i think it will be rough. The return game is hurt by new rule and i think Cutler is OK but he just does not get alot of protection. Their D is a bit overrated IMO.


We'll see....


spacemonkey - 8/24/2011 at 03:36 AM

quote:


And Norv Turner will FINALLY get fired from what is hopefully his LAST HC job after missing the playoffs again....that guy could screw up a wet dream. He should NEVER be given another HC job - but some schmuck will hire him again after he gets fired from this one.


Norv is OK, but should never be forgiven for turning Troy Aikmen into a super bowl QB.
and now we have to listen to that dumb jock butcher the English Language on network TV.

Nice going Norv!


brofan - 8/24/2011 at 06:41 AM

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quote:


And Norv Turner will FINALLY get fired from what is hopefully his LAST HC job after missing the playoffs again....that guy could screw up a wet dream. He should NEVER be given another HC job - but some schmuck will hire him again after he gets fired from this one.


Norv is OK, but should never be forgiven for turning Troy Aikmen into a super bowl QB.
and now we have to listen to that dumb jock butcher the English Language on network TV.

Nice going Norv!




He has always been an excellent OC, but like that other idiot Dave Wannstedt he should NEVER be given another head coaching job at any level.

Norv Turner has the leadership charisma of a cadaver....


DougMacKenzie - 8/24/2011 at 11:12 AM

This is some funny stuff. Norv and Dave were great under the Jimster, without him not so much. Jimmy was the man and put together a great team, notwithstanding monkey boy's disain of Troy. Too bad Jerry still hasn't quite realized he isn't Jimmy.


Lee - 8/24/2011 at 12:25 PM

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the monsters of the midway looked like little puppy dogs last night, lol nice special teams!!!!


Last year they were 0-4 in the Preseason and won the NFC North as well as making it to the NFC Championship Game.

Preseason means Jack.



Indeed. I think the year the Lions went 0-16 they were 4-0 in the preseason.


piacere - 8/24/2011 at 12:31 PM

you're all kidding, right?

the last time I heard this much idle banter, I overheard the ladies in the office talking about fall fashions and alimony payments.

get with it.

PATRIOTS !!!!!


Lee - 8/24/2011 at 12:36 PM

quote:
you're all kidding, right?

the last time I heard this much idle banter, I overheard the ladies in the office talking about fall fashions and alimony payments.

get with it.

PATRIOTS !!!!!



Ocho-Who?


DougMacKenzie - 8/24/2011 at 01:26 PM

quote:
quote:
you're all kidding, right?

the last time I heard this much idle banter, I overheard the ladies in the office talking about fall fashions and alimony payments.

get with it.

PATRIOTS !!!!!



Ocho-Who?

Cut Mark some slack. He's a little preoccupied rocking gina's world. The winds may blow, the rains may come, the earth may shake, but the Cowboys are still America's team. Listen and learn.


piacere - 8/24/2011 at 02:18 PM

quote:
quote:
quote:
you're all kidding, right?

the last time I heard this much idle banter, I overheard the ladies in the office talking about fall fashions and alimony payments.

get with it.

PATRIOTS !!!!!



Ocho-Who?

Cut Mark some slack. He's a little preoccupied rocking gina's world. The winds may blow, the rains may come, the earth may shake, but the Cowboys are still America's team. Listen and learn.


wrong, desert roamer. I'm not "preoccupied". gina knows her place, there are specific time coordinates to be met and adhered to, as well as specific locales...

hmmm, I see that down the road a named hurricane will be "Lee".

my luck, it'll slam RI...


BIGV - 8/24/2011 at 04:56 PM

quote:
quote:


And Norv Turner will FINALLY get fired from what is hopefully his LAST HC job after missing the playoffs again....that guy could screw up a wet dream. He should NEVER be given another HC job - but some schmuck will hire him again after he gets fired from this one.


Norv is OK, but should never be forgiven for turning Troy Aikmen into a super bowl QB.
and now we have to listen to that dumb jock butcher the English Language on network TV.

Nice going Norv!


Here in San Diego, he's remembered for letting Micheal Turner go to the Falcons (where he responded by running for 1,800+ yds) and keeping Ladainian Tomlinson, only to release him the following year...and then saying..."We need a RB"...


Sang - 8/24/2011 at 05:27 PM

quote:
quote:
quote:
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you're all kidding, right?

the last time I heard this much idle banter, I overheard the ladies in the office talking about fall fashions and alimony payments.

get with it.

PATRIOTS !!!!!



Ocho-Who?

Cut Mark some slack. He's a little preoccupied rocking gina's world. The winds may blow, the rains may come, the earth may shake, but the Cowboys are still America's team. Listen and learn.


wrong, desert roamer. I'm not "preoccupied". gina knows her place, there are specific time coordinates to be met and adhered to, as well as specific locales...

hmmm, I see that down the road a named hurricane will be "Lee".

my luck, it'll slam RI...





Don't worry - it will leave when it is half way through....or it may never get started....


Lee - 8/24/2011 at 05:30 PM

quote:
quote:
quote:
quote:
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you're all kidding, right?

the last time I heard this much idle banter, I overheard the ladies in the office talking about fall fashions and alimony payments.

get with it.

PATRIOTS !!!!!



Ocho-Who?

Cut Mark some slack. He's a little preoccupied rocking gina's world. The winds may blow, the rains may come, the earth may shake, but the Cowboys are still America's team. Listen and learn.


wrong, desert roamer. I'm not "preoccupied". gina knows her place, there are specific time coordinates to be met and adhered to, as well as specific locales...

hmmm, I see that down the road a named hurricane will be "Lee".

my luck, it'll slam RI...





Don't worry - it will leave when it is half way through....or it may never get started....



Phew! I can sleep safely under the bed!


Lee - 8/24/2011 at 05:35 PM

Say, who is gonna cast the bust at Ocho-Stinko's HOF induction?


Lee - 8/24/2011 at 05:37 PM

How many criminals does Bellichek need?

I heard Candy Moss is looking for a job.


Lee - 8/24/2011 at 05:38 PM

Anyone know how to operate a camera?


Lee - 8/24/2011 at 05:39 PM

Fat Albert is out of cleats!


Lee - 8/24/2011 at 05:49 PM

Colts signed Kerry Collins today. There's their starter it appears.


Bhawk - 8/24/2011 at 06:31 PM

quote:
How many criminals does Bellichek need?

I heard Candy Moss is looking for a job.


Ochocinco is a criminal? Since when?


piacere - 8/24/2011 at 06:34 PM

quote:
quote:
How many criminals does Bellichek need?

I heard Candy Moss is looking for a job.


Ochocinco is a criminal? Since when?


Patriots have a pretty low number according to the link that was provided a while back concerning off-field issues.
Lee's just another disgruntled Lions fan...he can't help it.


Bhawk - 8/24/2011 at 06:38 PM

quote:
quote:
quote:
How many criminals does Bellichek need?

I heard Candy Moss is looking for a job.


Ochocinco is a criminal? Since when?


Patriots have a pretty low number according to the link that was provided a while back concerning off-field issues.
Lee's just another disgruntled Lions fan...he can't help it.


I just think that if someone is going to be called a criminal they should have at least have done something criminal.


piacere - 8/24/2011 at 06:41 PM

quote:
quote:
quote:
quote:
How many criminals does Bellichek need?

I heard Candy Moss is looking for a job.


Ochocinco is a criminal? Since when?


Patriots have a pretty low number according to the link that was provided a while back concerning off-field issues.
Lee's just another disgruntled Lions fan...he can't help it.


I just think that if someone is going to be called a criminal they should have at least have done something criminal.


He played for Cinncy. Whatever he may have done, he paid the price.


DanB - 8/24/2011 at 06:46 PM

quote:
quote:
quote:
quote:
quote:
How many criminals does Bellichek need?

I heard Candy Moss is looking for a job.


Ochocinco is a criminal? Since when?


Patriots have a pretty low number according to the link that was provided a while back concerning off-field issues.
Lee's just another disgruntled Lions fan...he can't help it.


I just think that if someone is going to be called a criminal they should have at least have done something criminal.


He played for Cinncy. Whatever he may have done, he paid the price.


Chad Johnson has done nothing. The Patriots have video proof.


brofan - 8/24/2011 at 07:19 PM

quote:
quote:
quote:


And Norv Turner will FINALLY get fired from what is hopefully his LAST HC job after missing the playoffs again....that guy could screw up a wet dream. He should NEVER be given another HC job - but some schmuck will hire him again after he gets fired from this one.


Norv is OK, but should never be forgiven for turning Troy Aikmen into a super bowl QB.
and now we have to listen to that dumb jock butcher the English Language on network TV.

Nice going Norv!


Here in San Diego, he's remembered for letting Micheal Turner go to the Falcons (where he responded by running for 1,800+ yds) and keeping Ladainian Tomlinson, only to release him the following year...and then saying..."We need a RB"...


Like many pass-obsessed OCs (and most of whom lose) he has never understood the value of the running game - which has put him at odds with every defensive coordinator he has worked with. Losing Ron Rivera leaves a void in SD that probably can't be filled.

Remember when Buddy Ryan took a swing at Kevin Gilbride for continuing to put it up resulting in more turnovers and more time on the field for the D, which is what usually happens when you have no running game and try to make the pass 80% of your offense.

I wish Buddy had dropped Gilbride....


brofan - 8/24/2011 at 07:21 PM

quote:
How many criminals does Bellichek need?

I heard Candy Moss is looking for a job.


I wish the Bears would sign him. As the game Monday night demonstrated (and as Detroit and Dallas already know) ROY WILLIAMS SUCKS.


brofan - 8/24/2011 at 07:22 PM

quote:
quote:
quote:
quote:
How many criminals does Bellichek need?

I heard Candy Moss is looking for a job.


Ochocinco is a criminal? Since when?


Patriots have a pretty low number according to the link that was provided a while back concerning off-field issues.
Lee's just another disgruntled Lions fan...he can't help it.


I just think that if someone is going to be called a criminal they should have at least have done something criminal.


You want criminal" He should be arrested for that pathetic reality TV show of his....


Bhawk - 8/24/2011 at 07:30 PM

quote:
quote:
quote:
quote:
quote:
How many criminals does Bellichek need?

I heard Candy Moss is looking for a job.


Ochocinco is a criminal? Since when?


Patriots have a pretty low number according to the link that was provided a while back concerning off-field issues.
Lee's just another disgruntled Lions fan...he can't help it.


I just think that if someone is going to be called a criminal they should have at least have done something criminal.


You want criminal" He should be arrested for that pathetic reality TV show of his....


If that's the standard, 90% of the people on TV are criminals...


brofan - 8/24/2011 at 08:59 PM

quote:
quote:
quote:
quote:
quote:
quote:
How many criminals does Bellichek need?

I heard Candy Moss is looking for a job.


Ochocinco is a criminal? Since when?


Patriots have a pretty low number according to the link that was provided a while back concerning off-field issues.
Lee's just another disgruntled Lions fan...he can't help it.


I just think that if someone is going to be called a criminal they should have at least have done something criminal.


You want criminal" He should be arrested for that pathetic reality TV show of his....


If that's the standard, 90% of the people on TV are criminals...


Start building more jails!


Lee - 8/25/2011 at 10:20 AM

quote:
quote:
How many criminals does Bellichek need?

I heard Candy Moss is looking for a job.


I wish the Bears would sign him. As the game Monday night demonstrated (and as Detroit and Dallas already know) ROY WILLIAMS SUCKS.



Rich - The front page of the Tribune sports page yesterday had an article on Roy Williams and how sheety he is. Hasn't even played a game yet and they already know how bad he is. I've never seen a receiver drop more passes than him.


piacere - 8/25/2011 at 12:24 PM

quote:
quote:
quote:
quote:
quote:
quote:
How many criminals does Bellichek need?

I heard Candy Moss is looking for a job.


Ochocinco is a criminal? Since when?


Patriots have a pretty low number according to the link that was provided a while back concerning off-field issues.
Lee's just another disgruntled Lions fan...he can't help it.


I just think that if someone is going to be called a criminal they should have at least have done something criminal.


He played for Cinncy. Whatever he may have done, he paid the price.


Chad Johnson has done nothing. The Patriots have video proof.


ya really gotta get over the video thing. Everybody did it, Mangini knew that. I'd imagine some or most teams still do. Thing is, we got caught. Another thing is, you cryin' little sissies can't keep using that as an excuse every time we whip your little asses.

get over it.


Bhawk - 8/25/2011 at 02:05 PM

quote:
we really gotta get over this video thing. We do it all the time, Mangini got fired by Belichick because he wouldn't do it right. None of the other teams do it as well as we do. Thing is, we love cheating. Another thing is, you cryin' little sissies can't keep using that as an excuse just because we're so much better at cheating than the rest of you.

I'm still drunk.


Bhawk - 8/25/2011 at 02:05 PM


piacere - 8/25/2011 at 02:09 PM

LOL


DanB - 8/25/2011 at 02:33 PM

quote:
LOL


LMAO that your Patsies will never have 6 rings


DanB - 8/25/2011 at 02:33 PM


DanB - 8/25/2011 at 02:35 PM


piacere - 8/25/2011 at 02:41 PM

quote:
quote:
LOL


LMAO that your Patsies will never have 6 rings


what I think is even funnier than that is that the Steelers have a drunk rapist as their qb and he's still allowed to play...funny, ain't it?


Lee - 8/25/2011 at 02:43 PM

Who the hell goes 16-0 and loses in the playoffs? Tsk Tsk....


DanB - 8/25/2011 at 02:43 PM

quote:
quote:
quote:
LOL


LMAO that your Patsies will never have 6 rings


what I think is even funnier than that is that the Steelers have a drunk rapist as their qb and he's still allowed to play...funny, ain't it?


he was accused of assault because he didn't swipe his credit card

girls gotta get paid


piacere - 8/25/2011 at 02:55 PM

quote:
Who the hell goes 16-0 and loses in the playoffs? Tsk Tsk....


ok...again...you guys have REALLY got to get over the past, we have. Ask any athlete, (you guys have played some college ball, no?) all that matters is right here, right now.

hey danny, you talkin' from experience?


Sang - 8/25/2011 at 03:18 PM

....or if you're the Cubs, you have to look to the future......

WAIT TILL NEXT YEAR!


piacere - 8/25/2011 at 03:28 PM

quote:
....or if you're the Cubs, you have to look to the future......

WAIT TILL NEXT YEAR!


my point, exactly. y'see fellers? ol'Sang knows. Though the dude has busted my balls incessantly for years and I have to admit, I laugh my arse off when he does so, because of his sharp wit, ability to see the true meaning of an issue and his exquisite taste in all things Vonn/Alba, you all should take heed in such a wise and learned man.

for years, as Patriots/Sox/Bruins/Celtics fans we suffered through some serious let downs and I'm sure, will again in the future...however, now that all four of these beloved teams have recently reached the pinnacle of their respective sports, I'm left with but one final thing to say...

...kiss my ass.


DanB - 8/25/2011 at 03:51 PM

quote:
quote:
Who the hell goes 16-0 and loses in the playoffs? Tsk Tsk....


ok...again...you guys have REALLY got to get over the past, we have. Ask any athlete, (you guys have played some college ball, no?) all that matters is right here, right now.

hey danny, you talkin' from experience?




nope I'm cash only ask any waitress


Brendan - 8/25/2011 at 04:00 PM

quote:
quote:
....or if you're the Cubs, you have to look to the future......

WAIT TILL NEXT YEAR!


my point, exactly. y'see fellers? ol'Sang knows. Though the dude has busted my balls incessantly for years and I have to admit, I laugh my arse off when he does so, because of his sharp wit, ability to see the true meaning of an issue and his exquisite taste in all things Vonn/Alba, you all should take heed in such a wise and learned man.

for years, as Patriots/Sox/Bruins/Celtics fans we suffered through some serious let downs and I'm sure, will again in the future...however, now that all four of these beloved teams have recently reached the pinnacle of their respective sports, I'm left with but one final thing to say...

...kiss my ass.
This is exactly why people hate the northeast.


jim - 8/25/2011 at 04:01 PM

quote:
This is exactly why people hate the northeast.


I just hate the Eagles.


Brendan - 8/25/2011 at 04:14 PM

quote:
quote:
This is exactly why people hate the northeast.


I just hate the Eagles.
Good. We don't need any more freaks in our fan-base.


piacere - 8/25/2011 at 04:24 PM

quote:
quote:
quote:
....or if you're the Cubs, you have to look to the future......

WAIT TILL NEXT YEAR!


my point, exactly. y'see fellers? ol'Sang knows. Though the dude has busted my balls incessantly for years and I have to admit, I laugh my arse off when he does so, because of his sharp wit, ability to see the true meaning of an issue and his exquisite taste in all things Vonn/Alba, you all should take heed in such a wise and learned man.

for years, as Patriots/Sox/Bruins/Celtics fans we suffered through some serious let downs and I'm sure, will again in the future...however, now that all four of these beloved teams have recently reached the pinnacle of their respective sports, I'm left with but one final thing to say...

...kiss my ass.
This is exactly why people hate the northeast.


that's too bad, we're such a loving bunch...


piacere - 8/25/2011 at 05:16 PM

seriously though, if it means more rings, they can keep on hatin'...


Lee - 8/25/2011 at 05:55 PM

quote:
quote:
Who the hell goes 16-0 and loses in the playoffs? Tsk Tsk....


ok...again...you guys have REALLY got to get over the past, we have. Ask any athlete, (you guys have played some college ball, no?) all that matters is right here, right now.

hey danny, you talkin' from experience?






Okay, then get on with your future. You British haters are going nowhere I tells ya!


Lee - 8/25/2011 at 05:56 PM

I think I shall root for England this year.


Sang - 8/25/2011 at 06:15 PM

quote:
I think I shall root for England this year.






They have a better chance than the Lions................


Lee - 8/26/2011 at 10:12 AM

quote:
quote:
I think I shall root for England this year.






They have a better chance than the Lions................



The important thing is we have an offensive line. Poop poor Jay Cutler....


Lee - 8/26/2011 at 10:14 AM

How many sacks can YOU take in one half?


piacere - 8/26/2011 at 12:18 PM

gentlemen...and I use the term loosely...fear not. The football gods have waved their hands over Gillette Stadium, home of glory and might, protecting it from any potential damage or destruction from what could be an otherwise pesky female that goes by the name of "Irene".

just easing any doubts or fears you may have had...


DougMacKenzie - 8/26/2011 at 01:46 PM

All stadiums pale in comparison to the Boss Hog Bowl and are rendered insignificant in it's shadow. In other words, nobody cares about your little junkyard up there in the wastelands.


piacere - 8/26/2011 at 01:53 PM

quote:
All stadiums pale in comparison to the Boss Hog Bowl and are rendered insignificant in it's shadow. In other words, nobody cares about your little junkyard up there in the wastelands.



blasphemous blasphementations will henceforth not be overlooked and the curse of the infestation of fleas will engulf and lay waste to your herd of camels...O wandering bedouin.....

PATRIOTS !!!!!!!


Lee - 8/26/2011 at 02:21 PM

quote:
gentlemen...and I use the term loosely...fear not. The football gods have waved their hands over Gillette Stadium, home of glory and might, protecting it from any potential damage or destruction from what could be an otherwise pesky female that goes by the name of "Irene".

just easing any doubts or fears you may have had...



Who the hell names a stadium after a product to shave one's privates?


Lee - 8/26/2011 at 02:25 PM

Do the girls do that on the East Coast?


gondicar - 8/26/2011 at 02:25 PM

quote:
quote:
gentlemen...and I use the term loosely...fear not. The football gods have waved their hands over Gillette Stadium, home of glory and might, protecting it from any potential damage or destruction from what could be an otherwise pesky female that goes by the name of "Irene".

just easing any doubts or fears you may have had...



Who the hell names a stadium after a product to shave one's privates?


It takes an organization with a lot of confidence.


piacere - 8/26/2011 at 02:26 PM

quote:
quote:
gentlemen...and I use the term loosely...fear not. The football gods have waved their hands over Gillette Stadium, home of glory and might, protecting it from any potential damage or destruction from what could be an otherwise pesky female that goes by the name of "Irene".

just easing any doubts or fears you may have had...



Who the hell names a stadium after a product to shave one's privates?


uhhh, nevermind.


Lee - 8/26/2011 at 02:27 PM

You prolly speak the Queen's English too, dontcha?


piacere - 8/26/2011 at 02:31 PM

quote:
You prolly speak the Queen's English too, dontcha?


I'm from RI. We all sound like Rambo.


piacere - 8/26/2011 at 02:37 PM

quote:
You prolly speak the Queen's English too, dontcha?


Patriots from Mass. and RI beat back the English.

pay attention.


piacere - 8/26/2011 at 02:41 PM

quote:
Do the girls do that on the East Coast?


Do what, listen to ridiculously inane questions?

No.


Bhawk - 8/26/2011 at 02:42 PM

quote:
quote:
You prolly speak the Queen's English too, dontcha?


Patriots from Mass. and RI beat back the English.

pay attention.


Yup, took on the Redcoats. Then the football team wore red for 30 years. What was that all about?


Lee - 8/26/2011 at 02:44 PM

quote:
quote:
quote:
You prolly speak the Queen's English too, dontcha?


Patriots from Mass. and RI beat back the English.

pay attention.


Yup, took on the Redcoats. Then the football team wore red for 30 years. What was that all about?




Liberals. You can relate.


brofan - 8/26/2011 at 09:45 PM

quote:
quote:
quote:
How many criminals does Bellichek need?

I heard Candy Moss is looking for a job.


I wish the Bears would sign him. As the game Monday night demonstrated (and as Detroit and Dallas already know) ROY WILLIAMS SUCKS.



Rich - The front page of the Tribune sports page yesterday had an article on Roy Williams and how sheety he is. Hasn't even played a game yet and they already know how bad he is. I've never seen a receiver drop more passes than him.


Typical moronic Angelo move. Lee Evans? Nah, we don't need him. Plaxico Burress? Nah. Jerricho Cotchery? Nah. Roy Williams? YES!

NO......


brofan - 8/26/2011 at 09:48 PM

quote:
....or if you're the Cubs, you have to look to the future......

WAIT TILL NEXT YEAR!


Al least the Cubs didn't sign Adam Dunnass to what, $48 million? For a sub .160 hitter?

And one you can't even unload on some other sucker?


brofan - 8/26/2011 at 09:50 PM

quote:
quote:
....or if you're the Cubs, you have to look to the future......

WAIT TILL NEXT YEAR!


my point, exactly. y'see fellers? ol'Sang knows. Though the dude has busted my balls incessantly for years and I have to admit, I laugh my arse off when he does so, because of his sharp wit, ability to see the true meaning of an issue and his exquisite taste in all things Vonn/Alba, you all should take heed in such a wise and learned man.

for years, as Patriots/Sox/Bruins/Celtics fans we suffered through some serious let downs and I'm sure, will again in the future...however, now that all four of these beloved teams have recently reached the pinnacle of their respective sports, I'm left with but one final thing to say...

...kiss my ass.


I love Lindsay Vonn, but Julia Mancuso is 100 times hotter....


Lee - 8/27/2011 at 10:51 AM

My fantasy football draft is today. This afternoon is as much fun as the whole season. I pick ninth. Should be interesting to see who is on the board when I pick. Hopefully one of the Johnson wide receivers or Fitzgerald. I'll take any of the three.


IPowrie - 8/27/2011 at 02:53 PM

No reason to get excited, the thief, he kindly spoke
There are many here among us who feel that life is but a joke
But you and I, weve been through that, and this is not our fate
So let us not talk falsely now, the hour is getting late


Lions preseason game tonight might watch it but probably not, Im hoping they lose at least one preseason game


DanB - 8/28/2011 at 02:56 AM

damn the Lions defense really beat down the Patsies


Peachypetewi - 8/28/2011 at 02:31 PM

quote:
quote:
....or if you're the Cubs, you have to look to the future......

WAIT TILL NEXT YEAR!


Al least the Cubs didn't sign Adam Dunnass to what, $48 million? For a sub .160 hitter?

And one you can't even unload on some other sucker?



Over paying Alfonso Soriano by about 40 million ring a bell?


Peachypetewi - 8/28/2011 at 03:49 PM

The Bears O-line looks quite respectable for 2 games in a row. Maybe Cutler won't be running for his life all season. I've officially gone from skeptical to cautiously optimistic on their O-line now.


Sang - 8/28/2011 at 05:18 PM

quote:
quote:
quote:
....or if you're the Cubs, you have to look to the future......

WAIT TILL NEXT YEAR!


Al least the Cubs didn't sign Adam Dunnass to what, $48 million? For a sub .160 hitter?

And one you can't even unload on some other sucker?



Over paying Alfonso Soriano by about 40 million ring a bell?



$18 million for Zambrano this year looks pretty good too......


piacere - 8/29/2011 at 12:22 PM

incredible.

the last time I heard this much idle banter, I was waiting for my sweetie at a department store check out line and and the wimmen folk were talking about wireless bras and the Home Shopping Network.

get with it.

PATRIOTS !!!!!!


DougMacKenzie - 8/29/2011 at 12:42 PM

Man, the Lions sure took a bite out of the Pats during the all important dress rehearsal game. Ouch.


michaelsio - 8/29/2011 at 01:21 PM

quote:
incredible.

the last time I heard this much idle banter, I was waiting for my sweetie at a department store check out line and and the wimmen folk were talking about wireless bras and the Home Shopping Network.

get with it.

PATRIOTS !!!!!!


Bras that get WiFi? What'll they think of next?

Oh, and I'll select 'no' with the Patsies.


Sang - 8/29/2011 at 01:48 PM

quote:
incredible.

the last time I heard this much idle banter, I was waiting for my sweetie at a department store check out line and and the wimmen folk were talking about wireless bras and the Home Shopping Network.







Were you holding her purse for her?


nebish - 8/29/2011 at 02:01 PM


Any kind of ABB NFL fantasy league, or weekly pick'em contests or anything going on here?


Sang - 8/29/2011 at 02:03 PM

I thought I saw someone post in the AG about a knock-out pool.......


leftyblues - 8/29/2011 at 02:50 PM

quote:
an otherwise pesky female that goes by the name of "Irene".



oh really ?
The Bears have a pesky female named Jay Cutler

Throw it away Jay...
Don't want to play Jay...


Sang - 8/29/2011 at 03:54 PM

quote:
quote:
an otherwise pesky female that goes by the name of "Irene".



oh really ?
The Bears have a pesky female named Jay Cutler

Throw it away Jay...
Don't want to play Jay...





Don't be a hater.........just because you moved away..........


DanB - 8/29/2011 at 06:48 PM

Mark Schlereth smokes crack before going on air


WharfRat - 8/30/2011 at 12:48 AM

Anyone see that bus that ran over the hapless Falcons this weekend??


This is just a taste of what your hapless franchises have in store for them.


HERE WE GO STEELERS HERE WE GO


WharfRat - 8/30/2011 at 12:48 AM

quote:
quote:
an otherwise pesky female that goes by the name of "Irene".



oh really ?
The Cowpokes have a pesky female named Tony Romo






spacemonkey - 8/30/2011 at 01:00 AM

dog pile on the rapist!


spacemonkey - 8/30/2011 at 01:03 AM

Eli has thrown 2 interceptions so far tonight.


looks like he is ready to try and break his Team interception record from last year.!

Go GIAN............... never mind.


Sang - 8/30/2011 at 01:05 AM

quote:
Mark Schlereth smokes crack before going on air






Well, they did win it last year.........


WharfRat - 8/30/2011 at 01:36 AM

quote:
dog pile on the MVP



Sang - 8/30/2011 at 02:03 AM

That doesn't look like Michael Vick...............


nebish - 8/30/2011 at 06:50 PM

I set up a yahoo pro pick'em if anybody wants to play. Same kind of thing as the college one.


http://football.fantasysports.yahoo.com/pickem

Group ID# 42799
Password Gregg

Pick every game each week with point spreads. Your lowest weekly point total is dropped.


WharfRat - 8/31/2011 at 01:51 AM

quote:
That doesn't look like Michael Vick...............


I said MVP, not a dog killer


Sang - 8/31/2011 at 02:41 AM

No, you said dog pile...............


Lee - 8/31/2011 at 02:35 PM

So my first two picks were Andre Johnson and Larry Fitzgerald. I think I have WR covered so to speak.


nebish - 9/1/2011 at 04:17 AM

I've never played NFL fantasy football, only ncaa fantasy before. Question, why when I see the networks put up their list on top 20 RBs that Felix Jones is not listed? No Marion Barber this year, wouldn't it figure that a starting RB for the Cowboys is going to likely be a top 20, if not top 10 fantasy RB? That is a guy I would go after.


Sang - 9/1/2011 at 01:46 PM

Well, Barber is on the Bears, who are looking to run more, but he will be behind Forte.... so it will depend on how much playing time he will get.....


nebish - 9/1/2011 at 06:01 PM

Right, it was Felix Jones I was talking about. His playing time and fantasy numbers should be great this year with Barber gone. Just don't know why he isn't getting talked about in terms of fantasy potential.


Sang - 9/1/2011 at 06:10 PM

Maybe it's because it's the Cowgirls. Maybe people are afraid Romo will muff a lot of handoffs..................or he'll get hurt if they rely on him too much.....



Or maybe I made all this up.....................


nebish - 9/1/2011 at 06:13 PM

quote:
Maybe it's because it's the Cowgirls. Maybe people are afraid Romo will muff a lot of handoffs..................or he'll get hurt if they rely on him too much.....



Or maybe I made all this up.....................




That's fine. I just think he should be one to watch this year.

I like Dallas this year as a playoff team, maybe a division winner.


piacere - 9/1/2011 at 06:18 PM

just saw on yahoo Doug Flutie's daughter Alexa will be a Patriots cheerleader.

she is...ummmm, SMOKIN' !!!!!


Sang - 9/1/2011 at 06:23 PM


piacere - 9/1/2011 at 06:25 PM

sang your taste in wimmens grows more exquisite by the minute...


spacemonkey - 9/1/2011 at 06:26 PM

quote:
No, you said dog pile...............



No
I said dog pile on the Rapist.

and will every time he gets sacked!


brofan - 9/1/2011 at 09:03 PM

quote:
quote:
an otherwise pesky female that goes by the name of "Irene".



oh really ?
The Bears have a pesky female named Jay Cutler

Throw it away Jay...
Don't want to play Jay...



I suppose you'd prefer Rex "I'm so dumb I can't even spell my own name" Grossman.

If the Redskins name him their starter, they WILL RUE THE DAY....and they will become the Deadskins.

I'll take Cutler over 90% of the other QBs in the NFL any day of the week. I can't think of any other QB in the league who could have taken the beating he took the last two years and missed as few snaps as he did.

I really don't give a sh!t about his "demeanor" or "body Language" - all meaningless BS promulgated by the Denver Press Corps to justify Josh McDouchebag's incredibly stupid move of pissing off a Pro Bowl QB by lying right to his face, before he had ever coached an NFL game.


brofan - 9/1/2011 at 09:08 PM

quote:
quote:
quote:
....or if you're the Cubs, you have to look to the future......

WAIT TILL NEXT YEAR!


Al least the Cubs didn't sign Adam Dunnass to what, $48 million? For a sub .160 hitter?

And one you can't even unload on some other sucker?



Over paying Alfonso Soriano by about 40 million ring a bell?


You won't hear me defending that deal - or the Milton Bradley deal - or the Fukudome deal - but Soriano has never hit below .200.

Dunn has a chance to have the lowest recorded batting average in the history of Major League Baseball. Now that'd be an incredible and unprecedented achievement.


brofan - 9/1/2011 at 09:11 PM

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She must be about a foot taller than her old man....


Sang - 9/1/2011 at 09:22 PM

Who isn't?


brofan - 9/2/2011 at 04:02 AM

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Who isn't?


Good point


Peachypetewi - 9/2/2011 at 10:56 AM

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....or if you're the Cubs, you have to look to the future......

WAIT TILL NEXT YEAR!


Al least the Cubs didn't sign Adam Dunnass to what, $48 million? For a sub .160 hitter?

And one you can't even unload on some other sucker?



Over paying Alfonso Soriano by about 40 million ring a bell?


You won't hear me defending that deal - or the Milton Bradley deal - or the Fukudome deal - but Soriano has never hit below .200.

Dunn has a chance to have the lowest recorded batting average in the history of Major League Baseball. Now that'd be an incredible and unprecedented achievement.


I completely supported the move. There was zero evidence absolutely no reason to believe he was going to implode like he did. If he would have just hit and batted his career numbers they would have been in great shape. I 'm guessing Ozzie will be managing Florida next year.

And to end this on a football note. I believe the Bears line will surrender less sacks then the Packers line this year. I've never been a big Mike meathead Tice fan but he seems to have done an excellent job of identifying and putting the right guys in the right positions. First time ever that Cutler was protected so well and not running for his life in preseason.



[Edited on 9/2/2011 by Peachypetewi]


gondicar - 9/2/2011 at 01:53 PM

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She must be about a foot taller than her old man....


Not exactly...


piacere - 9/2/2011 at 02:12 PM

dang.

Flutie's what, 5-7?

she's got to be 5' tall.

that's ok though...


Sang - 9/2/2011 at 02:47 PM

He could be standing on a box...... and the picture has a weird perspective - almost to make him look taller - but 5' looks about right........



EDIT: Just read a story on her. He is 5'10'' and she is 5'2".....

[Edited on 9/2/2011 by Sang]


piacere - 9/2/2011 at 03:04 PM

that's still ok...


IPowrie - 9/2/2011 at 03:27 PM

Am nervous about the Lions season now they went 4-0 in the preseason


piacere - 9/2/2011 at 03:40 PM

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Am nervous about the Lions season now they went 4-0 in the preseason


not just because they handed us our lunch but they are going to be good...

the farther Matt Millen gets in the rear view mirror, the better they get.


gondicar - 9/2/2011 at 03:42 PM

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dang.

Flutie's what, 5-7?

she's got to be 5' tall.

that's ok though...


You seriously thought he is 5' 7"? Now THAT would be short for a QB in high school, never mind Div 1 college or pros.

I know he lists at 5' 10", but I've met him a couple times, and we are almost exactly the same height (I'm 5' 11").

There was some "controversy" this past spring over Alexa becoming a Pats cheerleader. Apparantly she had tried out several before but didn't have the dancing moves to get picked. Then dad made a call to the Pats front office to see if he could influence the decision this year and voila, she's a Pats cheerleader.


piacere - 9/2/2011 at 04:02 PM

I was slightly exagerrating...


Peachypetewi - 9/2/2011 at 04:02 PM

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Am nervous about the Lions season now they went 4-0 in the preseason



They are definitely on the upswing but they still have to prove it when the games count and put a full season together. Once they do that I'll be convinced until then it's all same old same old.


nebish - 9/2/2011 at 05:00 PM

I was at a sports memorabilia show last year with a bunch of great football players. Staubach, Bradshaw, Don Shula, bunch of 72 Dolphins, Mike Ditka, Franco Harris, Tony Dorsett...tons of guys like that. I got to meet many of them. Staubach was throwing passes to people. That was great. They were all really nice, except Tony D, he was kind of a dick and Ditka was pretty much what you would expect him to be.

Anyway, about Flutie, he had a big body guard behind him at the autograph table to keep people from getting too close "no pictures with Mr Flutie". The only one that had any kind of a body guard. And Flutie had a certain air about him, like "I'm great, I can't believe I have to do this".



[Edited on 9/2/2011 by nebish]


DougMacKenzie - 9/4/2011 at 02:20 PM

One more week to go. Align yourselves with The One True Champion before it is too late!

COWBOYS!!!!!!


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Lee - 9/5/2011 at 06:04 PM

quote:
One more week to go. Align yourselves with The One True Champion before it is too late!

COWBOYS!!!!!!



Did you guys get a new holder?


WharfRat - 9/6/2011 at 01:57 AM

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One more week to go. Align yourselves with The One True Champion before it is too late!

COWBOYS!!!!!!



Did you guys get a new QB?


DougMacKenzie - 9/6/2011 at 10:55 AM

Did the Squeelers get a new team lawyer?


piacere - 9/6/2011 at 12:07 PM

two guys I really liked, Merriwether and Tate...cut.

I don't understand cutting Merriwether.

kinda pisses me off and I'm considering not watching football, dropping the Patriots altogether and spending the fall/winter with gina, charting and mapping hurricanes, tsunamis, earthquakes, blizzards and the whereabouts of various Pakistani rebels...


Lee - 9/6/2011 at 12:32 PM

quote:
two guys I really liked, Merriwether and Tate...cut.

I don't understand cutting Merriwether.

kinda pisses me off and I'm considering not watching football, dropping the Patriots altogether and spending the fall/winter with gina, charting and mapping hurricanes, tsunamis, earthquakes, blizzards and the whereabouts of various Pakistani rebels...



Or you could watch the Lions storm thru the NFL.


piacere - 9/6/2011 at 12:36 PM

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two guys I really liked, Merriwether and Tate...cut.

I don't understand cutting Merriwether.

kinda pisses me off and I'm considering not watching football, dropping the Patriots altogether and spending the fall/winter with gina, charting and mapping hurricanes, tsunamis, earthquakes, blizzards and the whereabouts of various Pakistani rebels...



Or you could watch the Lions storm thru the NFL.


maybe I'll watch the Lions on turkey day, a brief respite from all that mapping and charting...


Lee - 9/6/2011 at 01:03 PM

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two guys I really liked, Merriwether and Tate...cut.

I don't understand cutting Merriwether.

kinda pisses me off and I'm considering not watching football, dropping the Patriots altogether and spending the fall/winter with gina, charting and mapping hurricanes, tsunamis, earthquakes, blizzards and the whereabouts of various Pakistani rebels...



Or you could watch the Lions storm thru the NFL.


maybe I'll watch the Lions on turkey day, a brief respite from all that mapping and charting...



Either eating too much or watching the Lions will make you sick. At least you have options.


piacere - 9/6/2011 at 02:51 PM

just read the Bears signed Merriwether on Sunday.

eff Sang.


piacere - 9/6/2011 at 02:55 PM

...and Tate to the Bengals.


spacemonkey - 9/6/2011 at 02:59 PM

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I suppose you'd prefer Rex "I'm so dumb I can't even spell my own name" Grossman.

If the Redskins name him their starter, they WILL RUE THE DAY....and they will become the Deadskins.


They became the DeadSkins the day Daniel Snyder bought the skinks.


spacemonkey - 9/6/2011 at 03:01 PM

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two guys I really liked, Merriwether and Tate...cut.

I don't understand cutting Merriwether.

kinda pisses me off and I'm considering not watching football, dropping the Patriots altogether and spending the fall/winter with gina, charting and mapping hurricanes, tsunamis, earthquakes, blizzards and the whereabouts of various Pakistani rebels...



Or you could watch the Lions storm thru the NFL.



don't you just love preseason delusions?


Sang - 9/6/2011 at 05:19 PM

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just read the Bears signed Merriwether on Sunday.

eff Sang.



We needed a backup.......


Lee - 9/6/2011 at 06:49 PM

Bears shoulda signed some more offensive linemen to protect Cutler's ass.


Bhawk - 9/6/2011 at 06:57 PM

Chiefs 4-12 this year. 6-10. At best. At very best, actually. Sigh.


Lee - 9/6/2011 at 07:00 PM

Oh come on Hawk. Other than the Chargers, their division sucks. They should finish .500 I would think.


brofan - 9/6/2011 at 08:08 PM

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I was at a sports memorabilia show last year with a bunch of great football players. Staubach, Bradshaw, Don Shula, bunch of 72 Dolphins, Mike Ditka, Franco Harris, Tony Dorsett...tons of guys like that. I got to meet many of them. Staubach was throwing passes to people. That was great. They were all really nice, except Tony D, he was kind of a dick and Ditka was pretty much what you would expect him to be.

Anyway, about Flutie, he had a big body guard behind him at the autograph table to keep people from getting too close "no pictures with Mr Flutie". The only one that had any kind of a body guard. And Flutie had a certain air about him, like "I'm great, I can't believe I have to do this".



[Edited on 9/2/2011 by nebish]


Flutie had a chip on his shoulder when Ditka brought him in to "back up" i.e. replace - Jim McMahon the year after the Bears won the Super Bowl. Here was a guy who hadn't won anything substantial at any level acting like he was the Messiah for a team that were World Champs. To be fair, Ditka fawned over him and McMahon DID get hurt, but Wonder Boy couldn't get it done against the 'Skins in the playoffs that year.

He didn't last too long with the Bears - he was not liked by his teammates AT ALL. And McMahon, who was a dick, too, but had still won a SB, pissed off the the McCaskeys so bad that they had to get rid of him. As they did Ditka a few years later.

The Chicago Bears should have won 2 or 3 Super Bowls in the '80s, but the McCaskeys were convinced that THEY were the reason for the team's success and due to ego dismantled the team and coaching staff. And they're still looking for their first Super Bowl win 25 years later.


brofan - 9/6/2011 at 08:09 PM

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I don't understand cutting Merriwether.


Chicago Bear fans the world over thank you, Bill Belichik!


Bhawk - 9/6/2011 at 08:09 PM

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Oh come on Hawk. Other than the Chargers, their division sucks. They should finish .500 I would think.


We will see. The schedule is brutal and I think Todd Haley may be clinically insane.


brofan - 9/6/2011 at 08:12 PM

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Bears shoulda signed some more offensive linemen to protect Cutler's ass.


You must not have watched any of the Bear's preseason games. Their O-Line looks pretty good.

I would venture that DETROIT needs to spend more to protect STAFFORD. He's the one that's injury prone, as good as he is when he's healthy - which ain't often.


nypeachhead - 9/6/2011 at 08:23 PM

Garrard just released by Jags, huh???


brofan - 9/6/2011 at 08:37 PM

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Garrard just released by Jags, huh???


Wow...he must have really pissed someone off to be released this late before the season. No loyalty....what a surprise.


Bhawk - 9/6/2011 at 08:39 PM

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Garrard just released by Jags, huh???


Wow...he must have really pissed someone off to be released this late before the season. No loyalty....what a surprise.


I'm thinking the Jags front office had about, oh, 9 million reasons to think he wouldn't last the season.


brofan - 9/6/2011 at 08:47 PM

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Garrard just released by Jags, huh???


Wow...he must have really pissed someone off to be released this late before the season. No loyalty....what a surprise.


I'm thinking the Jags front office had about, oh, 9 million reasons to think he wouldn't last the season.


Then why not cut him a month ago and let him sign with another team before they capped out?

Not very worker-friendly, Hawk....*laugh*


Bhawk - 9/6/2011 at 08:58 PM

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Garrard just released by Jags, huh???


Wow...he must have really pissed someone off to be released this late before the season. No loyalty....what a surprise.


I'm thinking the Jags front office had about, oh, 9 million reasons to think he wouldn't last the season.


Then why not cut him a month ago and let him sign with another team before they capped out?

Not very worker-friendly, Hawk....*laugh*




We're talking about the NFL here. This is the place where one can lose his job and get sent to the freakin' Leavenworth Federal Pen, get back out and get rehired...for $100 million.

It's...a different kind of place to work.


brofan - 9/6/2011 at 09:03 PM

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Garrard just released by Jags, huh???


Wow...he must have really pissed someone off to be released this late before the season. No loyalty....what a surprise.


I'm thinking the Jags front office had about, oh, 9 million reasons to think he wouldn't last the season.


Then why not cut him a month ago and let him sign with another team before they capped out?

Not very worker-friendly, Hawk....*laugh*




We're talking about the NFL here. This is the place where one can lose his job and get sent to the freakin' Leavenworth Federal Pen, get back out and get rehired...for $100 million.

It's...a different kind of place to work.


I know. How do I get a job there?

Or anywhere, for that matter....


Lee - 9/7/2011 at 09:30 AM

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Bears shoulda signed some more offensive linemen to protect Cutler's ass.


You must not have watched any of the Bear's preseason games. Their O-Line looks pretty good.

I would venture that DETROIT needs to spend more to protect STAFFORD. He's the one that's injury prone, as good as he is when he's healthy - which ain't often.


My comment was more a compliment to Cutler. The guy ran for his life last season. I didn't mean anything about anyone being injury prone or not.


Peachypetewi - 9/7/2011 at 11:01 AM

Continuing the tradition of being offensively retarded the Bears are starting the wrong WR's. Knox and Bennett should be starting not Williams and Hester.


Lee - 9/7/2011 at 02:03 PM

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Continuing the tradition of being offensively retarded the Bears are starting the wrong WR's. Knox and Bennett should be starting not Williams and Hester.



On the one hand it is a head scratcher, I agree. On the other hand, it IS Martz' offense. Knox and Bennett are more slot / possession guys so that doesn't surprise me I guess.

Same guy that traded the tight end and cut their only fullback yesterday.

If this clown thinks he is gonna turn the Bears into the greatest show on sheety turf, he is misguided.


Peachypetewi - 9/7/2011 at 02:56 PM

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Continuing the tradition of being offensively retarded the Bears are starting the wrong WR's. Knox and Bennett should be starting not Williams and Hester.



On the one hand it is a head scratcher, I agree. On the other hand, it IS Martz' offense. Knox and Bennett are more slot / possession guys so that doesn't surprise me I guess.

Same guy that traded the tight end and cut their only fullback yesterday.

If this clown thinks he is gonna turn the Bears into the greatest show on sheety turf, he is misguided.


Knox is one of the fastest WR's in the league, he is a deep threat that can stretch the field, by no means would I call him a slot/possession WR. With the right coaching he could be a true number 1. Bennett yes, he catches everything near him and is definitely more of a possession/slot WR.. I was not opposed to trading Greg Olsen at all, I guess i got tired of watching a soft, non physical non athletic TE with very average pass catching skills get out muscled and pushed around by corners 4 inches shorter and 40 pounds lighter then him. But then again it's not his fault he was completely over hyped by Bears management.


[Edited on 9/7/2011 by Peachypetewi]


brofan - 9/7/2011 at 04:26 PM

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Continuing the tradition of being offensively retarded the Bears are starting the wrong WR's. Knox and Bennett should be starting not Williams and Hester.



On the one hand it is a head scratcher, I agree. On the other hand, it IS Martz' offense. Knox and Bennett are more slot / possession guys so that doesn't surprise me I guess.

Same guy that traded the tight end and cut their only fullback yesterday.

If this clown thinks he is gonna turn the Bears into the greatest show on sheety turf, he is misguided.


Knox is one of the fastest WR's in the league, he is a deep threat that can stretch the field, by no means would I call him a slot/possession WR. With the right coaching he could be a true number 1. Bennett yes, he catches everything near him and is definitely more of a possession/slot WR.. I was not opposed to trading Greg Olsen at all, I guess i got tired of watching a soft, non physical non athletic TE with very average pass catching skills get out muscled and pushed around by corners 4 inches shorter and 40 pounds lighter then him. But then again it's not his fault he was completely over hyped by Bears management.


[Edited on 9/7/2011 by Peachypetewi]


Pete, all I heard from "knowledgeable" Bear fans last year was that Knox didn't know how to run routes, didn't fight for the ball, avoided contact, and was responsible for a large number for Cutler's INTs.

And that was when I was DEFENDING him. Funny how those same people are now saying that he should be starting ahead of Williams - which I completely agree with.

Of course, these were the same "experts" who said that Matt Forte SUCKED and that Chester Taylor should be starting - and that Forte should be traded. Again, I defended Forte after his down season 2 years ago - you know, the one when he played on one leg all year and still almost gained 1000 yards - behind no OL.

All kinds of geniuses out there.


brofan - 9/7/2011 at 04:47 PM

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Bears shoulda signed some more offensive linemen to protect Cutler's ass.


You must not have watched any of the Bear's preseason games. Their O-Line looks pretty good.

I would venture that DETROIT needs to spend more to protect STAFFORD. He's the one that's injury prone, as good as he is when he's healthy - which ain't often.


My comment was more a compliment to Cutler. The guy ran for his life last season. I didn't mean anything about anyone being injury prone or not.


I was just nudgin' ya, Lee. I hope Stafford remains injury-free all season - as long as the Lions finish behind the Bears and ahead of the Packers. I've always liked him and respect him too, as I've said previously. He's got a lot of guts and is a great leader.


Peachypetewi - 9/7/2011 at 05:41 PM

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Continuing the tradition of being offensively retarded the Bears are starting the wrong WR's. Knox and Bennett should be starting not Williams and Hester.



On the one hand it is a head scratcher, I agree. On the other hand, it IS Martz' offense. Knox and Bennett are more slot / possession guys so that doesn't surprise me I guess.

Same guy that traded the tight end and cut their only fullback yesterday.

If this clown thinks he is gonna turn the Bears into the greatest show on sheety turf, he is misguided.


Knox is one of the fastest WR's in the league, he is a deep threat that can stretch the field, by no means would I call him a slot/possession WR. With the right coaching he could be a true number 1. Bennett yes, he catches everything near him and is definitely more of a possession/slot WR.. I was not opposed to trading Greg Olsen at all, I guess i got tired of watching a soft, non physical non athletic TE with very average pass catching skills get out muscled and pushed around by corners 4 inches shorter and 40 pounds lighter then him. But then again it's not his fault he was completely over hyped by Bears management.


[Edited on 9/7/2011 by Peachypetewi]


Pete, all I heard from "knowledgeable" Bear fans last year was that Knox didn't know how to run routes, didn't fight for the ball, avoided contact, and was responsible for a large number for Cutler's INTs.

And that was when I was DEFENDING him. Funny how those same people are now saying that he should be starting ahead of Williams - which I completely agree with.

Of course, these were the same "experts" who said that Matt Forte SUCKED and that Chester Taylor should be starting - and that Forte should be traded. Again, I defended Forte after his down season 2 years ago - you know, the one when he played on one leg all year and still almost gained 1000 yards - behind no OL.

All kinds of geniuses out there.


All those things about Knox were true, he made a ton of rookie mistakes last year no doubt about it. But burying him on the bench behind Roy Williams pretty much guarantees he'll never develop. He came into camp in great shape, 10 pounds of muscle added and a great attitude from all reports. As far as Forte goes he reported to camp in great shape also, the problem is he's looking for DeAngelo Williams or ChrisJohnson type money and just because the Panthers and Titans severely over paid doesn't mean the Bears will. And I'm sick of hearing the Bears are cheap because the last 10 years the Bears have paid their players and free agents very well.


Lee - 9/7/2011 at 06:45 PM

Fellas - Williams sucks. end of story. I think this will be his last hurrah if he doesn't make something happen within the first half of the season. If it were me, I would start Knox ahead of him. At least Knox can catch the ball.

Regarding Hester, he is one exciting guy to watch but the Bears know he can't take a hit to save his life. I imagaine that's why every pass to him is a sideline route so he can run out of bounds. Not a knock on him per se, just an observation from someone who has watched every play of the Bears for seven years.

We shall see. It all starts tomorrow!


brofan - 9/7/2011 at 06:51 PM

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quote:
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Continuing the tradition of being offensively retarded the Bears are starting the wrong WR's. Knox and Bennett should be starting not Williams and Hester.



On the one hand it is a head scratcher, I agree. On the other hand, it IS Martz' offense. Knox and Bennett are more slot / possession guys so that doesn't surprise me I guess.

Same guy that traded the tight end and cut their only fullback yesterday.

If this clown thinks he is gonna turn the Bears into the greatest show on sheety turf, he is misguided.


Knox is one of the fastest WR's in the league, he is a deep threat that can stretch the field, by no means would I call him a slot/possession WR. With the right coaching he could be a true number 1. Bennett yes, he catches everything near him and is definitely more of a possession/slot WR.. I was not opposed to trading Greg Olsen at all, I guess i got tired of watching a soft, non physical non athletic TE with very average pass catching skills get out muscled and pushed around by corners 4 inches shorter and 40 pounds lighter then him. But then again it's not his fault he was completely over hyped by Bears management.


[Edited on 9/7/2011 by Peachypetewi]


Olsen also dropped at least 33% of his passes, something the Panthers will find out soon enough. He also has one of the worst RAC stats of any TE in the NFL.


brofan - 9/7/2011 at 07:07 PM

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Continuing the tradition of being offensively retarded the Bears are starting the wrong WR's. Knox and Bennett should be starting not Williams and Hester.



On the one hand it is a head scratcher, I agree. On the other hand, it IS Martz' offense. Knox and Bennett are more slot / possession guys so that doesn't surprise me I guess.

Same guy that traded the tight end and cut their only fullback yesterday.

If this clown thinks he is gonna turn the Bears into the greatest show on sheety turf, he is misguided.


Knox is one of the fastest WR's in the league, he is a deep threat that can stretch the field, by no means would I call him a slot/possession WR. With the right coaching he could be a true number 1. Bennett yes, he catches everything near him and is definitely more of a possession/slot WR.. I was not opposed to trading Greg Olsen at all, I guess i got tired of watching a soft, non physical non athletic TE with very average pass catching skills get out muscled and pushed around by corners 4 inches shorter and 40 pounds lighter then him. But then again it's not his fault he was completely over hyped by Bears management.


[Edited on 9/7/2011 by Peachypetewi]


Pete, all I heard from "knowledgeable" Bear fans last year was that Knox didn't know how to run routes, didn't fight for the ball, avoided contact, and was responsible for a large number for Cutler's INTs.

And that was when I was DEFENDING him. Funny how those same people are now saying that he should be starting ahead of Williams - which I completely agree with.

Of course, these were the same "experts" who said that Matt Forte SUCKED and that Chester Taylor should be starting - and that Forte should be traded. Again, I defended Forte after his down season 2 years ago - you know, the one when he played on one leg all year and still almost gained 1000 yards - behind no OL.

All kinds of geniuses out there.


All those things about Knox were true, he made a ton of rookie mistakes last year no doubt about it. But burying him on the bench behind Roy Williams pretty much guarantees he'll never develop. He came into camp in great shape, 10 pounds of muscle added and a great attitude from all reports. As far as Forte goes he reported to camp in great shape also, the problem is he's looking for DeAngelo Williams or ChrisJohnson type money and just because the Panthers and Titans severely over paid doesn't mean the Bears will. And I'm sick of hearing the Bears are cheap because the last 10 years the Bears have paid their players and free agents very well.


I didn't say anything about what Forte wants monetarily. All I was commenting on was his production. He had a 4.5 YPC avg. last season and was a threat to break one any time. He also is one of the best pass catching backs in the league. He also knows how to pick up the blitz. Those kinds of backs don't grow on trees.

He doesn't suck. Far from it. He plays hurt and is a team player. My point is that anyone who said he sucks wouldn't know a placekicker from a linebacker.

And the problem isn't much money you spend, it's what you spend it on. They WAY overpaid Chester Taylor, which I knew was a stupid signing when they announced it. The guy is SO slow getting to the hole it's like he's using a walker. Same thing with Manumalena or whatever that worthless TE's name was. How many downs did he play last year? And how many passes did he catch? I know he was signed to be a blocking TE because Olsen doesn't or wouldn't, but you can't block anyone if you're not on the field. A LOT of money wasted there. Along with the Roy Williams signing. The Bears could have picked up Brandon Tate off the NE scrapheap and he would have been WAY better than Williams, and he could have returned punts and kicks too. Instead Cincinnati signed him to replace Chad Johnson (I refuse to use his other "name.")

Like I said in another post, the Bears didn't need Lee Evans. They didn't need Plaxico Burress. They didn't need Jerricho Cotchery. They didn't need Derek Mason. And they didn't need Brandon Tate either, apparently. Right.

Watch Tate. He's gonna be a star in this league.


brofan - 9/7/2011 at 07:09 PM

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Fellas - Williams sucks. end of story. I think this will be his last hurrah if he doesn't make something happen within the first half of the season. If it were me, I would start Knox ahead of him. At least Knox can catch the ball.

Regarding Hester, he is one exciting guy to watch but the Bears know he can't take a hit to save his life. I imagaine that's why every pass to him is a sideline route so he can run out of bounds. Not a knock on him per se, just an observation from someone who has watched every play of the Bears for seven years.

We shall see. It all starts tomorrow!


I agree on all points above.


nebish - 9/9/2011 at 02:37 AM

Randall Cobb is STILL the man!


Sang - 9/9/2011 at 04:12 AM

Packers looked tough, but still almost blew it........


Peachypetewi - 9/9/2011 at 10:54 AM

New Orleans came out sleep walking. Nice defensive play by both teams last night. Nice to see Kreutz still getting man handled by Packers D-linemen and making wild shotgun snaps. But he is a locker room leader


DougMacKenzie - 9/9/2011 at 11:11 AM

Nice game to start the season. I can't figure out if both offesnses are that good or the defenses are that bad. Maybe a bit of both I guess. I love football.


Lee - 9/9/2011 at 12:11 PM

I have no Cowboys or Patriots on my fantasy roster. Just so ya know.


Lee - 9/9/2011 at 12:13 PM

I did pick Big Ben in the fourth round as my starting QB though. He lasted that long.


DougMacKenzie - 9/9/2011 at 12:43 PM

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I have no Cowboys or Patriots on my fantasy roster. Just so ya know.

As is it should be; you are not worthy.


piacere - 9/9/2011 at 12:48 PM

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I have no Cowboys or Patriots on my fantasy roster. Just so ya know.


why am I not surprised?

enjoy the fantasy basement.


nebish - 9/9/2011 at 12:55 PM

I was disappointed with what I saw in the Saints defense. I had been expecting more of the 2009 D, but their secondary is just way too shaky. Although to their credit, a few of those catches the coverage was really good and Rodgers just fit it in the perfect spot. I don't know how much Will Smith being out meant, they did sack Rodgers 3x, but I expected more pressure. I can recall two other times where they pressured him real good, but didn't get the sack, once complete on a 3rd and long and once he threw it away. Rodgers continues to impress me. The Packers offense was extremely impressive for most of the game for sure. Packers D seems good, but would not scare me in any way vs the quality teams.

Some of the Saints problems on O I attribute to the early season out of sync-ness. I think they will likely get better in the pass blocking and short yardage calls as the season goes on.


Lee - 9/9/2011 at 12:58 PM

Now now gents. Get your panties unleashed. I have the two best receivers in the game - Andre Johnson and Larry Fitzgerald.


Oh, and one idiot RB, Cedric Benson.


piacere - 9/9/2011 at 01:04 PM

best receiver in the game is Wes Welker.

nice try though...


Sang - 9/9/2011 at 01:31 PM

Who's that? Never heard of him..........


Is he from the Lingerie League?

[Edited on 9/9/2011 by Sang]


DougMacKenzie - 9/9/2011 at 03:06 PM

quote:
Who's that? Never heard of him..........


Is he from the Lingerie League?



Didn't he start out as a tight end, but is now a wide receiver?


DanB - 9/9/2011 at 03:31 PM

Historically I am the KISS OF DEATH with my fantasy rosters. They'll get injured or go in a slump.
My roster this year, autopick draft BTW, includes Big Ben, Mike Wallace, Ward, and Mendenhall. I may cut all 4 so as not to ruin the Steelers season.


piacere - 9/9/2011 at 06:46 PM

as I do not bother with the interweb on the weekends and I'm out the door in 10, let me wish all of you foul-smelling, towel-wearing bedouins the best of luck this weekend as you roam the desert in search of glory upon your flea-infested, fart-laden camels....

GO COWBOYS !!!!


spacemonkey - 9/9/2011 at 06:59 PM

Was that a football game last night or was it a track meet?



wott ever happened to defense?



BIGV - 9/10/2011 at 05:27 AM

quote:
Was that a football game last night or was it a track meet?



wott ever happened to defense?


Good question.

-------------

Dear New Orleans Saints defense,

Please learn to tackle.

Thank You





DougMacKenzie - 9/10/2011 at 10:54 PM

Dear BigV -

No. It's too scary.

New Orleans Saints defense


DougMacKenzie - 9/10/2011 at 10:55 PM

quote:
as I do not bother with the interweb on the weekends and I'm out the door in 10, let me wish all of you foul-smelling, towel-wearing bedouins the best of luck this weekend as you roam the desert in search of glory upon your flea-infested, fart-laden camels....

GO COWBOYS !!!!



Yes, brother! Step into the light!

COWBOYS!!!!!!


Lee - 9/11/2011 at 12:46 PM

The line went up another point on the Cowpokes game. How bad can they get????


nebish - 9/11/2011 at 01:39 PM

quote:
The line went up another point on the Cowpokes game. How bad can they get????


I'll gladly take that extra pt. Would love to see that number hit 7, although I'd be surprised if it did.


spacemonkey - 9/11/2011 at 06:02 PM

don't know whether to root for the knife murderer of the serial rapist in the first game today.


BoytonBrother - 9/11/2011 at 06:03 PM

anyone know any sites to stream nfl games online for free? i'm dying to watch McNabb screw up today.


spacemonkey - 9/11/2011 at 07:33 PM

NFL for free?


bwa ha ha ha

can't even listen on line for free.


Sang - 9/11/2011 at 08:11 PM

When do the Steelers start their season?


Sang - 9/11/2011 at 08:12 PM

Bears looked pretty impressive against Atlanta................


Peachypetewi - 9/11/2011 at 08:21 PM

quote:
Bears looked pretty impressive against Atlanta................


Matty Ice got defrosted pretty quickly . He took quite an asss whipping

[Edited on 9/11/2011 by Peachypetewi]


midnghtrdr69 - 9/11/2011 at 09:03 PM

Cam Newton to Steve Smith deep 6 I would've never thunk it. 4 for 6 120+ yds in first qtr. That was last seasons entire yardage


midnghtrdr69 - 9/11/2011 at 09:54 PM

I'm in shock... First half 9/12 198 yds and 2, yes TWO TD PASSES from the Panthers. Is Cam even half real? Carolina only had 2TDs passing last year in 20 games. Now its only AZ, but this is way out there for me.


midnghtrdr69 - 9/12/2011 at 05:39 AM

Ok back to normal, they choked out and lost the game, despite Cam setting a bunch of rookie QB records. Too bad he can't play on the special teams.


DougMacKenzie - 9/12/2011 at 10:42 AM

Speaking of choking, how many ways can one team find to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory? I'll tell you after Romo retires. Until Jerry Jones relinquishes the role of general manager and someone besides Rom is QB I don't see how the Cowboys can be considered serious contenders. If I was on that team we'd be out discussing the matter behind the woodshed right now.


gondicar - 9/12/2011 at 11:27 AM

Thank goodnes I don't have to root for the Cowpokes on a regular basis. That. Was. BRUTAL.


Sang - 9/12/2011 at 01:19 PM

quote:
Thank goodnes I don't have to root for the Cowpokes on a regular basis. That. Was. FUN.


Sang - 9/12/2011 at 01:35 PM

Although I was looking for a way for both Ryan brothers to be losers.........


DanB - 9/12/2011 at 02:55 PM

quote:
Although I was looking for a way for both Ryan brothers to be losers.........


they did Buddy's their dad


IPowrie - 9/12/2011 at 03:59 PM

Glad the Lions won but man was the ending of that game frustrating to watch


Sang - 9/12/2011 at 05:34 PM


BIGV - 9/12/2011 at 07:04 PM

quote:
quote:
as I do not bother with the interweb on the weekends and I'm out the door in 10, let me wish all of you foul-smelling, towel-wearing bedouins the best of luck this weekend as you roam the desert in search of glory upon your flea-infested, fart-laden camels....

GO COWBOYS !!!!



Yes, brother! Step into the light!

COWBOYS!!!!!!


You would think that with all of this "light", .... Romo's consistent mediocrity would be so easy to see.


BIGV - 9/12/2011 at 07:06 PM

quote:
Speaking of choking, how many ways can one team find to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory?


Seriously...I don't think the team is to blame as much as Tony Romo...The throw to Revis...the fumble...ouch


Lee - 9/12/2011 at 07:32 PM

quote:
quote:
Speaking of choking, how many ways can one team find to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory?


Seriously...I don't think the team is to blame as much as Tony Romo...The throw to Revis...the fumble...ouch



This might seem counterintuitive but I actuallly think Romo is a good QB who sometimes just makes some of the most boneheaded decisions. That INT to Revis was unbelivable.


Lee - 9/12/2011 at 07:46 PM

I'm having the worst week in Pick Em that I've ever had in 6 or 7 years of playing. There were 2 pushes and I have 2 right so far. Every other game I got wrong.


BoytonBrother - 9/13/2011 at 02:39 AM

McNabb was 7/15, 39 total yards, 1 TD, 1 INT. How is that even possible? As an Eagles fan, I had so much angst for him, but now I just feel pity. He had a nice career, and should retire before it gets too ugly.


DougMacKenzie - 9/13/2011 at 01:12 PM

Brady hangs 500+ yards on the fish. Wow.


Lee - 9/13/2011 at 02:16 PM

Hey Dug -

You weren't the guy that brought a tazer into Cowboy Stadium the other night and tazed two people were you?


nebish - 9/13/2011 at 02:23 PM

quote:
I'm having the worst week in Pick Em that I've ever had in 6 or 7 years of playing. There were 2 pushes and I have 2 right so far. Every other game I got wrong.


Are you in our ABB forum league? Week 1 pick'em league results, only 1 person hit over .500 for the week:

1 CFL Fan 8-6
2 LeglizHemp 7-7
3 Space Monkey 6-8
4 Phillybob 6-8
5 steadyhorse 6-8
6 Sang 6-8
7 nebish 6-8
8 DanB 5-9

quote:
This might seem counterintuitive but I actuallly think Romo is a good QB who sometimes just makes some of the most boneheaded decisions. That INT to Revis was unbelivable.


Romo is good in the sense that he is better than 15 other starting QBs in the league, but he isn't among the top 10 QBs either. I thought he and the Dallas offense played a fantastic for 50 minutes of the game until they got inside the 5 where he almost threw the pick to Cromartie and then fumbled on the next play. When the chips are down and the game is on the line, it is hard to trust or want him as the guy with the ball.

quote:
McNabb was 7/15, 39 total yards, 1 TD, 1 INT. How is that even possible? As an Eagles fan, I had so much angst for him, but now I just feel pity. He had a nice career, and should retire before it gets too ugly.


First play of the game was a McNabb INT. As a Minny backer last week I feel supremely lucky to have hit that game. San Diego's early season rust and decent play by Viking D saved me. That Viking offense may take a while. TB and Det D's can probably present some challenges, maybe week #4 can be their coming out party vs the Chiefs?



quote:
Brady hangs 500+ yards on the fish. Wow.


That New England offense was a thing of beauty for most of the game. Brady was great. But while Brady's stats are padded by the 99y TD pass, how about Henne throwing for 416 yards himself? Patriots D reason to worry? Phillip Rivers up next.


Sang - 9/13/2011 at 02:32 PM

McNabb will not do a lot of passing with Peterson in the game.............but that interception was something else...........


DougMacKenzie - 9/13/2011 at 02:52 PM

quote:
Hey Dug -

You weren't the guy that brought a tazer into Cowboy Stadium the other night and tazed two people were you?


I was looking for Romo. They just got in the way. Collateral damage.


Lee - 9/13/2011 at 03:22 PM

Yeah you gotta get to him before the game is on the line.


Sang - 9/13/2011 at 05:48 PM

I thought he looked a little disoriented the last few minutes of the game.......


Lee - 9/13/2011 at 07:46 PM

quote:
I thought he looked a little disoriented the last few minutes of the game.......



Was he looking for Jessica Simpson? I woulda focused on that myself. Eff the defense.


IPowrie - 9/14/2011 at 05:25 AM

quote:
McNabb will not do a lot of passing with Peterson in the game.............but that interception was something else...........


I agree with any look McNabb will lead the lead in int with Rodgers and Cutler tied with him


Peachypetewi - 9/14/2011 at 08:29 PM

Brian Urlacher's mother passed away, heart problem, only 51. Unknown at this point as to whether he will be playing sunday. Hope he got to talk to her recently before this and tell her he loved her.


BoytonBrother - 9/15/2011 at 02:29 AM

Is 39 total yards passing an all-time NFL low for a QB who takes every snap and makes 16 pass attempts? I bet it is.


WharfRat - 9/15/2011 at 01:28 PM

If last weeks game isnt a wake up call, I dont know what is.
The Hawks SHOULD be a pushover. We shall see.


Bhawk - 9/15/2011 at 05:25 PM

Chiefs 15.5 dogs to the Lions.


Lee - 9/15/2011 at 05:50 PM

quote:
Chiefs 15.5 dogs to the Lions.





I think you have two games mixed together.






But that's what happens when you root for the Royals for so many years.


Bhawk - 9/15/2011 at 06:46 PM

Whoop! Yep, 7.5, not 15.5.

Who cares, still sux.


Sang - 9/16/2011 at 04:39 PM

Looks like some tough picks again this week - but at least I'm ahead of DanB..........


Lee - 9/16/2011 at 05:04 PM

Not in your league Nebish. Just saw your post. I need to win money.



Or lose money as is my situation.



DougMacKenzie - 9/17/2011 at 12:45 PM

At least Romo isn't McNabb - yet.


IPowrie - 9/18/2011 at 08:13 PM

Lions 48-3 over the Chiefs, I wasnt sure about the last touchdown but hey the Lions are 2-0 Wonder how hot Healy's seat in KC is


geordielad - 9/18/2011 at 09:10 PM

Roughing the passer call on the Patriots was a joke! Put a skirt on them said Jack Lambert!!!!


geordielad - 9/18/2011 at 09:26 PM

Ridiculous flag on the Pats TD! Put a skirt on all offensive "skill" players - Geordielad


DougMacKenzie - 9/19/2011 at 10:56 AM

Romo redeems himself - at least fopr this week. Bring on the Foreskinks!


Sang - 9/19/2011 at 01:20 PM

Back to reality for the Bears - if they can't protect Cutler they are toast.....


Bhawk - 9/19/2011 at 02:20 PM




Sang - 9/19/2011 at 06:35 PM

That was once the sign of the Aint's........ so there is hope......


WharfRat - 9/20/2011 at 01:54 AM

Yea, my boys are back


DougMacKenzie - 9/20/2011 at 01:35 PM

Romo played with a punctured lung. Ouch.


WharfRat - 9/21/2011 at 03:00 AM

quote:
Romo played with a punctured lung. Ouch.


As much as I have slammed the guy in the past.. I have to admit. Thats pretty effin hardcore.


DougMacKenzie - 9/22/2011 at 01:13 PM

Cowboys and Redskins on Monday night....the 'Pokes have a long way to go to be a playoof team, but maybe they can take a step this week by winning despite all the injuries they have.


jim - 9/22/2011 at 02:22 PM

What is everyone's thoughts on the league trying to protect players, and yet trying to fine them with respect to faking injuries? Obviously, Giant players were faking it, but how does the league determine whether someone was cramping/faking or not? Will this lead to players who are actually hurt staying on the field for fear of penalty by the league? I think a better alternative to fining these guys for faking is to make them stay off the field for 5 or 6 plays in a row and not just one.

Also, how does the league and teams claim to protect players and then give Romo a few shots in the gut to deal with the pain of broken ribs and a punctured lung and then let him go back out to play?

And now Deangelo Hall is claiming he will target Romo's ribs.


Bhawk - 9/22/2011 at 02:44 PM

quote:
What is everyone's thoughts on the league trying to protect players, and yet trying to fine them with respect to faking injuries? Obviously, Giant players were faking it, but how does the league determine whether someone was cramping/faking or not?


Study a lot of FIFA World Cup film.


fensranger - 9/22/2011 at 06:00 PM

as to DeAngelo targeting Romos ribs-what is the big deal. where else should he target? If he targets him high its a penalty, if he targets the knees its a penalty. All he did was state the obvious. It did not sound good but its the truth and how can people get upset about it. The ribs are about the only place that dont draw a penalty but if Hall clobbers Romo in the ribs, he will probably be suspended. LOL


DougMacKenzie - 9/22/2011 at 06:41 PM

I don't have any problems with Hall's comments. Romo knows the deal; he could easily sit out and no one would blame him. If he plays, he takes the risks. It's the freakin' Cowboys and Redskins on Monday night! What's Hall supposed to do, blow Tony a kiss and send him flowers?


nebish - 9/25/2011 at 04:27 AM

Tough games tomorrow. Love the Eagles until I saw the line, I ain't laying 9!

Who is your one best pick tomorrow?

SF @ Cin (-3)
NE (-7.5) @ Buf
Hou @ Saints (-4)
NYG @ Phil (-9)
Mia @ Cle (-1.5)
Den @ Ten (-7)
Det (-3) @ Min
Jax @ Car (-3.5)
KC @ SD (-14.5)
NYJ (-3) @ Oak
Bal (-5) @ Stl
Atl @ TB (1.5)
Arz (-3.5) @ Sea
GB (-4) @ Bears
Pit (-10.5) @ Indy

I don't have a best pick, but am tempted to take pts with Vikings and then maybe Bucs, but wish they were a dog. Tough slate of games I think.


nebish - 9/25/2011 at 04:50 PM

No action in here 15 minutes until kickoff?

I'm starting to settle in on the Jets I think. I was thinking that Oakland might be the play and this could be a tough game, but Jets -3 or less seems like the safer play. Oakland D? As long as Jets don't play too conservative here I like them. If they try to play smashmouth that will play right into Raider's hands. Let it fly Sanchez!! Got some other weird 1 o'clock underdogs, we'll see.


nebish - 9/25/2011 at 06:06 PM

Vick doesn't look right today.


nebish - 9/25/2011 at 06:39 PM

Refs called a Buffalo tackle on Danny Woodhead as a hit against a defenseless receiver. Bill player made helmet contact on what would be considered a near text book tackle on the shorert Woodhead who was an active ball carrier, not defenseless. That "defenseless receiver" sh1t is way out of hand.


spacemonkey - 9/25/2011 at 06:51 PM

I don't think the Giants have a single DB that can tackle. Even Kenny Phillips is whiffing.
They called a bunch of run blitzes and the DBs were there but can't make a tackle


IPowrie - 9/25/2011 at 08:37 PM

Lions come back from a 20 point halftime deficit to win 26-23 in OT. So glad the beat the Vikings who r my least favorite team in the league


WharfRat - 9/25/2011 at 08:58 PM

Can someone lend Vick a hand?


WharfRat - 9/25/2011 at 08:59 PM

Oh, and THANK YOU BUFFALO!!!!!


nebish - 9/25/2011 at 09:01 PM

Serious question, is Philip Rivers the worst statistical QB in the NFL right now? 4 TDs, 6 INTs, couple fumbles. Not even 10 qrts of football and 6 INTs already.


nebish - 9/25/2011 at 11:30 PM

What a pillow fight in San Diego. First time I've had the pleasure of watching the Chiefs this year. Holy hell are they awful, much worse than I thought actually. SD either played down to their competition in a major way or Chargers are the same underachieving team they always have been just with a winning record this time around. Why is Norv Turner still a head coach in the NFL?

My bad on the Jets. I thought they were good. I should know by now not to believe any hype coming from NY Jets camp.

[Edited on 9/25/2011 by nebish]


WharfRat - 9/26/2011 at 12:15 AM

quote:
Serious question, is Philip Rivers the worst statistical QB in the NFL right now? 4 TDs, 6 INTs, couple fumbles. Not even 10 qrts of football and 6 INTs already.


Just confirms what I have been saying about him since day 1.

Overrated.


Sang - 9/26/2011 at 03:43 AM

Squeelers made me sweat out the survival pool - really?


DougMacKenzie - 9/26/2011 at 10:42 AM

Vick is hurt - and so is Vince Young. Vick just takes way too many hits to last a whole season. Very interesting week. I wonder if Romo can stay in the whooe game tonight?


ScottyVII - 9/26/2011 at 02:23 PM

Vick's style of play is conducive to with more contact injuries. He is not a big guy and cannot sustain the number of hits that he is taking for a full sixteen game season. Personally, I thought that Canty's hit on Vick was within the one step rule and his hands were out in front and he hit Vick with his shoulder. Player for player the Eagles outmatch the Giants by a wide margin, but the Giants had a game plan and the back up players--especially Victor Cruz--stepped up and answered the call. Phiily tried to rub it in the Giants face before the game even started by naming former Giant Steve Smith as honorary team Captain. Smith was silent most of the day and Aaron Ross was able to pick off a pass that went right through Smith's hands. All in all a solid performance by the Giants. A team that is decimated with injuries. One can only hope that they get better as the season progresses and minimize turn overs. If that occurs I think that they have a shot at a wildcard or who knows a division title.


piacere - 9/26/2011 at 02:59 PM

without a pass rusher, heck, MacKenzie could throw completions to Sang...

yeah, it's that bad...


Bhawk - 9/26/2011 at 03:04 PM

quote:
What a pillow fight in San Diego. First time I've had the pleasure of watching the Chiefs this year. Holy hell are they awful, much worse than I thought actually.


1000% improvement after 2 and half games came in the second half, finally. Just looking for silver linings at this point.


piacere - 9/26/2011 at 03:38 PM

Doug has a pm I hope he gets to soon...


DougMacKenzie - 9/26/2011 at 07:21 PM

Got it.


nebish - 9/26/2011 at 07:36 PM

quote:
quote:
What a pillow fight in San Diego. First time I've had the pleasure of watching the Chiefs this year. Holy hell are they awful, much worse than I thought actually.


1000% improvement after 2 and half games came in the second half, finally. Just looking for silver linings at this point.


That may be and I will trust your word as a fan of course. Their 2nd half drives, moved the ball and ended up getting them some pts (actually I didn't see their first TD drive), they were so lethargic and error filled, like they couldn't get out of their own way. They benefited from an equally error prone SD D which helped them keep drives alive.

I would have liked to see KC win that one actually just because SD played so poorly I would have liked to see that effort cost them. Threw $20 on KC with the 14 for the hell of it and after watching that game neither team really deserved to win, but the Chargers being a so-called Super Bowl contender I certainly would have liked to seen better execution and effort and coaching on their part.


DougMacKenzie - 9/27/2011 at 01:16 PM

Love the way the 'Pokes found a way to win an ugly game when they were all banged up. Sweet.


Lee - 9/27/2011 at 01:24 PM

Bills and Lions both 3 and 0. Wow...


Lee - 9/27/2011 at 02:11 PM

quote:
Can someone lend Vick a hand?



Talk to Bennie. THREE more turnovers. The guy is killing me. Is he trying to set a record? I am getting negative points from the guy.


nebish - 9/27/2011 at 03:23 PM

quote:
Love the way the 'Pokes found a way to win an ugly game when they were all banged up. Sweet.


I came away from that one with a lot of respect for the Redskin D. That and confirming that Dallas OL is piss poor and they have a bunch of receivers who have no clue what they are supposed to be doing. Dallas needs to force feed the ball to Dez Bryant more. Washington was giving him lots of single coverage it looked like, Dez can win that battle so long as Tony can get the ball there. Great game by Romo last night.

Detroit at Dallas this week should really be a good one. Both those OLs are going to have their hands full. Might come down to which QB makes more mistakes. I'll take Dallas D overall vs Lion D. The offenses are about a toss up?


WharfRat - 9/27/2011 at 06:08 PM

quote:
quote:
Can someone lend Vick a hand?



Talk to Bennie. THREE more turnovers. The guy is killing me. Is he trying to set a record? I am getting negative points from the guy.


The offensive line is...well.. offensive


spacemonkey - 9/27/2011 at 06:26 PM

Grossman chokes again


piacere - 9/28/2011 at 03:56 PM

the plot thickens with Buffalo at three and oh.

gonna be a long haul...


fensranger - 9/28/2011 at 07:55 PM

Bills won squeakers at home, are they capable of winning on the road??? key question


piacere - 9/30/2011 at 01:02 PM

one more sibwlkr thread and this'd be on page two.

slackers.

there's no hiding, don't you know that yet?

PATRIOTS !!!!!!


piacere - 9/30/2011 at 04:39 PM

was messin' around and decided to go to the archives and saw some threads started by PeterNelson

the dude put together some of the most detailed, intricate, complicated and thought-out posts I have ever seen on this board. They were like projects.

was wondering if any of you might know whatever happened to him. Dang, he's one cool dude...


DougMacKenzie - 10/1/2011 at 01:43 PM

Unlike any of your psychotic ramblings. Bring on the Lions!

COWBOYS!!!!!!


Lee - 10/2/2011 at 12:04 PM

Just five hours till the Lions stick a prod up the cowpokes tushie!


DougMacKenzie - 10/2/2011 at 08:41 PM

Actually that was Romo with the cattle prod. Every team in the league but the Cowboys must love the dude. Embarrassing.


Lee - 10/2/2011 at 11:45 PM

I take back the comment I posted that Romo is actually a decent QB. He effing sucks. Cost them the game. How do you blow a lead like that?


WharfRat - 10/3/2011 at 01:34 AM

The TEXANS???

THE FREAKING TEXANS?


Shoot me now.


Sang - 10/3/2011 at 01:32 PM

Step a little closer to the bridge.......


Lee - 10/3/2011 at 01:47 PM

quote:
Step a little closer to the bridge.......



Wait til he faces Verlander tonight.


piacere - 10/3/2011 at 02:14 PM

take it easy kids.

look to the northeast to settle your nerves, escape from the torment of futility and find the light of redemption...

PATRIOTS !!!!!

ya think Seymour still holds a grudge? jackwagon.


Lee - 10/3/2011 at 02:20 PM

I just ran into Marv Levy walking back from the store (he lives right around the corner from me). I never approached him before when I saw him but did this time and we talked about the Bills and Lions turning things around. Nice guy. Very articulate.


piacere - 10/3/2011 at 02:39 PM

quote:
I just ran into Marv Levy walking back from the store (he lives right around the corner from me). I never approached him before when I saw him but did this time and we talked about the Bills and Lions turning things around. Nice guy. Very articulate.


that's pretty cool, Lee.

I heard he's a history buff. Always seemed like a cool guy...


BIGV - 10/3/2011 at 04:52 PM

quote:
Unlike any of your psychotic ramblings. Bring on the Lions!

COWBOYS!!!!!!


COWBOYS!!!!!!....lead 27-3

Good luck this year


piacere - 10/3/2011 at 05:29 PM

quote:
quote:
Unlike any of your psychotic ramblings. Bring on the Lions!

COWBOYS!!!!!!


COWBOYS!!!!!!....lead 27-3

Good luck this year


now now, leave poor MacKenzie alone.

he'll be in a terrible way until...well, next year...

hang in there Doug, it can only get better...


DougMacKenzie - 10/3/2011 at 05:42 PM

Over the last 180 games the Cowboys are 90-90. It ain't getting better anytime soon.


Sang - 10/3/2011 at 05:48 PM

At least they have a large, fairly new stadium to be mediocre in......

[Edited on 10/3/2011 by Sang]


piacere - 10/3/2011 at 05:52 PM

quote:
Over the last 180 games the Cowboys are 90-90. It ain't getting better anytime soon.


the Texans look good, just ask Chuck.

try them.

or really take a leap of faith into the light and follow along on the path to glory...

PATRIOTS !!!!!!


piacere - 10/3/2011 at 05:53 PM

quote:
It least they have a large, fairly new stadium to be mediocre in......


and decent looking cheerleaders...


IPowrie - 10/3/2011 at 05:53 PM

quote:
It least they have a large, fairly new stadium to be mediocre in......


Taking grammar lessons from me


WharfRat - 10/4/2011 at 11:51 AM

Well this season is going to Hell in a handbasket


piacere - 10/4/2011 at 02:04 PM

quote:
Well this season is going to Hell in a handbasket


yeah, the Steelers stink.

Listen, when will you realize, all of you, that the beloved Patriots are on a quest, a mission as it were, to claim what has been rightfully theirs all along but due to galactic re-alignment, have been thwarted by the football gods depriving them of their inherent magnificence...but not this year. This year we reign with glory and might.

I have spoken.

PATRIOTS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Lee - 10/4/2011 at 02:17 PM

They have the worst defense in the league. That will catch up with them at some point Mr Prognosticator.


piacere - 10/4/2011 at 03:48 PM

yeah, we give up a ton of yards and too many big plays...


BIGV - 10/4/2011 at 06:55 PM

Did the Cards get hosed or what?

The Titans play D and Chris Johnson is just warming up...look out.

Donovan McNabb is officially "Over the hill"...looks like Shanahan had it right. Donovan is being outplayed by one Rex Grossman....ouch

They say Coaching doesn't matter. Tell that to Jim Harbaugh in S.F.

Blaine Gabbert has lousy foot work.

The Pats are 32/32 in total defense...wow

The Ravens won't win another SB with Joe Flaco driving the bus

If Tony Romo played for the Chiefs or the Texans, we would never hear his name.


piacere - 10/5/2011 at 12:22 PM

ya just HAD to throw in that 32/32, didn't you...


DougMacKenzie - 10/5/2011 at 12:52 PM

If Romo played for the Chiefs or Texans he would have been tarred and featherd and run out of town by now.


DougMacKenzie - 10/6/2011 at 12:38 PM

A bye week and then the Patsies. Time for a galactic alignment.


piacere - 10/6/2011 at 12:50 PM

quote:
A bye week and then the Patsies. Time for a galactic alignment.


or a QB transplant...


Lee - 10/6/2011 at 01:44 PM

quote:
quote:
A bye week and then the Patsies. Time for a galactic alignment.


or a QB transplant...



Mebbe the Cowpokes still have Danny White's phone number.


DougMacKenzie - 10/6/2011 at 02:13 PM

quote:
quote:
quote:
A bye week and then the Patsies. Time for a galactic alignment.


or a QB transplant...



Mebbe the Cowpokes still have Danny White's phone number.

Tony Romo=Danny White lite.


IPowrie - 10/6/2011 at 04:28 PM

Interesting article I found

A contrarian's view: NFL has become boring -- really, it has

I'm not exactly sure when the National Football League went off the rails for me, when watching the games became an exercise in eyelid-propping. It was before this year, but a game this season brought it all home. Why is the NFL overhyped, over-commercialed and downright dull?

Go back to Monday, Sept. 12, Broncos-Raiders. Here's an isolated sequence from that thriller:

Oakland ball, inside the Denver 5-yard line. Timeout.

Commercial.

Oakland scores on the next play, a touchdown pass.

Commercial.

Oakland kicks off.

Commercial.

Denver fumbles on first down. A challenge occurs.

Commercial.

Oakland is awarded the football after the challenge. Oakland goes three-and-out. Oakland punts.

All together now: Commercial.

It took 10 minutes to run two plays, not including the kickoff. It took 15 minutes to run five plays. It did. I timed it.

Are we watching a football game or the Clio Awards?

For me with the NFL, the clock strikes Zzzzz earlier and earlier.

(In the interest of full disclosure, it should be noted that I work in Cincinnati and have covered the Bengals for 24 years. This extended tour of hazardous duty could have colored my opinions somewhat.)

It's not just the ad time. You can fix that with a DVR. In fact, you can watch an entire NFL game on a DVR in exactly 24 minutes and 12 seconds. I did it. The problem with that is, Guy Next Door is sure to tell you who won before you get to the DVR.

When you combine the commercials with the time spent reviewing plays, the game loses its flow. It herks. It jerks. It lurches from did-he-have-possession-of-the-ball to did-he-cross-the-invisible-plane. Replay takes boredom "to the next level'', as they say. It is the Sominex of the sports world. In the interest of ridding a game played by humans, coached by humans and officiated by humans of all of its humanity, the NFL has created a product that on occasion is unwatchable.

And that's not even the worst of it.

The bigger problem is the NFL is mediocre.

Unless you're a fan of the Packers, Eagles, Chargers, Falcons, Ravens, the News (England and Orleans) or, heaven help me, the Detroit Lions, you are going to see some traumatically bad football. Sooner or later, you are going to wonder why you invested close to four hours of your life watching it.

Why do you think they don't sell out consistently in Miami or Tampa or, sometimes, San Diego? Why do you think the people in Los Angeles aren't nearly as thrilled about the NFL's return as the NFL is? They have nice weather in those places. They don't want to spend a 75-degree December day in a stadium or on a couch.

If you watch a game involving two young and/or bad quarterbacks, you're going to groan, sooner or later. If one team has a great QB, cut the groaning in half. On the rare occasions when it's Brady-versus-Brees or Rodgers-against-Rivers, settle in and enjoy yourself. Otherwise, prop those lids, brother.

Is this heresy?

Is it?

I will get e-mails that lovingly begin "Dear Idiot.' People will cite big TV ratings and (mostly) full stadiums. They will compare the NFL to Major League Baseball, even though I offered no such comparison. They will say that baseball makes stamp-collecting seem electrifying.

It is, I realize, practically un-American to rip the NFL.

Sorry.

TV ratings are boffo for America's favorite sport. They're also pretty good for American Idol. As reality TV goes, nothing beats the NFL. It's real, for one. But how do you stick with one lousy game for three hours and 15 minutes?

It doesn't help my cause that the season already has been marked by some amazing comebacks and lots of offense. Detroit winning at Dallas after trailing 27-3 showed how good the league can be. Problem is, it's not that good very often. It's more like the 13-8 skunk I witnessed two Sundays ago when the 49ers beat the Bengals.

I pitched this idea to my editor at SI.com. At first, he said it was lame. Actually, what he said was, "I disagree with your premise. It seems to me with the Red Zone channel and DirecTV, which allows you to flip around and focus on three good games, watching the NFL is a better experience than ever.''

Sure is, if you have ADD and eight eyes. Me, I like to finish what I start. Trying to watch several games at once -- or with Red Zone, real-time highlights at a warp speed -- makes me dizzy. It's like voting for the Best Picture by watching the trailers.

Gamblers and fantasy players might be hooked. I'm not, especially.

Melodrama has replaced the real variety. Because the real stuff isn't compelling enough to keep us thrilled, we hear ad nauseam about Michael Vick ripping officials or Tony Romo blowing off Jerry Jones or in-depth analyses of Jay Cutler's manhood. ESPN should have given Brett Favre his own primetime hour.

I spent last fall watching Terrell Owens and Chad Ochocinco. They were far more interesting off the field than on it.

In the meantime, the league suffers, as always, from an innovation deficit. One team's off-tackle left is the same as any other's. Heaven forbid that a coach might do something different, such as eschewing punts and using all four downs in all but the most reckless situations. You think baseball managers live and die by The Book? They're Fellini compared with football coaches, who are deathly afraid of losing their jobs by challenging convention.

Very few teams are a joy to watch. The NFL's socialism has seen to it that every team has a chance to be mediocre. Almost all take full advantage. The league discourages personality, so with few exceptions, the players are dull.

I used to look forward to the Bengals' bye week. Football on TV! All day! Then it was midnight. I'd watched games at 1, 4:15 and 8:30. And I thought, "what a waste of a day.''

And that was before two plays required 10 minutes.

Paul Daugherty is a columnist for The Cincinnati Enquirer.

Read more: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/writers/paul_daugherty/10/06/nfl/inde x.html#ixzz1a1I2wgsm


fensranger - 10/6/2011 at 04:36 PM

i think its been a very good year so far except my JETs are losing.

Hey Lions, Raiders, Bills Texans are very comptitive and its making for a great show this year. For a change the Steelers, Colts and Cowboys are not dominating as in the past. Even with Manning, this Colts team would not be setting the world on fire. First quarter is done and now the season really starts IMO.


piacere - 10/6/2011 at 04:37 PM

good article and I agree with it...and also thank God I'm a Patriots fan...

the Pats liven things up with a great offense and lousy defense.

it makes for high drama...


spacemonkey - 10/6/2011 at 08:16 PM

watched the Cowboys collaspe on NFL replay last night, Since I missed it watching the Giants go the other way.


very entertaining, Game ball went to the Cowboy's "third best receiver" Starting for the Lions.


WharfRat - 10/6/2011 at 09:12 PM

quote:
I'm not exactly sure when the National Football League went off the rails for me, when watching the games became an exercise in eyelid-propping. It was before this year, but a game this season brought it all home. Why is the NFL overhyped, over-commercialed and downright dull?



Well those reasons listed above.. But add in the fact that they put effing DRESSES on these damn pasy-assed QBs and receivers.
Having a solid Defense is pretty much gone byu the wayside because they cant HIT anyone for fear of a penalty,or ejection and fine.

No
Fun
League

indeed.


piacere - 10/7/2011 at 12:24 PM

Bretheren

Big game hereabouts Sunday afternoon at 4:15. I'd really love to tag and bag this one.

Have an outstanding three day (hopefully) weekend.

Have fun, stay healthy, be safe.


DougMacKenzie - 10/7/2011 at 12:34 PM

The Cowboys actually have a chance to not implode this weekend and lose a huge second half lead.


Sang - 10/7/2011 at 01:50 PM

Why, is this their bye week?


DougMacKenzie - 10/7/2011 at 01:52 PM

Yes.


Lee - 10/7/2011 at 04:47 PM

All y'all need to get with the program.
















DougMacKenzie - 10/8/2011 at 11:21 AM

I hope you all lose this weekend. Do I sound bitter?


WharfRat - 10/8/2011 at 11:26 AM

quote:
I hope you all lose this weekend. Do I sound bitter?


Just typical Cowboy fan talk


Sang - 10/8/2011 at 04:11 PM

That's a weird looking lion.......


IPowrie - 10/8/2011 at 05:33 PM

RIP Al Davis


DougMacKenzie - 10/9/2011 at 02:27 PM

"Just win baby."


WharfRat - 10/10/2011 at 12:19 AM

quote:
"Just win baby."


Guess the Cowpokes werent listening


DanB - 10/10/2011 at 01:13 AM

quote:
quote:
"Just win baby."


Guess the Cowpokes werent listening


they lost bye? Rome 2 INTS 1 FBL


leafsfan - 10/10/2011 at 03:29 AM

Seahawks dropped a big one on the Giants. Pete Carrol is getting the team going. Seahakks should have beat Falcons last week.

Hence why I did not take Giants this week like some others did in Survivor pool.


DougMacKenzie - 10/10/2011 at 11:13 AM

Giants and Eagles look very disappointing. The 'Pokes look like a .500 team. Watch out for the 'Skins.


Sang - 10/11/2011 at 01:50 AM

That may have been the ugliest first quarter I have ever seen....there may have actually been one or two plays without a penalty........................


Lee - 10/11/2011 at 10:27 AM

The Bears offensive line is gonna get Cutler killed. My God...


DougMacKenzie - 10/11/2011 at 10:31 AM

I agree with both previous posts. My goodness.


BIGV - 10/11/2011 at 12:03 PM

The Lions are scary good

48-3? Really? This week the Niners travel to Detroit. How can you miss this game?

The Chargers do not play like a team that is 4-1

Watch the Texans just fade away. 8-8 wins the AFC South

The Jets need to run the ball more

The Redskins can end the Eagles season on Sunday

I like the Browns this week

Denver management, saved by the bye



DougMacKenzie - 10/12/2011 at 10:30 AM

This would be the perfect week for the "Good Romo" to how up and hand it to the Patsies. We still have 6 wins to go to be mediocre.


piacere - 10/12/2011 at 12:14 PM

quote:
This would be the perfect week for the "Good Romo" to how up and hand it to the Patsies. We still have 6 wins to go to be mediocre.


heh, good one. Nice to start my work day with a chuckle.

thanks bro.


WharfRat - 10/12/2011 at 12:29 PM

Cowpokes/ Patsies this week?

Rooting for a 0-0 tie


piacere - 10/12/2011 at 12:40 PM

quote:
Cowpokes/ Patsies this week?

Rooting for a 0-0 tie


if it were any QB but Romo and given our pathetic pass "defense", I'd be concerned. Dallas might score some points but not enough...

48-6, Patriots.


piacere - 10/12/2011 at 12:40 PM


brofan - 10/12/2011 at 11:21 PM

Well, everything I said about the Bears before the season started was wrong.

Man, do they suck. And will for a LONG time because Lovie Dovie and Jerry Angelo ain't going anywhere.....

And all the Cutler haters will continue to blame HIM for the Bears problems - at least those that know nothing about football. That performance by him in the face of Detroit's frightening pass rush with virtually NO BLOCKING whatsoever (which has not changed since he joined them 3 years ago) was one of the most heroic I've ever seen.

And the ONLY other offensive player worth a sh!t, Matt Forte, they are jerking around like a marionette until they Franchise Tag him after the season.

Worst Ownership/Front Office in Professional Sports. No other one even comes close.

And the fans continue to get screwed - though of course, as my Dad used to say over FORTY YEARS ago, as long as Wrigley Field (they played at WF back then) keeps selling out every Sunday, nothing's ever going to change.

Pity....


DanB - 10/13/2011 at 02:10 AM

quote:
Cowpokes/ Patsies this week?

Rooting for a 0-0 tie


sister kissing Brady and rHomo


piacere - 10/13/2011 at 04:51 PM

I'm pretty sure the only thing those desert-roaming Cowboys are going to like about New England is the foliage, the ocean and the Italian food and seafood...

heh...



fensranger - 10/13/2011 at 08:00 PM

sometimes its really fun to go back to end of preseason and read all of our posts and predictions. It is very funny!!!!


piacere - 10/14/2011 at 12:40 PM

quote:
sometimes its really fun to go back to end of preseason and read all of our posts and predictions. It is very funny!!!!




yeah. That's what makes football, this thread and the dudes in it, very cool.


DougMacKenzie - 10/14/2011 at 01:46 PM

quote:
quote:
sometimes its really fun to go back to end of preseason and read all of our posts and predictions. It is very funny!!!!




yeah. That's what makes football, this thread and the dudes in it, very cool.


Well, except for Sang.


DanB - 10/14/2011 at 02:38 PM

quote:
quote:
quote:
sometimes its really fun to go back to end of preseason and read all of our posts and predictions. It is very funny!!!!




yeah. That's what makes football, this thread and the dudes in it, very cool.


Well, except for Sang.


first sensible for you tumbleweed


BIGV - 10/14/2011 at 05:24 PM

quote:
And all the Cutler haters will continue to blame HIM for the Bears problems - at least those that know nothing about football. That performance by him in the face of Detroit's frightening pass rush with virtually NO BLOCKING whatsoever (which has not changed since he joined them 3 years ago) was one of the most heroic I've ever seen.

And the ONLY other offensive player worth a sh!t, Matt Forte, they are jerking around like a marionette until they Franchise Tag him after the season.


BINGO!...The Bears Defense can only do so much. Not a Cutler "hater"...just see him as an average NFL QB who has yet to place himself in the top ten. Cutler is Jeff George reborn.

He has no weapons other than Mr. Forte


fensranger - 10/14/2011 at 05:28 PM

i happen to think Cutler is pretty good. Not a top 6 or 7 guy but on a par with the next tier like Eli Manning, Ryan, Flacco, Romo. He lacks an O line and i just cannot get excited about their receivers. They do not have a big strong target to go to. He is not the problem.


Sang - 10/16/2011 at 04:58 AM

eff Dug....and DanB..............


DougMacKenzie - 10/16/2011 at 05:54 PM

quote:
eff Dug....and DanB..............



DougMacKenzie - 10/16/2011 at 11:29 PM

The Cowboys even make the Patriots defense look good. Not just any team can do that.


WharfRat - 10/17/2011 at 12:21 AM

Ugly win for my boys today...


gondicar - 10/17/2011 at 01:41 AM

quote:
Ugly win for my boys today...

Those were going around today. Of course, an ugly loss is worse.


Lee - 10/17/2011 at 10:35 AM

Well the Lions lost but that ending was hilarious!


BIGV - 10/17/2011 at 11:01 AM

quote:
Well the Lions lost but that ending was hilarious!


From my couch, it looks Coach Schwartz has pretty thin skin. Following Harbaugh (literally running) down the sideline, only to "Chest bump" him...proved what?....You could read the 49ers coach's lips after that. "Get outta my face" he appeared to have yelled at the Lions coach which just made him more upset.....hahahaha


Lee - 10/17/2011 at 01:56 PM

I get your point BIGV. It was silly but Harbaugh is such a dick that he provoked the whole thing.

Schwartz was dumb enough to take the bait.


piacere - 10/17/2011 at 02:20 PM

that was one mighty fine two minute drill...


Brendan - 10/17/2011 at 02:30 PM

quote:
I get your point BIGV. It was silly but Harbaugh is such a dick that he provoked the whole thing.

Schwartz was dumb enough to take the bait.
Wait a minute...Are you saying that Harbaugh intentionally tried to provoke a reponse like that? I find that incredibly hard to believe.


Lee - 10/17/2011 at 02:43 PM

quote:
quote:
I get your point BIGV. It was silly but Harbaugh is such a dick that he provoked the whole thing.

Schwartz was dumb enough to take the bait.
Wait a minute...Are you saying that Harbaugh intentionally tried to provoke a reponse like that? I find that incredibly hard to believe.


Yeah, crazy huh?

The handshake thing was way overblown. I wanna know what Harbaugh said to Schwartz to set him off.


Brendan - 10/17/2011 at 02:53 PM

I think the whole thing is overblown. Good game though.


Peachypetewi - 10/17/2011 at 02:56 PM

For all the fist pumps and otherwise over dramatic crap Schwartz does on the sidelines every single game I found this hilarious. I also bet schwartz gets a worse fine then Harbuagh.


Peachypetewi - 10/17/2011 at 02:58 PM

quote:
I think the whole thing is overblown. Good game though.


No it's not, Schwarz chasing Harbaugh down the sideline is classic stuff, can't get enough of it, too funny.


piacere - 10/17/2011 at 03:07 PM

quote:
quote:
quote:
I get your point BIGV. It was silly but Harbaugh is such a dick that he provoked the whole thing.

Schwartz was dumb enough to take the bait.
Wait a minute...Are you saying that Harbaugh intentionally tried to provoke a reponse like that? I find that incredibly hard to believe.


Yeah, crazy huh?

The handshake thing was way overblown. I wanna know what Harbaugh said to Schwartz to set him off.


Harbaugh said, "eff Lee". Schwartz, knowing the die hard Lions fan you are, went CRAZY !!!!!!


Lee - 10/17/2011 at 03:40 PM

As some of you may know, I bleed Michigan Maize and Blue. Had season tickets when Harbaugh played there. He was a dick in college, a dick in the pros, screwed over a great university and then that crap yesterday. Didn't the 49ers can Singletary for crazy behavior?


Lee - 10/17/2011 at 03:41 PM

Oh, and eff Tom Brady!


Peachypetewi - 10/17/2011 at 03:43 PM

quote:
As some of you may know, I bleed Michigan Maize and Blue. Had season tickets when Harbaugh played there. He was a dick in college, a dick in the pros, screwed over a great university and then that crap yesterday. Didn't the 49ers can Singletary for crazy behavior?


No,, Singletary was canned because he didn't win games. Harbaugh is winning with essentially the same personnel.


Lee - 10/17/2011 at 03:54 PM

quote:
quote:
As some of you may know, I bleed Michigan Maize and Blue. Had season tickets when Harbaugh played there. He was a dick in college, a dick in the pros, screwed over a great university and then that crap yesterday. Didn't the 49ers can Singletary for crazy behavior?


No,, Singletary was canned because he didn't win games. Harbaugh is winning with essentially the same personnel.



Well perhaps you have a point but the 49ers have stunk for a long time anyway.

But I think an NFL coach pulling down his pants at halftime to motivate his team may have led to his quick demise. And his only coaching job as well.


piacere - 10/17/2011 at 04:22 PM

quote:
Oh, and eff Tom Brady!


...but he went to Michigan.


Brendan - 10/17/2011 at 04:23 PM

quote:
As some of you may know, I bleed Michigan Maize and Blue. Had season tickets when Harbaugh played there. He was a dick in college, a dick in the pros, screwed over a great university and then that crap yesterday. Didn't the 49ers can Singletary for crazy behavior?
Wait...Harbaugh is the crazy one in this theater of the absurd? I'm just not seeing it.


Peachypetewi - 10/17/2011 at 04:27 PM

quote:
quote:
quote:
As some of you may know, I bleed Michigan Maize and Blue. Had season tickets when Harbaugh played there. He was a dick in college, a dick in the pros, screwed over a great university and then that crap yesterday. Didn't the 49ers can Singletary for crazy behavior?


No,, Singletary was canned because he didn't win games. Harbaugh is winning with essentially the same personnel.



Well perhaps you have a point but the 49ers have stunk for a long time anyway.

But I think an NFL coach pulling down his pants at halftime to motivate his team may have led to his quick demise. And his only coaching job as well.


We will agree to disagree. If he had won 10 or 11 games each year there is no doubt he'd still be there unless some pictures surfaced of him mooning the pope or something similar. Further more I think Schwartz is to blame here, regardless of what was said, running down the sidelines bumping shoulders with Harbaugh was pretty bush league. This may be the beginning of the Lions melt down.



[Edited on 10/17/2011 by Peachypetewi]


Lee - 10/17/2011 at 04:38 PM

Pete - are you in cahoots with Brofan? We have twenty whole dollars riding on who has the better record, Bears or Lions.


They will prolly both finish 8-8.


piacere - 10/17/2011 at 05:09 PM

quote:
Pete - are you in cahoots with Brofan? We have twenty whole dollars riding on who has the better record, Bears or Lions.


They will prolly both finish 8-8.


nobody cares.

There's the Patriots and 31 wannabes.

Deal with it.


fensranger - 10/17/2011 at 05:33 PM

how did cowboys just run the ball and punt back to New England at end of that game. Everyone watching knew the outcome at that point. You cannot play New England without being bold and taking some risks.


DougMacKenzie - 10/17/2011 at 05:37 PM

quote:
how did cowboys just run the ball and punt back to New England at end of that game. Everyone watching knew the outcome at that point. You cannot play New England without being bold and taking some risks.


The oiffense was scaled way back. I think it's obvious Garrett doesn't trust Romo at this point, and I can't blame him. We're screwed.


piacere - 10/17/2011 at 05:45 PM

quote:
how did cowboys just run the ball and punt back to New England at end of that game. Everyone watching knew the outcome at that point. You cannot play New England without being bold and taking some risks.


Cowboys I thought did a pretty good job for 57 and a half minutes. Then they got soft, played prevent offense, punted...and that's that.


fensranger - 10/17/2011 at 05:55 PM

i agree, they were in a great position to win and managed to pull defeat from the hands of victory- what a gutless coach!!!


Bhawk - 10/17/2011 at 09:08 PM

The author of the thread title should consider what it's like being a Chiefs fan. Last time they won the Super Bowl, I was in the womb.


Bhawk - 10/17/2011 at 09:09 PM

quote:
quote:
Pete - are you in cahoots with Brofan? We have twenty whole dollars riding on who has the better record, Bears or Lions.


They will prolly both finish 8-8.


nobody cares.

There's the Patriots and 31 wannabes.

Deal with it.


^^^ Reason #7,830,981 why everyone outside of New England hates Boston teams.


brofan - 10/18/2011 at 04:18 AM

quote:
I get your point BIGV. It was silly but Harbaugh is such a dick that he provoked the whole thing.

Schwartz was dumb enough to take the bait.


Harbaugh a DICK? Did you forget he went to MEECHIGAN????

And dick or no, he is one HELLUVA coach. I wish the Bears had him. Oh, do I wish.....

I still remember Ditka screaming at him and almost throwing a clot that time he audibled and threw an INT. One of the great Iron Mike moments ever.....


brofan - 10/18/2011 at 04:22 AM

quote:
quote:
quote:
I get your point BIGV. It was silly but Harbaugh is such a dick that he provoked the whole thing.

Schwartz was dumb enough to take the bait.
Wait a minute...Are you saying that Harbaugh intentionally tried to provoke a reponse like that? I find that incredibly hard to believe.


Yeah, crazy huh?

The handshake thing was way overblown. I wanna know what Harbaugh said to Schwartz to set him off.


I think it's more like what Schwartz said to Harbaugh. He was yelling all kinds of sh!t at him when Jimmy threw out that challenge.

Must've been REAL happy when Harbaugh called that time out and iced Detroit's kicker, who then missed.

VERY smart coach. Now he's gotten into Schwartz's head for the next time they play.


brofan - 10/18/2011 at 04:31 AM

quote:
As some of you may know, I bleed Michigan Maize and Blue. Had season tickets when Harbaugh played there. He was a dick in college, a dick in the pros, screwed over a great university and then that crap yesterday. Didn't the 49ers can Singletary for crazy behavior?


Please explain how he screwed over a great university. By leaving Stanford? By restoring them to respectability?

Leaving is what coaches do, Lee. Either by the front door or by the back door. Jeez, you sound like a jilted Packer fan when a favorite son decides he's had enough of living in the WORST NFL city for livability and signs for more money in a major league town. When Mike Holmgren, who took them to 2 Super bowls, winning one, asked for what any coach would have - total control - they told him to hit the focking road and cursed his name for 10 years afterwards. And then they hired Ray Rhodes, who almost destroyed the team. And was so scared he couldn't wait to get out of town. And then they hired Mike Sherman and gave him everything Holmgren asked for, even though he had never coached a game in the NFL. And he sucked as a head coach. Go figure.

I think you're just pissed that Harbaugh burst you Detroit fans' delusional bubble of an undefeated season....*laugh*


brofan - 10/18/2011 at 04:34 AM

quote:
As some of you may know, I bleed Michigan Maize and Blue. Had season tickets when Harbaugh played there. He was a dick in college, a dick in the pros, screwed over a great university and then that crap yesterday. Didn't the 49ers can Singletary for crazy behavior?


Singletary didn't win 4 of his first 5. Did he even win 5 games in total?

And I'm a big Samurai fan. Love the Letterman skit about Coach Singletary.


brofan - 10/18/2011 at 04:37 AM

quote:
quote:
As some of you may know, I bleed Michigan Maize and Blue. Had season tickets when Harbaugh played there. He was a dick in college, a dick in the pros, screwed over a great university and then that crap yesterday. Didn't the 49ers can Singletary for crazy behavior?
Wait...Harbaugh is the crazy one in this theater of the absurd? I'm just not seeing it.


Me neither. Personally I don't think Coach Schwartz handled his first loss of the season well at all and certainly didn't lose with class. Grow up already. What is this, the playground? Better go get Big Brother or better yet, Daddy.

What "protocol in this league" was he talking about anyway?


Lee - 10/18/2011 at 11:09 AM

I stand by opinion that Harbaugh is a dick.


Lee - 10/18/2011 at 11:24 AM

North W L T
Green Bay Packers 6 0 0
Detroit Lions 5 1 0
Chicago Bears 3 3 0


Well Bears fans, you get one more shot at the Pack and Lions this season.

We shall see.


piacere - 10/18/2011 at 12:23 PM

nice to see Bhawk hangin'...

oh, and eff Bhawk...


DougMacKenzie - 10/18/2011 at 12:27 PM

eEf Bhawk!


Lee - 10/18/2011 at 12:31 PM

Yeah, who roots for the chefs? A waitress?


Bhawk - 10/18/2011 at 02:09 PM

Detroit fans talkin' smack. It's so cute.


Lee - 10/18/2011 at 08:40 PM

Well Mike Brown got out of the way of his own ego In Cincy and made a great trade to unload Carson Palmer. Good QB but probably not worth what the Raiders gave up.


DanB - 10/18/2011 at 10:29 PM

quote:
Well Mike Brown got out of the way of his own ego In Cincy and made a great trade to unload Carson Palmer. Good QB but probably not worth what the Raiders gave up.


the Bengals will use the two draft picks on a Kilo of Coke and a wife beater


IPowrie - 10/18/2011 at 11:28 PM

quote:
quote:
Well Mike Brown got out of the way of his own ego In Cincy and made a great trade to unload Carson Palmer. Good QB but probably not worth what the Raiders gave up.


the Bengals will use the two draft picks on a Kilo of Coke and a wife beater


Or building a young team that can compete with Pittsburgh hopefully


WharfRat - 10/19/2011 at 12:54 PM

quote:
quote:
quote:
Well Mike Brown got out of the way of his own ego In Cincy and made a great trade to unload Carson Palmer. Good QB but probably not worth what the Raiders gave up.


the Bengals will use the two draft picks on a Kilo of Coke and a wife beater


Or building a young team that can compete with Pittsburgh hopefully


BHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA


Oh, you were serious?


These are the Bungles.
They will find a way to eff it up


Lee - 10/19/2011 at 01:07 PM

Get over the fact that the Steelers are not what they were. Come on. Age creeps up on one pal.


DougMacKenzie - 10/19/2011 at 01:15 PM

quote:
Get over the fact that the Steelers are not what they were. Come on. Age creeps up on one pal.


Sounds like the voice of experience to me.


Lee - 10/19/2011 at 01:18 PM

quote:
quote:
Get over the fact that the Steelers are not what they were. Come on. Age creeps up on one pal.


Sounds like the voice of experience to me.



Yes, I am the NFL Sage.


piacere - 10/19/2011 at 01:52 PM

c'mon man.

what's up with you people?

what's next, you're all going to sit around discussing the new fall fashions while you sip your tea and nibble on your crumpets?

Get with the program...

PATRIOTS !!!!!!


Bhawk - 10/19/2011 at 02:13 PM

quote:
c'mon man.

where are my shorts?

what's next, you think I'm going to sit around fantasizing about Tom Brady in the new Victoria's Secret fall lingerie line while I slam scotch and eat bologna sandwiches?

I'm completely hammered.

PATRIOTS !!!!!!



DougMacKenzie - 10/19/2011 at 02:36 PM

LOL! I just choked on my coffee.


piacere - 10/19/2011 at 02:38 PM

quote:
quote:
c'mon man.

where are my shorts?

what's next, you think I'm going to sit around fantasizing about Tom Brady in the new Victoria's Secret fall lingerie line while I slam scotch and eat bologna sandwiches?

I'm completely hammered.

PATRIOTS !!!!!!







oh man, that's funny. Good one.


Lee - 10/19/2011 at 05:31 PM

Who the hell goes undefeated and then can't win the whole thing?


piacere - 10/19/2011 at 05:39 PM

quote:
Who the hell goes undefeated and then can't win the whole thing?


that was 300 years ago.

we're 5 and 1, tied for first in the AFC East.

when the Lions win something, anything, get back to me.

if I'm still alive...


Bhawk - 10/19/2011 at 05:41 PM

"Piacere, come rub Daddy!"


Bhawk - 10/19/2011 at 05:42 PM

"I am TOO sexy of a man..."


piacere - 10/19/2011 at 05:44 PM

that's just wrong...


Bhawk - 10/19/2011 at 05:48 PM

"C'mon, piacere..."



"Touch my monkey."


Lee - 10/19/2011 at 05:55 PM

quote:
quote:
Who the hell goes undefeated and then can't win the whole thing?


that was 300 years ago.

we're 5 and 1, tied for first in the AFC East.

when the Lions win something, anything, get back to me.

if I'm still alive...





Look, we went 0-16. I really wasn't expecting much hot playoff action.

Now going 16-0 and not running the table?


piacere - 10/19/2011 at 05:56 PM

quote:
quote:
quote:
Who the hell goes undefeated and then can't win the whole thing?


that was 300 years ago.

we're 5 and 1, tied for first in the AFC East.

when the Lions win something, anything, get back to me.

if I'm still alive...





Look, we went 0-16. I really wasn't expecting much hot playoff action.

Now going 16-0 and not running the table?


it was 18 and oh...and not running the table, actually


Lee - 10/19/2011 at 06:06 PM

Cheaters!


piacere - 10/20/2011 at 12:46 PM

any one of you got NFL Network?


Lee - 10/20/2011 at 01:08 PM

quote:
any one of you got NFL Network?


Yeah, I get NFL, MLB channel, NHL network and the NBA channel if I need to fall asleep.


Peachypetewi - 10/20/2011 at 02:10 PM

quote:
I stand by opinion that Harbaugh is a dick.


Most winning coaches are.


piacere - 10/21/2011 at 12:23 PM

greetings bretheren and any lurking bretherenettes...

as we have a bye this week and sit comfortably atop the AFC bEast, I will take great joy in watching your second-tier outfits pummel one another into whimpering submission...

have a dandy weekend...


Lee - 10/21/2011 at 01:11 PM

Stop using words we are not capable of understanding.


Lee - 10/21/2011 at 01:12 PM

And bye sounds a little kinky. You should come and visit my gayborhood.


piacere - 10/21/2011 at 05:54 PM

quote:
And bye sounds a little kinky. You should come and visit my gayborhood.


bye sounds a little kinky?

you've been hangin' with DanB too much...


BIGV - 10/22/2011 at 01:04 PM

I think a Tebow led Bronco team is enough to keep the fish, win less

Too many turnovers will lead to the Jets winning

The poor Rams, such high hopes...

I'll go with, Over 12 punts in the Lion's den..

Chris Johnson

Who plays QB if Gabbert ........




WharfRat - 10/23/2011 at 12:11 PM

The Arizona Cardinals??

Are they still in the league?


HERE WE GO STEELERS, HERE WE GO!


Lee - 10/23/2011 at 12:27 PM

quote:
The Arizona Cardinals??

Are they still in the league?


HERE WE GO STEELERS, HERE WE GO!



They better cover the damn spread for a change!


DanB - 10/23/2011 at 12:37 PM

quote:
I think a Tebow led Bronco team is enough to keep the fish, win less





winning the Suck for Luck sweepstakes will keep the Fish winless


WharfRat - 10/23/2011 at 12:42 PM

quote:
quote:
The Arizona Cardinals??

Are they still in the league?


HERE WE GO STEELERS, HERE WE GO!



They better cover the damn spread for a change!


DOMINATION


IPowrie - 10/23/2011 at 08:41 PM

Well anyone else ever see a penalty overturned on review? Still hoping for an 8 win season


WharfRat - 10/24/2011 at 01:23 AM

quote:
quote:
quote:
The Arizona Cardinals??

Are they still in the league?


HERE WE GO STEELERS, HERE WE GO!



They better cover the damn spread for a change!


DOMINATION


You're welcome Lee

Ben was on fire today


Peachypetewi - 10/24/2011 at 11:09 AM

So Stafford limps slowly off the field with the help of 2 people, what a shock.


Bhawk - 10/24/2011 at 02:16 PM

Chiefs claw back to 3-3.

Jaw stuck on floor.


DougMacKenzie - 10/24/2011 at 02:53 PM

'Pokes run the ball on the league's worst run defense to claw thier way back to .500. Who knew?


Peachypetewi - 10/24/2011 at 03:22 PM

The Bears are at 4-3 going into the bye week. they'll be getting a couple starting players back healthy again from injury after the bye. Good chance to make a run at the wild card still.


fensranger - 10/24/2011 at 05:35 PM

all i can say is steelers are playing an amazingly soft schedule this season. sometimes it just falls that way but i dont remember a superbowl contender playing such a soft schedule.

Went to Jets -Chargers games yesterday and had a blast. Great tailgate weather and game was very exciting being a Jets fan. Still amazed at how poor Sanchez is playing. He waited so long to throw a sure TD bomb that the defender got back into play. He must have been 15 yards behind after Keilty (the receiver) made his break. Sanchez pumped and delayed throwing the pass.

While Jets played much better, Sanchez needs to step it up.


DanB - 10/24/2011 at 07:06 PM

Has anyone questioned why Philip Rivers throw the ball out of bounds on 4th and three w/ 4 seconds left? WTH was he thinking the dumbass?


fensranger - 10/24/2011 at 07:46 PM

that was a great question DANB, why did Rivers just throw it out of bounds. For that matter San Diego threw a bunch of short throws over the middle and dallied back to scrimmage as the clock ticked. They probably should have been able to run at least 3 more plays had they moved a bit and worked the ball down the field. And you are correct, everyone wondered why he threw the ball away ?????? In fact Rivers is probably wondering why today!!!!


BIGV - 10/24/2011 at 08:30 PM

quote:
Has anyone questioned why Philip Rivers throw the ball out of bounds on 4th and three w/ 4 seconds left? WTH was he thinking the dumbass?


That was nothing short of pathetic. Maybe the worst "Clock management" I have ever witnessed. Absolutely no sense of urgency and I have to question not only the poor throws by Rivers...But what was Norv doing?....Rivers looked LOST. You are the Coach Norv!...TELL HIM TO SPIKE THE BALL... There was plenty of time and they just wasted it.....


Bhawk - 10/24/2011 at 08:36 PM

Going to be an interesting Halloween Monday Night at Arrowhead. Who knows which Chiefs and Chargers teams will show up?


gondicar - 10/24/2011 at 08:54 PM

quote:
quote:
quote:
quote:
The Arizona Cardinals??

Are they still in the league?

HERE WE GO STEELERS, HERE WE GO!


They better cover the damn spread for a change!


DOMINATION


You're welcome Lee

Ben was on fire today


Glad you enjoyed it, because week you won't.


WharfRat - 10/25/2011 at 01:06 AM

quote:
quote:
quote:
quote:
quote:
The Arizona Cardinals??

Are they still in the league?

HERE WE GO STEELERS, HERE WE GO!


They better cover the damn spread for a change!


DOMINATION


You're welcome Lee

Ben was on fire today


Glad you enjoyed it, because week you won't.


Oh, its ON pal


WharfRat - 10/25/2011 at 01:06 AM

quote:
all i can say is steelers are playing an amazingly soft schedule this season. sometimes it just falls that way but i dont remember a superbowl contender playing such a soft schedule.


Next 2 weeks..

NE
Baltimore.

Feel better now?


gondicar - 10/25/2011 at 12:17 PM

That game last night was BRUTAL. I thought the Ravens were supposed to be good? Hard to believe that was the same team that put a such shellacking on the Steelers in week 1.


WharfRat - 10/25/2011 at 12:47 PM

Looked like a great game to me!

Thanks Jags!


fensranger - 10/25/2011 at 02:37 PM

Ravens are tough to figure out. In truth their offense played as badly against the Jets as they did last night but the Jet offense gave them 21 points. The Jags are certainly not the greatest team in the league.


piacere - 10/25/2011 at 02:42 PM

time to Occupy Pittsburgh.

tough. Deal with it.


WharfRat - 10/25/2011 at 04:50 PM

quote:
time to Occupy Pittsburgh.

tough. Deal with it.


Your boy Brady is going down.

HARD

[Edited on 10/25/2011 by WharfRat]


piacere - 10/25/2011 at 06:58 PM

quote:
quote:
time to Occupy Pittsburgh.

tough. Deal with it.


Your boy Brady is going down.

HARD

[Edited on 10/25/2011 by WharfRat]


maybe after he completes 3 or 4 in the end zone to Welker, Gronk or Branch and a late hit from Polomalu or Harrison? Sure...

it's all in the galactic alignment and numerology, my rodenticeded friend

Pats by 20.


Alwar - 10/25/2011 at 07:15 PM

quote:

maybe after he completes 3 or 4 in the end zone to Welker, Gronk or Branch and a late hit from Polomalu or Harrison? Sure...

You won't see Harrison - orbital surgery on his eye and still recuperating.
Even so, Go Steelers!

BTW, they will be searching Heinz Field between now and Sunday for anything even remotely suspicious - hidden microphones, cameras, spies, etc.


[Edited on 10/25/2011 by Alwar]


BIGV - 10/26/2011 at 11:59 AM

quote:
Ravens are tough to figure out. In truth their offense played as badly against the Jets as they did last night but the Jet offense gave them 21 points. The Jags are certainly not the greatest team in the league.


Looks like Joe Flaco is not quite ready to be an "elite" QB in the NFL. Unfortunately for the Ravens, this appears to be a huge bump in the road.


BIGV - 10/26/2011 at 12:15 PM

Does anyone here play in a weekly "Priority pool"?... I've been in the same office pool for over a decade and the pot has often reached 7 to $800.00. Last week, I won this thing for the first time in over two years. Here's how it works:


List all of the NFL games played in the order you think they are Most likely to win. This week, with the bye, there are 13 games. I have S.F. in the "13 slot" meaning, I am risking 13 of the possible 91 points (13+12+11+10 etc. = 91) that the Niners will defeat the Visiting Browns.... That being the formula, here is my "Just for fun"..hmhmhmm pool, I may or may not have turned in later today...

Balls to the wind, here are my picks for week 8. You have all been challenged. No editing! Highest point total wins. Last week, I won with 71.(out of 68 peeps).... if you dare, Good &%#$@*& Luck!

13. S.F.
12. N.O.
11. Buff
10. Hou
9. Balt
8. Carolina
7. Tenn
6. Cinn
5. N.E.
4. Detroit
3. Miami
2. K.C.
1. Philly


piacere - 10/26/2011 at 12:29 PM

quit gambling years ago, I was pretty hardcore there for a while and all due respect BIGV , I don't give a dang enough about football these days to participate in a pool...

...though I do like your 5 pick.


WharfRat - 10/26/2011 at 12:57 PM

quote:
late hit from Polomalu


Thats hiw we roll pal.

Deal with it


piacere - 10/26/2011 at 01:11 PM

just a few days left in October, breast cancer awareness...about you cool NFLers go over to AG and give a click, help out a woman...


Lee - 10/26/2011 at 01:16 PM

I pick every game every week in a pool I am in. Been doing it for about 8 years. It is fun. Part of our entrance fee goes to whomever gets the most right each week and the rest goes into a kitty for the overall winner at the end of the year. Pays three spots I think.

$140 for the season works out to about 8 bucks a week. Gives you a reason to watch a game you wouldn't normally care about.

Like the Pats.


gondicar - 10/26/2011 at 03:20 PM

quote:
quote:
late hit from Polomalu


Thats hiw we roll pal.

Deal with it


Bunch of cheaters.


WharfRat - 10/27/2011 at 03:06 AM

quote:
quote:
quote:
late hit from Polomalu


Thats hiw we roll pal.

Deal with it


Bunch of cheaters.


Pot meet kettle!


DougMacKenzie - 10/28/2011 at 10:50 AM

Big game for the Buzzards and the 'Pokes Sunday night. The loser is pretty much done in the NFC East.


piacere - 10/28/2011 at 02:53 PM

quote:
Big game for the Buzzards and the 'Pokes Sunday night. The loser is pretty much done in the NFC East.


nobody cares.

especially about the NFC LEast.

listen, once word gets out that the mightiness and glory of the beloved Patriots places them in the top 1%, then Occupy Foxborough gets out of hand, due to the infiltration of wannabes and bedouins.

just don't bring your goats and camels and stink up the place.


Lee - 10/28/2011 at 03:21 PM

Goats and camels? Shouldn't we leave Pats fans out of this?


Bhawk - 10/28/2011 at 03:22 PM

piacere is just happy his Halloween costume arrived.


Lee - 10/28/2011 at 03:26 PM

Nice sack...


BIGV - 10/29/2011 at 02:32 AM

The Ravens will feast on redbird

Yet another relatively mistake free game for Alex Smith

Chris Johnson....."It's not all my fault"

Play the U in the Chiefs game. This one goes to the wire

Andy will shine in Seattle

Giants/Fish. An ugly game for sure, with an uglier ending




Sang - 10/30/2011 at 10:17 PM

St. Louis over New Orleans? Really?


geordielad - 10/30/2011 at 10:56 PM

Broncos fans, Are you familiar with the phrase "Be careful what you wish for"


geordielad - 10/30/2011 at 11:31 PM

Amazed to hear "Rock And Roll Part 2" by twice convicted pedophile Garry Glitter blasting out from Mile High Stadium. Nobody in the U.K. would touch his records with a bargepole!


WharfRat - 10/31/2011 at 12:46 AM



Hi Mark


DanB - 10/31/2011 at 01:01 AM

quote:


Hi Mark


WHO?


Sang - 10/31/2011 at 03:44 AM

quote:
Amazed to hear "Rock And Roll Part 2" by twice convicted pedophile Garry Glitter blasting out from Mile High Stadium. Nobody in the U.K. would touch his records with a bargepole!



Believe it or not, it is played at almost all professional sports stadiums- I have heard it at Bulls games, and I heard it at the World Series.


IPowrie - 10/31/2011 at 03:48 AM

Loved what Tebow did today, Lions are 6-2 which is nice now hopefully the winning continues the rest of the way


WharfRat - 10/31/2011 at 09:10 AM




DougMacKenzie - 10/31/2011 at 11:08 AM

The Squeelers looked damn good against the Pats. The 'Pokes looked clueless against the Eagles. I see another string of 5-11 seasons on the horizon. You can't just trade your soul to the devil for three Super Bowl titles and fire Tom Landry and not expect some kind of curse.


piacere - 10/31/2011 at 12:38 PM

we stink.


gondicar - 10/31/2011 at 01:06 PM

Congrats Wharfie and Steeler fans everywhere, they kicks Patriot butt yesterday in all facets of the game.

Neither side of the ball played well yesterday, but the Pats defense in particular is atrocious.


DanB - 10/31/2011 at 01:52 PM



Happy Steelerween


Sang - 10/31/2011 at 01:58 PM





Happy Steelerweenie


DanB - 10/31/2011 at 01:59 PM

I'm a champion


Sang - 10/31/2011 at 02:27 PM

Bears played their best game of the year on both sides of the ball yesterday..........


Lee - 10/31/2011 at 02:48 PM

quote:
Bears played their best game of the year on both sides of the ball yesterday..........



Wait til the Lions come to town in two weeks.


fensranger - 10/31/2011 at 06:24 PM

Dallas needs a new QB and a new Coach!!!!

As for Steelers- the had a great day and Pats were really flat. All of a sudden Kevin Fault is back on the field after a year off and seemed to get the bulk of the touches. ?????? Almost no Welker at all. Steeler receivers are a special group and if their line holds up, they can beat anyone. I think Baltimore give them a tougher game next week.

Pats defense stinks and the 2 acqusitions of Occo and Haynesworth ???? I


BIGV - 10/31/2011 at 06:31 PM

quote:
we stink.


No, the Pats will be there. You ought to see it through the eyes of a Saints fan, we were pancaked by the... Rams

Scared to death that Rivers is morphing into Tony Romo...


BIGV - 10/31/2011 at 06:37 PM

quote:
The 'Pokes looked clueless against the Eagles. I see another string of 5-11 seasons on the horizon. You can't just trade your soul to the devil for three Super Bowl titles and fire Tom Landry and not expect some kind of curse.


Curse? Haha....The organization is too stubborn to admit that Tony Romo, just might not be the guy. At times the Cowboys remind me of an Indy race car in a field of go-karts, being driven by a blind man.


brofan - 10/31/2011 at 07:38 PM

quote:
quote:
Bears played their best game of the year on both sides of the ball yesterday..........



Wait til the Lions come to town in two weeks.


Yeah, after that game the Lions'll be a game behind the Bears. There won't be any more false start penalties.


DougMacKenzie - 11/1/2011 at 02:22 AM

quote:
quote:
The 'Pokes looked clueless against the Eagles. I see another string of 5-11 seasons on the horizon. You can't just trade your soul to the devil for three Super Bowl titles and fire Tom Landry and not expect some kind of curse.


Curse? Haha....The organization is too stubborn to admit that Tony Romo, just might not be the guy. At times the Cowboys remind me of an Indy race car in a field of go-karts, being driven by a blind man.



I would say that is about as accurate an assessment as one could make of the situation, unfortunately.


DanB - 11/1/2011 at 02:33 AM

quote:
quote:
quote:
The 'Pokes looked clueless against the Eagles. I see another string of 5-11 seasons on the horizon. You can't just trade your soul to the devil for three Super Bowl titles and fire Tom Landry and not expect some kind of curse.


Curse? Haha....The organization is too stubborn to admit that Tony Romo, just might not be the guy. At times the Cowboys remind me of an Indy race car in a field of go-karts, being driven by a blind man.



I would say that is about as accurate an assessment as one could make of the situation, unfortunately.


Romo is not the guy but he's Jerry's boy and Jason looks lost. I think he realizes he doesn't call the shots.

Wott a effing drama. Jones looked to Al Davis as a business model in order to run the Cowpokes!

Go Rooney family!!!


alloak41 - 11/1/2011 at 02:47 AM

The Philly pass rush deserves some of the credit with Romo running for his life all night. No QB is successful with that much pressure on the passer. The defense got carved up by McCoy and Vick and that's not on Romo.


Sang - 11/1/2011 at 02:43 PM

quote:
quote:
we stink.


No, the Pats will be there. You ought to see it through the eyes of a Saints fan, we were pancaked by the... Rams

Scared to death that Rivers is morphing into Tony Romo...




Looks like you should be scared - that fumble on a kneel down reminded me of Romo blowing the field goal by fumbling the snap..........


Bhawk - 11/1/2011 at 03:23 PM




brofan - 11/1/2011 at 10:34 PM

quote:
quote:
quote:
we stink.


No, the Pats will be there. You ought to see it through the eyes of a Saints fan, we were pancaked by the... Rams

Scared to death that Rivers is morphing into Tony Romo...




Looks like you should be scared - that fumble on a kneel down reminded me of Romo blowing the field goal by fumbling the snap..........


Or sexy Rexy Grossman dropping one of his MANY snaps from center when he was with the Bears in between one of his countless fatal interceptions.....


piacere - 11/2/2011 at 01:22 PM

is Rivers saying, "That was the worst thing ever"?

if so, he must be referring to the hiring of Norvicain Turner.

too bad too, besides St. Tom, Rivers is my favorite QB.

not sure who we're playing this week but I hope our secondary snaps out of it.

BIGV thanks for the pat on the back but defense makes it through the playoffs. Right now, to this casual observer, Green Bay looks like a repeat.


Bhawk - 11/2/2011 at 01:56 PM

quote:
is Rivers saying, "That was the worst thing ever"?

if so, he must be referring to the hiring of Norvicain Turner.



No, he's referring to the dumba$$ play he made that cost his team the game.

It was pretty awesome, IMO.


Bhawk - 11/2/2011 at 01:57 PM

quote:
not sure who we're playing this week but I hope our secondary snaps out of it.



Everyone knows how the Patriots snap...


ScottyVII - 11/3/2011 at 04:25 AM

Thoughts on the Giants @ Patriots game this Sunday?


brofan - 11/3/2011 at 04:33 AM

quote:
if so, he must be referring to the hiring of Norvicain Turner.


Most underachieving and worst Head Coach in the NFL. How does this no-better-than-an-assistant coach keep getting job after job when he leaves every organization (and he will be leaving San Diego soon, because once again the Chargers will miss the playoffs) worse than when he got there?

Every time he gets that 4th quarter "Gee I gotta sh1t!" look on his face - which is often, almost every game - you know they're gonna lose. And then they do.


brofan - 11/3/2011 at 04:36 AM

CORRECTION: Second worst Head Coach.....Sparano is abominable. But it isn't his 2nd or 3rd HC job like NORV....what kind of a name is NORV anyway?


ScottyVII - 11/3/2011 at 07:06 AM

I wouldn't cast all the blame on Norv Turner. San Diego is a place where Quarterbacks go to die. Do you think that Eli Manning was going to an organization that has ruined more quarterbacks than any other team. Drew Breese couldn't wait to be traded and I am sure the same is of Rivers. Management an ownership can have a great impact on the overall performance of a team just look at Dallas. I wouldn't be surprised if Seattle takes the Cowboys out this Sunday.


WharfRat - 11/3/2011 at 09:49 AM

quote:
Thoughts on the Giants @ Patriots game this Sunday?


IF the Giants can avoid turnovers.. They win.


BIGV - 11/3/2011 at 10:38 AM

quote:
I wouldn't cast all the blame on Norv Turner.


You got that right. In the Jets game, Rivers and co. got the ball back with 1:11 to go in the 4th Q. Needing a TD. Rivers first two passes were complete for a total of 2 yds...and the clock ran. Rivers next two passes, (3rd & 4th down) both appeared to be thrown intentionally out of bounds . What QB on this planet expects to win by doing that as the clock expires?

quote:
Do you think that Eli Manning was going to an organization that has ruined more quarterbacks than any other team.


Eli and Archie wanted nothing to do with Marty Schottenheimer, nor his son who was the Chargers QB coach.

quote:
Drew Brees couldn't wait to be traded and I am sure the same is of Rivers.


Brees loved it here in San Diego, played his a** off. If you'll recall, he tore his labrum in a meaningless game at the end of the season diving for a loose ball near the goal line. Rivers loves it here, nary an evil word from him.


DougMacKenzie - 11/3/2011 at 11:01 AM

What's not to love about San Diego? Norv was a great assistant under Jimmy Johnson, just like Dave Wannstedt. Jerry Jones was a great GM when Jimmy was the head coach. Now, not so much.


Lee - 11/3/2011 at 11:09 AM

Brees has flat out stuck this year.


piacere - 11/3/2011 at 12:55 PM

quote:
Thoughts on the Giants @ Patriots game this Sunday?


Brady'll get hit a lot.


Brendan - 11/3/2011 at 01:05 PM

quote:
Thoughts on the Giants @ Patriots game this Sunday?
I hope it's a 0-0 tie.


Lee - 11/3/2011 at 03:16 PM

I like the Giants and the points. Pats defense does not exist.


BIGV - 11/3/2011 at 10:13 PM

quote:
Brees has flat out stuck this year.


Aaron Rodgers 239/ 171 71.5 2372 20 3 125.7
Tom Brady 272/ 184 67.6 2361 18 8 104.4
Drew Brees 343/ 242 70.6 2746 19 10 100.6

If anybody is "Stinking it up" amongst the top tier guys it's Rivers:

Philip Rivers 259/ 167 64.5 2084 11 17 80.7


Lee - 11/4/2011 at 10:49 AM

Sarcasm my friend. Rivers has been awful this year.


fensranger - 11/4/2011 at 08:51 PM

Giants offense is really hurting without Bradshaw and Nicks. I think that will determine the outcome. Giants Defense will keep Brady somewhat under control -i think Pats score fewer then 24 points. That being said, Brandon Jacobs just is not the same player he was 2 or 3 years back and without Nicks Giants offense will sputter. Pats 24 Giants 16.


BIGV - 11/5/2011 at 06:19 PM

quote:
Sarcasm my friend. Rivers has been awful this year.


No worries. Believe me, I understand that sarcasm does not always come across as such on the net.


And yes he has. Top of the list?...His last two throws at the end of the Jets game that went out of bounds...at mid-field. What QB thinks they have a Rat's chance in Hell by doing that?


BIGV - 11/5/2011 at 06:31 PM

The Cowboys season is on the line

Jets /Bills will be the game of the week

Tim Tebow 11-31 161 yds. 8 rushes for 22, in another embarrassing effort

This time around, the Pats are at home

Watch the Colts win this week

The Chargers can't afford One turnover

Harbaugh! Harbaugh! Harbaugh!

So many road favorites this week. There will be an upset or two




Lee - 11/6/2011 at 07:21 PM

Um, the Colts suck.


alloak41 - 11/6/2011 at 09:44 PM

The San Diego turnover machine is at it again.


brofan - 11/7/2011 at 04:50 AM

quote:
quote:
Ravens are tough to figure out. In truth their offense played as badly against the Jets as they did last night but the Jet offense gave them 21 points. The Jags are certainly not the greatest team in the league.


Looks like Joe Flaco is not quite ready to be an "elite" QB in the NFL. Unfortunately for the Ravens, this appears to be a huge bump in the road.


Looks like Flacco is now - and that's in spite of 2 of his receivers making critical drops in the final drive. That drive was ALL Flacco.

Maybe now his detractors will give it a rest.


brofan - 11/7/2011 at 04:55 AM

quote:
Um, the Colts suck.
'

Caldwell should be fired. NOW.

Actually he should have been fired when he decided to totally insult Curtis Painter, his 2nd string QB who has paid his dues as Manning's backup, and sign 38 year old washed-up loser Kerry Collins who had been out of the NFL for 2 years because he had more of a "comfort Zone" with him.

I'm sure Colts fans would have more of a "comfort zone" if Jim Irsay would do the right thing and fire Caldwell's ass.


spacemonkey - 11/7/2011 at 04:57 AM

1st and Goal at the 2 and the Giants go cutezipie and turn it over instead of pounding the big guy.
Dumb dumb dumb. Someone should smack Gilchrist upside his head. Lucky to win with that chicken **** philosophy. Eli was tough at the end.

Ravens/Steelers: Not sure if someone was gonna get knifed or raped or both


ScottyVII - 11/7/2011 at 06:50 AM

quote:
Giants offense is really hurting without Bradshaw and Nicks. I think that will determine the outcome. Giants Defense will keep Brady somewhat under control -i think Pats score fewer then 24 points. That being said, Brandon Jacobs just is not the same player he was 2 or 3 years back and without Nicks Giants offense will sputter. Pats 24 Giants 16.



My compliments on a highly accurate assessment. However, I think the Giants' victory came about due to Eli Manning's ability to develop his receivers over the season. Cruz and Ballard have truly replaced Smith and Boss, and despite Nicks being injured, Ramses Barden stepped up in his place and made two critical receptions. Great game through and through and my Giants worked hard, executed and out coached their opponent.


WharfRat - 11/7/2011 at 10:15 AM


Lee - 11/7/2011 at 11:06 AM

quote:
quote:
Um, the Colts suck.
'

Caldwell should be fired. NOW.

Actually he should have been fired when he decided to totally insult Curtis Painter, his 2nd string QB who has paid his dues as Manning's backup, and sign 38 year old washed-up loser Kerry Collins who had been out of the NFL for 2 years because he had more of a "comfort Zone" with him.

I'm sure Colts fans would have more of a "comfort zone" if Jim Irsay would do the right thing and fire Caldwell's ass.



Rich - Carin is a HUGE Colts fan and she said the same thing about Caldwell.

And while I won't knock Collins, how on Earth can you pick a guy up off of the street and insert him as the starting QB? If you have no confidence in your existing backups, why are they on the roster?

I agree with you that it made no sense at all.


Lee - 11/7/2011 at 11:23 AM

In other news, Philip Rivers is just awful.


DougMacKenzie - 11/7/2011 at 01:02 PM

This is a really strange season. Teams may be just now starting to round into shape for who they are going to be this year. The Ravens look pretty tough, but can they turn the corner in the playoffs? Will the Pack go undefeated, or maybe 18-1? Stay tuned.


Sang - 11/7/2011 at 02:49 PM

quote:
This is a really strange season. Teams may be just now starting to round into shape for who they are going to be this year. The Ravens look pretty tough, but can they turn the corner in the playoffs? Will the Pack go undefeated, or maybe 18-1? Stay tuned.



18-1? That sounds vaguely familiar................


Sang - 11/7/2011 at 02:50 PM

quote:






fensranger - 11/7/2011 at 04:35 PM

Wow what a weekend of great games -hope tonight is another good one. I believe Pittsburgh is better than Baltimore and wins if they meet again down the road. Ravens defense did nothing special and Ben was not pressured much at all. Steelers have amazing group of young receivers and their O line is getting better and healthier.

Without Woodley and Farrier last night and Harrison was coming back from a long injury. I am no Steelers fan but I think they have a better shot at being in the Superbowl than Green Bay. We shall see.


spacemonkey - 11/7/2011 at 04:43 PM

quote:
quote:
Um, the Colts suck.
'

Caldwell should be fired. NOW.

Actually he should have been fired when he decided to totally insult Curtis Painter, his 2nd string QB who has paid his dues as Manning's backup, and sign 38 year old washed-up loser Kerry Collins who had been out of the NFL for 2 years because he had more of a "comfort Zone" with him.

I'm sure Colts fans would have more of a "comfort zone" if Jim Irsay would do the right thing and fire Caldwell's ass.


when you put all your eggs in one basket (Manning) you get scrambled eggs when that basket breaks.

Replacing that basket isn't easy either




DanB - 11/7/2011 at 04:58 PM

quote:
In other news, Philip Rivers is just awful.


hey he threw 6 TD's yesterday


Lee - 11/7/2011 at 05:07 PM

quote:
quote:
In other news, Philip Rivers is just awful.


hey he threw 6 TD's yesterday



Heh, that he did...


gondicar - 11/7/2011 at 05:09 PM

Congrats to the motherf@#king Giants and that c*@ksucker Eli Manning on their win yesterday.

(sorry, that's as nice as I can say it)


Sang - 11/7/2011 at 06:13 PM

Don't sugarcoat it ......... tell us how you really feel...............


ScottyVII - 11/7/2011 at 08:11 PM

quote:
Congrats to the motherf@#king Giants and that c*@ksucker Eli Manning on their win yesterday.

(sorry, that's as nice as I can say it)




Expect nothing less from a Mass-hole. Not only do Bostonians have the most annoying accent in the country (followed closely in second place by Chicago) they are the worst sports fans in the country. I know "we was robbed!"


gondicar - 11/7/2011 at 09:13 PM

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quote:
Congrats to the motherf@#king Giants and that c*@ksucker Eli Manning on their win yesterday.

(sorry, that's as nice as I can say it)




Expect nothing less from a Mass-hole. Not only do Bostonians have the most annoying accent in the country (followed closely in second place by Chicago) they are the worst sports fans in the country. I know "we was robbed!"


Scotty, thanks so much for your kind words. I just hope you don't fall off that high horse that you rode in here and made them from.


ScottyVII - 11/7/2011 at 10:08 PM

Don't mention it bro! Happy to be of service and I'll take extra caution with regards to staying mounted on my steed.

Sardonicism is alive and well...he he he


DougMacKenzie - 11/7/2011 at 10:53 PM

Speaking of annoying, where's Mark?


WharfRat - 11/8/2011 at 01:10 AM

quote:
Speaking of annoying, where's Mark?


Whats the highest bridge in Rhode Island?


WharfRat - 11/8/2011 at 01:41 AM

quote:
Wow what a weekend of great games -hope tonight is another good one. I believe Pittsburgh is better than Baltimore and wins if they meet again down the road. Ravens defense did nothing special and Ben was not pressured much at all. Steelers have amazing group of young receivers and their O line is getting better and healthier.

Without Woodley and Farrier last night and Harrison was coming back from a long injury. I am no Steelers fan but I think they have a better shot at being in the Superbowl than Green Bay. We shall see.


Ah.. a voice of reason

A minor blip on the way to #7 fellas.
A little misstep builds character.

I wouldnt wanna be Andy Dalton next week.
Silly pussycats


Sang - 11/8/2011 at 05:02 AM

Da Bears!






brofan - 11/8/2011 at 07:02 AM

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Da Bears!








Normally I don't complain but the ESPN Pregame BS was so biased in favor of Philadelphia it was disgusting. I guess there really is an East Coast bias. There were at least TEN Eagles segments, as usual just FAWNING over Vick, and Andy "The Genius" Reid.

And Steve Young should be relieved of his duties immediately. His anti-Cutler bias is palpable. It is clear that he hates Cutler's guts because Jay refuses to follow Young's "Constructive" criticism. His refusal to give Cutler ANY credit after the win tonight was disingenuous at worst and unprofessional at best. Even Dilfer, who used to routinely rip Cutler, has changed his tune ever since that heroic effort by Cutler against Detroit.

Steve Young really needs to go out and get drunk or get laid or both.....he seems like one of the most miserable SOBs on the planet. Note to Steve Y.: Your playing days are OVER, douchebag. You are now officially irrelevant - and have been ever since you hung it up. Get a life, a$$hole....


brofan - 11/8/2011 at 07:06 AM

quote:
I like the Giants and the points. Pats defense does not exist.


Good call, Lee!

Remind me not to bet with you - oh, Damn, that's right, I did!

Of course, I'll WIN that one.... ; )


dutchoneill - 11/8/2011 at 11:08 AM

quote:
quote:
Speaking of annoying, where's Mark?


Whats the highest bridge in Rhode Island?


I believe its the Newport bridge, but its been awhile since I've been there.


Peachypetewi - 11/8/2011 at 03:11 PM

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Da Bears!









If the Bears front office would provide Cutler with a full compliment of professional Wide receivers like Earl Bennett there is no limit as to how good the guy could be. At least it only took Martz 5 games this year to come to grips with the fact that 7 step drops won't work. The O-line is improving by the week which is what had to happen for Cutler to have a chance. I have come to really like Lance Louis, he has a mean nasty streak. Lastly I believe Detroit is in for a rude awakening this sunday. The game will be televised in the Milwaukee area since the Packers are on monday night.


fensranger - 11/8/2011 at 03:50 PM

Bears have surprised me so far. i am not an Eagles believer- I think Vick is very overhyped and he will have plenty of great games but too many sloppy ones. Forte has been a beast this year and if he stays healthy (no more fumbles) and Bears key defensive players stay healthy they are in contention. Cutler has a great arm and Forte 's running keeps the pressure off Cutler. A nice win, Detroit / Chicago will be a good match up.


Peachypetewi - 11/8/2011 at 04:17 PM

This game is a must win for Detroit because with a win over the Lions the Bears can really put the Lions in a deep deep hole since the Bears already have wins over all the common teams tiebrakers with wins over Atlanta, Tampa and the Eagles.


Lee - 11/8/2011 at 06:08 PM

quote:
This game is a must win for Detroit because with a win over the Lions the Bears can really put the Lions in a deep deep hole since the Bears already have wins over all the common teams tiebrakers with wins over Atlanta, Tampa and the Eagles.


Haven't seen a line yet. That should be interesting.


brofan - 11/8/2011 at 06:12 PM

quote:
quote:
This game is a must win for Detroit because with a win over the Lions the Bears can really put the Lions in a deep deep hole since the Bears already have wins over all the common teams tiebrakers with wins over Atlanta, Tampa and the Eagles.


Haven't seen a line yet. That should be interesting.


Since it's in Chicago, Bears will be favored by at least 3.


spacemonkey - 11/8/2011 at 09:49 PM

quote:
quote:
Da Bears!








Normally I don't complain but the ESPN Pregame BS was so biased in favor of Philadelphia it was disgusting. I guess there really is an East Coast bias. There were at least TEN Eagles segments, as usual just FAWNING over Vick, and Andy "The Genius" Reid.

And Steve Young should be relieved of his duties immediately. His anti-Cutler bias is palpable. It is clear that he hates Cutler's guts because Jay refuses to follow Young's "Constructive" criticism. His refusal to give Cutler ANY credit after the win tonight was disingenuous at worst and unprofessional at best. Even Dilfer, who used to routinely rip Cutler, has changed his tune ever since that heroic effort by Cutler against Detroit.

Steve Young really needs to go out and get drunk or get laid or both.....he seems like one of the most miserable SOBs on the planet. Note to Steve Y.: Your playing days are OVER, douchebag. You are now officially irrelevant - and have been ever since you hung it up. Get a life, a$$hole....


Seemd to me that during the Broadcast, Mike T was pulling for the Bears. Which reminded me to turn off the sound and put on some music.



brofan - 11/8/2011 at 11:12 PM

quote:
quote:
quote:
Da Bears!








Normally I don't complain but the ESPN Pregame BS was so biased in favor of Philadelphia it was disgusting. I guess there really is an East Coast bias. There were at least TEN Eagles segments, as usual just FAWNING over Vick, and Andy "The Genius" Reid.

And Steve Young should be relieved of his duties immediately. His anti-Cutler bias is palpable. It is clear that he hates Cutler's guts because Jay refuses to follow Young's "Constructive" criticism. His refusal to give Cutler ANY credit after the win tonight was disingenuous at worst and unprofessional at best. Even Dilfer, who used to routinely rip Cutler, has changed his tune ever since that heroic effort by Cutler against Detroit.

Steve Young really needs to go out and get drunk or get laid or both.....he seems like one of the most miserable SOBs on the planet. Note to Steve Y.: Your playing days are OVER, douchebag. You are now officially irrelevant - and have been ever since you hung it up. Get a life, a$$hole....


Seemd to me that during the Broadcast, Mike T was pulling for the Bears. Which reminded me to turn off the sound and put on some music.





I guess I missed that part.


spacemonkey - 11/8/2011 at 11:18 PM

Don't think Mike T is overtly biased, he does have to hype plays in selling the product.
Maybe just reacting to some good play by the bears.

He and Al Micheals just can't shut up at all. Hence turning on music.


brofan - 11/8/2011 at 11:24 PM

quote:
Don't think Mike T is overtly biased, he does have to hype plays in selling the product.
Maybe just reacting to some good play by the bears.

He and Al Micheals just can't shut up at all. Hence turning on music.


All I listen to is Gruden, and to a lesser extent, Jaworski. I find Chuckie to be endlessly entertaining and at times hilarious. His analysis, especially on defense, is pretty good too. He has great chemistry with Jaws and I think they make a great team. Tirico goes in one ear and out the other for the most part.


spacemonkey - 11/8/2011 at 11:33 PM

quote:
quote:
Don't think Mike T is overtly biased, he does have to hype plays in selling the product.
Maybe just reacting to some good play by the bears.

He and Al Micheals just can't shut up at all. Hence turning on music.


All I listen to is Gruden, and to a lesser extent, Jaworski. I find Chuckie to be endlessly entertaining and at times hilarious. His analysis, especially on defense, is pretty good too. He has great chemistry with Jaws and I think they make a great team. Tirico goes in one ear and out the other for the most part.


I like Gruden. but I don't find Jaw's comments to be particularity enlightening. His "analysis" is pretty obvious stuff IMO. but it beats Cornholio.


DougMacKenzie - 11/10/2011 at 01:56 PM

Here comes the second half of the season. Wonder who will get hot and make a run?


Lee - 11/11/2011 at 01:12 PM

Lots of great games this weekend.

My picks:

Atlanta E over N.O.
Pitt -3 over Cincy
Buf +5.5 against Dallas
Det +1 against Chi
S.F. -3.5 over Giants
Pats + 1.5 against Jets

Be sure you go against them all.


DanB - 11/11/2011 at 02:39 PM

quote:
Here comes the second half of the season. Wonder who will get hot and make a run?


NY Gents, Philly and Wash


fensranger - 11/11/2011 at 08:11 PM

anyone watch game last night Michael Bush is a bruiser. He could start on many teams including Jets and Pats. In Oakland he plays behind McFadden. Carson Palmer looks pretty good and the Raiders with a decent QB should win that division.

San Diego looks a bit lost. Their O line is decimated and their D looks very tired. I think the finish 8-8. This team does not look like the have a run left. Gates could not get any separation against an average secondary. He looks old and worn out. He was a huge weapon for the Bolts


Vanistheman - 11/12/2011 at 03:41 AM


Well, my Cowboys need to put together a couple of wins to stay in position to catch the Giants in December (they play twice in the last 4 games), but will have to do it against my hometown Bills. I usually pull for the Bills, but not this week. The Bills would have been in better position to take a loss @ Dallas if they had taken care of business against the G-men a few weeks ago!2 under-thrown balls to Stevie Johnson....

Anyway, Garret better lean on DeMarco Murray to pound it at the Bills lackluster run defense, b/c if he gets bored and spends 2/3 of the game with Tony in the shotgun, the ball hawks in the Buffalo secondary might have a lot of fun. And let's get Miles Austin healthy!!


fensranger - 11/13/2011 at 03:51 PM

some great matchups today. Pittsburgh Cincy game s/b a good one. I think Cincy is much better than most people think and while I think Pittsburgh might be the best team in the AFC, i expect Cincy to give them a good test today. Pittsburgh 24 Cincy 20

Jets and Pats are too close to call.

Dallas 26 Buffalo 17

Gmen 20 Niners 18


Lee - 11/13/2011 at 04:48 PM

Goooooooooooooooooooo Lions!!


Sang - 11/13/2011 at 11:11 PM

Dream team looking more like a nightmare......and what was up with Atlanta?


alloak41 - 11/13/2011 at 11:49 PM

Atlanta should have punted on that 4th down in OT.


Sang - 11/14/2011 at 12:27 AM

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Goooooooooooooooooooo Lions!!



Ruh-Roh....................


Peachypetewi - 11/14/2011 at 01:31 AM

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quote:
Goooooooooooooooooooo Lions!!



Ruh-Roh....................


Did Stafford completely melt down or what? And they sure can't play up to all their tough guy posturing and theatrics.

[Edited on 11/14/2011 by Peachypetewi]


WharfRat - 11/14/2011 at 02:24 AM

Silly Bungles


gondicar - 11/14/2011 at 03:30 AM

Perhaps the most impressive stat of the season so far? Thru 9 games the Niners have yet to allow a rushing TD this season.


gondicar - 11/14/2011 at 04:44 AM

Worst defense in the league playing at its best while at its thinnest. Go figure.


BIGV - 11/14/2011 at 11:45 AM

quote:
Atlanta should have punted on that 4th down in OT.


Roman Harper should have intercepted the ball that hit him in both his hands and face mask. Game over.


Brendan - 11/14/2011 at 01:44 PM

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Dream team looking more like a nightmare
Nightmare on Broad Street. Unbelievable.


fensranger - 11/14/2011 at 04:44 PM

jets are an enigma- playing at home in the biggest game of the year they completely destroy themselves.

i am starting to wonder if Sanchez has the ability to be a starting NFL QB. As for their defense, it is very overrated. Bart Scott is a bag of wind. He never makes a play. When crunch time came they had nothing last night. I know they were in coverage all night but they had so many chances to get Brady and did not nail him even once except for the safety. I will say that Gronkowski is a beast. He has remarkable great hands for a guy that size.

Calling a timeout at end of Q2 was idiotic. And how do you miss a FG from 6 yards out that is not blocked.

Once again, Patiots win the division


DougMacKenzie - 11/15/2011 at 11:51 AM

Cowboys almost look like a football team. Probably just an illusion. Does Green Bay have a chance at perfection?


WharfRat - 11/15/2011 at 01:47 PM

quote:
Does Green Bay have a chance at perfection?


Maybe so

Until the Super Bowl that is.

PAYBACK time Mr. Rodgers


brofan - 11/16/2011 at 05:31 AM

quote:
Cowboys almost look like a football team. Probably just an illusion. Does Green Bay have a chance at perfection?


There's no way the Bears will allow it.

And I COULD NOT stand to hear Fudgepacker fans bragging about it - at least the Bears have an 18-1 season in their history. If Green Bay surpasses it I may have to kill myself.

Packer fans, without a doubt, are THE most obnoxious and insufferable sports fans on the planet.

Somebody, anybody, knock those f*ckers off. PLEASE.


spacemonkey - 11/16/2011 at 07:16 AM

quote:
quote:
Cowboys almost look like a football team. Probably just an illusion. Does Green Bay have a chance at perfection?


There's no way the Bears will allow it.

And I COULD NOT stand to hear Fudgepacker fans bragging about it - at least the Bears have an 18-1 season in their history. If Green Bay surpasses it I may have to kill myself.

Packer fans, without a doubt, are THE most obnoxious and insufferable sports fans on the planet.

Somebody, anybody, knock those f*ckers off. PLEASE.


It looks like you can run the ball on the packers. Just have to play enough defense to not fall too far behind to still be able run the ball. Their offense is hitting on all cylinders very efficient.




DougMacKenzie - 11/16/2011 at 11:55 AM

quote:
quote:
Cowboys almost look like a football team. Probably just an illusion. Does Green Bay have a chance at perfection?


There's no way the Bears will allow it.

And I COULD NOT stand to hear Fudgepacker fans bragging about it - at least the Bears have an 18-1 season in their history. If Green Bay surpasses it I may have to kill myself.

Packer fans, without a doubt, are THE most obnoxious and insufferable sports fans on the planet.

Somebody, anybody, knock those f*ckers off. PLEASE.


I hate the Packers. And the Squeelers. And the Pats, and Buzzards, and the Skinks, and oh yeah, the Chipmunks.........you get the idea.

COWBOYS!!!!!!


WharfRat - 11/16/2011 at 11:58 AM

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quote:
Cowboys almost look like a football team. Probably just an illusion. Does Green Bay have a chance at perfection?


There's no way the Bears will allow it.

And I COULD NOT stand to hear Fudgepacker fans bragging about it - at least the Bears have an 18-1 season in their history. If Green Bay surpasses it I may have to kill myself.

Packer fans, without a doubt, are THE most obnoxious and insufferable sports fans on the planet.

Somebody, anybody, knock those f*ckers off. PLEASE.


Replace the Pats with that and I am with ya


Lee - 11/16/2011 at 01:12 PM

No offense to any Pats fans that post here but my goodness, I have never met worst fans. And I am a Michigan fan that can get along with Notre Dame and Ohio State backers.

Hey, it's just sports.


piacere - 11/16/2011 at 02:14 PM

quote:
No offense to any Pats fans that post here but my goodness, I have never met worst fans. And I am a Michigan fan that can get along with Notre Dame and Ohio State backers.

Hey, it's just sports.


no offense taken by me. As MacKenzie can attest to in one of my latest pm's to him, sports, pro sports in particular, are nowhere near what they used to be, both on the field and how I feel about them. I've really lost a lot of interest in pro sports. A lot. I haven't seen a whole game yet this year.
My "bedouins" and "glory and might" shtick, I'm sure you all know, is just for laughs...at least I hope someone gets a chuckle out of it. I know it makes for a good edit for Bhawk

fact is, with what I've got going on, I couldn't care much less about sports right now...


piacere - 11/16/2011 at 02:15 PM

...but yeah, we are an obnoxious bunch.


Sang - 11/16/2011 at 02:33 PM

look who crawled back out of the desert.........


brofan - 11/17/2011 at 01:25 AM

quote:
quote:
quote:
Cowboys almost look like a football team. Probably just an illusion. Does Green Bay have a chance at perfection?


There's no way the Bears will allow it.

And I COULD NOT stand to hear Fudgepacker fans bragging about it - at least the Bears have an 18-1 season in their history. If Green Bay surpasses it I may have to kill myself.

Packer fans, without a doubt, are THE most obnoxious and insufferable sports fans on the planet.

Somebody, anybody, knock those f*ckers off. PLEASE.


It looks like you can run the ball on the packers. Just have to play enough defense to not fall too far behind to still be able run the ball. Their offense is hitting on all cylinders very efficient.






You need to have a pass rush too. The Bears had Rodgers running for his life in last year's NFC Championship game and he did play well at all. They can be beaten if you can get to him and knock him down a few times. Unfortunately nobody has this season, including Da Bears - yet.


brofan - 11/17/2011 at 01:29 AM

quote:
No offense to any Pats fans that post here but my goodness, I have never met worst fans. And I am a Michigan fan that can get along with Notre Dame and Ohio State backers.

Hey, it's just sports.


At the college level NO ONE is worse than Ohio State Buckeye fans. They are ALL OVER down here in the Carolinas. I used to live next door to one who hung out his BUTT UGLY OSU flag on every game day. I would avoid him for days (well, I would avoid him anyway) if they lost.

Like most people that have nothing else going on in their lives, they are boring, one-dimensional, prone to wild mood swings, and just plain awful to be around. And that's if they win.


DougMacKenzie - 11/17/2011 at 01:38 AM

quote:
Like most people that have nothing else going on in their lives, they are boring, one-dimensional, prone to wild mood swings, and just plain awful to be around. And that's if they win.


How long have you known Sang?


brofan - 11/17/2011 at 01:40 AM

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quote:
Like most people that have nothing else going on in their lives, they are boring, one-dimensional, prone to wild mood swings, and just plain awful to be around. And that's if they win.


How long have you known Sang?


WAY too long....


WharfRat - 11/17/2011 at 03:59 AM

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quote:
quote:
Like most people that have nothing else going on in their lives, they are boring, one-dimensional, prone to wild mood swings, and just plain awful to be around. And that's if they win.


How long have you known Sang?


WAY too long....


My condolences


Sang - 11/17/2011 at 06:01 PM

Rich may have been the first person I met from the site....... but in spite of that I still come here.....


DougMacKenzie - 11/17/2011 at 07:09 PM

quote:
Rich may have been the first person I met from the site....... but in spite of that I still come here.....

Poor Rich.


DanB - 11/17/2011 at 07:16 PM

We should send Rich a sympathy card.


IPowrie - 11/17/2011 at 08:11 PM

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quote:
quote:
quote:
Cowboys almost look like a football team. Probably just an illusion. Does Green Bay have a chance at perfection?


There's no way the Bears will allow it.

And I COULD NOT stand to hear Fudgepacker fans bragging about it - at least the Bears have an 18-1 season in their history. If Green Bay surpasses it I may have to kill myself.

Packer fans, without a doubt, are THE most obnoxious and insufferable sports fans on the planet.

Somebody, anybody, knock those f*ckers off. PLEASE.


It looks like you can run the ball on the packers. Just have to play enough defense to not fall too far behind to still be able run the ball. Their offense is hitting on all cylinders very efficient.






You need to have a pass rush too. The Bears had Rodgers running for his life in last year's NFC Championship game and he did play well at all. They can be beaten if you can get to him and knock him down a few times. Unfortunately nobody has this season, including Da Bears - yet.


Sounds like what the Lions did last year when they beat the Packers 7-3 and it sounds like a plan which will lead to a Turkey Day win. Also they will beat Carolina this week


bluedad - 11/17/2011 at 10:05 PM


Go Cowboys


[Edited on 11/17/2011 by bluedad]


bluedad - 11/18/2011 at 12:47 AM

Thought this was very funny....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RUGq8hIBuhQ&feature=player_embedded


DougMacKenzie - 11/18/2011 at 03:47 AM

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Go Cowboys



Bluedad, you sir, are a genius. Unlike the rest of these flea infested, zombie bitten bottomdwellers.


bluedad - 11/18/2011 at 04:16 AM

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quote:

Go Cowboys



Bluedad, you sir, are a genius. Unlike the rest of these flea infested, zombie bitten bottomdwellers.



LOL...

Still waiting for the Pokes to put two or three great games together, however they looked awesome last Sunday....


Sang - 11/18/2011 at 04:54 AM

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quote:

Go Cowboys



Bluedad, you sir, are a genius. Unlike the rest of these flea infested, zombie bitten bottomdwellers.




I'm guessing you've never met bluedad.....................


WharfRat - 11/18/2011 at 11:47 AM

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quote:
quote:

Go Cowboys



Bluedad, you sir, are a genius. Unlike the rest of these flea infested, zombie bitten bottomdwellers.




I'm guessing you've never met bluedad.....................


Thats quite obvious


Vanistheman - 11/18/2011 at 04:53 PM

I am not a Tebow fan, nor detractor, but I really enjoyed watching the Broncos play that kind of football last night. They got a little predictable and less effective in the 2nd and 3rd quarters, but the option and the full back hand-offs and play action screens, etc., are fun to watch. I guess i just enjoy when teams show that you can win football games without winging the ball all over the field all of the time. I like that it gives the analysts pause with respect to their "conventional" pro wisdom. Football is football. Move the chains, kick it well, stop the other guys. many ways to the victory

And watching the Jets lose helped me feel like the hometown Bills got a boost despite getting whipped by my Cowboys!! Not that I had any sympathy for the Bills during that game, but they are a likable group and it's good for the city when they are doing well.


fensranger - 11/18/2011 at 08:18 PM

being a huge Jets fan, last night was about as bad as it gets. Looking forward to Ryan eating some crow and getting rid of our offensive coordinator finally. No playoffs this year. Jets have packed it in. Such poor coaching and game planning all season.

What a waste of talent. Santonio Holmes is a legitimate superstar IMO and the best offensive player on the team except for Mangold. He just sits around all game and watches the pathetic play calling and poor excuse for a QB. Considering Revis takes away the best receiver on the other team, the defense is also a poor excuse for a unit. David Harris is an all pro, Cromartie is solid and Leonard and Wilson decent, but Bart Scott and Calvin Pace should retire.




Sang - 11/21/2011 at 12:49 AM

Da Bears! Another bad week for me picking games, though.......


Sang - 11/21/2011 at 04:44 AM

Ruh-roh......Cutler broke his thumb and may be done for the year............


Lee - 11/21/2011 at 11:36 AM

If I get tonight's game right, I win the weekly pool I am in (~$160). Not sure what to do. Chefs are getting 14.5 points. I am leaning that way for some reason.


Lee - 11/21/2011 at 11:46 AM

Too bad about Cutler. Done for the year. They are already talking about picking up a veteran QB as their starter. Sounds just like what the Colts did. And how did that work out?


Vanistheman - 11/21/2011 at 04:45 PM


To quote Thin Lizzy ...........

We just got to keep it rolling against a very improved Dolphins team on Thursday. And then take it to Arizona putting themselves in good shape going into the Sunday night Giants game in December. The G-men have a couple of tough game in the interim as well

Go Cowboys!


fensranger - 11/21/2011 at 04:59 PM

well cowboys finally won a game that they didnt deserve to win. they have certainly had a few going the other way this year. G Men should be disgusted with themselves. Running Jacobs every first down all night and gaining 2 yards. They had one miserable gameplan. Also their defense pulled a Jets down the stretch, letting Eagles march down the field for 10 minutes and then allowing Eagles to run out the clock. Giants managed to dig quite a hole now.


brofan - 11/21/2011 at 06:53 PM

quote:
Too bad about Cutler. Done for the year. They are already talking about picking up a veteran QB as their starter. Sounds just like what the Colts did. And how did that work out?


He'll be back for the playoffs.

And I stick with my pre-season prediction (which many of you said I was insane to make) that the Bears will win 10 games. Hanie is WAY better than any retread they could pick up off the scrap heap. He almost won them the NFC Championship Game last year after Tod Collins, who NEVER should have been on the roster in the first place and was Martz's choice, almost pissed it away single-handedly.

Winning 3 games against the NFC West should not be a problem the way the Bears' D is playing. 9 turnovers forced (6 INTs and 3 fumbles) in the last 2 games....


brofan - 11/21/2011 at 07:14 PM

quote:
quote:
if so, he must be referring to the hiring of Norvicain Turner.


Most underachieving and worst Head Coach in the NFL. How does this no-better-than-an-assistant coach keep getting job after job when he leaves every organization (and he will be leaving San Diego soon, because once again the Chargers will miss the playoffs) worse than when he got there?

Every time he gets that 4th quarter "Gee I gotta sh1t!" look on his face - which is often, almost every game - you know they're gonna lose. And then they do.


Posted on 11-3: PROVEN yesterday.

ONLY Norv Turner would call a time-out with one left and THEN CHALLENGE - which he then lost, resulting in NO time outs and no way to stop the clock while behind by 11.

Dumbest and worst head coach in the NFL. If I was a San Diego fan I would DEMAND that he be fired TODAY. His teams have underachieved every year he has been a HC, and not just in SD - they sucked when he was in Washington, too.

And all the proof anyone should need is how Rivers is just falling apart this season. Turner is supposed to an offensive genius? Wouldn't developing quarterbacks to reach their full potential fall under his responsibilities?

His head coaching is offensive, all right - typical offensive minded coach who places all the load on the QB - doesn't believe in or value the running game (witness giving up on and getting rid of LT while he still had something in the tank) and places no value whatsoever on building a strong defense.

This guy is a trainwreck and a loser. Why he continues to get HC job after HC job is beyond my understanding....


Lee - 11/21/2011 at 08:36 PM

Rich, for once I agree with you.

I like Hanie. And as I opined about the Colts situation, why on earth do you grab some guy off the street when you have two guys on your roster that already know the system?

Seems silly to me.


Peachypetewi - 11/21/2011 at 08:56 PM

quote:
Too bad about Cutler. Done for the year. They are already talking about picking up a veteran QB as their starter. Sounds just like what the Colts did. And how did that work out?


Completely wrong, I listened to the SCORE on my drive home from the UP today, nobody from the Bears ever said the veteran QB would be the starter, they are looking for Hanies backup.

Now today Lovie Smith just said Cutler would be back before the end of the season so perhaps after consulting with different specialists assuming you can take Lovie at his word, it is not a season ending injury.

[Edited on 11/21/2011 by Peachypetewi]


Lee - 11/21/2011 at 09:24 PM

quote:
quote:
Too bad about Cutler. Done for the year. They are already talking about picking up a veteran QB as their starter. Sounds just like what the Colts did. And how did that work out?


Completely wrong, I listened to the SCORE on my drive home from the UP today, nobody from the Bears ever said the veteran QB would be the starter, they are looking for Hanies backup.

Now today Lovie Smith just said Cutler would be back before the end of the season so perhaps after consulting with different specialists assuming you can take Lovie at his word, it is not a season ending injury.

[Edited on 11/21/2011 by Peachypetewi]



So you hear something on the radio and any other thing on the news is completely wrong?

But hey, you heard it so I guess it must be true.


spacemonkey - 11/21/2011 at 09:31 PM

Everyone runs the ball on the eagles and the Giants and that genius play caller Gilbright barely tried.

dumb dumb dumb


Peachypetewi - 11/21/2011 at 10:09 PM

quote:
quote:
quote:
Too bad about Cutler. Done for the year. They are already talking about picking up a veteran QB as their starter. Sounds just like what the Colts did. And how did that work out?


Completely wrong, I listened to the SCORE on my drive home from the UP today, nobody from the Bears ever said the veteran QB would be the starter, they are looking for Hanies backup.

Now today Lovie Smith just said Cutler would be back before the end of the season so perhaps after consulting with different specialists assuming you can take Lovie at his word, it is not a season ending injury.

[Edited on 11/21/2011 by Peachypetewi]





So you hear something on the radio and any other thing on the news is completely wrong?

But hey, you heard it so I guess it must be true.


I heard Lovie Smiths entire press conference word for word where he unequivocally stated it. Is that good enough for you Einstein? WTF is your problem?

[Edited on 11/21/2011 by Peachypetewi]


brofan - 11/21/2011 at 11:43 PM

quote:
quote:
quote:
quote:
Too bad about Cutler. Done for the year. They are already talking about picking up a veteran QB as their starter. Sounds just like what the Colts did. And how did that work out?


Completely wrong, I listened to the SCORE on my drive home from the UP today, nobody from the Bears ever said the veteran QB would be the starter, they are looking for Hanies backup.

Now today Lovie Smith just said Cutler would be back before the end of the season so perhaps after consulting with different specialists assuming you can take Lovie at his word, it is not a season ending injury.

[Edited on 11/21/2011 by Peachypetewi]





So you hear something on the radio and any other thing on the news is completely wrong?

But hey, you heard it so I guess it must be true.


I heard Lovie Smiths entire press conference word for word where he unequivocally stated it. Is that good enough for you Einstein? WTF is your problem?

[Edited on 11/21/2011 by Peachypetewi]


Wow.


DanB - 11/22/2011 at 02:54 AM

I will be replacing Cutler as announced on WAVE 104.1 today


WharfRat - 11/22/2011 at 03:17 AM

Maybe they can get Favre out of retirement


Lee - 11/22/2011 at 08:28 AM

quote:
quote:
quote:
quote:
Too bad about Cutler. Done for the year. They are already talking about picking up a veteran QB as their starter. Sounds just like what the Colts did. And how did that work out?


Completely wrong, I listened to the SCORE on my drive home from the UP today, nobody from the Bears ever said the veteran QB would be the starter, they are looking for Hanies backup.

Now today Lovie Smith just said Cutler would be back before the end of the season so perhaps after consulting with different specialists assuming you can take Lovie at his word, it is not a season ending injury.

[Edited on 11/21/2011 by Peachypetewi]





So you hear something on the radio and any other thing on the news is completely wrong?

But hey, you heard it so I guess it must be true.


I heard Lovie Smiths entire press conference word for word where he unequivocally stated it. Is that good enough for you Einstein? WTF is your problem?

[Edited on 11/21/2011 by Peachypetewi]



Just trying to have a friendly football conversation not a fight Pete. Pardon me.


Lee - 11/22/2011 at 08:31 AM

In other news, I won my fantasy football game this week. I have Rob Gronkowski of the Pats. That guy is having a MONSTER year.

[Edited on 11/22/2011 by Lee]


Lee - 11/22/2011 at 08:51 AM

And does anyone think the Lions have a shot at knocking off the Pack Thursday? On the surface it doesn't seem so, but I think they might be able to do so.


gondicar - 11/22/2011 at 12:54 PM

quote:
In other news, I won my fantasy football game this week. I have Ron Gronkowski of the Pats. That guy is having a MONSTER year.


Nice.

So did you end up taking the Pats or the points? Didn't look like they had any hope of covering after the first 4 drives, but eventually they got their act together.


Lee - 11/22/2011 at 02:29 PM

quote:
quote:
In other news, I won my fantasy football game this week. I have Ron Gronkowski of the Pats. That guy is having a MONSTER year.


Nice.

So did you end up taking the Pats or the points? Didn't look like they had any hope of covering after the first 4 drives, but eventually they got their act together.




I was dumb enough to take the points. I figured they could at least keep it close. I would have won my pool with one more win.

Pats are starting to look like the Pats. Still not sure I trust their defense but Brady can outscore anyone so maybe it isn't such a big deal.


Bhawk - 11/22/2011 at 04:26 PM

quote:
And does anyone think the Lions have a shot at knocking off the Pack Thursday? On the surface it doesn't seem so, but I think they might be able to do so.


Methinks that is the upset special this week.


fensranger - 11/22/2011 at 04:26 PM

Lions have a shot to beat the Pack IMO. The Pack offense if fantastic but Detroit has a pass rush and if they can avoid turnovers, Detroit has plenty of offensive weapons. I think the game will test Green Bay. They are playing on the road and Green Bay defense while it creates turnovers, is no big deal.

If Stafford does not throw some stupid picks, i think Detroit has a good shot. The Pack is not going to run the table IMO.


brofan - 11/22/2011 at 07:23 PM

quote:
And does anyone think the Lions have a shot at knocking off the Pack Thursday? On the surface it doesn't seem so, but I think they might be able to do so.


Yes. If you can get to Rodgers, i.e. knock him down (as the Bears did in the NFC Championship Game last January) he can be rattled and the Pack can be beaten. The Lions have the defense to do it - as long as they don't do something stupid and get penalized for unnecessarily playing dirty.

Green Bay also has the 30th best defense in the league (or the 3rd worst, depending on how you look at it) - they're giving up almost 400 YPG, so if Stafford (as much as I think he is a whiny little pr!ck) and the Megatron can hook up and Kevin Smith has another big game GB can definitely be knocked off. They're ripe - they almost lost to Tampa Bay last week and Detroit is a lot better than TB.

As much it pains me to say it (because I hate Jim Schwartz's guts - he is the biggest baby of NFL coaches, cries about EVERY penalty called against his team, which is the dirtiest in the league and which he refuses to control) I'll be rooting for the Lions. Because I hate Green Bay Packer Fans more than just about anything else on Earth....

[Edited on 11/22/2011 by brofan]


WharfRat - 11/23/2011 at 03:19 AM

Orton released by Denver..

Maybe a return to Chicago?


Sang - 11/23/2011 at 04:15 AM

quote:
Orton released by Denver..

Maybe a return to Chicago?



Maybe. But only in case Hanie gets hurt.


brofan - 11/23/2011 at 06:06 PM

quote:
Orton released by Denver..

Maybe a return to Chicago?


Yes. Absolute no brainer. When Cutler went down Orton told his agent to ask Denver to release him so that he could sign with the Bears.

It'll happen. Great situation for the Bears.


brofan - 11/23/2011 at 06:18 PM

Bears to claim Orton:

http://espn.go.com/chicago/nfl/story/_/id/7269812/sources-chicago-bears-put -claim-qb-kyle-orton


brofan - 11/23/2011 at 09:31 PM

So the Bears FINALLY have a chance to something RIGHT and they screw it up. Orton WANTED to come to Chicago and obviously the McCaskeys wouldn't pony up the extra cash. The Bears are $20 MILLION under the cap....not like they didn't have the room.

Here are McCown's stats:

Season Team League GP Comp Att Pct Yds TD INT Att Yds TD
2002 Arizona NFL 2 7 18 38.9 66 0 2 1 20 0
2003 Arizona NFL 8 95 166 57.2 1018 5 6 28 158 1
2004 Arizona NFL 14 233 408 57.1 2511 11 10 36 112 2
2005 Arizona NFL 9 163 270 60.4 1838 9 11 29 139 0
2006 Detroit NFL 2 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
2007 Oakland NFL 9 111 190 58.4 1151 10 11 29 143 0
2008 Carolina NFL 2 0 0 0 0 0 0 4 -3 0
Regular season totals 46 609 1052 57.9 6582 35 40 127 569 3

What a LOSER.

Way to go, Bears.


Peachypetewi - 11/24/2011 at 12:30 AM

Rich the Bears had absolutely no chance to get Orton because KC and Dallas both put in claims after Orton cleared waivers. The team with the worst record gets first shot at him by NFL league rules. Your barking up the wrong tree.


brofan - 11/24/2011 at 02:03 AM

quote:
Rich the Bears had absolutely no chance to get Orton because KC and Dallas both put in claims after Orton cleared waivers. The team with the worst record gets first shot at him by NFL league rules. Your barking up the wrong tree.


You're right. I'm just frustrated. I thought it would have been a perfect fit.


BIGV - 11/24/2011 at 12:06 PM

I think Caleb Hanie will impress

The Lions/Pack will go to the wire

If the 49ers win after traveling 3 times zones, on three days rest, will you believe?

Count me amongst those who "know" it is only a matter of time before the league figures out how to negate Tim Tebow

The Rams win for the third time

If you're a Texans fan, good luck with lefty

Take the O on Monday night

Say goodbye to Norv


DougMacKenzie - 11/24/2011 at 12:40 PM

Looking forward to a great day opf food, family, and football. Happy Thanksgiving to all you football fans. And Sang.


DougMacKenzie - 11/24/2011 at 12:52 PM

Oh, I almost forgot. Is that smoked Dolphin I smell? GO COWBOYS!!!!!!


BIGV - 11/24/2011 at 01:05 PM

quote:
Oh, I almost forgot. Is that smoked Dolphin I smell?


I believe that is over hyped Cowboy you smell...

Back to earth this weekend. I think the fish will make this game a bit more than interesting..


DougMacKenzie - 11/24/2011 at 01:11 PM

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quote:
Oh, I almost forgot. Is that smoked Dolphin I smell?


I believe that is over hyped Cowboy you smell...

Back to earth this weekend. I think the fish will make this game a bit more than interesting..


Actually, you may be right. If the 'Pokes are going to do anything this year this is a must win game for them against a team that is coming on. We'll see. Should be three good games today.


Peachypetewi - 11/24/2011 at 02:07 PM

quote:
quote:
Rich the Bears had absolutely no chance to get Orton because KC and Dallas both put in claims after Orton cleared waivers. The team with the worst record gets first shot at him by NFL league rules. Your barking up the wrong tree.


You're right. I'm just frustrated. I thought it would have been a perfect fit.



Hanie is in his contract year so he essentially is playing for his NFL future. He should be very highly motivated to perform well as it could mean a big payday.

Not sure Orton is all that good of a fit he has never played in the Martz system where as McCown has.

If it gets to the point McCown is doing anything other than sending plays signals into Hanie the Bears are screwed anyway.


piacere - 11/24/2011 at 03:58 PM

quote:
Looking forward to a great day opf food, family, and football. Happy Thanksgiving to all you football fans. And Sang.


Thanksgiving's a joke.


Sang - 11/24/2011 at 05:52 PM

This is a football thread?


WharfRat - 11/25/2011 at 02:34 AM

Someone PLEASE beat the Pack.

Please.


DougMacKenzie - 11/26/2011 at 04:00 AM

Okay, Thanksgiving is over. Hope you all lose this weekend. Cowboys squeak out a win over the fish. Hey, it still counts.

COWBOYS!!!!!!!


Sang - 11/26/2011 at 04:20 AM

Bastards. If they were going to win they should have covered.................


DougMacKenzie - 11/26/2011 at 04:30 AM

quote:
Bastards. If they were going to win they should have covered.................

Crybaby.


Sang - 11/26/2011 at 05:44 AM

Wish they would have lost ........


piacere - 11/26/2011 at 02:51 PM

doesn't make any difference what happens.

you're all toast.

Patriots beat the Pack in the super bowl, 41-24.

I have spoken.


Sang - 11/26/2011 at 05:58 PM

quote:
doesn't make any difference what happens.

you're all toast.

Patriots beat the Pack in the super bowl, 41-24.

I have spoken.




Saving this so it can't be deleted in shame later.............


gotdrumz - 11/26/2011 at 07:44 PM

quote:
quote:
doesn't make any difference what happens.

you're all toast.

Patriots beat the Pack in the super bowl, 41-24.

I have spoken.


My .02
The only reason the Patriots make the playoffs is cause every other team in thier divivision is terrible.



Saving this so it can't be deleted in shame later.............


WharfRat - 11/27/2011 at 02:28 AM

quote:
doesn't make any difference what happens.

you're all toast.

Patriots beat the Pack in the super bowl, 41-24.

I have spoken.


Bro..

Really?


Sang - 11/28/2011 at 04:50 AM

The Steelers win by 4 points..........really?


DanB - 11/28/2011 at 01:46 PM

quote:
The Steelers win by 4 points..........really?


hey those AFC West teams can be difficult 13-9 or 25-20

just win baby


Lee - 11/28/2011 at 07:51 PM

quote:
quote:
Rich the Bears had absolutely no chance to get Orton because KC and Dallas both put in claims after Orton cleared waivers. The team with the worst record gets first shot at him by NFL league rules. Your barking up the wrong tree.


You're right. I'm just frustrated. I thought it would have been a perfect fit.




And wouldn't it be something if the Chiefs activated Orton for this week's Bears/Chiefs game? He has to be better than that Chiefs QB. Plus, he has to have at least a cursory knowledge of the Bears defense.

They need Cutler back. I felt bad for Hainie yesterday. Not sure why they didn't run the ball more. They probably would have won the game.


Sang - 11/28/2011 at 08:19 PM

Especially that stupid "trick" play at the end of the half that turned out to be at least a 6 point swing......


Lee - 11/28/2011 at 08:53 PM

quote:
Especially that stupid "trick" play at the end of the half that turned out to be at least a 6 point swing......



It was indeed at least a six-point swing, maybe 10. With their running game and defense that is what they should have focused on. I didn't see it as a trick play really. I thought they were just trying some misdirection but what do I know?


Sang - 11/28/2011 at 09:24 PM

Well, it certainly went in the wrong direction....... great play by Lance Louis to stop it though ... and then holding them to a FG.....


Bhawk - 11/28/2011 at 09:28 PM

At this point I don't even feel like the Chiefs are members of the NFL.

However, they are playing Da Bears this weekend, so we are having folks over and my Chicagoan wife is making Italian Beef for everyone...while she wears her Bears sweatshirt and talks $hit on everyone.


brofan - 11/29/2011 at 12:06 AM

quote:
I think Caleb Hanie will impress

Say goodbye to Norv


1. He didn't.

2. He should've been gone after that 8-8 season. Worst head coach in the NFL. And he will be hired again as a HC by another stupid owner.


brofan - 11/29/2011 at 12:11 AM

quote:
quote:
quote:
Rich the Bears had absolutely no chance to get Orton because KC and Dallas both put in claims after Orton cleared waivers. The team with the worst record gets first shot at him by NFL league rules. Your barking up the wrong tree.


You're right. I'm just frustrated. I thought it would have been a perfect fit.



Hanie is in his contract year so he essentially is playing for his NFL future. He should be very highly motivated to perform well as it could mean a big payday.

Not sure Orton is all that good of a fit he has never played in the Martz system where as McCown has.

If it gets to the point McCown is doing anything other than sending plays signals into Hanie the Bears are screwed anyway.


The only reason the Bears aren't screwed is because of the ease of their remaining schedule. Hanie was horrible yesterday, and combined with Martz's mystifying play - calling (what kind of moron calls a backside screen inside the 10 with less than a minute remaining in the half with a questionable QB making his first NFL start when your running backs are averaging over 5 ypc in the game?) they are lucky they only lost by 5. Even so, the Raiders were a team they could have - and SHOULD have - beaten.


brofan - 11/29/2011 at 12:12 AM

quote:
Someone PLEASE beat the Pack.

Please.


X 10,000


brofan - 11/29/2011 at 12:13 AM

quote:
Especially that stupid "trick" play at the end of the half that turned out to be at least a 6 point swing......


That one is on Martz. As the loss should be.


brofan - 11/29/2011 at 12:15 AM

quote:
At this point I don't even feel like the Chiefs are members of the NFL.

However, they are playing Da Bears this weekend, so we are having folks over and my Chicagoan wife is making Italian Beef for everyone...while she wears her Bears sweatshirt and talks $hit on everyone.


Just an FYI, Jerry - in Chicago it's EYE - talian BIFF....


goldtop - 11/29/2011 at 12:26 AM

Went to my first game in many years yesterday at the Oakland Coliseum....6 Fg's and an 80 yard punt by the Raiders special teams. Carson Palmer looked good and made some good throws although he was sacked 4 times. Celeb Hanie looked pretty good for being thrown into the big time as a rookie. He made a couple of rookie throws for INT's but the 80 yard pass play towards the end of the game was a great throw and catch. He also showed good mobility...

I prefer watching at home but it's nice to go once in a while. The Raider crowd is a little over the top there was a few plays I missed because I was wondering if I had to duck and cover or find a way out....My cousin has season tickets in the last row at the top of the stadium so we didn't have to worry about what was behind us and we could see what was in front of us. The height took me a few minutes to get use to....But a great view of the field from the corner of the end zone above the black hole...

[Edited on 11/29/2011 by goldtop]


fensranger - 11/29/2011 at 12:34 AM

Raiders are having quite a season and the way Bush is playing they dont even miss McFadden. That being said, Tebow has some unknown force working magic with him and as strange as it sounds, Denver just keeps winning game after game. If they beat the Pats in a few weeks, I will have to rethink some of my principles about life.


goldtop - 11/29/2011 at 01:33 AM

quote:
Raiders are having quite a season and the way Bush is playing they dont even miss McFadden. That being said, Tebow has some unknown force working magic with him and as strange as it sounds, Denver just keeps winning game after game. If they beat the Pats in a few weeks, I will have to rethink some of my principles about life.


Bush is punishing and fast but McFaddon is explosive and give's you the big run. If they had both plus the 3 receivers Ford, Moore and Bey I don't think we'd see 6 FG's. It was frustrating see them not punch it in on 6 different drives.

My team is the 49ers but I'm a Bay Area fan so I root for the Raiders too...except when they play the 49ers....But I'd never be at that game....no way. Either way it's the first time in about 10 years we've been competitive on either side of the bay so I'm just going with it and hoping its grows for both teams

I'm starting to become a Tebow fan....He's refreshing in that he truly get's that it's just a game and that he's blessed to be there.....I think if they made him a HB he'd be great on the first 2 downs for a backfield. The guy is big and fast. Find a traditional QB and just hand the guy the ball for off tackle and sweeps plays, Draws, screens and the occasion HB option throw


piacere - 11/29/2011 at 03:36 PM

joe kapp throws a pretty good right cross...


Peachypetewi - 11/29/2011 at 07:24 PM

quote:
quote:
Someone PLEASE beat the Pack.

Please.


X 10,000


As a life long Bears fan and the ultimate Packer hater I never thought I'd find myself saying this. It seems Rodgers is about as good of a guy as you will ever find in professional sports. He seems to be a pro's pro. He never says anything condescending or insulting, always gives proper respect, stays out of trouble, supports local charities etc. The rest of the team are all pretty low keyed and grounded with the exception of Charles Woodson maybe who occasionally blurts out something. It's really hard to hate this team. I've been looking all year for reasons to hate them and haven't found any. I'm ambivalent to them going undefeated, won't care if they do. All you can do is tip your hat and acknowledge they have drafted well the last 5 years and done things the right way.

[Edited on 11/29/2011 by Peachypetewi]


WharfRat - 11/30/2011 at 01:57 PM

Yup, I knew all that.

Just dont want Pitt to see them again in Feburary

Though the Saints have been looking pretty damn good as well...


Sang - 11/30/2011 at 04:50 PM

Pitt will be playing golf in February...............


Lee - 11/30/2011 at 05:33 PM

quote:
Pitt will be playing golf in February...............



Will not.



DougMacKenzie - 11/30/2011 at 07:51 PM

Who let that basketball player into the NFL thread? Loser.


WharfRat - 12/1/2011 at 04:25 AM

quote:
Pitt will be playing golf in February...............


Yea..

The second weekend


BIGV - 12/1/2011 at 11:38 AM

Monday nite football in Jacksonville.....yawn

Brady is one of 3 chasing Mr.Marino, how bad will they lay it on the Colts?

Take the O in the Lions/Saints game

The NFL is a funny place, watch G.B trip and fall in N.Y.

It has taken a few weeks longer than expected, but the Titans are rolling

I still won't drink the Tebow Kool-aid

This weekend the Texans will prove just how important the QB is

I'm taking the Rams and the points


WharfRat - 12/1/2011 at 02:20 PM

My boys have date #2 with the Bungles.

If they play like they did againt the Chiefs, they will lose.

Badly.

Hopefully that was just post bye week rust.


DanB - 12/2/2011 at 03:40 AM

Andy Reid may be looking for a job


piacere - 12/2/2011 at 02:16 PM

...and Norv Turner.


Lee - 12/2/2011 at 02:38 PM

My opinion, Turner is toast. I wouldn't give up on Reid.


fensranger - 12/2/2011 at 10:10 PM

Reid may be back but i think he probably would like a new start somewhere. Philly has got to be just a miserable place and team to coach. What a bunch of prima donnas. It just shows that in the end football is a complete team sport. Starting with Vick, you can go down the line with all the egos on that team. What a waste of talent. It has been my highlight of the season watching them destruct and i really like Reed.

Reed will leave because he knows that team will NEVER WIN as its constructed and he is wasting his time.

As for Turner, he is a terrible head coach and his team has quit. Rivers is having a Romo season for some reason. He is in a complete funk.


WharfRat - 12/3/2011 at 01:15 AM

I have never been a fan of Rivers, and this season shows the reason why.

Worst thing the Bolts ever did ( besides hiring Turner) was trading Brees..

What the hell were they thinking!


Eaglesgreen - 12/3/2011 at 09:14 PM

Reid wants to leave because of the way the Eagles are constructed? Who do you think constructed them?
He is the architect of this team and as he says in every news conference after each loss - "I need to do a better job" - after 13 years of holding that job. His time management is horrible, his teams can't adjust to anything during a game, his drafts over the last number of years have been awful, and he has an aversion to picking linebackers with any talent. Much of the credit for the teams' long term success should go to Joe Banner who is one of the best at managing the cap and contracts. Reid's strength's: he is good at off-day coaching, is a coach the players want to play for, and also seems to know when to move on with older players. I don't mind giving Reid one more year to see if he can turn it around but I sure do miss the days when an Eagles defense was to be feared and we had some dedication to a running game. This team now is all finesse and it won't win anytime soon without coach or player changes.


piacere - 12/4/2011 at 04:55 PM

idle banter.

The Eagles? Please...

Let's move on to a more worthy topic, one that you all will find to be of much more substance and might...

PATRIOTS !!!!!!!


WharfRat - 12/5/2011 at 02:10 AM

The playoff push has commenced!

You have all been warned.

DOOM AWAITS.

HERE WE GO STEELERS, HERE WE GO


brofan - 12/5/2011 at 03:31 AM

quote:
...and Norv Turner.


As I've been predicting here for over a month - and elsewhere for years....


brofan - 12/5/2011 at 03:38 AM

quote:
My opinion, Turner is toast. I wouldn't give up on Reid.


I would. He has NO CONTROL over his players whatsoever. There's no discipline on the team, no accountability, no direction, just a bunch of memememe jerks, exemplified by DeSean Jackson, who's been an ass ever since his rookie year when he dropped the ball on his FIRST TOUCHDOWN showboating across the end zone. A real coach (like Ditka) would have shipped his ass outta town before the game was over. Instead he's still there, infecting the team with his selfishness. Did you see him on the sideline Thursday night? Wouldn't interact with this teammates AT ALL. It's all about him. And that's on Andy Reid.



brofan - 12/5/2011 at 03:44 AM

quote:
quote:
quote:
Someone PLEASE beat the Pack.

Please.


X 10,000


As a life long Bears fan and the ultimate Packer hater I never thought I'd find myself saying this. It seems Rodgers is about as good of a guy as you will ever find in professional sports. He seems to be a pro's pro. He never says anything condescending or insulting, always gives proper respect, stays out of trouble, supports local charities etc. The rest of the team are all pretty low keyed and grounded with the exception of Charles Woodson maybe who occasionally blurts out something. It's really hard to hate this team. I've been looking all year for reasons to hate them and haven't found any. I'm ambivalent to them going undefeated, won't care if they do. All you can do is tip your hat and acknowledge they have drafted well the last 5 years and done things the right way.

[Edited on 11/29/2011 by Peachypetewi]


I have no problem with the Packers whatsoever and I completely agree about Rodgers. Not only is he possibly the most accurate QB I've ever seen, but he is a total class act as well. Doesn't seem to have an arrogant bone in his body.

I do, however, HATE Packer fans. They are the most obnoxious, bandwagon-jumping, arrogant sports fans on Earth. And if the Pack goes 19-0, they will prove me right beyond a shadow of a doubt.


spacemonkey - 12/5/2011 at 04:27 AM

I love Aaron Rodgers, he is really enjoying what he does and does so very well. You can see why the Packers wanted Farve to retire.

He was having fun and laughing with Justin Tuck during a replay timeout tonight.
in the middle of a very competitive game.

He really enjoys and respects his teammates, his opponents and the game.

And he is having fun doing it.

Hard not to like.


IPowrie - 12/5/2011 at 04:42 AM

quote:
I love Aaron Rodgers, he is really enjoying what he does and does so very well. You can see why the Packers wanted Farve to retire.

He was having fun and laughing with Justin Tuck during a replay timeout tonight.
in the middle of a very competitive game.

He really enjoys and respects his teammates, his opponents and the game.

And he is having fun doing it.

Hard not to like.




There is still the little problem he plays for the Packers, I feel the same way about Bears and Vikings players to


IPowrie - 12/5/2011 at 04:44 AM

At least the Lions are consistent. Still believe the Lions get treated different by refs than the "elite" teams why else would so many offensive pass interference be called on them

[Edited on 12/5/2011 by IPowrie]


spacemonkey - 12/5/2011 at 05:02 AM

Lions do have some bigger more physical receivers.

I think they call too much ticky tack stuff. The defensive holding call that negated a big sack in the Packers/Giants game today against the Giants linebacker was a very ticky tack BS call. Guys are always running into each other initiated by both sides, if no one gains an advantage what is the point of the flag?? It's hard enough to play pass defense with today's rules without calling all the BS stuff.


brofan - 12/5/2011 at 05:03 AM

quote:
At least the Lions are consistent. Still believe the Lions get treated different by refs than the "elite" teams why else would so many offensive pass interference be called so much


Can't blame Stafford's INTs on the refs....and there's the fact Suh plays for the Lions, so they are going to be watched more closely by the refs, even when he isn't in the lineup. That's just the way it is. Last game against the Bears he tore Cutler's helmet off, almost took his head off with it, and there was no flag. So it evens out.

The perception around the league is that since Schwartz refuses to control or discipline Suh, he condones his actions. If the Coach isn't going to do anything to protect opponents, then the refs have to do it. And once that perception is created, it's REAL hard to get rid of it.


IPowrie - 12/5/2011 at 05:20 AM

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quote:
At least the Lions are consistent. Still believe the Lions get treated different by refs than the "elite" teams why else would so many offensive pass interference be called so much


Can't blame Stafford's INTs on the refs....and there's the fact Suh plays for the Lions, so they are going to be watched more closely by the refs, even when he isn't in the lineup. That's just the way it is. Last game against the Bears he tore Cutler's helmet off, almost took his head off with it, and there was no flag. So it evens out.

The perception around the league is that since Schwartz refuses to control or discipline Suh, he condones his actions. If the Coach isn't going to do anything to protect opponents, then the refs have to do it. And once that perception is created, it's REAL hard to get rid of it.


Stafford threw one int tonight in desperation time, I thought he played good tonight. Nate Burelson had 3 offensive interference calls that I thought were nit picky as what he did is common in the NFL and rarely gets called. Things like that are why I feel the way I do and this is nothing new Ive felt this way for many years. It comes with losing and IMO the teams that are perennial losers are the teams that get penalized the most and are watched more closely by the refs while the refs are more likely to ignore similar things with the teams that win. Suh hasnt helped himself though he's had his fair share of calls that were called that shouldnt have been called (when he tackled Marion Barber by the hair and was called for a horse collar)


DougMacKenzie - 12/5/2011 at 11:20 AM

What are you girls whining about? We iced our own frickin' kicker! I smell another December collapse coming, and this one ain't on Romo. What a mess.


Lee - 12/5/2011 at 11:49 AM

quote:
What are you girls whining about? We iced our own frickin' kicker! I smell another December collapse coming, and this one ain't on Romo. What a mess.


That was just terrible.


Peachypetewi - 12/5/2011 at 12:15 PM

I didn't think the Bears had it in them to lose to the Chefs. Hanie has screwed the pooch and squandered his opportunity for financial security the rest of his life, looks like he'll be selling cars or insurance or tending bar somewhere next season. I don't know the answer to this but just how many other NFL teams have an undrafted free agent as their back up QB?

[Edited on 12/5/2011 by Peachypetewi]


Lee - 12/5/2011 at 12:26 PM

This season I have wondered why teams don't have a backup QB worth his salt. A handful of teams have seen their starting QB go down yet they have no worthy backup and they need to go out and grab some unemployed guy.

Note to NFL brass: your QB can get injured.


Lee - 12/5/2011 at 12:53 PM

Oh and sorry to Bears fans, but I think they are done for the season. Not sure the Lions will make it either though. Looks like the wildcard might not come out of the Norris Division.


jim - 12/5/2011 at 02:20 PM

quote:
I have no problem with the Packers whatsoever and I completely agree about Rodgers. Not only is he possibly the most accurate QB I've ever seen, but he is a total class act as well.


While I also like Rodgers, I am also a Giants fan, so that was terrible for me yesterday. However, he is freakin awesome, as are his receivers. He is terribly accurate, but I also have to give a ton of credit to the guys catching the ball. They actually had a bunch of drops yesterday, but for the most part, those guys are catching balls behind them, tip toeing the sidelines, over their heads, etc. If its anywhere in the vicinity, they are catching it.


Sang - 12/5/2011 at 02:23 PM

quote:
Oh and sorry to Bears fans, but I think they are done for the season. Not sure the Lions will make it either though. Looks like the wildcard might not come out of the Norris Division.



The Norris Division? Wott sport are we talking aboot here?


Peachypetewi - 12/5/2011 at 03:37 PM

quote:

I do, however, HATE Packer fans. They are the most obnoxious, bandwagon-jumping, arrogant sports fans on Earth. And if the Pack goes 19-0, they will prove me right beyond a shadow of a doubt.


How exactly? will they come to North Carolina and taunt you?


Sang - 12/5/2011 at 03:47 PM

People in cheese heads show up in the strangest places.............


piacere - 12/5/2011 at 03:52 PM

quote:
What are you girls whining about? We iced our own frickin' kicker! I smell another December collapse coming, and this one ain't on Romo. What a mess.


my friends and I were talking about that one for a while last night. I didn't hear the coach's explanation afterward. Did he say why he called time out? None of us had ever recalled seeing something like that. That was brutal.

Bears are toast. Hanie???

pretty fair to say it'll be either Packers or New Orleans, the way it looks right now.

in the AFC, much as I love the Patriots and hate to say it, the Steelers look like the team to beat.


Bhawk - 12/5/2011 at 05:13 PM

I only have two post Bears-Chiefs game thoughts...one, I have never in my life seen a footbal game decided by the end of the first half Hail Mary, and, as bad as the Chiefs offense is, our defense has played pretty spectacular against the Steelers and Bears the last two weeks.

The Chiefs are one of those bad teams that somehow make you play down to their level. So, we got that going for us.


Sang - 12/5/2011 at 09:21 PM

Losing Forte didn't help the Bears offense any ..... Hanie overthrowing a sure touchdown, and having the other called back for illegal formation didn't help any either. Getting to the 6 and then going backward with a couple bad sacks was awesome too. I like how the Bear offensive line has gone back to it's early season form of giving up lots of big sacks....... after that big tackle last week, Lance Louis should be benched for all the sacks he gave up this week.....


Lee - 12/5/2011 at 10:12 PM

I think the Falcons and either the Cowboys or Giants will be the wildcards. I don't see the Lions or Bears making it but I would give the edge to the Lions to make it over the Bears. Both teams are too beat up though.


Lee - 12/6/2011 at 12:41 PM

Time for the Chargers to make their annual late-season push.


piacere - 12/6/2011 at 08:19 PM

quote:
Time for the Chargers to make their annual late-season push.


it can be done at two games out with 4 to go.

this week, Oak. at GB, Chicago at Denver, KC at Jets, Buffalo at SD. Could pick up a game on all three teams. (Go Bears)

after that, it gets touchy. Detroit at Oakland, Pats at Denver, GB at KC....Balt. at SD . Tough game, but if they win, they could be right in it...and play Oakland last game of the season. I just can't see Denver winning that division.


piacere - 12/6/2011 at 08:28 PM

yeah, I know, I left out week 16. Oak at KC, SD at Detroit, KC/Buffalo, I forget where.

Still, SD has a shot...with help.

Some of the games they've lost this year, including the one against the Patriots, I don't know, the espn crew says it's the players. Was nice to hear Ditka say, "players win games...coaches lose them". I almost want SD to tank it the rest of the year just to be certain Norvicain is gone. Gruden and Jaws saying what a great coach he is. Gimme a break.


fensranger - 12/6/2011 at 09:35 PM

Turner should be gone no doubt but he did not fumble the ball against KC. I could not believe that play.


WharfRat - 12/7/2011 at 01:21 AM

quote:
in the AFC, much as I love the Patriots and hate to say it, the Steelers look like the team to beat.




Who are you, and why did you steal Mark's password?


But of course I agree..


spacemonkey - 12/7/2011 at 01:47 AM

two skinks (Trent Williams and Fred Davis) failed drug tests for weed and got suspended for 4 games.


Williams thinks he should get a break because the lockout rules should be more lenient.



LEGALIZE IT!



piacere - 12/8/2011 at 05:08 PM

page dos?

keep runnin', you camel humpin' bedouins...but you can't hide.

PATRIOTS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


piacere - 12/8/2011 at 05:17 PM

saw Joe Bonnamassa on PBS last night, Live from the Royal Albert Hall.

the dude brings it


spacemonkey - 12/8/2011 at 05:17 PM

quote:
page dos?

keep runnin', you camel humpin' bedouins...but you can't hide.

PATRIOTS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


delusional


WharfRat - 12/8/2011 at 09:39 PM

quote:
quote:
page dos?

keep runnin', you camel humpin' bedouins...but you can't hide.

PATRIOTS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


delusional


cracksmoker


spacemonkey - 12/9/2011 at 03:10 AM

uh oh

dog pile on the rapist

he hurt his widdle ankle


WharfRat - 12/9/2011 at 11:01 AM

.. and he came back out and kicked some Brownie @ss

Hard ****ing core.


DougMacKenzie - 12/9/2011 at 12:11 PM

quote:
quote:
What are you girls whining about? We iced our own frickin' kicker! I smell another December collapse coming, and this one ain't on Romo. What a mess.


That was just terrible.

Did anyone hear Garrett's explanation for the end of the game with the Card's? Good lord we're in trouble. And he's the smart one.


piacere - 12/9/2011 at 01:42 PM

quote:
quote:
quote:
What are you girls whining about? We iced our own frickin' kicker! I smell another December collapse coming, and this one ain't on Romo. What a mess.


That was just terrible.

Did anyone hear Garrett's explanation for the end of the game with the Card's? Good lord we're in trouble. And he's the smart one.


I didn't. What'd he say? This ought to be good...

Talk of trading Peyton Manning is absurd.

Cowboys/Giants should be one heck of a game.


IPowrie - 12/11/2011 at 05:08 PM

Another Sunday getting ready to watch the Lions win


emr - 12/11/2011 at 07:08 PM

Gronkowski got his record setting 14th TD reception for a tight end. This beast is a true throwback tight end; Al Davis would rise from the grave to coach him. Plays like Mark Bavaro.


spacemonkey - 12/11/2011 at 07:41 PM

awful call in the Patriots Skinks game. Brady goes into a slide late and Fletcher protecting the first down
marker hits Brady and they call him for helmet contact on a QB. First off Brady left the pocket and moved down field and is now a runner doesn't deserve the pocket protection rules. Secondly Fletcher never hits him in the head but in the chest with his forearm. A clean hit.

How are defenders supposed to defend the first down marker when they get flagged for a clean hit???.

Might as well play Touch or Flag football and just give up tackling.


spacemonkey - 12/11/2011 at 07:43 PM

quote:
Gronkowski got his record setting 14th TD reception for a tight end. This beast is a true throwback tight end; Al Davis would rise from the grave to coach him. Plays like Mark Bavaro.


Good comparison!


Sang - 12/11/2011 at 07:54 PM

If you need your team to win make sure I pick against them in the pool......


emr - 12/11/2011 at 08:41 PM

quote:
If you need your team to win make sure I pick against them in the pool......


I think two years ago playoff time Big V was 1/8 the first week. You are only the second person who's picks I check


spacemonkey - 12/11/2011 at 09:19 PM

Referee missed a face mask on the QB on the last play of the vikings game.

When are the owners going to get professional referees like other major sports and can these part time bozos??


IPowrie - 12/11/2011 at 09:35 PM

quote:
Referee missed a face mask on the QB on the last play of the vikings game.

When are the owners going to get professional referees like other major sports and can these part time bozos??


And I couldnt be happier about it but in all honesty the Lions should of blown them out when they had the chance but of course being the Lions when a back up comes in they have to play bad


BIGV - 12/12/2011 at 11:58 AM

quote:
I think two years ago playoff time Big V was 1/8 the first week.


Yep. I remember it well.


DanB - 12/12/2011 at 02:17 PM

Hey Dug is this you covering your face?


Bhawk - 12/12/2011 at 03:22 PM

Chiefs get 4 yards in the first half.

4.

Worst in franchise history, 10th worst in NFL history.

And to think people make fun of me for liking soccer. Yeah. As if I've got so many other sports options.


piacere - 12/12/2011 at 04:18 PM

anybody out there need to pad your offensive numbers, just give the Patriots "defense" a call...

we might go 13 and 3, 12 and 4.

then be one and done...


Bhawk - 12/12/2011 at 04:32 PM

Todd Haley has been fired. Well, that's something.


piacere - 12/12/2011 at 04:39 PM

quote:
Todd Haley has been fired. Well, that's something.


can he play cornerback?


spacemonkey - 12/12/2011 at 04:57 PM

quote:
Hey Dug is this you covering your face?




wott is it with cowboys and field goals. Last week they ice their own kicker, This week The giants ice the kicker and then get a block. Maybe they should just keep the offense on for 4 th downs.

maybe not

whoops


spacemonkey - 12/12/2011 at 05:01 PM

Pierre Paul is a beast. If only he could stop arm tackling and learn to form tackle running backs. He could be great.

But rushing Quarterbacks and blocking filed goals is not a problem






emr - 12/12/2011 at 05:55 PM

quote:
quote:
Hey Dug is this you covering your face?




wott is it with cowboys and field goals. Last week they ice their own kicker, This week The giants ice the kicker and then get a block. Maybe they should just keep the offense on for 4 th downs.

maybe not

whoops



Is it just me or is Jones looking like Jerry Sandusky?


DougMacKenzie - 12/12/2011 at 06:42 PM

That's not me. If I were that close to Jerry Jones my hands would be around his throat, not covering my face. I think the 'Pokes go 8-8 with a soft 6-10 schedule. Nothing will change until Jerry Jones gets out of the way.


DanB - 12/13/2011 at 12:58 AM

STEELERS

deal with it you buncha blow hards


WharfRat - 12/13/2011 at 02:28 AM

Niners?

Pluuuease


piacere - 12/13/2011 at 02:22 PM

we stink.


WharfRat - 12/13/2011 at 05:24 PM

Well yea

Get ready to get Tebow-ed


spacemonkey - 12/13/2011 at 05:39 PM

quote:
That's not me. If I were that close to Jerry Jones my hands would be around his throat, not covering my face. I think the 'Pokes go 8-8 with a soft 6-10 schedule. Nothing will change until Jerry Jones gets out of the way.


Too bad for you, don't think that Egomaniac is going anywhere


fensranger - 12/13/2011 at 06:22 PM

well we are 13 games in and only green bay looks really strong. In NFC the Saints are hot and cold, Giants defense stinks, Dallas defense stinks, and 49ers are looking very soft. Bears are shot without Cutler.

In AFC, it is a real jumble. I think Pats as usual are the team to beat. Brady is the difference. You know they will be in the game and not make mistakes. Steelers and Ravens are not exactly beating anyone good these days. Texans would be the team if they had any semblance of a QB and Andrea Johnson. Their D is very good as is the O line and RBs.

If Jets or Chargers get into the playoffs they would both be dangerous outs. Jets have a tough schedule to run at this point and SD needs a bunch of help.

And then there is Mr. Tebow ?????


Lee - 12/13/2011 at 07:42 PM

quote:


And then there is Mr. Tebow ?????



Why play that card? The guy is only on every TV station.


spacemonkey - 12/13/2011 at 08:13 PM

quote:
quote:


And then there is Mr. Tebow ?????



Why play that card? The guy is only on every TV station.


The dude had to have been a marketing major


BIGV - 12/13/2011 at 08:16 PM

quote:
That's not me. If I were that close to Jerry Jones my hands would be around his throat, not covering my face. I think the 'Pokes go 8-8 with a soft 6-10 schedule. Nothing will change until Jerry Jones gets out of the way.


Hypothetical....., you are in the 4th Q of a very close game, you are losing (and yes, Jason Garret is still the coach) would you rather have Romo or Tebow as your QB?


emr - 12/13/2011 at 08:47 PM

quote:
quote:
That's not me. If I were that close to Jerry Jones my hands would be around his throat, not covering my face. I think the 'Pokes go 8-8 with a soft 6-10 schedule. Nothing will change until Jerry Jones gets out of the way.


Hypothetical....., you are in the 4th Q of a very close game, you are losing (and yes, Jason Garret is still the coach) would you rather have Romo or Tebow as your QB?


First I'd want to know who you bet on.


fensranger - 12/14/2011 at 01:07 PM

in Romos defense, he did not miss the field goal. He played a very good game , threw one lousy pass to Austin but he drove them down the field for the FG. That being said, Tebow


WharfRat - 12/14/2011 at 01:33 PM

quote:
quote:
That's not me. If I were that close to Jerry Jones my hands would be around his throat, not covering my face. I think the 'Pokes go 8-8 with a soft 6-10 schedule. Nothing will change until Jerry Jones gets out of the way.


Hypothetical....., you are in the 4th Q of a very close game, you are losing (and yes, Jason Garret is still the coach) would you rather have Romo or Tebow as your QB?


ANYONE other then Romo.

Anyone.


Bhawk - 12/14/2011 at 02:43 PM

quote:
quote:
quote:
That's not me. If I were that close to Jerry Jones my hands would be around his throat, not covering my face. I think the 'Pokes go 8-8 with a soft 6-10 schedule. Nothing will change until Jerry Jones gets out of the way.


Hypothetical....., you are in the 4th Q of a very close game, you are losing (and yes, Jason Garret is still the coach) would you rather have Romo or Tebow as your QB?


ANYONE other then Romo.

Anyone.


I take it you've never seen Tyler Palko play?


BIGV - 12/14/2011 at 10:23 PM

quote:
quote:
quote:
That's not me. If I were that close to Jerry Jones my hands would be around his throat, not covering my face. I think the 'Pokes go 8-8 with a soft 6-10 schedule. Nothing will change until Jerry Jones gets out of the way.


Hypothetical....., you are in the 4th Q of a very close game, you are losing (and yes, Jason Garret is still the coach) would you rather have Romo or Tebow as your QB?


First I'd want to know who you bet on.


Rest assured I will never wager on Tony Romo in a big game.


emr - 12/14/2011 at 11:04 PM

quote:
quote:
quote:
quote:
That's not me. If I were that close to Jerry Jones my hands would be around his throat, not covering my face. I think the 'Pokes go 8-8 with a soft 6-10 schedule. Nothing will change until Jerry Jones gets out of the way.


Hypothetical....., you are in the 4th Q of a very close game, you are losing (and yes, Jason Garret is still the coach) would you rather have Romo or Tebow as your QB?


First I'd want to know who you bet on.


I remember being about 12 and watching my dad play softball. One guy on his team hit screamer after screamer. My dad's team was down by 6 runs or so; rallied in the bottom of the ninth. They were down 2; bases were loaded and the guy came up. My dad turned to me and said "the games over. this guy is the biggest dog when the heat is on"

Rest assured I will never wager on Tony Romo in a big game.


WharfRat - 12/15/2011 at 04:41 AM

quote:
quote:
quote:
quote:
That's not me. If I were that close to Jerry Jones my hands would be around his throat, not covering my face. I think the 'Pokes go 8-8 with a soft 6-10 schedule. Nothing will change until Jerry Jones gets out of the way.


Hypothetical....., you are in the 4th Q of a very close game, you are losing (and yes, Jason Garret is still the coach) would you rather have Romo or Tebow as your QB?


ANYONE other then Romo.

Anyone.


I take it you've never seen Tyler Palko play?


Who is THAT?


DougMacKenzie - 12/15/2011 at 12:20 PM

quote:
quote:
That's not me. If I were that close to Jerry Jones my hands would be around his throat, not covering my face. I think the 'Pokes go 8-8 with a soft 6-10 schedule. Nothing will change until Jerry Jones gets out of the way.


Hypothetical....., you are in the 4th Q of a very close game, you are losing (and yes, Jason Garret is still the coach) would you rather have Romo or Tebow as your QB?


Romo is the better QB, but it wouldn't matter. The Dallas Cowboys have no soul as a football team, and haven't since Jimmy Johnson left. They won't have until Jones gets out of the way. They tried to recover under Parcells, but you knew it wouldn't last. This team is the last dreggs of what Parcells rebuilt, and we're headed right back into 5-11 hell. It is an attitude of self importance without merit that permeates the whole organization starting with Jones. They just locked up Sensagaugh for 5 years! Newman has a long term contract and wouldn't try to tackle my grandmother. Jenkins was signed to a long term deal and he could get hurt walking around the locker room. Has anyone seen the 'Pokes secondary pretend to play football? Romo is the QB for the foreseabale futre, got 64 mil after one decent season where he chocked in a playoff game. Heartless, souless, gutless football ream. Lots of good and talented players, but a lousy team.


WharfRat - 12/15/2011 at 02:12 PM

Tell us how you really feel Dug


DanB - 12/15/2011 at 02:15 PM

quote:
It is an attitude of self importance without merit that permeates the whole organization starting with Jones


The media also plays into this big time.


Sang - 12/15/2011 at 02:25 PM

You should feel lucky - Suh would try to tackle your grandmother.....and stomp her into the ground.............


fensranger - 12/15/2011 at 05:52 PM

Cowboys need a top notch coach. The offensive talent in skill positions might be the best in the league. Romo is talented, no question. Who has better receivers than Austin, Witten, Bryant and Laurent Richardson-he is a keeper. Demarcus Murray can run, so can Felix Jones.

Put in a coach like Cowher or Gruden that most people respect and get owner out of the way and this team would be a top contender.


DanB - 12/15/2011 at 06:33 PM

quote:
Cowboys need a top notch coach. The offensive talent in skill positions might be the best in the league. Romo is talented, no question. Who has better receivers than Austin, Witten, Bryant and Laurent Richardson-he is a keeper. Demarcus Murray can run, so can Felix Jones.

Put in a coach like Cowher or Gruden that most people respect and get owner out of the way and this team would be a top contender.


A top notch coach will not work for the current HEAD coach Jerry Jones


fensranger - 12/15/2011 at 06:40 PM

All i can say is i wish Dez Bryant was on my team. He is another Randy Moss and hopefully without the baggage. What an athlete!!!! He will be better than Calvin Johnson or Andrea Johnson or Fitzgerald IMO


cubchubby - 12/15/2011 at 07:45 PM

You best hope Dez wasn't involved in drug dealing with Sam Hurd of the Bears. Sam was arrested on federal drug charges yesterday and it appears other NFL players were involved. My guess would be that it is more likely that it's Bears and Cowboys players but this should get interesting. Sam's NFL days are over as he's looking at a long prison stretch.
Here's the story ... http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2011/12/15/source-hurd-provided-drugs-to-other- nfl-players/?utm_medium=email&utm_source=email_sports&utm_campaign= 217570

You can read the criminal complaint here ...
http://cbschicago.files.wordpress.com/2011/12/sam-hurd-complaint.pdf

He's a big time drug dealer


fensranger - 12/15/2011 at 07:52 PM

LOL, I am only talking about Dez's talent. I am a Jets fan so really do not care whether he is suspended or not. Dez had plenty of issues in college obviously.


BIGV - 12/15/2011 at 08:05 PM

quote:
The offensive talent in skill positions might be the best in the league. Romo is talented, no question. Who has better receivers than Austin, Witten, Bryant and Laurent Richardson-he is a keeper. Demarcus Murray can run, so can Felix Jones.


Unfortunately for the Cowboys and their fans "Talent" is scattered pretty liberally throughout the league. What you do with that talent, or how you make the most of it, is up to the individual player. How much of yourself do you leave on that field every Sunday? Romo is continuously on the wrong side of "Lady Luck"....or, when ever the situation calls for him to come up with the play...well, we are all waiting. Austin can't stay healthy and when he does his numbers mirror those of Marques Colston...yet another "Talented" but far from great, player. Felix Jones?...really? Bryant is a comer, no doubt. Seems to have the goods, we'll see. Witten, by far the most complete receiver in that corps. Determination, hands, longevity and toughness. The real deal. But, I believe an earlier poster nailed it. They are no doubt "Media Darlings"...thus catapulting an extremely average player into the national limelight, only because he plays for The Dallas Cowboys.


fensranger - 12/15/2011 at 08:20 PM

i dont know you left out murray and laurent richardson. i think there is a crapload of talent here. I am not sure just media hyped. They may play that way because of the media but they have a boatload of TD makers on paper. Alot more than teams like New England, Green Bay or New Orleans -except for the QB!!!!! I think at some point this team will put it together and have a run.


BIGV - 12/15/2011 at 08:27 PM

quote:
i dont know you left out murray and laurent richardson. i think there is a crapload of talent here. I am not sure just media hyped. They may play that way because of the media but they have a boatload of TD makers on paper. Alot more than teams like New England, Green Bay or New Orleans -except for the QB!!!!! I think at some point this team will put it together and have a run.


Yeah, Murray?...what do you say? tough break kid. Seriously, nice start. But "Success" in this league has a lot to do with longevity. The start DeMarco had has happened before and will no doubt happen again. How will he rebound? Richardson got to play because Miles was injured (again) and probably out performed him after being released by two teams. What does that say for Austin?

quote:
but they have a boatload of TD makers on paper.


"on paper"...too funny, don't most teams?


Sang - 12/15/2011 at 08:45 PM

Right now "on paper" is the only way the Bears can get a TD........


piacere - 12/16/2011 at 01:56 PM

I expect a slowed-down offense this week. Huddle up, methodical, matriculate the ball down the field. If we can run it, that'll help in the 4th qtr.

Keep the defense from getting gassed in the thin air chasing Tebow around.

just my guess...


Lee - 12/17/2011 at 10:50 AM

For once I am rooting for the Pats. Maybe then we can not hear about that damn Broncos QB for a week.


Lee - 12/17/2011 at 11:00 AM

Playoff time in my fantasy league and I am in the semi finals somehow. Most of my players are hurt. Big Ben is my QB and I can't take a chance that he'll play.

Gotta roll the dice with my backup, Carson Palmer.


WharfRat - 12/17/2011 at 11:36 AM

If Ben can walk...he will play. Steelers HAVE to win this game.

And Carson seems to be suddenly colorblind


Lee - 12/17/2011 at 11:38 AM

quote:
If Ben can walk...he will play. Steelers HAVE to win this game.

And Carson seems to be suddenly colorblind



I'm pretty much screwed. Picked Andre Johnson first, been hurt all year, Kenny Britt is on IR, Jeremy Maclin has been hurt all year.

And the guy I'm playing has Tom Brady. Ugh....


DougMacKenzie - 12/17/2011 at 02:42 PM

I've got a bad feelin' 'bout them Cowboys. My back up tam, the Bolts, look dead in the water. I may have to move into the Patriot camp. Ugghhh.


DanB - 12/17/2011 at 03:34 PM

quote:
I've got a bad feelin' 'bout them Cowboys. My back up tam, the Bolts, look dead in the water. I may have to move into the Patriot camp. Ugghhh.


step into the light


Sang - 12/17/2011 at 03:34 PM

Is that like a FEMA camp? Maybe piacere's girlfriend Gina will be there.......


piacere - 12/17/2011 at 04:13 PM

quote:
I've got a bad feelin' 'bout them Cowboys. My back up tam, the Bolts, look dead in the water. I may have to move into the Patriot camp. Ugghhh.


"ugghhh"?

surely you jest, O Camel Jockey.

listen up...redemption, glory and salvation rest in the rolling hills of New England, you desert roaming bedouins. You dust-laden snake-charming wannabes should come to your senses...

Now, if we can run the ball, keep our defense off the field, we should be okay...

eff Sang


BIGV - 12/18/2011 at 12:05 AM

I'm hoping The Pats stay out of the prevent Defense if they're leading in the 4th Q

Watch Seattle dominate the Bears

Some pretty big upsets this week. I'll go with: the Panthers and the Eagles

Let's go low scoring in the Ravens/Chargers game. U/33

The Giants will (should) roll

The Steelers will send S.F. out on the road for their 1st playoff game.

The Colts will be ahhhhhh so close.


michaelsio - 12/18/2011 at 02:32 AM

quote:
quote:
I've got a bad feelin' 'bout them Cowboys. My back up tam, the Bolts, look dead in the water. I may have to move into the Patriot camp. Ugghhh.


"ugghhh"?

surely you jest, O Camel Jockey.

listen up...redemption, glory and salvation rest in the rolling hills of New England, you desert roaming bedouins. You dust-laden snake-charming wannabes should come to your senses...

Now, if we can run the ball, keep our defense off the field, we should be okay...

eff Sang


At least until the first game of the playoffs.


Lee - 12/18/2011 at 01:38 PM

Do I take the Lions or Raiders this week? Hmm...


piacere - 12/18/2011 at 04:52 PM

quote:
quote:
quote:
I've got a bad feelin' 'bout them Cowboys. My back up tam, the Bolts, look dead in the water. I may have to move into the Patriot camp. Ugghhh.


"ugghhh"?

surely you jest, O Camel Jockey.

listen up...redemption, glory and salvation rest in the rolling hills of New England, you desert roaming bedouins. You dust-laden snake-charming wannabes should come to your senses...

Now, if we can run the ball, keep our defense off the field, we should be okay...

eff Sang


At least until the first game of the playoffs.


no kiddin'. we've GOT to get a win this year. Hope we're leading in the 4th qtr. today and run, run, run. (and stay out of the prevent D)

Go LIONS !!!!!

SD's got a tough game today but I'm still hopin' they get in...


Sang - 12/18/2011 at 09:14 PM

Bears just really suck right now......


But at least the Packer's undefeated season is over.....................


emr - 12/19/2011 at 12:58 AM

I am a lifelong fan; but I have said this all season through the ups and downs

The Giants really suck


IPowrie - 12/19/2011 at 01:20 AM

What a game today out in Oakland. Glad the Lions won.


spacemonkey - 12/19/2011 at 04:26 AM

quote:
I am a lifelong fan; but I have said this all season through the ups and downs

The Giants really suck


I don't understand the defense at all. 3rd and 17 and you rush three and give Rex the hex all the time in the world to make a play. What ever happened to the giants D that brought pressure on the QB.??

And Gilbright just wants to throw the ball. Forgot about smash mouth football. Last week
against the cowboys twice he had 1st and goal inside the 5 and threw the ball three times and settled for field goals??????? The one time they brought in Jacobs and pounded the football they scored a TD.

Run the Ball and Bring Pressure, that is Giants football.

This teams approach is all wrong. Time for new coaches on Offense and Defense.
and perhaps the head coach also.

Bring back Spagnuola when the Rams fire him.





[Edited on 12/19/2011 by spacemonkey]


gondicar - 12/19/2011 at 12:43 PM

Everything that could have gone right for the Patriots this weekend, did. Pats put an emphatic end to Tebow magic (at least until he pulls out another last minute win against a crappy team), Jets lose (Pats clinch AFC East), Ravens lose (Pats now have home field over them if both teams win out), and lastly (and least significantly) Packers lose (no more undefeated season talk). So therefore it seems reasonable to conlcude that to keep trend going, the Steelers will lose tonight in San Fran.


DougMacKenzie - 12/19/2011 at 01:47 PM

Interesting weekend. I can't believe the Giants, Eagles, and Cowboys all still have a shot at the playoffs. I wonder how different the Pats-Broncos game gopes wiothpout all the Denver turnovers? They looked to be handing it to the Patsies in the first quarter. KC played hard against the Pack, who didn't really look all that interested. Hope the Steelers and Niners both bring it tonight. Great time of year for football. Still don't think the 'Pokes have the heart to make the playoffs. We'll see.


fensranger - 12/19/2011 at 04:17 PM

amazingly the eagles have a solid shot at playoffs now. If they win out and Jets beat Giants and then Giants beat Dallas, i think Eagles are in. That is not such a strange scenario.

Amazing number of surprises this weekend. Jets were mauled, Giants, Titans, Texans, Ravens, Bears and of course Green Bay. WOW!!!!!


Bhawk - 12/19/2011 at 04:27 PM

Chiefs

Todd who?


Sang - 12/19/2011 at 06:15 PM

Kyle Orton?


emr - 12/19/2011 at 07:28 PM

quote:
quote:
I am a lifelong fan; but I have said this all season through the ups and downs

The Giants really suck


I don't understand the defense at all. 3rd and 17 and you rush three and give Rex the hex all the time in the world to make a play. What ever happened to the giants D that brought pressure on the QB.??

And Gilbright just wants to throw the ball. Forgot about smash mouth football. Last week
against the cowboys twice he had 1st and goal inside the 5 and threw the ball three times and settled for field goals??????? The one time they brought in Jacobs and pounded the football they scored a TD.

Run the Ball and Bring Pressure, that is Giants football.

This teams approach is all wrong. Time for new coaches on Offense and Defense.
and perhaps the head coach also.

Bring back Spagnuola when the Rams fire him.





[Edited on 12/19/2011 by spacemonkey]


To paraphrase the "Tuna" who started the philosophy - it's the ten guys on the line of scrimmage who are important - the rest are worthless/interchangeable pieces of dirt whose only job is not to fumble


Bhawk - 12/19/2011 at 08:13 PM

quote:
Kyle Orton?




The Chiefs...can actually still make the playoffs. Crazy.


WharfRat - 12/20/2011 at 12:28 AM

quote:
So therefore it seems reasonable to conlcude that to keep trend going, the Steelers will lose tonight in San Fran.


A bit uneasy about tonight with a 1 legged Big Ben.. We shall see.


DanB - 12/20/2011 at 12:35 AM

quote:
quote:
So therefore it seems reasonable to conlcude that to keep trend going, the Steelers will lose tonight in San Fran.


A bit uneasy about tonight with a 1 legged Big Ben.. We shall see.


me too, I'm hoping Rashard Bendanfall has a big night


DougMacKenzie - 12/20/2011 at 01:45 AM

The lights just went out! I blame Sang.


Sang - 12/20/2011 at 01:55 AM

oops......................................


Sang - 12/20/2011 at 02:00 AM

What does this switch do...........................?


emr - 12/20/2011 at 03:23 AM

quote:
What does this switch do...........................?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IqmV7ZOazZ4&feature=results_main&pla ynext=1&list=PL2FA7BE88B5735AFC


Lee - 12/20/2011 at 11:13 AM

Kinda worried about the Lions' chances. Gotta play San Diego and their annual late-season push, then the Packers. Hopefully the Packers won't care cuz the game means nothing to them.


BIGV - 12/20/2011 at 01:19 PM

quote:
Kinda worried about the Lions' chances. Gotta play San Diego and their annual late-season push


Seems.....the Lions success rides with Megatron. A couple of weeks ago, the Saints all but shut him out and beat them. I don't know that Norv Turner will figure this out....But I expect Weddle will go wherever he goes.

quote:
then the Packers. Hopefully the Packers won't care cuz the game means nothing to them.


If the Lions beat San Diego, (I believe this puts Detroit in the playoffs as a WC) this game will mean nothing to them.


Lee - 12/20/2011 at 01:59 PM

quote:
quote:
Kinda worried about the Lions' chances. Gotta play San Diego and their annual late-season push


Seems.....the Lions success rides with Megatron. A couple of weeks ago, the Saints all but shut him out and beat them. I don't know that Norv Turner will figure this out....But I expect Weddle will go wherever he goes.

quote:
then the Packers. Hopefully the Packers won't care cuz the game means nothing to them.


If the Lions beat San Diego, (I believe this puts Detroit in the playoffs as a WC) this game will mean nothing to them.



They mentioned that on Mike and Mike yesterday. As a lifelong Lions sufferer, I ain't holding out high hopes for them!


Lee - 12/20/2011 at 02:01 PM

The Lions have one playoff win (YES ONE) since they won the NFL Championship in 1957 I think it was. They beat the Cowboys in 1991. That's it.


WharfRat - 12/22/2011 at 04:21 AM

If Big Ben plays on Saturday, Mike Tomlin deserves to ge FIRED.

No need to have him out there against the hapless Rams, or even the last week against the Brownies.

Rest up for the playoffs, Ben


spacemonkey - 12/23/2011 at 09:12 AM

Officals gave the game to the Colts tonight with all the ticky tack BS fouls called against the texans to keep the Colts late drives alive. this officiating crew is Flag happy.

on the one roughing the QB call the player was held by the lineman and thrown into the QB.

wott about the holding?

ridiculous !




[Edited on 12/23/2011 by spacemonkey]


BIGV - 12/23/2011 at 09:28 AM

quote:
Officals gave the game to the Colts tonight with all the ticky tack BS fouls called against the texans to keep the Colts late drives alive.


Agreed. The one complaint I have with this product is the officiating. Hands down. The bad calls will continue through this weekend, "Bad" in the sense that the league's willingness to just let these guys play football seems to have just disappeared.


BIGV - 12/23/2011 at 09:40 AM

The Ravens will have their talons full with the Browns

I don't believe the Bills will lose their tenth in a row this weekend

San Diego @ Detroit. Which one of these Coaches do you believe in?

Cam Newton will set the other QB record this weekend

This weekend I'll take the Chiefs and the Eagles to continue their unlikely rolls.

Tough, tough week for Bears fans

My upset of the week is the Seahawks. Turnovers


DougMacKenzie - 12/23/2011 at 01:20 PM

I'm so looking forward to the Eagles-Cowboys game tomorrow night. If the Cowboys stay true to the Romo era they'll get crushed. If they do, they will probably lose next week to the Giants. What will Jones do then? It's a big game on a big stage with everything on the line. We'll see.


piacere - 12/23/2011 at 01:42 PM

doesn't matter...

PATRIOTS !!!!!


gondicar - 12/23/2011 at 03:02 PM

quote:
doesn't matter...

PATRIOTS !!!!!


What he said.


fensranger - 12/23/2011 at 05:34 PM

i agree with posts about the refs last night. The league is going over the top to protect QBs and also to prevent defensive backs from touching receivers. The concussion thing is valid but this is contact, tackle football, not intramural flag football which it is becoming.

I am not sure if the league is setting the policy but helmet to helmet is one thing-the stuff they are now calling every game is ludicrous. I watch in amazement at the calls each week. How can you defend Michael Vick if you can only tackle or hit him around the waste.


spacemonkey - 12/23/2011 at 06:53 PM

I didn't care who won last night, no rooting or betting interest in the game either way.

Just sat down to watch the end of a close football game, only to have the referees ruin any enjoyment of the game at all.


spacemonkey - 12/23/2011 at 06:55 PM

quote:
i agree with posts about the refs last night. The league is going over the top to protect QBs and also to prevent defensive backs from touching receivers. The concussion thing is valid but this is contact, tackle football, not intramural flag football which it is becoming.

I am not sure if the league is setting the policy but helmet to helmet is one thing-the stuff they are now calling every game is ludicrous. I watch in amazement at the calls each week. How can you defend Michael Vick if you can only tackle or hit him around the waste.


If they make it touch football there will be endless replays to see if the back was touched or not.


geordielad - 12/23/2011 at 07:15 PM

quote:
quote:
i agree with posts about the refs last night. The league is going over the top to protect QBs and also to prevent defensive backs from touching receivers. The concussion thing is valid but this is contact, tackle football, not intramural flag football which it is becoming.

I am not sure if the league is setting the policy but helmet to helmet is one thing-the stuff they are now calling every game is ludicrous. I watch in amazement at the calls each week. How can you defend Michael Vick if you can only tackle or hit him around the waste.




If they make it touch football there will be endless replays to see if the back was touched or not.



Along with the Jimmy Graham decision last week and the awful review of every scoring play, the NFL would appear to be trying to regulate itself right up its own ass!


WharfRat - 12/24/2011 at 02:31 AM

quote:
the NFL would appear to be trying to regulate itself right up its own ass!


Couldnt agree more.

Just put a effin dress on the damn QBs already


brofan - 12/24/2011 at 02:45 AM

quote:
The Lions have one playoff win (YES ONE) since they won the NFL Championship in 1957 I think it was. They beat the Cowboys in 1991. That's it.


....and I concede our bet. Thanks to the most worthless GM in the history of the NFL, Jerry
"Hanie will do just fine" & "Mark, whistle Dixie" Angelo. Who will probably get yet another contract extension by the clueless McCaskeys.


brofan - 12/24/2011 at 02:47 AM

quote:
If Big Ben plays on Saturday, Mike Tomlin deserves to ge FIRED.

No need to have him out there against the hapless Rams, or even the last week against the Brownies.

Rest up for the playoffs, Ben


Tomlin deserves to get fired? Man, you have a short memory. Have you taken a look around at what other "Head Coaches" are available lately?

Roethlisberger, like Ray Lewis, is lucky he isn't looking THROUGH a gridiron ever Sunday...


Lee - 12/24/2011 at 01:16 PM

Weird that today is NFL day. Gonna miss my Lions game on a train to relatives.


Merry Xmas to all the NFL fans here!!


DougMacKenzie - 12/24/2011 at 01:16 PM

Lord help me. I can't stop myself.

COWBOYS!!!!!!


Lee - 12/24/2011 at 01:29 PM

I picked your darn Cowboys. Giving 2.5 points. Should be a great game!


DanB - 12/24/2011 at 02:19 PM

Go Giants!!! I'm hoping for a blowout although it still will not shut Ryan's big mouth. Damn toe sucker!!!!!


piacere - 12/24/2011 at 02:31 PM

quote:
Weird that today is NFL day. Gonna miss my Lions game on a train to relatives.


Merry Xmas to all the NFL fans here!!


Merry Christmas to you too and all NFLers.

even Sang.

MacKenzie made me laugh. Listen...Doug, there's still time, my man. Look to the northeast, rid yourself of the burden of beleaguredness, the despair and hopelessness, the angst, the anxiety.... and turn instead to the light of redemption and gridiron salvation...

PATRIOTS !!!!!!!


alloak41 - 12/24/2011 at 03:18 PM

quote:
Weird that today is NFL day. Gonna miss my Lions game on a train to relatives.



I like the Lions in this spot. The oddsmakers seem to overvalue San Diego and I think they're doing so in this case. I feel like the Lions should be a slight favorite at home.

TAKE DETRIOT +2


spacemonkey - 12/24/2011 at 06:52 PM

1 st and goal at the 2 and the giants go play action, don't even try to run it.

pussies

don't deserve to be in the playoffs.


Sang - 12/24/2011 at 07:40 PM

quote:
quote:
Weird that today is NFL day. Gonna miss my Lions game on a train to relatives.


Merry Xmas to all the NFL fans here!!


Merry Christmas to you too and all NFLers.

Especially Sang!

MacKenzie made me laugh. Listen...Doug, there's still time, my man. Look to the northeast, rid yourself of the burden of beleaguredness, the despair and hopelessness, the angst, the anxiety.... and turn instead to the light of redemption and gridiron salvation...

PATRIOTS !!!!!!!


Thanks! Merry Christmas to you, too. Hope you didn't see the halftime score........


geordielad - 12/24/2011 at 09:14 PM

Hopeless overturn in my very admittedly non expert English opinion. Sanchez had given up on the pass and was trying to secure the ball. How can that not be a fumble? More ammo for my no instant replay for football ( Soccer) argument!


geordielad - 12/24/2011 at 09:18 PM

Ok, I see the overturn was correct as per the rules...... Crap rule!


spacemonkey - 12/24/2011 at 10:20 PM

quote:
Ok, I see the overturn was correct as per the rules...... Crap rule!


agreed. He was not attempting a pass, so how can it be incomplete?

Giants grew some nuts at halftime and decide to run the ball and they win.

Dumb asses, I have been bitching about this all season.


IPowrie - 12/25/2011 at 12:01 AM

Great game in Detroit today and good officiating. Playoffs baby


michaelsio - 12/25/2011 at 12:56 AM

quote:
Great game in Detroit today and good officiating. Playoffs baby


Awwww....it's always nice to see new hope blossom.


piacere - 12/25/2011 at 02:32 PM

I just don't understand Rex getting into it with an opposing teams' player. The guy is becoming a caricature of himself.

Bummed about SD. Maybe it's a good thing, give the boot to Norv and A.J. Smith.

Dallas/Giants is looking like THE game next week, though Romo's hand looked like a balloon...and I think the Giants have a little too much for the 'pokes.

I STILL don't know how we're 12 and 3. I know, Brady/offense but in the playoffs we'll need to score 40 points to hang in because you know the Patriots defense is going to give up some serious points.

9ers/Saints/Packers. Tough call.

Again, Merry Christmas guys, God bless.


WharfRat - 12/25/2011 at 09:52 PM

quote:
quote:
If Big Ben plays on Saturday, Mike Tomlin deserves to ge FIRED.

No need to have him out there against the hapless Rams, or even the last week against the Brownies.

Rest up for the playoffs, Ben


Tomlin deserves to get fired? Man, you have a short memory. Have you taken a look around at what other "Head Coaches" are available lately?




Exactly my point. First Tomlin would have been been as dumb as starting Ben yesterday.
They need to sit him again next week.


spacemonkey - 12/27/2011 at 02:37 AM

quote:
quote:
quote:
If Big Ben plays on Saturday, Mike Tomlin deserves to ge FIRED.

No need to have him out there against the hapless Rams, or even the last week against the Brownies.

Rest up for the playoffs, Ben


Tomlin deserves to get fired? Man, you have a short memory. Have you taken a look around at what other "Head Coaches" are available lately?




Exactly my point. First Tomlin would have been been as dumb as starting Ben yesterday.
They need to sit him again next week.



With Ben on the bench the Steelers finally remembered that they can run the ball.


spacemonkey - 12/27/2011 at 02:39 AM

another ridiculous PF call on a defender breaking up a pass. might as well be touch football.

and what the heck is a defenseless receiver anyway?

Every one of those receivers KNOWS EXACTLY where the Safety is coming from when he makes his cut in front of them. They should be prepared to get hit, this is supposed to be football.





[Edited on 12/27/2011 by spacemonkey]


fensranger - 12/27/2011 at 03:08 PM

agree, the game is now all offense because QBs and even WRs are being over protected. The calls are atrocious and guys like Brady in particular are treated like china dolls. That is why everyone hates the guy. He complains and gets so many calls that go his way. Soon defense will be non existent As it now stands, only teams that do well have a top 10 QB. Other teams just cannot compete with running or defense.


DougMacKenzie - 12/27/2011 at 03:11 PM

Agree with what you guys are saying, it is really taking away from the game. We should just go back to leather helmets. I don't see how the 'Pokes beat the giants in NY, and the Giants aren't even playing that well. Why won't Jerry just fire himself? This is really getting old.


WharfRat - 12/28/2011 at 12:47 AM

5 Steelers were named to the 2012 Pro Bowl:
-Troy Polamalu - Safety
-Maurkice Pouncey - Center
-Mike Wallace - Wide Receiver
-Ben Roethlisberger - Quarterback
-Antonio Brown - Kick Returner


Sang - 12/28/2011 at 02:26 PM

Big Deal - so were 5 Bears:

Briggs
Urlacher
Forte
Tillman
Graham


spacemonkey - 12/28/2011 at 04:46 PM

quote:
I just don't understand Rex getting into it with an opposing teams' player. The guy is becoming a caricature of himself.



Jacobs used some strong language. Not exactly "Merry Christmas"


piacere - 12/29/2011 at 02:13 PM

quote:
5 Steelers were named to the 2012 Pro Bowl:
-Troy Polamalu - Safety
-Maurkice Pouncey - Center
-Mike Wallace - Wide Receiver
-Ben Roethlisberger - Quarterback
-Antonio Brown - Kick Returner




awwwww, how nice.

Patriots had like 94.

big deal.

rings baby, rings.


Sang - 12/29/2011 at 02:33 PM

But none on defense...............


piacere - 12/29/2011 at 02:37 PM

quote:
But none on defense...............


we don't HAVE a defense...


Bhawk - 12/29/2011 at 02:51 PM

quote:
quote:
But none on defense...............


we don't HAVE a defense...


Hard to get any more rings that way.


Bhawk - 12/29/2011 at 02:53 PM

It may have been another lost season for the Chiefs, but we have the chance to ruin the Bronco season and spare America from hearing about Tim Tebow in the playoffs.

C'mon now, who's rooting for the Chiefs this Sunday?


gondicar - 12/29/2011 at 03:06 PM

quote:
But none on defense...............


Pats have 8 total Pro Bowlers (tied with SF for the most), and 2 are from the defense...

Offense:
Tom Brady
Wes Welker
Rob Gronkowski
Brian Waters
Logan Mankins

Defense:
Vince Wilfork
Andre Carter

Special Teams:
Matthew Slater


gondicar - 12/29/2011 at 03:06 PM

quote:
It may have been another lost season for the Chiefs, but we have the chance to ruin the Bronco season and spare America from hearing about Tim Tebow in the playoffs.

C'mon now, who's rooting for the Chiefs this Sunday?



Sang - 12/29/2011 at 03:24 PM

Rooting for the Chiefs would be like crying at Kim Jong's funeral - but I'm willing to do it to not hear about Tebow anymore.......


DanB - 12/29/2011 at 04:22 PM

quote:
quote:
But none on defense...............


Pats have 8 total Pro Bowlers (tied with SF for the most), and 2 are from the defense...

Offense:
Tom Brady
Wes Welker
Rob Gronkowski
Brian Waters
Logan Mankins

Defense:
Vince Wilfork
Andre Carter

Special Teams:
Matthew Slater



and it looks as though they will all get to play as they'll have that week off anyway


piacere - 12/29/2011 at 06:33 PM

quote:
quote:
quote:
But none on defense...............


we don't HAVE a defense...


Hard to get any more rings that way.


not as hard as from the golf course...


spacemonkey - 12/29/2011 at 08:21 PM

quote:
It may have been another lost season for the Chiefs, but we have the chance to ruin the Bronco season and spare America from hearing about Tim Tebow in the playoffs.

C'mon now, who's rooting for the Chiefs this Sunday?


anything to stop the tebow train wreck

go chiefs

Put 8 in the box and dare him to throw with his candy arm.


fensranger - 12/29/2011 at 09:07 PM

go CHIEFS!!!!


BIGV - 12/29/2011 at 09:52 PM

quote:
spare America from hearing about Tim Tebow in the playoffs.


A M E N


pops42 - 12/29/2011 at 10:17 PM

Jesus is a Saints fan.


Lee - 12/30/2011 at 12:01 PM

quote:
Big Deal - so were 5 Bears:

Briggs
Urlacher
Forte
Tillman
Graham



Exactly. My Lions have one and we are in the playoffs. Stafford shoulda been the third QB in my opinion.


WharfRat - 12/31/2011 at 01:40 PM

Gooooooooooo Bungles!!!

Reason is 2 fold..

A Bungle win over the dirty birds, and a STEELER victory over the hapless Brownies gives them the divison title

AND the Bungle win knocks the Jests out of the picture

Bye bye Rexy!


piacere - 12/31/2011 at 02:14 PM

I'm ok with the Jets knocked out of the picture.

After that, it really doesn't matter.

You're all toast.


DougMacKenzie - 12/31/2011 at 02:21 PM

I have a bad feeling about Sunday night..........


piacere - 12/31/2011 at 02:30 PM

quote:
I have a bad feeling about Sunday night..........


you should.

Hey man, I finished reading that thing you wrote. You can write. Told you before, I majored in English, then English Literature and I've read my fair share of writings and that was a moving, well-written piece.

You can write. I'd shop that around to be published. You rock.


Sang - 12/31/2011 at 04:24 PM

Must be a fantasy about the Cowboys winning again......


WharfRat - 1/1/2012 at 02:11 PM

quote:
I have a bad feeling about Sunday night..........







DanB - 1/1/2012 at 03:14 PM

quote:
Must be a fantasy about the Cowboys winning again......


a sonnet professing love for Jerry Jones


emr - 1/1/2012 at 04:20 PM

As a lifelong Giant fan I hate to say this, but the Cowboys are playing the only team with any chance of folding up as easily as they do. I don't anticipate a game of artistic beauty; more like last man standing.


IPowrie - 1/1/2012 at 05:12 PM

The biggest question today in the NFL is will the Lions win at Green Bay for the first time in 20 years Go Lions


IPowrie - 1/1/2012 at 09:54 PM

The refs played god in that game


DanB - 1/2/2012 at 03:07 AM


leafsfan - 1/2/2012 at 03:08 AM

Why does Romo not run for first down when he had the chance mid way through the second? He is 2-3 yards over the line of scrimmage when he throws the ball. All he needs is five yards. All he had to do was stretch out. Huge game changer.

How much do they pay that clown??? Over fricken rated.


pops42 - 1/2/2012 at 07:33 AM

Giants are in playoff mode!, though they looked like they were passing the bong around in the half-time locker room. the way they started the second half??. they need to get rid of that slug [brandon jakobs] he hits the line like a one-legged turtle.


piacere - 1/2/2012 at 02:33 PM

if the Patriots had the Giants defensive line, we'd never lose a game.

Ever.


DougMacKenzie - 1/2/2012 at 02:48 PM

Another pathetic crunch time outting by the 'Pokes. They are 2-10 in final games of the regular season since 2000, are 12-16 in Dec-Jan since 2006, and have one playoff win since 1996. The only consistent thing in all that time is their performance and Jerry Jones, yet the fool refuses to see the truth of the matter. Jones brings the players in, decides who to sign when for how long and how much, "evaluates" talent. When you have a wanna be coach trying to run the team you're gonna play like a wanna be team, which is just what they are. Any self-respecting coach would tell Jerry to stick it. I lost any repsect I had for Jason Garrett as soon as he agreed to take over the team. What a mess.


DougMacKenzie - 1/2/2012 at 02:50 PM

quote:
As a lifelong Giant fan I hate to say this, but the Cowboys are playing the only team with any chance of folding up as easily as they do. I don't anticipate a game of artistic beauty; more like last man standing.


Hey, the Giants tried to give the game to Cowboys. The Cowboys refused to take it.


emr - 1/2/2012 at 03:55 PM

quote:
quote:
As a lifelong Giant fan I hate to say this, but the Cowboys are playing the only team with any chance of folding up as easily as they do. I don't anticipate a game of artistic beauty; more like last man standing.


Hey, the Giants tried to give the game to Cowboys. The Cowboys refused to take it.


I know; I have to admit that without a doubt the Cowboys suck more than the Giants. I turned off the TV at halftime; convinced they could blow that lead. Was a bit nervous when I turned it back on at 21-14.


DanB - 1/2/2012 at 06:02 PM

boy the Jets have turned into dumpster fire


spacemonkey - 1/2/2012 at 07:24 PM

quote:
quote:
It may have been another lost season for the Chiefs, but we have the chance to ruin the Bronco season and spare America from hearing about Tim Tebow in the playoffs.

C'mon now, who's rooting for the Chiefs this Sunday?


anything to stop the tebow train wreck

go chiefs

Put 8 in the box and dare him to throw with his candy arm.




IT worked.

Do you think the steelers will have trouble stopping mr candy arm?


spacemonkey - 1/2/2012 at 07:33 PM

quote:
Giants are in playoff mode!, though they looked like they were passing the bong around in the half-time locker room. the way they started the second half??. they need to get rid of that slug [brandon jakobs] he hits the line like a one-legged turtle.


Can't put all the blame on Jacobs. The line is not opening up holes. The rookie fullback
continues to whiff on blocks. He whiffed on the linebacker on the 4th and 1 failure.
New offensive line is still a work in progress.

The difference in this game was the defense. The giants got pressure on the QB, The cowpokes did not. Eli was able to find open receivers, Romo not so much.

And Victor Cruz is a play maker. No one is missing Steve Smith. Need to get Nicks and Manningham healthy.

But if you can't run the ball against the Packers or the Saints, you might as well stay at home for the playoffs. You will not beat those teams in a shootout.


BIGV - 1/2/2012 at 09:08 PM

quote:
boy the Jets have turned into dumpster fire


Ain't that a shame.

Seriously. Thank God the Ryan brothers and their pie holes did not make the big soiree. But, true to form, maybe next year Rex can predict the jets will win the SB......again.

C'mon Rex, even a blind squirrel finds an acorn every once in a blue moon.


emr - 1/2/2012 at 10:14 PM

quote:
quote:
boy the Jets have turned into dumpster fire


Ain't that a shame.

Seriously. Thank God the Ryan brothers and their pie holes did not make the big soiree. But, true to form, maybe next year Rex can predict the jets will win the SB......again.

C'mon Rex, even a blind squirrel finds an acorn every once in a blue moon.


I have never been a Sanchez fan. He is on the wrong team in the wrong division. Northeast Quarterbacks need rifle arms - he'd be fine in a dome


LeglizHemp - 1/2/2012 at 10:51 PM

Boom Baby! Colts fire vice chairman Bill Polian and general manager Chris Polian
http://www.indystar.com/article/20120102/SPORTS03/120102024/Colts-fire-Bill -Chris-Polian-team-owner-Jim-Irsay-says-time-change-?odyssey=tab|topnews|te xt|IndyStar.com


emr - 1/2/2012 at 10:59 PM

quote:
Boom Baby! Colts fire vice chairman Bill Polian and general manager Chris Polian
http://www.indystar.com/article/20120102/SPORTS03/120102024/Colts-fire-Bill -Chris-Polian-team-owner-Jim-Irsay-says-time-change-?odyssey=tab|topnews|te xt|IndyStar.com




For years the franchise has been in decline; only Peyton kept them making the playoffs. I think ownership didn't want to spend more money to make them "elite" He should be voted this year's MVP.

Personally, I think that luck is overated. He is not a savior Quarterback. I'd trade him, start rebuilding and pick up a level 2 Quarterback if peyton can't make it back. If he comes back strong but the team looks too weak to make a run I'd trade him too. This group may be years away from regrouping


WharfRat - 1/2/2012 at 11:35 PM

quote:
quote:
quote:
It may have been another lost season for the Chiefs, but we have the chance to ruin the Bronco season and spare America from hearing about Tim Tebow in the playoffs.

C'mon now, who's rooting for the Chiefs this Sunday?


anything to stop the tebow train wreck

go chiefs

Put 8 in the box and dare him to throw with his candy arm.




IT worked.

Do you think the steelers will have trouble stopping mr candy arm?




Tebow better start praying.


Now


Sang - 1/3/2012 at 12:16 AM

Looks like his first one was answered...............

Tests confirmed that Pittsburgh Steelers running back Rashard Mendenhall has a torn ACL in his right knee and is out for the season, a league source told ESPN NFL Insider Adam Schefter.


WharfRat - 1/3/2012 at 12:49 AM

He was having a miserable season anyway..

No big loss


piacere - 1/3/2012 at 02:02 PM

doesn't matter.

more idle banter.

listen, I'll make this real easy for the enlightened-impaired...

...PATRIOTS!!!!


Sang - 1/3/2012 at 02:28 PM

..........have no defense!!!!


Sang - 1/3/2012 at 03:06 PM

My prediction: Packers 56 Patriots 51...........

Pools that pay on every score run out of money in the 3rd quarter...........


Bhawk - 1/3/2012 at 03:33 PM

quote:
quote:
quote:
It may have been another lost season for the Chiefs, but we have the chance to ruin the Bronco season and spare America from hearing about Tim Tebow in the playoffs.

C'mon now, who's rooting for the Chiefs this Sunday?


anything to stop the tebow train wreck

go chiefs

Put 8 in the box and dare him to throw with his candy arm.




IT worked.

Do you think the steelers will have trouble stopping mr candy arm?




None whatsoever.

Tebow is awful and very lucky the Bronco defense is as good as it is this year.


Bhawk - 1/3/2012 at 08:25 PM

The Chargers have announced that both AJ Smith and Norv Turner will return next season.

Alrighty then.


Bhawk - 1/3/2012 at 08:26 PM

Jerry Angelo and Mike Martz are out at Halas Hall.

That Angelo move was long overdue, IMO...


Sang - 1/3/2012 at 08:37 PM

Nobody could pick a first round bust better than Jerry Angelo................


spacemonkey - 1/3/2012 at 08:39 PM

The Giants should rehire Spagnola for Defense Coordinator. The defense has slipped since he left.

IF they don't someone else will.


Bhawk - 1/3/2012 at 09:35 PM

Andy Reid will return to coach the Iggles for a 14th season.


Bhawk - 1/3/2012 at 09:35 PM

The Patriots have not beat a team with a winning record this season. Interesting.


fensranger - 1/3/2012 at 09:35 PM

i think giants will be fine in playoffs. I expect them to be very competitive and they have a chance to beat anyone. They have a better defense than any team in NFC except SF although that does not say much. If Giants D brings the pass rush they will beat anyone. The Giants offense if getting healthy and if Manningham gets healthy their receivers including Bradshaw are as good as Saints or Green Bay.


Brendan - 1/3/2012 at 09:38 PM

quote:
Andy Reid will return to coach the Iggles for a 14th season.
Lurie loves him. He wasn't going anywhere. I think they may take a look at Spagnola for the DC. I think Castillo is done. Interesting to see what they do with DeSean Jackson. Sort of a d-bag, but Reid loves him and he is an exciting player to have on your team...


fensranger - 1/4/2012 at 12:03 AM

trade deshon jackson for santonio holmes!!!! 2 teams that were probably the biggest disappointments in the league this season.


Brendan - 1/4/2012 at 03:28 PM

quote:
trade deshon jackson for santonio holmes!!!! 2 teams that were probably the biggest disappointments in the league this season.
Yeesh, no thanks...


gondicar - 1/4/2012 at 04:12 PM

quote:
The Patriots have not beat a team with a winning record this season. Interesting.


It is pretty remarkable that they only had 2 teams on their schedule that ended up with winning records (Pixberg and the Gints). Of course those are 2 of the 3 losses they had, and they came in back-to-back weeks. Going into the season I'm not sure that anyone would have predicted that considering they also played Philly, San Diego, NYJets, Dallas, and even Indy (before and maybe even after we know Peyton was out, I doubt anyone predicted the kind of season they had) and Denver (division winner without a winning record, talk about backing into the playoffs!).


IPowrie - 1/4/2012 at 04:16 PM

quote:
Nobody could pick a first round bust better than Jerry Angelo................


Matt Millen could


fensranger - 1/4/2012 at 05:07 PM

how bout the Jets picking Vernon Gholston!!!!


gondicar - 1/4/2012 at 05:15 PM

Rememeber the big Ryan Leaf vs. Peyton Manning debate? Polian should have had a job for life just for getting that one right.


DanB - 1/4/2012 at 06:02 PM

quote:
quote:
The Patriots have not beat a team with a winning record this season. Interesting.


It is pretty remarkable that they only had 2 teams on their schedule that ended up with winning records (Pixberg and the Gints). Of course those are 2 of the 3 losses they had, and they came in back-to-back weeks. Going into the season I'm not sure that anyone would have predicted that considering they also played Philly, San Diego, NYJets, Dallas, and even Indy (before and maybe even after we know Peyton was out, I doubt anyone predicted the kind of season they had) and Denver (division winner without a winning record, talk about backing into the playoffs!).




Well The Patsy's do play in the AFC LEast


spacemonkey - 1/4/2012 at 06:08 PM

quote:
i think giants will be fine in playoffs. I expect them to be very competitive and they have a chance to beat anyone. They have a better defense than any team in NFC except SF although that does not say much. If Giants D brings the pass rush they will beat anyone. The Giants offense if getting healthy and if Manningham gets healthy their receivers including Bradshaw are as good as Saints or Green Bay.



It all depends on the O-line play. They have to run the ball better to beat Green Bay or
New Orleans IMO.


gotdrumz - 1/4/2012 at 06:32 PM

The usual suspects are gonna flounder in the play-offs and hopefully we get a surprise when it's all said and done.


spacemonkey - 1/4/2012 at 09:19 PM

i wonder if dug is watching the giants/cowboys replay on nfl networks tonight?


spacemonkey - 1/4/2012 at 09:21 PM

quote:
quote:
Andy Reid will return to coach the Iggles for a 14th season.
Lurie loves him. He wasn't going anywhere. I think they may take a look at Spagnola for the DC. I think Castillo is done. Interesting to see what they do with DeSean Jackson. Sort of a d-bag, but Reid loves him and he is an exciting player to have on your team...


the giants need to rehire Spags first! the players love him.


Brendan - 1/4/2012 at 09:48 PM

Oh to hell with your Giants...

I think a lot of teams will be looking at him.


Lee - 1/4/2012 at 09:52 PM

Take the Lions and 10.5





spacemonkey - 1/5/2012 at 12:52 AM

quote:
Oh to hell with your Giants...

I think a lot of teams will be looking at him.


yep!

eff the Eagles!




Sang - 1/5/2012 at 03:54 AM

Go BEARS!














oops..............





















nevermind.


IPowrie - 1/5/2012 at 05:15 AM

quote:
quote:
i think giants will be fine in playoffs. I expect them to be very competitive and they have a chance to beat anyone. They have a better defense than any team in NFC except SF although that does not say much. If Giants D brings the pass rush they will beat anyone. The Giants offense if getting healthy and if Manningham gets healthy their receivers including Bradshaw are as good as Saints or Green Bay.



It all depends on the O-line play. They have to run the ball better to beat Green Bay or
New Orleans IMO.




No need to worry about either of those teams Detroit will take care of them


DougMacKenzie - 1/5/2012 at 11:58 AM

quote:
i wonder if dug is watching the giants/cowboys replay on nfl networks tonight?



Uggghhhhh....No.


piacere - 1/5/2012 at 01:37 PM

go Bengals!!


piacere - 1/5/2012 at 02:01 PM

Hey Chargers...

...if you lick the lollipop of mediocrity, you'll always suck...


WharfRat - 1/5/2012 at 02:14 PM

The BRONCOS?


Really?


Bhawk - 1/5/2012 at 02:34 PM

quote:
The BRONCOS?


Really?


The Steelers are going to lay down a serious a$$-kicking on the donkeys. It might not be reflected on the scoreboard at the end, but the Steeler defense is going to eat Tebow alive.


piacere - 1/5/2012 at 03:54 PM

ok...so which one of you desert roamers is ridin' number seven?


spacemonkey - 1/5/2012 at 04:19 PM

quote:
quote:
i wonder if dug is watching the giants/cowboys replay on nfl networks tonight?



Uggghhhhh....No.


I watched it, twice!


DougMacKenzie - 1/5/2012 at 07:18 PM

That's jsut sick.


Brendan - 1/5/2012 at 07:21 PM

quote:
That's jsut sick.
What do you expect? He's a Giants fan...


fensranger - 1/5/2012 at 08:38 PM

does anyone else like detroit plus 10 1/2 points. That seems like an enormous spread to me.


WharfRat - 1/6/2012 at 02:18 AM

Not with the way Brees is playing.


spacemonkey - 1/6/2012 at 02:29 AM

quote:
quote:
That's jsut sick.
What do you expect? He's a Giants fan...




DOWN WITH PANTS!

GO GIANTS


spacemonkey - 1/6/2012 at 02:31 AM

I tivo'ed it might watch it again tonight!


WharfRat - 1/6/2012 at 02:48 AM

quote:
I tivo'ed it might watch it again tonight!


The game or her?


spacemonkey - 1/6/2012 at 02:49 AM

quote:
quote:
I tivo'ed it might watch it again tonight!


The game or her?


the game

with her!


WharfRat - 1/6/2012 at 02:53 AM

Good answer


DougMacKenzie - 1/6/2012 at 12:05 PM

I'll have to settle for watching my "History of the Dallas Cowboys" DVD with my wife.


gondicar - 1/6/2012 at 01:24 PM

quote:
I'll have to settle for watching my "History of the Dallas Cowboys" DVD with my wife.


Is it in black and white?


DougMacKenzie - 1/6/2012 at 02:02 PM

quote:
quote:
I'll have to settle for watching my "History of the Dallas Cowboys" DVD with my wife.


Is it in black and white?

Only the first half.


piacere - 1/6/2012 at 02:10 PM

once again and with a great deal of patience, I have to remind you wanderers to keep things in perspective and to stay focused...

...PATRIOTS !!!!!!!


gondicar - 1/6/2012 at 02:45 PM

quote:
quote:
quote:
I'll have to settle for watching my "History of the Dallas Cowboys" DVD with my wife.


Is it in black and white?

Only the first half.


Well played.

Is this included in the 2nd half?


DougMacKenzie - 1/6/2012 at 02:52 PM

Ummm.....No.


spacemonkey - 1/6/2012 at 09:03 PM

I have a tape of the NFL replays games of the Giants run to the Superbowl starting with the wild care game.

that is fun to watch also!

Hoping to make one of this years run as well

GO GIANTS!


gondicar - 1/6/2012 at 10:29 PM

quote:
I have a tape of the NFL replays games of the Giants run to the Superbowl starting with the wild care game.

that is fun to watch also!

Hoping to make one of this years run as well

GO GIANTS!


This Pats fan would love a rematch of that Superbowl (especially after getting bested by the Gints again this season).


WharfRat - 1/7/2012 at 01:12 AM

Oh no no no..

Not that I am against the G-Men, but this Steeler fan would LOVE revenge against the Cheeseheads


spacemonkey - 1/7/2012 at 02:57 AM

quote:
quote:
I have a tape of the NFL replays games of the Giants run to the Superbowl starting with the wild care game.

that is fun to watch also!

Hoping to make one of this years run as well

GO GIANTS!


This Pats fan would love a rematch of that Superbowl (especially after getting bested by the Gints again this season).


are you a masochist ?


How many whippings do you need?




BIGV - 1/7/2012 at 07:28 AM

Andy Dalton can win in Houston as long as Foster and Tate don't run wild. Ill take the under/38.5

Will there be any punting in New Orleans?...I'll take the Over/59.5

So, the Giants are on fire?....Their "run" consists of Dallas (8-8) and the Jets, who also finished at .500, I'll take Micheal Turner & co. +3

The Steelers are literally limping into Mile high stadium. I'll take the the points, in this case +8.5

I've 100 biscuits out there on this 4 team "guess"....


spacemonkey - 1/7/2012 at 07:47 AM

I would not say the giants are on fire. The running game is still suspect. The pass blocking is coming together, but new players are still making mistakes on the O-line and at full back.
The Dallas 4th and 1 failure, Gilbright calling passing plays on first and goal downs shows his lack of confidence in the running game. These are symptoms of poor O-line play. But they showed some signs of life against Dallas.

But they finally have all the pieces healthy on defense. I hope this gets Perry Fewell to be more aggressive. If he choose to sit back and play zone it could be a long afternoon for the Giants secondary against Atlanta's talented group of receivers.

The last Super Bowl run started with the D getting healthy and getting on a run, I think there are signs of that now if they can stay healthy. Osi and Tuck are just getting into full form from their many nicks and twists. Tuck has been banged up all year and is just getting stronger now. Signal caller Boley is back at Linebacker. Kenny Phillips is back at safety.

So I think if the O-line can get the running game going and the D stays healthy the Giants should be respectable and maybe get hot. Which is what happened on the last trip to the Super Bowl.

Will history repeat?







[Edited on 1/7/2012 by spacemonkey]


BIGV - 1/7/2012 at 10:03 AM

quote:
So I think if the O-line can get the running game going and the D stays healthy the Giants should be respectable and maybe get hot. Which is what happened on the last trip to the Super Bowl.

Will history repeat?


Probably not. A quick look at the official NFL stats for the Giants SB year (2007) shows the G-Men 4th in the NFL (Total rushing yds) @ 4.6 yds. per carry. This season, they enter the playoffs dead last in rushing yds. @ 3.5 yds per. Hardly the same....This game should be a good test for both teams in that as goes Micheal Turner, so go the birds.


BIGV - 1/7/2012 at 10:15 AM

quote:
I'll have to settle for watching my "History of the Dallas Cowboys" DVD with my wife.


With the last chapter covering the lone playoff victory in the '96-2011 time frame.


DougMacKenzie - 1/7/2012 at 11:59 AM

quote:
quote:
I'll have to settle for watching my "History of the Dallas Cowboys" DVD with my wife.


With the last chapter covering the lone playoff victory in the '96-2011 time frame.



I got it as a present right after Emmitt got the rushing title. Before things got really bad. At the time it seemed like just another reloading period. That seems so long ago...........


spacemonkey - 1/7/2012 at 12:02 PM

quote:
quote:
So I think if the O-line can get the running game going and the D stays healthy the Giants should be respectable and maybe get hot. Which is what happened on the last trip to the Super Bowl.

Will history repeat?


Probably not. A quick look at the official NFL stats for the Giants SB year (2007) shows the G-Men 4th in the NFL (Total rushing yds) @ 4.6 yds. per carry. This season, they enter the playoffs dead last in rushing yds. @ 3.5 yds per. Hardly the same....This game should be a good test for both teams in that as goes Micheal Turner, so go the birds.


that is a fair analysis, You do have to consider they have improved some at the end of the year, and all the personnel changes, so perhaps they might be coming together now. one can always hope.

but I wouldn't bet the farm on it.


DougMacKenzie - 1/7/2012 at 12:10 PM

Things are going to be very interesting this year. Arguably three of the top teams play great offense but little defense. It's obvious the game has really changed, but I'm interested in seeing if offense now trumps defense on a consistent basis in the playoffs. Eiher way, it should be fun to watch. Good luck to all with teams still in the hunt. I thgink the Giants are a pretty dangerous team right now.


piacere - 1/7/2012 at 02:18 PM

this Pats fan would love an '07 rematch too.

Man, would I love that.


Sang - 1/7/2012 at 04:43 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EsCyC1dZiN8


WharfRat - 1/8/2012 at 02:56 AM

Psst..

Yo. Mark.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ogV751kbRo8

Hope this helps


IPowrie - 1/8/2012 at 04:20 AM

At least the Lions made the playoffs. Still would be nice to have the refs support from time to time like on the strip of Brees that should of never been blown dead took away a sure return for a touchdown. Also I felt in crunch time they were giving the Saints so damn good spots. Benefit of being one of the league favorites I guess.

[Edited on 1/8/2012 by IPowrie]


DougMacKenzie - 1/8/2012 at 01:06 PM

Oh c'mon, man! The Lions are a young, up and coming team who had a great season, showed tons of heart, and made the playoffs for the first time in forever. Don't cheapen their accomplishments by whining about calls (as the commentators pointed out, once the ball was blwon dead before the recovery the ball should have gone back to the Saints). What killed them is dropping two sure interceptions and not being able to get their defense off of the field on third downs. They tackled poorly and lost to a great team on the road. All in all you have to be happy with thier season and the outlook for the future.


piacere - 1/8/2012 at 02:56 PM

quote:
Psst..

Yo. Mark.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ogV751kbRo8

Hope this helps


see ya next week, brother.


leafsfan - 1/8/2012 at 04:35 PM

When do the Cowgirls play this weekend????


geordielad - 1/8/2012 at 06:14 PM

Ex Lions Linebacker Zack Follett is on the TV studio team here in the UK and the anchor guy just asked him if he'd ever been to the Superbowl. No says Follett, I used to sell my tickets for big bucks!!!! Whaaat? A player boasting about scalping tickets. Now I know the Lions have never been to the Superbowl so I'm assuming that players from all teams must get a couple of tickets for the game as they do over here for our F.A. Cup Final.
Would that be acceptable over there then? He seemed so blase about it. Players do the same over here of course but it's done on the quiet and they get hammered when caught which happens frequently.
The silence from the other presenters which greeted his statement was deafening


DougMacKenzie - 1/8/2012 at 07:16 PM

quote:
When do the Cowgirls play this weekend????

You'd have to check with Romo. I believe he is coordinating tee times.


BIGV - 1/8/2012 at 08:57 PM

quote:
What killed them is dropping two sure interceptions and not being able to get their defense off of the field on third downs


It sure looked that way to me....



WharfRat - 1/8/2012 at 09:02 PM

quote:
quote:
Psst..

Yo. Mark.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ogV751kbRo8

Hope this helps


see ya next week, brother.




Deal


DougMacKenzie - 1/8/2012 at 09:02 PM

If the Giants aren't on fird now, they're at least starting to smoulder. A very dangerous team at this stage, IMHO.


pops42 - 1/8/2012 at 09:26 PM

Id say the Giants WILL WIN at green bay next week.


BIGV - 1/8/2012 at 09:56 PM

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Id say the Giants WILL WIN at green bay next week.


That would be Christmas in January for this fan.


leafsfan - 1/8/2012 at 10:51 PM

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Id say the Giants WILL WIN at green bay next week.


Should be a cakewalk. NOT!!!!! Go Packers!!!!


DougMacKenzie - 1/8/2012 at 11:07 PM

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Psst..

Yo. Mark.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ogV751kbRo8

Hope this helps


see ya next week, brother.




Deal

Not so fast girls. I hope ratboy and DanB are okay.


spacemonkey - 1/9/2012 at 12:05 AM

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So, the Giants are on fire?....Their "run" consists of Dallas (8-8) and the Jets, who also finished at .500, I'll take Micheal Turner & co. +3




how did that work out?

The Giant defense is playing very well right now.

The packers should remember the giants lost a close game to the Patriots at the end of the regular season and returned the favor in the playoffs on the superbowl run.

Go Giants.!


dougrhon - 1/9/2012 at 12:51 AM

The Giants are suddenly looking very strong right now. I would not want to play them at this time.


pops42 - 1/9/2012 at 01:02 AM

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Id say the Giants WILL WIN at green bay next week.


That would be Christmas in January for this fan.

are you now a GIANT fan BIG V?


DougMacKenzie - 1/9/2012 at 01:11 AM

Wharfy? DanB? You guys gonna make it?


emr - 1/9/2012 at 01:20 AM

Have to admit it (and I am a fan) but while the Giants s**ked all year they are good and getting better. Not just for this year but for the future.

And who would have thunk; Tebow averages 30yds per completion.

Quite the day in the NFL


spacemonkey - 1/9/2012 at 01:21 AM

The steelers lost the game in the first half when an immobile QB was ineffective and turned the ball over.

He never should have played against Cleveland when he re-aggravated it. Dumb and dumber decisions on that one.

That let Tebow make enough plays to win it.

Let's see how Tebow does on the road against the Patriots and Brady.


fensranger - 1/9/2012 at 01:37 AM

Steelers D lost that game all the way. Ben held his own and Redmond played very well. Tebow looked like Tom Brady out there. Ike Taylor had a rough game to say the least. I was really shocked at that game!!!


DanB - 1/9/2012 at 01:57 AM

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Steelers D lost that game all the way. Ben held his own and Redmond played very well. Tebow looked like Tom Brady out there. Ike Taylor had a rough game to say the least. I was really shocked at that game!!!


The defense never changed it up. The same run package all night and left the CB's on an island and Gay and Taylor have always sucked.


DanB - 1/9/2012 at 01:58 AM

you can be "soft" against a running QB and keep them between the 20's


WharfRat - 1/9/2012 at 02:06 AM

So...

I see pitchers and catchers report in 5 weeks


DanB - 1/9/2012 at 02:12 AM

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So...

I see pitchers and catchers report in 5 weeks


yes it's time for the baseball thread


DougMacKenzie - 1/9/2012 at 02:14 AM

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So...

I see pitchers and catchers report in 5 weeks


yes it's time for the baseball thread

Not for Tebow or the Broncos!


BIGV - 1/9/2012 at 03:36 AM

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Id say the Giants WILL WIN at green bay next week.


That would be Christmas in January for this fan.

are you now a GIANT fan BIG V?


Hell no. I live in San Diego and bleed Black & Gold. If the Saints can beat S.F. and the Giants can take G.B. the NFC Championship game would be in the dome.

Go Giants!


IPowrie - 1/9/2012 at 04:45 AM

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What killed them is dropping two sure interceptions and not being able to get their defense off of the field on third downs


It sure looked that way to me....





That and not capitalizing on the two turnovers they did get.


Bhawk - 1/9/2012 at 01:40 PM

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The BRONCOS?


Really?


The Steelers are going to lay down a serious a$$-kicking on the donkeys. It might not be reflected on the scoreboard at the end, but the Steeler defense is going to eat Tebow alive.


I couldn't have been more wrong here!

I know that the Pittsburgh DC is a HOF level guy, but the secondary was in the wrong spot all day. Didn't back the safeties up enough. Stupid mistake against anybody.

I still hate the Broncos.

I'm forced to root for the Pa...the Pa...the Pat...

I can't say it.


gondicar - 1/9/2012 at 01:51 PM

Man, what an ugly game in Denver last night. Kinda shocked that the Broncos won, but then again Ben was clearly not himself and the Steelers were pretty banged up. Can't wait for the Pats to douse the Tebowmania flames yet again.

This has to be one of the most unusual QB stat lines I've seen in a while:

T. Tebow passing: 10/21, 316 yds, 15.0 avg/attpt, 31.6 avg/completion, 2 TD, 0 INT, 125.6 rating

Of course he also had a rushing line as well:

T. Tebow rushing: 10 rushes, 50 yds, 5.0 avg, 1 TD, 11 long

He doesn't look pretty doing it (that throwing motion is painful to watch), but he just beat the league's #1 defense in the playoffs...go figure.

Ironically, the Pats had just re-hired Josh McDaniels a day or two earlier to be a "special offensive assistant" for the rest of this season (to pick up the slack for Bill O'Brien who will obviously have his attention somewhat divided after accepting the Penn State job) and will step back into his old offensive coordinator job next season. McDaniels may be the most hated coach in Denver history (or so I heard), but he did draft both ends of last night's overtime throw and catch (Tebow and Demaryius Thomas) and I'm sure will add value to the Pats prep this week.







[Edited on 1/9/2012 by gondicar]


piacere - 1/9/2012 at 02:21 PM

well. alrighty then.

welcome Broncos. enjoy the seafood and Italian cuisine.

it'll be the best part of your visit.


Brendan - 1/9/2012 at 05:13 PM

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well. alrighty then.

welcome Broncos. enjoy the seafood and Italian cuisine.

it'll be the best part of your visit.
Yeah, heard a lot of very similar rhetoric out of Pittsburgh fans all week. Didn't work out so well...

Like him or not, he picked apart THE #1 DEFENSE in the NFL. The Pats defense???

If the Broncs can hang 25 or 30 on the Pats, they should be right in it. I doubt they'll be able to totally stop Brady and that offense, but their defense is pretty good. This is not a fait acompli for the Pats by any means.


Bhawk - 1/9/2012 at 05:16 PM

Romeo Crennel is the new head coach of the Kansas City Chiefs.

Alrighty then.


Bhawk - 1/9/2012 at 05:20 PM

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Like him or not, he picked apart THE #1 DEFENSE in the NFL.


The box score in that game is just nutty. Tebow had nearly 200 yards passing in the 2nd quarter, around 20 in the 1st, 3rd and 4th combined, then the huge play in OT.


spacemonkey - 1/9/2012 at 05:22 PM

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He doesn't look pretty doing it (that throwing motion is painful to watch),


The way he picks his back leg up on release looks like a girl throwing.


Brendan - 1/9/2012 at 05:25 PM

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Romeo Crennel is the new head coach of the Kansas City Chiefs.

Alrighty then.
Umm, yay?


Bhawk - 1/9/2012 at 05:30 PM

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Romeo Crennel is the new head coach of the Kansas City Chiefs.

Alrighty then.
Umm, yay?


Pretty anticlimactic, really. The defense was really good the second part of the season. The players love him. We'll see what happens next year when everyone is healthy.


Bhawk - 1/9/2012 at 05:31 PM

One thing that I can't help but notice is that Tebow is getting 1000% of the credit, which is, of course, how it goes. Thing is, the Denver defense has had an incredible season and they were a huge reason the Broncos won enough games to back into the playoffs in the first place.


piacere - 1/9/2012 at 05:46 PM

Tebow, shmebow.

They're gonna get their lunches handed to 'em.


Brendan - 1/9/2012 at 05:54 PM

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One thing that I can't help but notice is that Tebow is getting 1000% of the credit, which is, of course, how it goes. Thing is, the Denver defense has had an incredible season and they were a huge reason the Broncos won enough games to back into the playoffs in the first place.
No doubt. Their D is the real deal.


quote:
Tebow, shmebow.

They're gonna get their lunches handed to 'em.

Call Wharfie and ask him about that...


Sang - 1/9/2012 at 05:54 PM

Will it include the seafood and the Italian cuisine?


IPowrie - 1/9/2012 at 08:15 PM

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Romeo Crennel is the new head coach of the Kansas City Chiefs.

Alrighty then.
Umm, yay?


Pretty anticlimactic, really. The defense was really good the second part of the season. The players love him. We'll see what happens next year when everyone is healthy.


What it will come down to is if he is able to get the right people to be on his staff


WharfRat - 1/10/2012 at 01:19 AM

Shoot me


Sang - 1/10/2012 at 04:00 AM

Stole this from Facebook..................

Tebow is about to become the most famous Bronco since OJ's White Truck.................


DougMacKenzie - 1/10/2012 at 02:21 PM

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Shoot me

LOL!


DougMacKenzie - 1/10/2012 at 02:22 PM

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Tebow, shmebow.

They're gonna get their lunches handed to 'em.

Don't count your rings before the game. Anybody remember 18-1?


piacere - 1/10/2012 at 02:42 PM

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One thing that I can't help but notice is that Tebow is getting 1000% of the credit, which is, of course, how it goes. Thing is, the Denver defense has had an incredible season and they were a huge reason the Broncos won enough games to back into the playoffs in the first place.
No doubt. Their D is the real deal.


quote:
Tebow, shmebow.

They're gonna get their lunches handed to 'em.

Call Wharfie and ask him about that...


Pittsburg played a lousy game with a lousy plan and a beat up team. What do you expect the Patriots and their fans to do? Tip toe through the Tebow? Not gonna happen. We're bringin' it. These comparisons to the Giants playing us close then beating us in the super bowl are ridiculous. This'll be easy.


piacere - 1/10/2012 at 02:43 PM

...and Sang and MacKenzie are besmirchers of the highest order.

bedouins.


Bhawk - 1/10/2012 at 02:44 PM

If Marion Barber doesn't run out of bounds then we wouldn't be having any of this Tebow business...


Bhawk - 1/10/2012 at 02:45 PM

I think I saw where 8-8 teams that have made the playoffs and win the first game have either never or only once won the second game.


piacere - 1/10/2012 at 02:46 PM

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If Marion Barber doesn't run out of bounds then we wouldn't be having any of this Tebow business...


no problem. It ends Saturday night.


Brendan - 1/10/2012 at 03:21 PM

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What do you expect the Patriots and their fans to do?
How 'bout fvck off? That would do it for me.

Present company excluded of course...


WharfRat - 1/10/2012 at 05:56 PM

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What do you expect the Patriots and their fans to do?
How 'bout fvck off? That would do it for me.

Present company excluded of course...



fensranger - 1/10/2012 at 06:55 PM

lets talk about a couple of better games. Thoughts on Houston/Ravens??? I think Houston could surprise in this game. The Ravens defense has looked old lately and I think if Andre Johnson grabs a few passes, Foster and Tate will make some plays on the ground.

I think this will be a very close game and could go either way.

I like the Packers to win a good game but cover the spread. I think Green Bay will not overlook the Giants and i think the Giants are a bit too cocky at this point and will come down to earth a bit.

I also think SF will keep it close with the Saints who are not a great road team and have a lousy defense.

Thoughts???


piacere - 1/10/2012 at 07:34 PM

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What do you expect the Patriots and their fans to do?
How 'bout fvck off? That would do it for me.

Present company excluded of course...


yeah, well, I guess you're just going to have to deal with it for a while.

I understand how it feels to root for a team that stinks.

Hang in there, it can only get better.


Alwar - 1/10/2012 at 08:20 PM



New England will choke somewhere along the way - that's what they do best.


spacemonkey - 1/10/2012 at 10:09 PM

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One thing that I can't help but notice is that Tebow is getting 1000% of the credit, which is, of course, how it goes. Thing is, the Denver defense has had an incredible season and they were a huge reason the Broncos won enough games to back into the playoffs in the first place.
No doubt. Their D is the real deal.


quote:
Tebow, shmebow.

They're gonna get their lunches handed to 'em.

Call Wharfie and ask him about that...


Pittsburg played a lousy game with a lousy plan and a beat up team. What do you expect the Patriots and their fans to do? Tip toe through the Tebow? Not gonna happen. We're bringin' it. These comparisons to the Giants playing us close then beating us in the super bowl are ridiculous. This'll be easy.


All Pro Harrison broke outside contain on Tebow repeatedly.


BIGV - 1/10/2012 at 10:31 PM

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lets talk about a couple of better games. Thoughts on Houston/Ravens??? I think Houston could surprise in this game. The Ravens defense has looked old lately and I think if Andre Johnson grabs a few passes, Foster and Tate will make some plays on the ground.

I think this will be a very close game and could go either way.


Agreed. Although Baltimore will not be a friendly place for the Texans and their Rookie QB. Joe Flaco does not impress.

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I like the Packers to win a good game but cover the spread. I think Green Bay will not overlook the Giants and i think the Giants are a bit too cocky at this point and will come down to earth a bit.


Agree. Although just a few weeks ago, the Giants played the Pack down to the wire...But, the Pack is at home and have had plenty of time to prepare.

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I also think SF will keep it close with the Saints who are not a great road team and have a lousy defense.


Saints were 5-3 on the road this year, the 49ers were 6-2 on the road. "Lousy" defenses have a funny way of shutting down "mediocre" offenses. I believe only an extremely windy day in S.F. will stop Brees and Co.


piacere - 1/11/2012 at 03:18 PM

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New England will choke somewhere along the way - that's what they do best.



8 teams left and we're one of 'em.

we got a shot. I think there are better teams still standing, with better all around teams. Giants, SF, Baltimore. GB and NO I think are better teams too in that their offenses are better than ours but their D's are just as suspect, so a shoot out is possible with them. Houston, Denver...I think they can be beat.
I really don't think we're going to make it but it's nice that the season is still alive...


spacemonkey - 1/11/2012 at 04:56 PM

I think some of you are underestimating how well the giants D is Playing now that they are healthy.
Although stopping Rodgers is bit different that stopping Ryan. He gets rid of the ball so damn quickly.

Except for one or two players this is the same D that shut down Brady in the Superbowl.
JPP in for Strahan

take that under advisement.



Bhawk - 1/11/2012 at 05:06 PM

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I think some of you are underestimating how well the giants D is Playing now that they are healthy.
Although stopping Rodgers is bit different that stopping Ryan. He gets rid of the ball so damn quickly.

Except for one or two players this is the same D that shut down Brady in the Superbowl.
JPP in for Strahan

take that under advisement.





The Chiefs (Romeo Crennel, actually) showed the NFL how to stop the Packers offense. Jam the receivers at the line, bump and run every play. Rodgers does release so quickly, so disrupt the timing.

The Giants D is more than capable of taking it to the Packers O physically, punch 'em in the mouth.

Winning in Lambeau is hard, but the Packers are vulnerable. You can run for miles on them. The Christmas game, the Bears ran all over them.


spacemonkey - 1/11/2012 at 05:21 PM

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I think some of you are underestimating how well the giants D is Playing now that they are healthy.
Although stopping Rodgers is bit different that stopping Ryan. He gets rid of the ball so damn quickly.

Except for one or two players this is the same D that shut down Brady in the Superbowl.
JPP in for Strahan

take that under advisement.





The Chiefs (Romeo Crennel, actually) showed the NFL how to stop the Packers offense. Jam the receivers at the line, bump and run every play. Rodgers does release so quickly, so disrupt the timing.

The Giants D is more than capable of taking it to the Packers O physically, punch 'em in the mouth.

Winning in Lambeau is hard, but the Packers are vulnerable. You can run for miles on them. The Christmas game, the Bears ran all over them.


Running the ball is the key to beating the Packers. Keep Rogers on the bench, he can't score from there. Like OJ Anderson against Jim Kelly and the Bills. And that Giant D was very physical with the Bills receivers. Harder to do with today's rules. The Bills receivers were looking for the hit and not watching the ball in the second half of that Superbowl.

Smash Mouth football.


fensranger - 1/11/2012 at 05:43 PM

Giants are not a great running team and will need to throw in this game IMO. They have a solid defensive front but Green Bay will torch their secondary all day long. Giants are playing well but lets face it they pounded the Falcons and beat Dallas in a close one. They stopped a pathetic Jets team.

I think GB wins this one and covers spread. I also am afraid Giants are a bit too confident and GB will be focused and ready to play this game. Rogers is just too darn good!!!


spacemonkey - 1/11/2012 at 06:19 PM

Being at Home always helps. More so in the Playoffs, All the home times won in the first round.


BIGV - 1/11/2012 at 08:19 PM

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All Pro Harrison broke outside contain on Tebow repeatedly.


How frustrating it was to watch Mr. Nasty..., bite on the same move, allowing Tebow to throw while running to his strong side, play after play after play.

C'mon man!


DanB - 1/12/2012 at 01:53 AM

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All Pro Harrison broke outside contain on Tebow repeatedly.


How frustrating it was to watch Mr. Nasty..., bite on the same move, allowing Tebow to throw while running to his strong side, play after play after play.

C'mon man!


it was like watching a waterhead play fetch


BIGV - 1/12/2012 at 01:51 PM

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New England will choke somewhere along the way - that's what they do best.



8 teams left and we're one of 'em.

we got a shot. I think there are better teams still standing, with better all around teams. Giants, SF, Baltimore. GB and NO I think are better teams too in that their offenses are better than ours but their D's are just as suspect, so a shoot out is possible with them. Houston, Denver...I think they can be beat.
I really don't think we're going to make it but it's nice that the season is still alive...


WharfRat - 1/12/2012 at 02:05 PM

Probably the kiss of death but....

Giants( if they play D like they did against ATL, they win)
Saints ( Brees = unstoppable machine at this point)

Patriots ( fvck Tebow)
Texans ( just cant pull for Baltimore in ANY circumstance)..Bastards


BIGV - 1/12/2012 at 02:06 PM

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New England will choke somewhere along the way - that's what they do best.



8 teams left and we're one of 'em. we got a shot.


Looks like things are changing in the NFL...Offense appears to rule the roost these days......Quick strike Offenses can travel the length of the field after a Kickoff return in 4 or 5 plays...and eat up only a few minutes, putting their defenses, right back on the turf......making a good defense, tire that much faster. The timing of these "quick strike teams" is so good, so precise....I mean, remember how Rogers literally dissected the Giants' defense at the end of their last meeting?... Really Good Defenses can really frustrate and slow down mediocre offenses....but, Imho... in today's game, with today's (pass interference) rules, I'll take the Really good Offense most of the time, especially when they are at home.

So yes, I agree.....you have a shot.


Brendan - 1/12/2012 at 02:07 PM

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( fvck Tebow)

Bitter much?


WharfRat - 1/12/2012 at 02:16 PM

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( fvck Tebow)

Bitter much?


Ya think

Going to be REAL hard to root for the Patsies but..


Brendan - 1/12/2012 at 02:24 PM

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quote:
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( fvck Tebow)

Bitter much?


Ya think

Going to be REAL hard to root for the Patsies but..
You need to accept our lord and savior, Tim Tebow, into your heart.


piacere - 1/12/2012 at 03:09 PM

how's things from the cheap seats?

I told you wandering dust-laden camel humpers to enlighten yourselves and look to the northeast but nooooooooooooooooooo, you had to be defiant.

fine. sit........ and watch how it's done.

wannabes.


Bhawk - 1/12/2012 at 03:36 PM

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Giants are not a great running team and will need to throw in this game IMO. They have a solid defensive front but Green Bay will torch their secondary all day long.


3 weeks ago, Khalil Bell (who?) rushed for 139 yds in Lambeau. Play bump and run on GB and put pressure on Rodgers. They aren't invincible.

Detroit got into a shootout with GB and got burnt doing it.

O/U on the GB-NYG game is 52.5. Hmmm. What do the bookies know?


piacere - 1/12/2012 at 04:16 PM

some pretty football smart people here. Me? Casual observer. If we know these things, and everyone here has made good and valid points, then don't the coaching staffs? Giants right now, to me anyway, are the team to beat. I'd expect, to avoid getting jammed up, the Packers (and Patriots) put a guy in motion, bunch three receivers, no huddle with certain personnel matchups they like, etc.

still, given all that, it'll boil down to turnovers and who just plays better.

Giants D line...man, they're a tough bunch.


Bhawk - 1/12/2012 at 04:30 PM

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If we know these things, and everyone here has made good and valid points, then don't the coaching staffs?


Well, yeah. Players still gotta go out and play. To me this weekend, Houston-Baltimore is a crapshoot, the Saints playoff experience will enable a win, the Patriots will end this Tebow silliness in a big way, and the Packers are hard to pick against at Lambeau no matter who they are playing.

But, I'm just another Joe Schmo, so what so I know? That's why they play 'em!


BIGV - 1/12/2012 at 08:05 PM

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But, I'm just another Joe Schmo, so what do I know?


As much about pro football as anyone here....


IPowrie - 1/12/2012 at 08:24 PM

49ers, Giants, Broncos, Texans are who I want to win


emr - 1/12/2012 at 08:37 PM

I think a big factor in the Giant-packer game will be Ross' concussion. Aaron will tear apart "the Prince" if he has to fill in. Ross got hit so hard he was ready to Tebow last week

[Edited on 1/12/2012 by emr]


BIGV - 1/12/2012 at 08:49 PM

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49ers, Giants, Broncos, Texans are who I want to win


Pull for the underdogs much?


Lee - 1/13/2012 at 01:17 AM

I can't wait until the Pats destroy Colorodo and their GQ sweetie boy.


spacemonkey - 1/13/2012 at 01:20 AM

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I can't wait until the Pats destroy Colorodo and their GQ sweetie boy.


he is sweet because he has a candy arm


Lee - 1/13/2012 at 01:26 AM

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I can't wait until the Pats destroy Colorodo and their GQ sweetie boy.


he is sweet because he has a candy arm




Fifteen minutes of fame.


brofan - 1/13/2012 at 01:31 AM

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I think some of you are underestimating how well the giants D is Playing now that they are healthy.
Although stopping Rodgers is bit different that stopping Ryan. He gets rid of the ball so damn quickly.

Except for one or two players this is the same D that shut down Brady in the Superbowl.
JPP in for Strahan

take that under advisement.





The Chiefs (Romeo Crennel, actually) showed the NFL how to stop the Packers offense. Jam the receivers at the line, bump and run every play. Rodgers does release so quickly, so disrupt the timing.

The Giants D is more than capable of taking it to the Packers O physically, punch 'em in the mouth.

Winning in Lambeau is hard, but the Packers are vulnerable. You can run for miles on them. The Christmas game, the Bears ran all over them.


You also HAVE to have a pass rush. If Rodgers has any time at all to throw, he will kill you. He is the most accurate passer in the NFL, possibly ever. And as a Bears fan, it KILLS me to say that.

BUT, as I said a few months ago, if you can knock him down, he can get rattled and when he does, his accuracy suffers.


brofan - 1/13/2012 at 01:38 AM

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Giants are not a great running team and will need to throw in this game IMO. They have a solid defensive front but Green Bay will torch their secondary all day long.


3 weeks ago, Khalil Bell (who?) rushed for 139 yds in Lambeau. Play bump and run on GB and put pressure on Rodgers. They aren't invincible.

Detroit got into a shootout with GB and got burnt doing it.

O/U on the GB-NYG game is 52.5. Hmmm. What do the bookies know?


Rodgers also threw for 5 TDs. Bears had no pass rush at all, even WITH Peppers, which proves my point.

You can run on the Pack all day, but if you can't force Rodgers out of the pocket and out of his comfort zone, he will beat you. And right now Jordy Nelson is almost impossible to cover. He is playing as well as any receiver in the league.


brofan - 1/13/2012 at 01:41 AM

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I can't wait until the Pats destroy Colorodo and their GQ sweetie boy.


I thought Stafford played for the Lions.


Lee - 1/13/2012 at 01:48 AM

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I can't wait until the Pats destroy Colorodo and their GQ sweetie boy.


I thought Stafford played for the Lions.


Can you say Hanie?


brofan - 1/13/2012 at 03:51 AM

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I can't wait until the Pats destroy Colorodo and their GQ sweetie boy.


I thought Stafford played for the Lions.


Can you say Hanie?


Painfully. VERY painfully.

And I blame the Bears' "Brain Trust" (sarcasm) more for that pathetic fiasco than I do Hanie.

FOUR YEARS and FOUR CONSECUTIVE LOSSES (ending the Bears playoff chances) to FINALLY FIGURE OUT THAT LOSER SHOULD NEVER HAVE SET FOOT ON AN NFL GRIDIRON? Jesus Effing Christ. You couldn't make that sh!t up.

And btw Lee, I haven't forgotten you won (and I lost) our bet. You WILL be paid - just can't exactly when yet.....


DougMacKenzie - 1/13/2012 at 12:02 PM

The Cowboys replaced some assistant coaches this week.....I'm sure that will help.

I can't wait for the games this weekend. I want to see if defense even matters any more. If it does, there could be some big surprises.


fensranger - 1/13/2012 at 02:33 PM

looking forward to games this weekend. great matchups on paper exceptfor new england who should romp. Not sure why everyone is so against tebow? he played a great game last week and is a tough kid. if guys like sanchez and rivers had his guts they would still be playing.


piacere - 1/13/2012 at 02:38 PM

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looking forward to games this weekend. great matchups on paper exceptfor new england who should romp. Not sure why everyone is so against tebow? he played a great game last week and is a tough kid. if guys like sanchez and rivers had his guts they would still be playing.


I love the dude (Tebow). I thank him for boldly witnessing and proclaiming the name of Christ. But Tim, not tomorrow brother...


Brendan - 1/13/2012 at 09:30 PM

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looking forward to games this weekend. great matchups on paper exceptfor new england who should romp. Not sure why everyone is so against tebow? he played a great game last week and is a tough kid. if guys like sanchez and rivers had his guts they would still be playing.


I love the dude (Tebow). I thank him for boldly witnessing and proclaiming the name of Christ. But Tim, not tomorrow brother...
There's still time to repent and change your evil ways. Tim is not a vengeful man...but don't wait too long.


spacemonkey - 1/13/2012 at 11:14 PM

God doesn't care who wins football games, no matter how pious the QB may be.


leafsfan - 1/14/2012 at 06:10 AM

Who you got??

GB
NO
NE
Balt for me.


Brendan - 1/14/2012 at 01:36 PM

quote:
God doesn't care who wins football games, no matter how pious the QB may be.
It was joke. See what I did there? I said Tim, not God...

God might care about football is he has money on it...


Brendan - 1/14/2012 at 02:04 PM

Speaking of which, money line on Denver is +550. I like that bet.


cubchubby - 1/14/2012 at 02:36 PM

I heard the guy who owns http://predictionmachine.com/ on the radio yesterday and they like every dog to at least cover. They play every game 50,000 times on a simulator. Last year they went 11 - 0 in the playoffs against the spread.


piacere - 1/14/2012 at 04:43 PM

quote:
Who you got??

GB
NO
NE
Balt for me.


I'd like the Giants in a rematch but GB is tough at home.
SF.
Den...oops, no, NE
Balt.


DougMacKenzie - 1/14/2012 at 05:01 PM

Oh, why not? What have I got to lose.

Giants
SF
Broncos
Texans

In case you haven't seen this, it's hilarious:
Hitler finds out Steelers lost to Broncos
http://www.sportsmashup.com/2012/01/hitler-is-not-happy-about-tim-tebow.htm l


spacemonkey - 1/14/2012 at 05:03 PM

I like the Saints and the Pats,

wouldn't touch the other games. I follow Dr. Hunter S Thompson's betting advice and never lay
money on a team you have an emotional attachment with. Clouds your Judgement. so that
leaves the Giants/Pack game out. Baltimore should cover, but Flacco worries me too much to lay
money on them.

Go Saints, Go Patriots.
Daddy needs tier one (patented) medications!

GO GIANTS - smash mouth time !




gotdrumz - 1/14/2012 at 05:04 PM

quote:
Oh, why not? What have I got to lose.

Giants
SF
Broncos
Texans

In case you haven't seen this, it's hilarious:
Hitler finds out Steelers lost to Broncos
http://www.sportsmashup.com/2012/01/hitler-is-not-happy-about-tim-tebow.htm l


Intersting picks and IMHO, those would be nice......get some newwer blood up top for a change.


spacemonkey - 1/14/2012 at 05:20 PM

quote:
looking forward to games this weekend. great matchups on paper exceptfor new england who should romp. Not sure why everyone is so against tebow? he played a great game last week and is a tough kid. if guys like sanchez and rivers had his guts they would still be playing.


nothing against Tebow, I think he is playing out of position. He should play H-back/Tight end.

I feel you need a QB that can but some zip on the ball and get it out of his hands quickly with todays
pass happy rules against the defense ever actually hitting someone.

Tebow takes forever to wind up and forever to get rid of it.
He lifts his back leg like a girl when he releases it. If he keeps doing that he'll get it broken when
someone runs into him. And he doesn't have a big arm to stretch the defense.
He is picking up on little things like looking off the safety, Elway has been on his case to be more
decided and aggressive with his throws and he can help coach Tebow with that and his mechanics.
But he will never have that big arm needed for todays game IMO.

Use him like Washington uses Cooley. Get Tebow the ball in space in the secondary and he can
run over most cornerbacks in this league.

Nothing personal against the guy, it is just an football opinion.

some folks get turned off by his wearing his faith on his collar, not me. God Bless Him.


piacere - 1/14/2012 at 05:23 PM

nice post, wott.

I agree with all of it.

yo, MacKenzie. You bang your head last night? Denver???


DougMacKenzie - 1/14/2012 at 05:28 PM

No. I'm just another bitter, angry, resentful Cowboys fan. I hope you all lose.


piacere - 1/14/2012 at 05:44 PM

quote:
No. I'm just another bitter, angry, resentful Cowboys fan. I hope you all lose.


DUG. DUG, DUG, DUG. I implored you, nay, begged, for you to enter into the light of redemption and glory, the promised land...but no, you, in your obstinate reluctance failed to walk the path of gridiron righteousness to the throne of greatness and now you bemoan your folly.

there is time, mere hours, to repent of your dust-laden futility and allow the light of might to shine upon your beleaguredness...

PATRIOTS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


leafsfan - 1/14/2012 at 05:57 PM

I hate to say it but in the work bracket pool I took Denver. I know DENVER!!???!!!

New England D ain't the best. Tebow gains confidence every week. Oh and I am not a big fan of the hoodie.


piacere - 1/14/2012 at 06:04 PM

NE's D is 31st in yards allowed. (They're on the field a lot after Brady scores in 3 minutes)

15th in POINTS allowed. Not too bad.


pops42 - 1/14/2012 at 10:42 PM

brees is on his knees!


jehmutt - 1/15/2012 at 01:52 AM

That catch by Vernon Davis sure reminds me of the catch Terrell Owens made against the Packers years ago. Right down to the hit he took after catching the ball.


pops42 - 1/15/2012 at 03:07 AM

brotha tebow ought to pray for a fistfull of vicodin.


WharfRat - 1/15/2012 at 03:11 AM

Not happy with the outcome, but that Saints/ Niners game could be one of the best I have ever seen.


gotdrumz - 1/15/2012 at 05:14 AM

quote:
Not happy with the outcome, but that Saints/ Niners game could be one of the best I have ever seen.


yeppers


goldtop - 1/15/2012 at 06:32 AM

quote:
Not happy with the outcome, but that Saints/ Niners game could be one of the best I have ever seen.


It was a thing of beauty......

I'm jut taking it as it comes and happy the 49ers are competitive for the first time in years


gondicar - 1/15/2012 at 12:26 PM

Get Gronked!


piacere - 1/15/2012 at 03:15 PM

Gronk's a beast.


emr - 1/15/2012 at 04:11 PM

quote:
Gronk's a beast.




When I see Gronk I always think of this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0pssDR0ERnw&feature=related


spacemonkey - 1/15/2012 at 10:29 PM

Giants getting hosed. that was a strip. Originally ruled a strip, Over ruled on the field, Replay shows a strip Official says no.

How much did he bet on the Packers?

[Edited on 1/15/2012 by spacemonkey]


spacemonkey - 1/16/2012 at 12:32 AM

another bs flag by this ref betting on the packers. BLow to the head?, Osi hit him in the ribs!

fire this ref

[Edited on 1/16/2012 by spacemonkey]


spacemonkey - 1/16/2012 at 12:58 AM

Defense still matters!


Any doubters that the giants D is back?

Kenny Phillips and Osi both made huge plays in forcing fumbles had been out the line-up with injuries.


brofan - 1/16/2012 at 01:01 AM

What a beautiful thing, watching the Giants THOROUGHLY outplay the Packer from the starting gun, for two main reasons:

1) It finally SHUTS UP Packer fans, THE most arrogant and obnoxious sports fans on the planet - not to mention the most pathetic, as they will now go into a state of depression and mourning for the next 9 months and fly the state (and probably) American Flag at half-mast and drink voluminous quantities of alcohol, all because they literally have nothing else in their sad, pathetic lives - the Packers have been overrated the entire season and today the Giants exposed them for the sham that they are;

2) It will also SHUT UP all those football "experts" why say that " the NFL is an offensive passing league and defense is irrelevant, doesn't matter anymore." What complete and utter BS. Gee, how did the Pack's offense do against the Giant's defense today? And how did the Giants O do against the Pack's SIEVE of a defense? I rest my case.

So many people just repeat the feces that they listen to on sports talk radio without ACTUALLY WATCHING THE GAMES and then think they qualify as "experts."

All I know is, YOU WIN WITH DEFENSE. Just ask Bill Belichik.

And that's also why the Pack would have lost to SF anyway even if they HAD won.

I'm happier over this Green Bay loss than I was over any Bears win this year.

THANK YOU NEW YORK GIANTS!




hastings - 1/16/2012 at 01:15 AM

GIANTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!


hastings - 1/16/2012 at 01:24 AM

quote:
What a beautiful thing, watching the Giants THOROUGHLY outplay the Packer from the starting gun, for two main reasons:

1) It finally SHUTS UP Packer fans, THE most arrogant and obnoxious sports fans on the planet - not to mention the most pathetic, as they will now go into a state of depression and mourning for the next 9 months and fly the state (and probably) American Flag at half-mast and drink voluminous quantities of alcohol, all because they literally have nothing else in their sad, pathetic lives - the Packers have been overrated the entire season and today the Giants exposed them for the sham that they are;

2) It will also SHUT UP all those football "experts" why say that " the NFL is an offensive passing league and defense is irrelevant, doesn't matter anymore." What complete and utter BS. Gee, how did the Pack's offense do against the Giant's defense today? And how did the Giants O do against the Pack's SIEVE of a defense? I rest my case.

So many people just repeat the feces that they listen to on sports talk radio without ACTUALLY WATCHING THE GAMES and then think they qualify as "experts."

All I know is, YOU WIN WITH DEFENSE. Just ask Bill Belichik.

And that's also why the Pack would have lost to SF anyway even if they HAD won.

I'm happier over this Green Bay loss than I was over any Bears win this year.

THANK YOU NEW YORK GIANTS!






dougrhon - 1/16/2012 at 01:27 AM

Giants! Huge win. Just before the game I heard some experts saying that the Pack defense was not as bad as it seemed because of the need for teams to get a huge amount of yards to catch up. Their D did not look terrible today. I thought this was really an example of the Giants excelling on both ends of the ball. The O line gave Manning a lot of time but Eli made huge plays. The defense was monstrous today, simply monstrous. And were it not for a few truly bizarre calls, the game would not have even been that close. On the fumble that wasn't the packers went on to score a TD and on the phantom blow to the head that wiped out a 4th down situation deep in Packer territory, they ended up with a TD. That's 14 points they should not have even had. The Giants basically crushed them.


brofan - 1/16/2012 at 01:51 AM

quote:
Giants! Huge win. Just before the game I heard some experts saying that the Pack defense was not as bad as it seemed because of the need for teams to get a huge amount of yards to catch up. Their D did not look terrible today. I thought this was really an example of the Giants excelling on both ends of the ball. The O line gave Manning a lot of time but Eli made huge plays. The defense was monstrous today, simply monstrous. And were it not for a few truly bizarre calls, the game would not have even been that close. On the fumble that wasn't the packers went on to score a TD and on the phantom blow to the head that wiped out a 4th down situation deep in Packer territory, they ended up with a TD. That's 14 points they should not have even had. The Giants basically crushed them.


See my post re: "experts"....


leafsfan - 1/16/2012 at 01:57 AM

quote:
What a beautiful thing, watching the Giants THOROUGHLY outplay the Packer from the starting gun, for two main reasons:

1) It finally SHUTS UP Packer fans, THE most arrogant and obnoxious sports fans on the planet - not to mention the most pathetic, as they will now go into a state of depression and mourning for the next 9 months and fly the state (and probably) American Flag at half-mast and drink voluminous quantities of alcohol, all because they literally have nothing else in their sad, pathetic lives - the Packers have been overrated the entire season and today the Giants exposed them for the sham that they are;

2) It will also SHUT UP all those football "experts" why say that " the NFL is an offensive passing league and defense is irrelevant, doesn't matter anymore." What complete and utter BS. Gee, how did the Pack's offense do against the Giant's defense today? And how did the Giants O do against the Pack's SIEVE of a defense? I rest my case.

So many people just repeat the feces that they listen to on sports talk radio without ACTUALLY WATCHING THE GAMES and then think they qualify as "experts."

All I know is, YOU WIN WITH DEFENSE. Just ask Bill Belichik.

And that's also why the Pack would have lost to SF anyway even if they HAD won.

I'm happier over this Green Bay loss than I was over any Bears win this year.

THANK YOU NEW YORK GIANTS!



Wow so suprising to hear that coming from a Bears fan. NOT!!!

You forgot to add that on top of the alchohol they will stuff their faces with chedder cheese.

Packers had a bad day. We all have em, especially the Chicago Bears and their Fans.


gotdrumz - 1/16/2012 at 03:07 AM

quote:
another bs flag by this ref betting on the packers. BLow to the head, hit him in the ribs!

fire this ref


yeppers.....surprised the Fox commentators spoke out so blantantly about the call.


gotdrumz - 1/16/2012 at 03:10 AM

Sounds like Rich (brofan) is a we bit insensative towrds Packer fans


pops42 - 1/16/2012 at 04:09 AM

Just Like four years ago, the giants didnt get any respect. see ya in the superbowl.


pops42 - 1/16/2012 at 04:17 AM

quote:
quote:
Id say the Giants WILL WIN at green bay next week.


Should be a cakewalk. NOT!!!!! Go Packers!!!!
come again??.


ScottyVII - 1/16/2012 at 05:29 AM

I am very proud of my New York Giants today. It was tough listening to all the pre-season ramblings about how there were weak with regards to the draft and free-agency. Tack on the injuries and the loss of Steve Smith to the Eagles and Kevin Boss to the Raiders. A long hard fought season and a division championship. I hope that they can continue the run.


Go Giants.


BIGV - 1/16/2012 at 11:12 AM

quote:
Not happy with the outcome, but that Saints/ Niners game could be one of the best I have ever seen.


Agreed on both points. Being a Saints fan and watching that game as intently as I always do.... I have a few Saints players at whose feet I can lay at least some of the blame. But hey, 5 turnovers, including one on the opening drive (at the niner 2 yd. line) is awfully hard to overcome....especially on the road. But they did, twice in the 4th Q...only to let Vernon Davis run wild. Our Defense needs a major overhaul and I'm glad Greg Williams is gone....But what a great game!

Geaux Saints!


DougMacKenzie - 1/16/2012 at 11:35 AM

What a fun wekend of football! The Niners-Saints game was great! I didn't realize how good the Niner defense was, having not seen them much this year. They play very tough, physical football, and are probably the best tackling team I've seen, especially this late in the year. I sure didn't expect them to keep scoring like they did, but it was against the Saints D. The Ravens are still beasts on defense, even though the Texans had some chances. Yates got impatient. The Giants are looking good, and they've got the experience. Five yeas ago I didn't think Eli would be the QB he is today. He is clutch. Tough to pick the winners for next week, but I'll go with the home teams, Niners and Pats. I reserve the right to change my mind up until the end of each game.


Peachypetewi - 1/16/2012 at 12:01 PM

Discount Double Choke. Rodgers now knows how Cutler feels week after week watching his WR's drop balls. I don't find Packer fans anywhere near as egregious as Rich does. I find them no different then Bears fans, there are meatballs in every fan base. Rodgers was acting like a petulant child in the press conference. He should have switched to Allstate to avoid mayhem like the Giants.

[Edited on 1/16/2012 by Peachypetewi]


spacemonkey - 1/16/2012 at 03:15 PM

The Giants still had a hard time running the ball, this was not the case when they won their last Superbowl.
The O-line and Fullback continue to screw up blocking assignments giving the D free shots at the backs in the backfield. This should not still be happening after a full season together. But conversely the pass blocking has been very good.

But Eli is making up for it during this hot streak. His Third down passing efficiency is off the charts during this run. He had three 3rd down conversions of over 10 yards, in a playoff game. That is special.

The Packers D generated no pass rush except with an all out blitz. Rushing three on third down and playing coverage didn't work for the Pack as Eli was patient and picked them apart. The INT was due to the pocket getting shoved into Eli's face and the ball sailed because he couldn't follow through. So I don't put that on Eli.

Nicks and Manningham are healthy now and with Cruz that gives them an receiving core as good as any.
Nicks is physical has size,athleticism and good speed and Manningham and Cruz have great speed.
Nicks TD on the Half time Hail Mary was an example of his size and athleticism. and Bouncing of the
saftey for another TD shows his physicality. Huge Game for Nicks. Gotta love him even if he is a Tar Heel.

The Giants D was huge, 4 take aways. (should have been 5), Rogers was very frustrated all day. The receivers drops and the Giants D pressure had him off his marks.

Next week the 49ers vs. Giants will be a defensive battle , at this point I think they are the 2 best Ds left in the tournament (Sorry Ravens fans)

I think Eli is the difference in this game if he continues to play at this level on third down.

Or will the 49ers D knock him off his game like the Giants D did to Rodgers?

we will see, should be a great game.





gotdrumz - 1/16/2012 at 03:16 PM

quote:
Discount Double Choke. Rodgers now knows how Cutler feels week after week watching his WR's drop balls. I don't find Packer fans anywhere near as egregious as Rich does. I find them no different then Bears fans, there are meatballs in every fan base. Rodgers was acting like a petulant child in the press conference. He should have switched to Allstate to avoid mayhem like the Giants.

[Edited on 1/16/2012 by Peachypetewi]


funy stuff, thanks really needed a laugh this morning


piacere - 1/16/2012 at 03:21 PM

you freakin' guys are blah-blah-blahing me to death.

PATRIOTS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


DuaneFan56 - 1/16/2012 at 03:39 PM







Nuff Said!!!! Go Giants!


dougrhon - 1/16/2012 at 05:00 PM

quote:
The Giants still had a hard time running the ball, this was not the case when they won their last Superbowl.
The O-line and Fullback continue to screw up blocking assignments giving the D free shots at the backs in the backfield. This should not still be happening after a full season together. But conversely the pass blocking has been very good.

But Eli is making up for it during this hot streak. His Third down passing efficiency is off the charts during this run. He had three 3rd down conversions of over 10 yards, in a playoff game. That is special.

The Packers D generated no pass rush except with an all out blitz. Rushing three on third down and playing coverage didn't work for the Pack as Eli was patient and picked them apart. The INT was due to the pocket getting shoved into Eli's face and the ball sailed because he couldn't follow through. So I don't put that on Eli.

Nicks and Manningham are healthy now and with Cruz that gives them an receiving core as good as any.
Nicks is physical has size,athleticism and good speed and Manningham and Cruz have great speed.
Nicks TD on the Half time Hail Mary was an example of his size and athleticism. and Bouncing of the
saftey for another TD shows his physicality. Huge Game for Nicks. Gotta love him even if he is a Tar Heel.

The Giants D was huge, 4 take aways. (should have been 5), Rogers was very frustrated all day. The receivers drops and the Giants D pressure had him off his marks.

Next week the 49ers vs. Giants will be a defensive battle , at this point I think they are the 2 best Ds left in the tournament (Sorry Ravens fans)

I think Eli is the difference in this game if he continues to play at this level on third down.

Or will the 49ers D knock him off his game like the Giants D did to Rodgers?

we will see, should be a great game.







The only part of the game that is not clicking now is the running game. That could come back to bite them but Manning's third down efficiency is a marvel to behold and gives the team confidence. Obviously the revival of the defensive pass coverage and the huge pass rush has made all the difference. I like the Giants chances to go all the way but they still will be underdogs. This is not the team that barely made the playoffs.


spacemonkey - 1/16/2012 at 05:00 PM

quote:
you freakin' guys are blah-blah-blahing me to death.

PATRIOTS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



Thanks for ending Tebow Mania

now just STFU!


piacere - 1/17/2012 at 02:14 PM

quote:
quote:
you freakin' guys are blah-blah-blahing me to death.

PATRIOTS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



Thanks for ending Tebow Mania

now just STFU!


you're welcome. I said it'd be easy, it was. I expect Baltimore will offer up a feeble attempt at stopping the Patriots but I don't see that happening either, much to Tom Jackson's dismay. (Talk about a Patriot hater...)

as for shuttin' my yapper; not yet, brother.

I want the Giants.


piacere - 1/18/2012 at 02:37 PM

the Westin is about 10 minutes from my front door. Do I head down there Friday night and beat the snot out of a few defensive players?

Gotta think about this.

Upside is I'll take out Reed and Lewis, maybe one or two others...

Downside is I won't get a bail bondsman 'til Monday morning and I'll miss the game.

Suggestions?


Brendan - 1/18/2012 at 02:51 PM

quote:
Suggestions?
Stop drinking so early in the morning...



DougMacKenzie - 1/18/2012 at 04:24 PM

quote:
quote:
Suggestions?
Stop drinking so early in the morning...




Man, there's drunk, then there's delusional, then there's psychotic, then there's gina........and then there's piacere.


emr - 1/18/2012 at 09:41 PM

quote:
the Westin is about 10 minutes from my front door. Do I head down there Friday night and beat the snot out of a few defensive players?

Gotta think about this.

Upside is I'll take out Reed and Lewis, maybe one or two others...

Downside is I won't get a bail bondsman 'til Monday morning and I'll miss the game.

Suggestions?


I think I'd bring a Bazooka before going after Ray Lewis.


piacere - 1/19/2012 at 02:40 PM

quote:
quote:
quote:
Suggestions?
Stop drinking so early in the morning...




Man, there's drunk, then there's delusional, then there's psychotic, then there's gina........and then there's piacere.



yeah...but I'm happy.

ok, enough about what it's like to be enlightened. Let's get back to the real issue...

...PATRIOTS !!!!!!!!


Sang - 1/19/2012 at 02:57 PM

quote:
yeah...but I'm happy.

ok, enough about what it's like to be enlightened. Let's get back to the real issue...

...PATRIOTS !!!!!!!!




So was Jack Nicholson after the lobotomy.............

What do you think you are, for Chrissake, crazy or somethin'? Well you're not! You're not! You're no crazier than the average **** out walkin' around on the streets and that's it.......at least you're not a Patriots fan.......


fensranger - 1/19/2012 at 03:51 PM

Patriots would need to play an awful game and have 2 or 3 turnovers to lose this week. Other than that, i cannot see Baltimore winning the game. However, Green Bay managed to somehow self destruct and lose last week which is why they play the games. Giants are playing well but i truly believe if they played Green Bay 5 more times, they would not win a game. Everything Green Bay could do wrong happened-it was amazing the number of drops, the number of fumbles, the dumb coaching decisions and the number of horrible throws by Rogers.

Giants-SF game should be a close great game if both teams bring it and play well. I think 49er offense is a bit underrated and they have a very good defense which will most certainly stop the giants running game. I think this one is too close to call.


gondicar - 1/19/2012 at 04:26 PM

The last game at the old Foxboro Stadium was held 10 years ago today. Known as the Snow Bowl and/or Tuck Rule Game, it ended with one of the most dramatic kicks I have ever seen in my life...a 45-yarder by Adam Vinatieri in a raging blizzard with 27 seconds left (only to be outdone by his Superbowl winning kick a few weeks later with time expiring). Final score Patriots 16, Raiders 13. Can't believe it has been a decade. Ahhh, the memories!







[Edited on 1/19/2012 by gondicar]


piacere - 1/19/2012 at 04:46 PM

Adam was at Warwick Mall a day or two after that kick. They had him up on a stage area with one or two other players. Huge crowd lined up for autographs. Before he went up on stage he was being interviewed off to the side by a local sports guy and I was standing right beside him. 2 feet away. So I waited and when he was done, I said "Hey Adam" and he turned to me, we shook hands and I said, "Great job man, awesome kick". He's a cool guy, regular type dude. Got his autograph. Hangin' under a pic of that kick.


gotdrumz - 1/19/2012 at 04:54 PM

quote:
The last game at the old Foxboro Stadium was held 10 years ago today. Known as the Snow Bowl and/or Tuck Rule Game, it ended with one of the most dramatic kicks I have ever seen in my life...a 45-yarder by Adam Vinatieri in a raging blizzard with 27 seconds left (only to be outdone by his Superbowl winning kick a few weeks later with time expiring). Final score Patriots 16, Raiders 13. Can't believe it has been a decade. Ahhh, the memories!









[Edited on 1/19/2012 by gondicar]



yeah the game with THE worst call in playoff history


Bhawk - 1/19/2012 at 05:01 PM

Brady FUMBLED.


piacere - 1/19/2012 at 05:02 PM

it's been used since then. More than once. (the "tuck" rule)

Every team benefits from lousy calls now 'n' then...

it just seems like it happens for the Patriots a lot because we're in the playoffs EVERY FREAKIN' YEAR.

deal with it.


Bhawk - 1/19/2012 at 05:04 PM

quote:
it's been used since then. More than once. (the "tuck" rule)

Every team benefits from lousy calls now 'n' then...

it just seems like it happens for the Patriots a lot because we're in the playoffs EVERY FREAKIN' YEAR.

deal with it.


"Deal with it." Whatever.

Brady FUMBLED.


piacere - 1/19/2012 at 05:09 PM

yeah. He did.

no do over's.

sorry.

Look, I take my shots. I dish out a few. It's football. It's ultimate trash time.


gotdrumz - 1/19/2012 at 05:12 PM

The Patriots have fileded some great tems, but they have had a lot of help from the powers that be in the NFL.


Bhawk - 1/19/2012 at 05:17 PM

quote:
yeah. He did.

no do over's.

sorry.

Look, I take my shots. I dish out a few. It's football. It's ultimate trash time.




I know all that, it's all in good fun.

That game was the seed of the Patriot dynasty (although, you guys can have this Scott Pioli bozo back if you want him ).

All started on a FUMBLE.



piacere - 1/19/2012 at 05:19 PM

quote:
The Patriots have fileded some great tems, but they have had a lot of help from the powers that be in the NFL.


I've been a fan of the Patriots since '66. We have stunk something awful.

I've had more than my fair share of misery and woe.

I'm diggin' this right to the hilt.

Like I said, everybody benefits from bad calls, Denver beating SD on Hochule's bad call comes to mind. Saying we get help winning 13, 14 games every year is way off.


piacere - 1/19/2012 at 05:22 PM

quote:
quote:
yeah. He did.

no do over's.

sorry.

Look, I take my shots. I dish out a few. It's football. It's ultimate trash time.




I know all that, it's all in good fun.

That game was the seed of the Patriot dynasty (although, you guys can have this Scott Pioli bozo back if you want him ).

All started on a FUMBLE.





there's no such thing as "good fun" now, amigo.

this is war.




and...we around here like to think it all started on Vinatieri's kick...and not on...the fum...the fum...the fum...I can't say it.


DanB - 1/19/2012 at 05:23 PM

quote:
quote:
yeah. He did.

no do over's.

sorry.

Look, I take my shots. I dish out a few. It's football. It's ultimate trash time.




I know all that, it's all in good fun.

That game was the seed of the Patriot dynasty (although, you guys can have this Scott Pioli bozo back if you want him ).

All started on a FUMBLE.





It started with the Steelers knocking out Bledsoe and Brady taking his place.


gotdrumz - 1/19/2012 at 05:27 PM

quote:
quote:
The Patriots have fileded some great tems, but they have had a lot of help from the powers that be in the NFL.


I've been a fan of the Patriots since '66. We have stunk something awful.

I've had more than my fair share of misery and woe.

I'm diggin' this right to the hilt.

Like I said, everybody benefits from bad calls, Denver beating SD on Hochule's bad call comes to mind. Saying we get help winning 13, 14 games every year is way off.


understand being excited about your team doing well. I wonder how much influence the teams you play every season and where those particular games are played has an inpact on success ?


Bhawk - 1/19/2012 at 05:32 PM

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The Patriots have fileded some great tems, but they have had a lot of help from the powers that be in the NFL.


I've been a fan of the Patriots since '66. We have stunk something awful.

I've had more than my fair share of misery and woe.



Hmmm, there was Rod...



and Lisa...



and Dick...



...ahhhhh, the early 90s...


Bhawk - 1/19/2012 at 05:32 PM

The old Pat Patriot helmet, very cool.


Bhawk - 1/19/2012 at 05:33 PM

Except'n all those years the Pats wore red jerseys, like the Redcoats. Never could figger that one out.


piacere - 1/19/2012 at 05:36 PM

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The Patriots have fileded some great tems, but they have had a lot of help from the powers that be in the NFL.


I've been a fan of the Patriots since '66. We have stunk something awful.

I've had more than my fair share of misery and woe.

I'm diggin' this right to the hilt.

Like I said, everybody benefits from bad calls, Denver beating SD on Hochule's bad call comes to mind. Saying we get help winning 13, 14 games every year is way off.


understand being excited about your team doing well. I wonder how much influence the teams you play every season and where those particular games are played has an inpact on success ?


talk to the schedule makers. We go and play whoever they put in front of us. We play eight on the road, just like everybody else.


piacere - 1/19/2012 at 05:38 PM

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Except'n all those years the Pats wore red jerseys, like the Redcoats. Never could figger that one out.


paying homage to a defeated enemy?


piacere - 1/19/2012 at 05:39 PM

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yeah. He did.

no do over's.

sorry.

Look, I take my shots. I dish out a few. It's football. It's ultimate trash time.




I know all that, it's all in good fun.

That game was the seed of the Patriot dynasty (although, you guys can have this Scott Pioli bozo back if you want him ).

All started on a FUMBLE.





It started with the Steelers knocking out Bledsoe and Brady taking his place.


it started when Bob Kraft bought the team.


piacere - 1/19/2012 at 05:43 PM

just saw on yahoo Peyton Manning is retiring?


gondicar - 1/19/2012 at 05:48 PM

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just saw on yahoo Peyton Manning is retiring?


Rumor started by a tweet from, of all people, Rob Lowe (yes, that Rob Lowe)...

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/7476563/actor-rob-lowe-causes-stir-peyton -manning-retirement-tweets


Bhawk - 1/19/2012 at 05:54 PM

Speaking of Scott Pioli, here is an article that ran this past Sunday that I would think is at least more than interesting to any NFL fan and boy, has this stirred things up around here...

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Arrowhead anxiety: Turnover off the field causes concern
By KENT BABB
The Kansas City Star

Todd Haley walked into the public relations office at Chiefs headquarters on a Thursday in early December. Four days before he was fired as the teams coach, he wanted to talk about what life was like inside this organization. But he didnt know who else might be listening.

Looking up toward the ceiling, he darted into a back hallway before hesitating. Then he turned around, going back through a door and stopping again. Haley suspected that many rooms at the team facility were bugged so that team administrators could monitor employees conversations. Stopping finally in a conference room, Haley said he believed his personal cellphone, a line he used before being hired by the Chiefs in 2009, had been tampered with.

Paranoid? The Chiefs have adamantly denied that they tap phones or listen in on conversations. But as the team enters another period of transition after elevating defensive coordinator Romeo Crennel last week to head coach, interviews with more than two dozen current and former employees suggest that intimidation and secrecy are among the Chiefs principal management styles and that Haley wasnt the only one with paranoid thoughts.

When youre mentally abused, you eventually lose it, too, one former longtime Chiefs executive said.

Since Scott Pioli was hired as general manager in January 2009, life for many inside the Chiefs front office has been marked by massive staff turnover, fear and insecurity about how closely they are watched. Numerous current and former staffers paint a picture of constant worry and, in a few cases, of alleged age discrimination. Three former department heads sued the Chiefs in 2011, though the team has denied wrongdoing.

Clark Hunt, the teams chairman and CEO, rejected the notion that Arrowhead is a difficult place to work, but he said there has been an emphasis placed on responsibility. Change, he said, is often uncomfortable.

We needed a culture that pursued excellence, he said. One that valued honesty and integrity, one where the employees would be held accountable.

Stability has been another matter. In the last three years, more than half the workforce has turned over, and the vast majority of senior staff members are no longer with the team. As dozens have left the organization, with some of the holdovers and new hires trying to adapt to what many described as a restrictive working environment, dread has permeated the franchise.

The level of paranoia was probably the highest that I had ever seen it anywhere, another former high-ranking staffer said. If you make the wrong step, you might not be able to pay your mortgage.



Three years ago, Pioli began ushering in a new culture on Arrowhead Drive. It centered on secrecy, extreme attention to detail and putting an end to the way things had been under longtime general manager Carl Peterson.

Part of it is not only changing the culture of your football team and your locker room, Pioli told USA Today in August 2009. Its changing the culture of all the things that touch your football team and your locker room.

Some of the first changes involved shutting off access and protecting information. Non-football employees, including those who had worked for the Chiefs for decades, were told that they werent allowed on certain floors, or in certain areas of the team facility. Business-side staffers with an office window facing the practice fields were made to keep their shades drawn during practices. The team president was no exception. A security guard made the rounds during practices, sometimes interrupting phone calls and meetings to lower shades.

Chiefs president Mark Donovan said his shade is drawn for the sake of consistency, to give the impression that no business-side employee is trusted more or less than another.

This is making sure that everybody feels the same, he said.
Piolis background was with the New England Patriots, a team known for its devotion to privacy and bending the rules. As he promised, the environment changed. Some said it changed too much.

Its not Lamar Hunts organization anymore, said Steve Schneider, the former stadium operations director who spent 14 years with the Chiefs before being fired in 2010, he said, for being disorganized.

Pioli, who was not made available by the team for this story, has said in the past that the changes were about ending a period of entitlement and emphasizing accountability. Those were the things, he repeated often, that lead a team to victories and championships.

During his first year, Pioli noticed a candy wrapper in a back stairwell and waited to see how long it took to be picked up. About a week passed, and it remained in the stairwell. He placed the wrapper in an envelope, and during a meeting of department heads, Donovan, then the teams chief operating officer, brandished the wrapper as evidence of the attention to detail that Chiefs employees had grown to ignore.

A great coaching moment, Donovan said.

Some thought the example was overblown. Pioli frequently came down hard on minutiae. Some emphases made sense, some staffers said; others, though, seemed over the top. One executive, whos no longer with the team, was sent to human resources for casually referring to Pioli by his last name; the executive said, however, that first names were acceptable. Pioli also sent a memo with detailed instructions, including which stairway to use and which doorway to enter, when using the facilitys gym.

After a while, a saying was adopted by top administrators for behavior that didnt fit the new standards: Thats so 2-and-14, they would say, referring to the Chiefs win-loss record in 2008. This pertained to matters large and small: Stephanie Melton, who worked 11 years on the teams operations staff, recalled Piolis reaction after she and a coworker, after working past midnight on a weekend, had parked a courier van in the unmarked space usually occupied by Piolis car. The women had forgotten to move it, and Pioli was livid the next morning. Melton said she was made to feel for several days that shed be fired.

There was an incredible fear of saying and doing the wrong thing, said a former business-side executive, who was among a group of sources who requested anonymity in some cases because they still worked for the Chiefs, and in others because they believed their comments might hinder their chances of getting another job in sports.

Some, though, paid little attention to the changes. Mike Davidson, who left the team last year after 22 years as equipment manager, said the new policies never seemed overbearing to him.

Everybody has a style, he said, and its your job to figure out that style. I didnt have any problems.

A few former employees, though they dont deny that the working environment was tense, said they believed Pioli and Donovan simply carried out changes that Clark Hunt, a graduate of the results-oriented Goldman Sachs training program, had authorized.

Its professional football, and I do think that it can be a bit of a pressure cooker, said Tammy Fruits, who resigned in October as the teams vice president of sales and marketing. To attribute that to Scott Pioli is unfair.
Donovan said Hunts instructions were clear and necessary.
Really focus on integrity and accountability, Donovan recalled Hunt suggesting. He felt like we needed to take this place and focus on those two areas.

But many saw Pioli as the face of the new way and of overreaction. Melton said she frequently took the brunt of Piolis outbursts on such matters as the temperature in his office, the radio signal in the weight room, and how much the organization spent annually on coffee.

Ray Farmer, the Chiefs pro personnel director, said his boss is thorough sometimes surprisingly so. He said thats a good thing.

In some instances, Farmer said, you could say that hes a micromanager to a degree. I think he likes to know what information is and what youre doing. Scott wants to know, like as a math teacher, How did you get to your problem; how did you get to the answer of the problem?
Hunt agreed.

I believe that good leaders do bring an attention to detail to their leadership roles, he said. And something that I think we struggled with before both Mark and Scott got here was attention to detail. If you set an example with attention to detail, I think it spreads through the organization.
Melton had a different opinion, saying Piolis fixation on trivial matters seemed misguided.

He was so focused on what seemed like unimportant details for the general manager of a football team, she said. We all had to step to the beat of his drum, but we all kept questioning: How is this building a better football team?
Nothing was emphasized like the commitment to secrecy. Pioli was with the Patriots in 2007, when that organization and its head coach, Bill Belichick, were disciplined for the Spygate controversy, in which one of the teams video assistants secretly filmed signals by the New York Jets coaches. Belichick, Piolis mentor and a longtime friend, was fined $500,000 the maximum-allowed fine by the NFL for his role in the scandal.

When Pioli took over the Chiefs, he seemed determined to eliminate the chance of a competitor spying on his team. This past November, a security guard noticed a sedan stopped on Lancer Lane, a public road that runs adjacent to the Chiefs practice fields, as the teams morning session was beginning. The driver took a photograph on his cell phone, and the guard ran toward him, standing there until the man deleted the picture. As the guard returned to his post, he told a Star reporter that, if the man hadnt erased the photo, the guard wouldve confiscated the phone.

Donovan said the efforts to control team information have a purpose.

You may think its harmless, he said when asked about some of the measures, such as lowering window shades. Other people may think its very harmful to our competitive advantage.

Then he continued.

Its about winning.



This past year, Haley stopped talking on the phone and repeatedly checked his office for listening devices. After being fired, Haley didnt respond to interview requests; many former staffers said they signed confidentiality agreements upon being let go.

The Chiefs said theres nothing to substantiate Haleys fears, but some believed that anything was possible.

I dont think that anything would surprise anyone, really, said a former employee who worked for the Chiefs for more than two decades. Thats how Scott wants it.

A common notion is that employees are constantly being watched. When they arrive and leave, where theyre going within the building and who theyre talking to. Indeed, the technology exists at the Chiefs offices, as it does in many corporate settings, to monitor phone calls and emails. But here, some staffers even hesitated before using their cell phones or speaking inside the building, because, like Haley, they suspected that conversations were monitored.

The capability was definitely there for Big Brother to be watching, said Schneider, whose job was to oversee maintenance at team facilities.

Added Pete Penland, who worked in operations before retiring: I just know that some of our bosses had always told us: Be careful what we did, what we said and where we were at in certain parts of the building.

Donovan denied that conversations are monitored or that the building is bugged. He said that in cases of suspected policy breaches or criminal activity, phone logs have been requested.
Im not going to say that weve never done it, but its not something we do, Donovan said. Its not how we operate this business.

The capability was installed during Petersons tenure, one source said, for the Chiefs to monitor emails, web traffic and call logs. Willie Davis, a current Chiefs scout hired by Peterson, said a former colleague was reprimanded during the previous regime for emails sent to another teams scout. But a former Chiefs executive, who was familiar with the teams policies under Peterson, said calls and emails werent routinely monitored. The technology was used more for flagging inappropriate material, such as pornographic websites.
But in the last three years, another former staffer said, printouts of emails, some of them months old, were occasionally requested. The former employee said the belief was that the Chiefs were trying to discover who could be trusted and who couldnt, who was loyal to the cause and who was a liability. Pioli pored over former president Denny Thums call log, a former high-ranking employee said, before Thum was asked to resign in September 2010 after 36 years with the team.

Thum declined comment when reached by telephone.
Kirsten Krug, the teams human resources director, said that no current or former employee has shared uneasiness that conversations were monitored. Hunt said no employee, past or present, has broached this concern with him including Haley.

But the suspicion was prevalent enough that, when some staffers wanted to speak candidly, they set appointments with coworkers to meet outside the building so they could talk face-to-face. Others, trying to skirt an impression that employees shouldnt fraternize with those from different departments, occasionally left the facility at different times, in different cars, so that team administrators wouldnt know they were having lunch together.

I dont think thats ever been an issue for me. I know that people have done it, Farmer said. They dont want to be seen going with this person or that person. I understand I hate to say this I understand the process that some people felt they needed to take, but again, I never kind of adhered to that behavior.

Donovan said the widespread suspicions were unfounded.
I cant control their beliefs, he said.

Hunt was more direct.

Its not true at all, he said.

Still, other staffers were nervous that someone might report to administrators that they were at a place with people they werent supposed to associate with.

Every day, a former longtime staffer said, you walked into the building like you were going to be put on the witness stand and be cross-examined, and you didnt know who it was going to be coming from.

For some, the pressure was more difficult to deal with than others.

Whether its a licensed professional or somebody else, the employee said, hell yeah, youd better talk to somebody. Because youll go crazy.



In January 2010, the worry was amplified and legitimized by a series of staff cuts. When Pioli took over, there were 19 employees in director or vice president positions. Many of them had been with the Chiefs for decades. Three years later, only three Farmer, video operations director Pat Brazil, and special-events director Gary Spani, a former Chiefs player are still in executive positions.

As they term it out there, Schneider said, I was the class of 10.

A year later, the class of 11 was let go. More senior staffers were shown the door, in the form of layoffs, firings and resignations. When the 2008 season began, before Pioli arrived, the staff roster in the teams media guide listed 155 employees, not including coaches and players, working for the Chiefs. More than three years later, 82 of those staffers are gone, though most positions have been filled, in some cases with modified titles.

Scott did give me a chance to kind of earn my job and do what Im doing, Farmer said. He couldve parted ways with me. Why he didnt, I think thats probably a better question for him. But I would like to think that its more based on my work product and what Im able to accomplish.

Donovan said the changes were aimed at improving the organization from top to bottom.

Trying to be the best in the National Football League at what we do, he said. So thats going to come with people who get on board and thrive, and its going to come with people who feel like its not something they want to participate in, or maybe cant.

Sure, the cuts have come during a down economy, and turnover is typical during an organizational change. Donovan said such change, even at the top, is common in sports. But when The Star examined the staff rosters of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, Seattle Seahawks and Denver Broncos, teams that also overhauled their franchises in 2009, it found that those organizations left senior staff mostly untouched. Even the Atlanta Falcons, another team influenced by a former executive from the Patriots lineage, have made only a few changes to senior staff in the four years since Thomas Dimitroff became GM. The Broncos and Falcons reached the playoffs this season.

Any Chiefs employee who had once worked for Peterson was on alert.

I just saw everybody else kind of disappearing, said a former executive who had been hired by Peterson. When youre on the outside, its pretty obvious youre on the outside.
The team has had a different public relations chief, the franchises conduit to media and fans, in each of Piolis three years.

Three of the Chiefs former high-ranking staffers former community-relations director Brenda Sniezek, former controller Larry Clemmons and former maintenance manager Steve Cox have sued the organization for age discrimination. In Sniezeks suit, filed in December, she alleged that she overheard Pioli telling a coworker that he planned to get rid of everyone who was with Carl Peterson, especially anyone over the age of 40.

Sniezek, 52, alleged that she asked the teams PR staff to remove all references to her age on her biography. Reached by The Star late last month, Sniezek said that because of the suit, which sought damages of at least $25,000, she wouldnt discuss her nearly 29-year tenure with the Chiefs, and how it changed after Hunt put Pioli in charge.

There will be a time, and all of this will come out, said Sniezek, who was let go last January.

Clemmons petition, filed in November, alleged that he was informed upon being asked to retire that, Youre the last.
Because of legal restrictions, Donovan said he couldnt discuss the suits, other than referring to a statement in which he said the claims are both baseless and ridiculous.

The plaintiffs claims are completely false, the statement read, and we intend to vigorously defend ourselves.
In the Chiefs answer to Coxs petition, the team denied his allegations. Coxs attorney, Lewis Galloway, said depositions will begin this week.



Before Christmas, a group of about 20 gathered at a cafe in Independence. They were mostly former Chiefs staffers, although some current employees also attended, and they came together to reminisce. They called it a reunion.

It didnt matter which department you were in, said Cox, who is Meltons father, everybody would pull together. It was amazing.

Now, Schneider said, most employees simply keep to themselves. He said staffers used to volunteer to help coworkers out of a jam. If there was snow in the stadium, colleagues from other departments ran down to help shovel it out. Those days, he said, are gone.

It got to a point where people just kept their heads down, didnt want to go outside the box and jeopardize getting in trouble, Schneider said.

He went on.

I still get calls from people who are still there, he said. All I can say is, I feel for you.?

Several former staffers admitted that its difficult being without a job, particularly one in sports. But some said leaving the new Chiefs was more about relief than regret.

I sleep a hell of a lot better at night, a former employee said.
The Chiefs said theyre happy now with the teams direction. But there hasnt been a significant improvement in the one area that Donovan said the changes were intended to support the teams win-loss record. The Chiefs finished 7-9 in Piolis third season, the teams second losing season since the changes began. Still, Donovan said the organization is in better shape compared to three years ago.

There are a lot of people who have been here longer than Ive been here, he said, who will sit there and tell you that its a much better place to work today.

In addition to the more than two dozen independent interviews conducted by The Star, the Chiefs arranged phone interviews with eight current employees. Farmer and Davis were among those, and their interviews were the only two conducted without a Chiefs PR staffer present. Each of the employees spoke favorably about the working environment and the teams direction. The team emphasized that the employees were not coached on what to say.

One of those was Allen Wright, the teams equipment manager, who was with the Chiefs when Peterson took over in 1988. Back then, the Chiefs also overhauled the staff: Three years later, 62 percent of the staff had been retained, but seven of 10 department heads had been replaced. The organization was smaller then, but Wright recalled a similar reaction to the changes.

I remember the same feelings and people saying the same things, he said. I was a young kid working in the equipment department, and everybody was talking about how everybody was worried about getting fired. Any time theres change, thats just the feeling that people have.



On that Thursday in December, when Haleys suspicions peaked, the former Chiefs coach said he would be in touch to discuss the working environment but that it would be from a number you didnt recognize. Haleys call never came, but in the time since, others have questioned how productive he could have been if he was so preoccupied with who might be watching him.

No one could be successful in that environment, a former director-level employee said.

Melton left the Chiefs in 2010 after arriving at a similar conclusion. More than a year later, she was asked if she could see any benefit from the changes. After a long pause, she answered.

Im sure theres some good that has come out of it, she said. I would be hard-pressed to be able to identify that right now, without really thinking about it. I dont think our football team is any better; I dont think our fans are being any more well-served.

She paused again.

I couldnt tell you, she said. Im sorry. Im not very helpful in that regard.

Melton was at the reunion last month. She said they talked about how much they missed working together. She said they tried not to dwell on stressful times, but there were plenty of things that former staffers said they wouldnt miss about working for the Chiefs.

I dont miss being scared to go in every day, one former staffer said. Thinking, Whos going to yell at me now? Its so sad, because it was a great job. There was a time that it was a great place.

http://www.kansascity.com/2012/01/14/3371495/arrowhead-anxiety-turnover-off .html




Tapped phones? Bugged offices? Did Todd Haley tank games by starting Tyler Palko just so he could get out? All these questions and more!

Tell you one thing, it's having a direct impact on season ticket renewals. Many are just chalking it up to disgruntled ex-employees, but all in all the whole story is just plain weird.


gondicar - 1/19/2012 at 05:56 PM

I have to laugh every time I hear people say the Pats get all the calls and that's why they've been such a dominant team for the last 10 years.

The tuck call was technically the right call, but it also was a bad call at the same time. Sometimes they go your way, sometimes they don't. I just always just considered it makeup call for what I have always considered one of if not the worst call in playoff history...on Dec. 18, 1976 Pats vs Raiders, the strip sack of Ken Stabler by Ray Hamilton that was flagged for roughing the passer...that call led to the Raiders game winning touchdown. Horrible call. Pats could have won it all that year.


[Edited on 1/19/2012 by gondicar]


piacere - 1/19/2012 at 06:39 PM

I guess Pioli's committment to winning includes picking up candy wrappers. A great coaching moment...

Hey Scotty, draft an O line that can block and leave the candy wrappers on the floor...


fensranger - 1/19/2012 at 07:08 PM

Just to set the record straight, Moe Lewis of the Jets knocked out Bledsoe, not the Steelers!!!!

Biggest mistake the Jets ever made and they have made more than a few.


BIGV - 1/19/2012 at 09:40 PM

I'll take the two home teams, thank you very much, resulting in:

New England 40 <> S.F. 17


piacere - 1/20/2012 at 06:14 PM

starting to get the jitters. Man, I'm a nervous wreck from now until we're leading by 20. Sure hope we win, it'll make the 6:30 game that much more enjoyable.

If we lose, I probably won't even watch it. Head down to the Honorable Senator Claiborne Pell Bridge and see if Wharfy is still standing there mumbling to himself...


Sang - 1/20/2012 at 06:24 PM

He is......................


DanB - 1/20/2012 at 07:39 PM

The Patriots have not beat a team with a winning record this year.


Bhawk - 1/20/2012 at 07:40 PM

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The Patriots have not beat a team with a winning record this year.


Well, technically the Donkeys were 9-8...


ScottyVII - 1/20/2012 at 08:59 PM

Ever since Eli manning has donned a NY Giants uniform all I have ever heard is that Eli will never be his Brother (Peyton). Well here is a post from Jim Rome that conveys my thoughts exactly. GO GIANTS!!!

Not only is Eli Manning not the, aww shucks, dopey little brother, hes on the verge of blowing right by big brother, Peyton Manning. In fact, he already has on a number of different levels.

Look, Id never say hes the better passer; and no matter what Eli does from here on out, given Peytons four MVP awards, Ill probably never be able to argue that Eli is the better player.

But I can say, right now, hes tougher, more clutch and definitely a better big game player. Elis travelled a much more brutal road than Peyton has. Eli has had to deal with the pressure of being Archie Mannings son, and Peyton Mannings little brother. (The only person whos had more pressure than that is their other brother Cooper, who has to contend with being Archies kid and both Peyton and Elis brother: good luck with that Coop).

On top of that, Peyton never had the bulls-eye on his back that Elis had: a bulls-eye born not only from going first overall, but from having your old man put a gun to San Diegos head, and forcing your way into the biggest pressure cooker in the world: the apple. Peyton played in small market Indy, where he was deified from the second he stepped on the field. Elis has to ball in a cut-throat environment where he was never given the benefit of the doubt and has had someone coming for his heart nearly every second since hes been there. And of course, Peyton has better numbers: hes playing indoors, in perfect conditions, in a passing factory, while Eli has played his whole career in a wind tunnel and had to deal with the harshest elements. Eli may never be the better player, but Peyton will never be as clutch: Peyton beat Rex Grossman and the Bears for his ring, and by the way, didnt look so great doing it. Eli shocked the world in beating Tom Brady and the undefeated Pats for his. And left with the MVP award. And that was right after he shocked Brett Favre and the Packers in their house. And did the exact same thing to Aaron Rodgers and Green Bay last week. Sorry, but Peyton never won games like that, so while he will always be better, hell never be as tough or as clutch as Eli.

Jim Rome


piacere - 1/20/2012 at 09:11 PM

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The Steelers have not beat a team in the playoffs this year.


little reality check for ya there bro...


Bhawk - 1/20/2012 at 09:16 PM

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Sorry, but Peyton never won games like that


I wouldn't say never. 2006 AFC Championship Game the Colts were down 21-3 to the Patriots and the Colts came back and won 38-34.

Rome is also putting everything on Eli's big wins totally on Eli. Did the rest of the Giants players have no hand in any of it?


fensranger - 1/20/2012 at 09:27 PM

hard to see whether Eli will compare to Peyton when all is said and done, too early. 10 or 11 straight years in the playoffs is hard to top no matter what division you play in. How does one judge , by passing stats, wins or rings?

If Eli loses sunday would someone have even written about this comparison. If Peyton was healthy this year, would Colts still be playing today. If so, Peyton's presence would have probably been worth 9 or 10 more wins.

I am not sure how one could measure this, but IMO, its Peyton all the way as of todays date.


piacere - 1/21/2012 at 01:51 PM

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Sorry, but Peyton never won games like that


I wouldn't say never. 2006 AFC Championship Game the Colts were down 21-3 to the Patriots and the Colts came back and won 38-34.

Rome is also putting everything on Eli's big wins totally on Eli. Did the rest of the Giants players have no hand in any of it?


The Giants D wins their big games. Peyton's one of the best ever...I don't think Eli's there yet...


DougMacKenzie - 1/21/2012 at 03:08 PM

I think Eli is getting there, and if he goes on to win another SuperBowl you'd have to say he's arrived. But how freakin' good is Brady? Ifr the Pats win this year, you'd have to put him right up there with the best to ever play the game. Ever. Man, that was painful to type. Ugh.


piacere - 1/21/2012 at 03:26 PM

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I think Eli is getting there, and if he goes on to win another SuperBowl you'd have to say he's arrived. But how freakin' good is Brady? Ifr the Pats win this year, you'd have to put him right up there with the best to ever play the game. Ever. Man, that was painful to type. Ugh.


you're entering into the light of glory, redemption and might and leaving behind the hopelessness of folly and disarray.

The journey from such harshness can be painful, my brother.

Keep going! Enter into the light!


Brendan - 1/21/2012 at 09:21 PM

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The 49ers are going to be terrible. Just a hunch...
Here was my own brilliant prognostication from August 2011. Wowsers, was I wrong.


fensranger - 1/21/2012 at 09:50 PM

I hate the Pats but Brady is definitely one of the best ever. You cannot argue that. Peyton is also one of the best ever. It is a different game than 20 years ago when the run and defense were more important than today. Manning -peyton that is and Brady are responsible for that IMO.


DougMacKenzie - 1/22/2012 at 12:55 PM

Man, I love this time of year. Down to the very best left standing, who's going to advance to the big dance? I still Like the home teams, San Fran and the Patsies, to make it through, but I wouldn't bet the farm on it. I can still remember when my beloved Cowboys were in the hunt every year for over 20 years.........


Lee - 1/22/2012 at 01:29 PM

I'm picking the Giants and (with trepidation) the Pats to move on. The line on the Pats/Ravens game makes no sense to me. Seven points? Hmm..

Should be a fun day!


piacere - 1/22/2012 at 02:27 PM

those Ravens players are some BIG DUDES.

common sense overrode my desire to bang a few of 'em out when I saw biceps through winter coats and not-very-pleasant- demeanors staring at my Patriots jersey...


piacere - 1/22/2012 at 02:53 PM

just scored a ticket! I'm off to the promised land...

adios amigos, have fun!!


Lee - 1/22/2012 at 02:57 PM

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just scored a ticket! I'm off to the promised land...

adios amigos, have fun!!



Going to San Francisco?


piacere - 1/22/2012 at 03:04 PM

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just scored a ticket! I'm off to the promised land...

adios amigos, have fun!!



Going to San Francisco?


I hope not...I can't imagine needing two pairs of sox, with foot warmers, gloves, with hand warmers, a hat, boots, longjohns, a one piece work suit and sneaking in a thermos of hot soup...in San Francisco...

the promised land comes at a price...


DougMacKenzie - 1/22/2012 at 03:24 PM

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just scored a ticket! I'm off to the promised land...

adios amigos, have fun!!


Enjoy, my brother.


BIGV - 1/22/2012 at 07:01 PM

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The 49ers are going to be terrible. Just a hunch...


Pro football is such a game of inches....if the Niners lose, one can argue that they played their SB last weekend against the Saints.. If they win, you can say that prior to this game the 49ers, (W/Alex Smith as the starter) had covered 17 of their last 18 at home....How could you bet against them?


BIGV - 1/22/2012 at 07:07 PM

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But how freakin' good is Brady? Ifr the Pats win this year, you'd have to put him right up there with the best to ever play the game. Ever. Man, that was painful to type. Ugh.


Yeah, the truth can be awfully painful Doug. He is very, very good. But try to look at it the way the fans of the other 31 franchises do.....

At least it is not a Dallas Cowboy's QB you're talking about....


pops42 - 1/22/2012 at 08:21 PM

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Sorry, but Peyton never won games like that


I wouldn't say never. 2006 AFC Championship Game the Colts were down 21-3 to the Patriots and the Colts came back and won 38-34.

Rome is also putting everything on Eli's big wins totally on Eli. Did the rest of the Giants players have no hand in any of it?


The Giants D wins their big games. Peyton's one of the best ever...I don't think Eli's there yet...
hows about when he beat the undefeated patsies in the superbowl 4 years ago! id say that qualifies him as an "A" List QB.


pops42 - 1/22/2012 at 08:23 PM

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The 49ers are going to be terrible. Just a hunch...


Pro football is such a game of inches....if the Niners lose, one can argue that they played their SB last weekend against the Saints.. If they win, you can say that prior to this game the 49ers, (W/Alex Smith as the starter) had covered 17 of their last 18 at home....How could you bet against them?


Giants will beat them today 30-24


BIGV - 1/22/2012 at 08:44 PM

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The 49ers are going to be terrible. Just a hunch...


Pro football is such a game of inches....if the Niners lose, one can argue that they played their SB last weekend against the Saints.. If they win, you can say that prior to this game the 49ers, (W/Alex Smith as the starter) had covered 17 of their last 18 at home....How could you bet against them?


Giants will beat them today 30-24


Just a Saints fan living on the West Coast baby!


DougMacKenzie - 1/22/2012 at 09:02 PM

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But how freakin' good is Brady? Ifr the Pats win this year, you'd have to put him right up there with the best to ever play the game. Ever. Man, that was painful to type. Ugh.


Yeah, the truth can be awfully painful Doug. He is very, very good. But try to look at it the way the fans of the other 31 franchises do.....

At least it is not a Dallas Cowboy's QB you're talking about....



Infidels.


Brendan - 1/22/2012 at 11:37 PM

How cool was Steven Tyler?


emr - 1/23/2012 at 02:35 AM

this Giant-SF game is getting really interesting (7 minutes left)


spacemonkey - 1/23/2012 at 03:14 AM

Dirty Play on SF Special Teamer #96 with A Leg Whip on Giants 39 after the punt returner went out of bounds causing him to fall back On his head. Lucky not injured.


High fives for that as 96 goes to the sideline.

High fives for a Dirty Play?????

Wott kind of team is Harbaugh running?


spacemonkey - 1/23/2012 at 03:31 AM

and the 49 special teams turn it over in OT.

Instant Karma gonna get you.


spacemonkey - 1/23/2012 at 03:37 AM

SUPERBOWL 2007 Rematch


placere is a camel Humper


spacemonkey - 1/23/2012 at 03:52 AM

Giants D played Great SF did not convert one single third down. a couple of blown coverages gave SF tds.

Giants didn't turn the ball over.

SF special teams did.

That was the difference

SF D played a heck of a game also


hastings - 1/23/2012 at 04:24 AM

Great game played hard by both teams.

GIANTS


Sang - 1/23/2012 at 04:30 AM

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SUPERBOWL 2007 Rematch


placere is a camel Humper



Well duh...............


DougMacKenzie - 1/23/2012 at 02:15 PM

Wow, both the games could have just as easily gone the other way. Giants - Pats will be a more exciting game, that's for sure. A grudge match! Looking forward to this one.


Bhawk - 1/23/2012 at 03:22 PM

Congrats to the resident Giants and Pats fans!

As to the actual Super Bowl, to be honest, I could care less which Boston or New York team gets another championship in any sport. Go anybody!


fensranger - 1/23/2012 at 04:10 PM

2 great games, 2 very large goats!!!! Giants have the Karma this year, truly amazing. They catch Green Bay on their worst day and then get amazing luck yesterday. SF had 2 interceptions broken up by their own men colliding. WOW!!!

It was great to see some defensive football for a change. Congrats to the winners!!! My worst wish Giants and Pats in superbowl. As a Jets fan, not much to root for. However, as a football fan it will be a great matchup and fun to watch.

I have to pull for the G Men-lesser of 2 evils and I am still a New Yawker!!!!


IPowrie - 1/23/2012 at 04:23 PM

Now the two weeks of over hyping the super bowl. Can they play the game already


piacere - 1/23/2012 at 04:35 PM

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Now the two weeks of over hyping the super bowl. Can they play the game already


c'mon man, admit it, you just want to see Madonna...


Brendan - 1/23/2012 at 04:55 PM

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Dirty Play on SF Special Teamer #96 with A Leg Whip on Giants 39 after the punt returner went out of bounds causing him to fall back On his head. Lucky not injured.




No leg whip. Over-aggressive? Maybe. Dirty? I don't see it. From Pop Warner on up, what's the first thing you learn when playing special teams? Keep your head on a swivel. You gotta look upfield.

Great game all around. Congrats to the Pats and Giants fans. I hate you all...


piacere - 1/23/2012 at 05:03 PM

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Sorry, but Peyton never won games like that


I wouldn't say never. 2006 AFC Championship Game the Colts were down 21-3 to the Patriots and the Colts came back and won 38-34.

Rome is also putting everything on Eli's big wins totally on Eli. Did the rest of the Giants players have no hand in any of it?


The Giants D wins their big games. Peyton's one of the best ever...I don't think Eli's there yet...
hows about when he beat the undefeated patsies in the superbowl 4 years ago! id say that qualifies him as an "A" List QB.


"He" didn't beat anybody. The Giants D held, what was up to that point, the best offense ever to 14 points. You don't need an "A list" qb when your D is playing like that. Besides that, four years ago was four years ago. Get in the present bro, the past is dead. Trust me, Patriot Nation is just as concerned with this year's Giant's D...

Good luck in two weeks...


dougrhon - 1/23/2012 at 05:07 PM

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hard to see whether Eli will compare to Peyton when all is said and done, too early. 10 or 11 straight years in the playoffs is hard to top no matter what division you play in. How does one judge , by passing stats, wins or rings?

If Eli loses sunday would someone have even written about this comparison. If Peyton was healthy this year, would Colts still be playing today. If so, Peyton's presence would have probably been worth 9 or 10 more wins.

I am not sure how one could measure this, but IMO, its Peyton all the way as of todays date.


You have to see Eli game in and game out to see how great he has become.


dougrhon - 1/23/2012 at 05:09 PM

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Sorry, but Peyton never won games like that


I wouldn't say never. 2006 AFC Championship Game the Colts were down 21-3 to the Patriots and the Colts came back and won 38-34.

Rome is also putting everything on Eli's big wins totally on Eli. Did the rest of the Giants players have no hand in any of it?


The Giants D wins their big games. Peyton's one of the best ever...I don't think Eli's there yet...


I think the Giants won six games they were trailing in the 4th Quarter. Manning had everything to do with that. In the playoffs the D has stepped up. Through the season the D was horrible. Eli is the team MVP this year.


pops42 - 1/23/2012 at 05:22 PM

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Sorry, but Peyton never won games like that


I wouldn't say never. 2006 AFC Championship Game the Colts were down 21-3 to the Patriots and the Colts came back and won 38-34.

Rome is also putting everything on Eli's big wins totally on Eli. Did the rest of the Giants players have no hand in any of it?


The Giants D wins their big games. Peyton's one of the best ever...I don't think Eli's there yet...
hows about when he beat the undefeated patsies in the superbowl 4 years ago! id say that qualifies him as an "A" List QB.


"He" didn't beat anybody. The Giants D held, what was up to that point, the best offense ever to 14 points. You don't need an "A list" qb when your D is playing like that. Besides that, four years ago was four years ago. Get in the present bro, the past is dead. Trust me, Patriot Nation is just as concerned with this year's Giant's D...

Good luck in two weeks...
Great D helps win football games, but without a great offense and especially a great QB you wont go far, heres a history lesson : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y9vMKw5Ur7M


dougrhon - 1/23/2012 at 05:39 PM

Both defenses were tremendous in the NFC game. The 49ers in the second half were impossible to move the ball on and Eli seemed to be rushed or hurried on every single play. Plus the Giants punting game was far from at its best. Fortunately the Giants defense was really even better, particularly in the second half. Two blown coverages led to both 49er TDs. Other than that the defense was stifling and perfect. In spite of the smothering D, however, Manning STILL managed to throw for 300 plus yards. But the most telling thing was that with all those hurries, all those sacks etc., He never turned over the ball. That allowed it to be a game of attrition in which one team waited for their break. The Giants got a good break with that punt that glanced off Williams' leg. In overtime that was a huge play to strip him of the ball like that turning what seemed to be a hopeless situation for the Giants who were not moving the ball at all, to an instant win. You could see how demoralized the 49ers became because all of a sudden Bradshaw was gaining yards on the ground to turn it from a tough but makeable field goal to essentially an extra point.

I like the Giants chances in two weeks. This is not the Pats from two years ago. They do not have an especially intimadating D and Manning will be able to make his big plays.


piacere - 1/23/2012 at 05:48 PM

oh cripes.

this is going to be a word-a-thon.

hey pops, thanks for your insight and knowledge of the game. I'm sure you make Giants fans everywhere proud.

I'm out. See ya in a couple weeks.

some people take the fun right out of everything


emr - 1/23/2012 at 05:51 PM

Whatever your thoughts are on Eli; and I still reserve decision whether he is upper-elite or a bit below, he took an unreal beating. So many slow-motion shots showed his contorted face before he hit the ground - just from impact. To take that beating, throw that many passes due to a relatively weak running game, and keep coming back deserves kudos


pops42 - 1/23/2012 at 05:59 PM

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oh cripes.

this is going to be a word-a-thon.

hey pops, thanks for your insight and knowledge of the game. I'm sure you make Giants fans everywhere proud.

I'm out. See ya in a couple weeks.

some people take the fun right out of everything
I guess you didnt tune in for this game, camel humper. http://scores.espn.go.com/nfl/recap?gameId=311106017 you are "out" alright. youre "superior" knowledge of football is just awe inspiring.

[Edited on 1/23/2012 by pops42]


dougrhon - 1/23/2012 at 09:23 PM

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Whatever your thoughts are on Eli; and I still reserve decision whether he is upper-elite or a bit below, he took an unreal beating. So many slow-motion shots showed his contorted face before he hit the ground - just from impact. To take that beating, throw that many passes due to a relatively weak running game, and keep coming back deserves kudos


Not to mention that he did not turn the ball over one time. And he still threw for over 300 yards though most of that was in the first half.


DanB - 1/23/2012 at 09:42 PM

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oh cripes.

this is going to be a word-a-thon.

hey pops, thanks for your insight and knowledge of the game. I'm sure you make Giants fans everywhere proud.

I'm out. See ya in a couple weeks.

some people take the fun right out of everything
I guess you didnt tune in for this game, camel humper. http://scores.espn.go.com/nfl/recap?gameId=311106017 you are "out" alright. youre "superior" knowledge of football is just awe inspiring.

[Edited on 1/23/2012 by pops42]


his football knowledge is superior he has a copy of all of Belicheat's tapes


spacemonkey - 1/23/2012 at 09:47 PM

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Dirty Play on SF Special Teamer #96 with A Leg Whip on Giants 39 after the punt returner went out of bounds causing him to fall back On his head. Lucky not injured.




No leg whip. Over-aggressive? Maybe. Dirty? I don't see it. From Pop Warner on up, what's the first thing you learn when playing special teams? Keep your head on a swivel. You gotta look upfield.

Great game all around. Congrats to the Pats and Giants fans. I hate you all...


It looked like a whip in real time, I hadn't seen this replay.

But it was a hit from behind and late, The punt returner was already out of bounds.

Not necessary. And celebrating a hit on an injured player??


fensranger - 1/23/2012 at 09:48 PM

Doug lets be a ittle objective about Eli not turning the ball over!!! He threw 2 should be interceptions that 49 D Backs collided on. Either of 2 guys could have easily made each of the plays. A bit of luck counts.

that being said, i think Eli was amazing given the complete beating he took. I could not believe he was able to finish the game. And yes, he is the Giants MVP this year without a doubt!!!!


pops42 - 1/23/2012 at 11:07 PM

Eli got a real good beating from SF on sunday. he got up each time and kept chipping away at SF turf, without whinning like a b!tch and crying like tom brady. Eli and the rest of the offense's ability to advance on 3rd and even 4th down situations, is incredible. and its why I give em the advantage over the pats in 2 weeks. yesterday sure was a great day of football!.


piacere - 1/24/2012 at 02:16 PM

you dust-laden, camel-humpin', snake-charmin', goat-sniffin' desert roamin' bedouins still don't realize that glory and might, the way to the promised land, starts and ends in the rolling hills of New England, where enlightenment reigns down like a cool summer rain.

PATRIOTS !!!!!!!!

early prediction, subject to change: Patriots 31 Ginats 27


dougrhon - 1/24/2012 at 05:26 PM

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Doug lets be a ittle objective about Eli not turning the ball over!!! He threw 2 should be interceptions that 49 D Backs collided on. Either of 2 guys could have easily made each of the plays. A bit of luck counts.

that being said, i think Eli was amazing given the complete beating he took. I could not believe he was able to finish the game. And yes, he is the Giants MVP this year without a doubt!!!!


Of course luck has everything to do with it. But it is also the residue of design. While he threw a couple of interceptible balls he also avoided it on numerous other plays many of which he basically took sacks or dumped the ball off behind the line of scrimage for essentially no gain. He played very very smart in a very difficult offensive environment and as a result kept the Gaints in a position to win when a break finally happened. The defense had much to do with that as well other than the two big mistakes.


spacemonkey - 1/24/2012 at 06:35 PM

Eli was asked at the beginning of the season if he was an "elite" QB. Of course he had to say yes, anything else is a sign of lack of confidence.

But then he has backed it up for most of the Year, Didn't play well against the Redskins but other than that carried a offense that has struggled to run the ball. You had to expect this to be an issue with the loss of 2 perennial starters and starting a rookie fullback. So you knew the Giants needed a great Year from Eli.

The other factor has been the play of Victor Cruz, especially with the loss of Steve Smith to the Eagles
and with Manningham and Nicks being banged up much of the year. And as bad as the run blocking has been. The Pass Blocking and blitz pickups by the backs has been outstanding. So Eli has had time to get the ball up the field for big plays to Cruz and Nicks.

Eli is cool as the other side of the pillow, sometimes a bit too laid back IMO, with too many delay of game calls. He has done a much better Job of protecting the ball this year after setting a Team record for interceptions last season.

As well as the giants are playing There is room for improvement. 2 blown coverages against the 49ers by the secondary. Continued mistakes in run blocking.

The D-line is healthy and is bringing the pressure without a lot of blitzing, But if the secondary continue to blow coverages Brady will kill them.

The reason the Giants are going to the super bowl is the D-line getting healthy, Gettting Kenny Phillips back to help secure the coverage. They are still thin at Corner. Guys are having to play out of their normal positions. But they dominated the 49ers but for the blown coverages.

And the other factor is Eli. his third down efficiency is unbelievable. But you have to credit the O-line and running backs for giving him the time to make big plays.

If they can get the running game going and protect the ball, I don't see how the Patriots can beat the Giants.






Sang - 1/24/2012 at 06:46 PM

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early prediction, subject to reality: Patriots 21 Ginats 31


pops42 - 1/24/2012 at 07:24 PM

Giants 24 patsies 10


fensranger - 1/24/2012 at 07:48 PM

you have to go with G MEN. They have played a tough schedule to get here and are peaking. They clearly have the better D with both offenses pretty close. Grankowski is hurt and even with 2 weeks he rolled that ankle pretty bad and i know from experience that he will probably not be fully healed.

I believe G MEN win it by about a TD so i go with Giants 26-Pats 20.


DougMacKenzie - 1/24/2012 at 08:03 PM

Patsies, 31-23. Gronkowski will be fine. Pats offense will prove to be too much for Giants D, Pats defense will do just enough in the red zone to win.


gondicar - 1/24/2012 at 08:04 PM

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Grankowski is hurt and even with 2 weeks he rolled that ankle pretty bad and i know from experience that he will probably not be fully healed.

Come on man, it is Gronkowski...with an "o" not an "a". Sheesh.

Or you can refer to him by his new moniker, Yo soy fiesta!

And mark my words, his ankle will not be an issue whatsoever come Feb 5.

Lots of confidence being shown here in the Giants. Vegas currently has New England favored by 3, and I would think that should be enough to entice at least a few of you to put your money where your mouth is, if you are into that kind of thing.


fensranger - 1/24/2012 at 08:29 PM

my money will definitely be where my mouth is especially getting 3 points.


piacere - 1/25/2012 at 01:37 PM

thanks for the laughs kids...


Bhawk - 1/25/2012 at 03:06 PM

My Super Bowl money is going to vital purposes, such as scotch, gin, mixers, homemade pizza ingredients, wings to grill, chips, dips, etc...

I have no idea who will win, but come game time I'll be rooting for the Giants. After all, they provided me with one of the best Super Bowl memories of my lifetime...


piacere - 1/25/2012 at 03:31 PM

"memories".

not here. Here, there's always another super bowl to play...

win or lose, there's always another one...


Bhawk - 1/25/2012 at 03:36 PM

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"memories".

not here. Here, there's always another super bowl to play...

win or lose, there's always another one...


I wasn't thinking about the last Giants-Pats Super Bowl at all.

My memory is Super Bowl XXI...when Parcells, Simms, LT, Bavaro, McConkey and Company thumped the Denver Broncos.

Not everything centers around the Patriots, you know...


gotdrumz - 1/25/2012 at 04:29 PM

It all depends on what crew of officials is chosen to "o-fishy-eight"

If the Giant's D can keep Marsha Brady (my nose....my nose) on his butt enough the Patriot's offense won't matter. The old saying is Defese wins championships. The Patriots have one that suits up every week but they very rarely show up to play. If the organiziation is that great, why is it so hard to filed both an amazing offense and a decent defense at the same time ? Oh yeah, you can cheat and get help from the ref's to cover the slack.

my worthless .02 (.03 if we were in Europe)


michaelsio - 1/25/2012 at 04:39 PM

The Super Bowl record is 5-7 for the team that won when they met in the regular season.


Should be interesting.


spacemonkey - 1/25/2012 at 05:16 PM

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The Super Bowl record is 5-7 for the team that won when they met in the regular season.


Should be interesting.


let's see.....

we beat them with out bradshaw and a beat up D line earlier in the year

Now with a mostly healthy team we are going to lose????????????????????

OK.


spacemonkey - 1/25/2012 at 05:25 PM

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"memories".

not here. Here, there's always another super bowl to play...

win or lose, there's always another one...


I wasn't thinking about the last Giants-Pats Super Bowl at all.

My memory is Super Bowl XXI...when Parcells, Simms, LT, Bavaro, McConkey and Company thumped the Denver Broncos.

Not everything centers around the Patriots, you know...


I still have my Phil Simms superbowl MVP autograph jacket. 22 of 25. with a drop by McConkey who also caught a tipped ball off Bavaro for a TD.

I will rewatch that tape in the lead up to the Superbowl.

I wss hoping for a Baltimore rematch to avenge the beatdown Ray Ray put on Kerry Collins.
(sorry camel humper)

Won't be watching that game again, ever.



Simms completion % statistic is still a Superbowl Record,

He was hot hot hot. Before the Game he told the O line to give him some time and they would have a big game.

LT and the fellas crushed Elwood and friends in the second half.

[Edited on 1/25/2012 by spacemonkey]


dougrhon - 1/25/2012 at 05:40 PM

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Patsies, 31-23. Gronkowski will be fine. Pats offense will prove to be too much for Giants D, Pats defense will do just enough in the red zone to win.


Spoken like a true cowboys fan.


DougMacKenzie - 1/25/2012 at 06:42 PM

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Patsies, 31-23. Gronkowski will be fine. Pats offense will prove to be too much for Giants D, Pats defense will do just enough in the red zone to win.


Spoken like a true cowboys fan.


piacere - 1/25/2012 at 08:59 PM

alrighty...

'hawk , my bad. I just had to naturally assume that since Foxboro is the center of the universe, you were referring to the Patriots...

I like Simms. That was a great game he had. He's a good dude.

I'll be listening to Gil and Gino during the game. I just can't stomach Collinsworth...


piacere - 1/26/2012 at 01:41 PM

bedouins

next time you see someone wearing anything Patriots, a hat, jersey, jacket, sweatshirt, whatever....walk over to that person...take the time, be brave....thank him or her.....for shining a ray of light upon your little corner of the world....

PATRIOTS !!!!!!


gondicar - 1/26/2012 at 02:07 PM

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I like Simms. That was a great game he had. He's a good dude.

Can't stand Simms, not only is he the biggest Patriots hater of all the network announcers, but I don't know where he comes up with half the sh!t that comes out of his mouth.

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I'll be listening to Gil and Gino during the game. I just can't stomach Collinsworth...

God bless him, but Gino is about 3 or 4 years past what should have been his retirement. Gil is still ok but not as good as he once was either. Putting Zolak on as sideline reporter this year has helped, and I hope he takes over for Gino in the booth next season.


Bhawk - 1/26/2012 at 03:21 PM

Trying to figure out what to put on top of the Super Bowl pizzas...


piacere - 1/26/2012 at 03:24 PM

yeah, Gino is just about done. Great guy but sometimes forgets what's going on...

Gil has his moments too. I'll still take them over Collinsworth.

I guess we all have an opinion on who our favorite announcers are. Simms isn't my favorite by any means but he's tolerable.

I know he's not an announcer but the biggest Patriot hater, and there are quite a few, is Tom Jackson.


Bhawk - 1/26/2012 at 03:27 PM

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I know he's not an announcer but the biggest Patriot hater, and there are quite a few, is Tom Jackson.



What's wrong with hating the Patriots? It's fun and makes you feel better.

I mean, it is bad for Patriots fans, who are gracious, humble, and...oh, wait. Never mind.

As to Tom Jackson? He's a Bronco. What do you expect?


piacere - 1/26/2012 at 03:40 PM

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I know he's not an announcer but the biggest Patriot hater, and there are quite a few, is Tom Jackson.



What's wrong with hating the Patriots? It's fun and makes you feel better.

I mean, it is bad for Patriots fans, who are gracious, humble, and...oh, wait. Never mind.

As to Tom Jackson? He's a Bronco. What do you expect?


I expect him to pick the Gaints, which is fine by me. Have at it, Tommy.


gondicar - 1/26/2012 at 03:48 PM

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What's wrong with hating the Patriots? It's fun and makes you feel better.


Nothing wrong with fans and even media from other cities hating on the Patriots, I expect and welcome that because it comes with the territory (i.e. success). But it does bother me when it comes from the network guys who are supposed to be "impartial" while they are calling the game.

Maybe it is, at least in part, because Simms ends up doing a lot of Pats games during the season, but he drives me nuts. At least we won't have to endure him for the SB...I'll take Collinsworth over Simms any day and twice on Sunday.



[Edited on 1/26/2012 by gondicar]


spacemonkey - 1/26/2012 at 05:42 PM

I'll take anyone over motor mouth Al Micheals

someone needs to explain to that moron the difference between "difference" and "Differential"

He thinks using the second makes him took smart or educated. but he just looks like a idiot.


piacere - 1/27/2012 at 02:34 PM

why wail, worry and be weary with woe, O bedouins?

look to the northeast, O wandering camel sniffers.

PATRIOTS !!!!!!


Bhawk - 1/27/2012 at 03:02 PM

OK, I think I'm going with pepperoni, goat cheese and some nice imported buffalo mozz, then prosciutto, pancetta, italian sausage, basil, provolone and mozz...gotta come up with the third, mebbe caramelized onions, mushrooms and arugula with some pecorino romano? Hmmm...


Sang - 1/27/2012 at 03:06 PM

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why wail, worry and be weary with woe, O bedouins?

look to the northeast, O wandering camel sniffers.







piacere - 1/27/2012 at 05:27 PM

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OK, I think I'm going with pepperoni, goat cheese and some nice imported buffalo mozz, then prosciutto, pancetta, italian sausage, basil, provolone and mozz...gotta come up with the third, mebbe caramelized onions, mushrooms and arugula with some pecorino romano? Hmmm...


eat Italian much?


Bhawk - 1/27/2012 at 05:38 PM

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OK, I think I'm going with pepperoni, goat cheese and some nice imported buffalo mozz, then prosciutto, pancetta, italian sausage, basil, provolone and mozz...gotta come up with the third, mebbe caramelized onions, mushrooms and arugula with some pecorino romano? Hmmm...


eat Italian much?


As often as I can!


piacere - 1/27/2012 at 06:47 PM

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quote:
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OK, I think I'm going with pepperoni, goat cheese and some nice imported buffalo mozz, then prosciutto, pancetta, italian sausage, basil, provolone and mozz...gotta come up with the third, mebbe caramelized onions, mushrooms and arugula with some pecorino romano? Hmmm...


eat Italian much?


As often as I can!




same here.

not sure what the plan at the lady friend's house is. Knowing her, I'm sure there'll be seafood. We're more "pickers" than "engulfers".

little necks, steamers, lobster tails, maybe some baked cod, stuffies (she makes 'em stuffed with scallops, crab and the quahog meat), unreal...




Bhawk - 1/27/2012 at 06:51 PM

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OK, I think I'm going with pepperoni, goat cheese and some nice imported buffalo mozz, then prosciutto, pancetta, italian sausage, basil, provolone and mozz...gotta come up with the third, mebbe caramelized onions, mushrooms and arugula with some pecorino romano? Hmmm...


eat Italian much?


As often as I can!




same here.

not sure what the plan at the lady friend's house is. Knowing her, I'm sure there'll be seafood. We're more "pickers" than "engulfers".

little necks, steamers, lobster tails, maybe some baked cod, stuffies (she makes 'em stuffed with scallops, crab and the quahog meat), unreal...






Last time I was in RI, the wife's cousin had us over for lobster and steamers...steamers outta the water mebbe an hour or two. One bowl of water to rinse off the sand, then into the bowl of butter and in the mouth. Lot's o' beer.

Then we were off to 20 Water Street. I remember getting there and meeting some more locals, there were shots and then as far as memory goes...I got nuttin' after that...


piacere - 1/27/2012 at 08:10 PM

20 Water St.

yeah, nothin' better than fresh steamers or little necks...

I might send my son down to Galilee Sunday morning of the game, depending on when low tide is, I'll have to look it up on the chart, and have him dig up some soft shell clams (I won't send him into the water for little necks or quahogs, too cold)...he'll dig, like the mule that he is and the grandchildren and I will have hot soup and pretend to be helping...


michaelsio - 1/27/2012 at 08:19 PM

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OK, I think I'm going with pepperoni, goat cheese and some nice imported buffalo mozz, then prosciutto, pancetta, italian sausage, basil, provolone and mozz...gotta come up with the third, mebbe caramelized onions, mushrooms and arugula with some pecorino romano? Hmmm...


eat Italian much?


As often as I can!


From The Natural (sorry to mix baseball with football). Eating at an Italian restaurant.

Red Blow: Pretty good food, huh?
Roy Hobbs: Damn good.
Red Blow: You can't spell it, but it eats pretty good, don't it?


piacere - 1/28/2012 at 02:35 PM

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OK, I think I'm going with pepperoni, goat cheese and some nice imported buffalo mozz, then prosciutto, pancetta, italian sausage, basil, provolone and mozz...gotta come up with the third, mebbe caramelized onions, mushrooms and arugula with some pecorino romano? Hmmm...


eat Italian much?


As often as I can!


From The Natural (sorry to mix baseball with football). Eating at an Italian restaurant.

Red Blow: Pretty good food, huh?
Roy Hobbs: Damn good.
Red Blow: You can't spell it, but it eats pretty good, don't it?


heh.

you should hear some people try to pronounce my last name. It's actually pretty funny, especially over the phone. I just sit there and listen to them hack the snot out of it, stammering, fumblin' it around, making 4-5 attempts at it...I just sit there with this grin on my face in silence. Then, depending on how exasperated or genuinely defeated the person is, and whether or not he or she is worthy of my twisted humor, I'll say, "Nice tries, you done now"? "Yeah, I give up". "Tell you what, just call me Mark".


DougMacKenzie - 1/28/2012 at 03:19 PM

I hope both teams lose.


spacemonkey - 1/28/2012 at 05:31 PM

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I hope both teams lose.



This ain't a Cowboys game!


Lee - 1/29/2012 at 01:08 PM

I have no rooting interest but I did bet a buddy so I am pulling for the Giants. They are on a roll and their defense is SO much better than the Pats so I went with them.

Should be a great game.


piacere - 1/29/2012 at 04:16 PM

tough thing, being a fan of perennial winners.

I miss the old days. It was easier.

when the Celtics, Bruins, Red Sox and Patriots all were terrible, it became ingrained and post-season action was actually more enjoyable. Having no dog in the fight makes it much more fun to watch, there's nothing at stake. I really don't enjoy this at all....


piacere - 1/29/2012 at 04:24 PM

anybody hear from the rodent? I miss the dude...


spacemonkey - 1/29/2012 at 07:09 PM

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anybody hear from the rodent? I miss the dude...


he bailed after someone gave him crap for not liking the TTB.

I "see" him on facebook.


DougMacKenzie - 1/30/2012 at 12:49 AM

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anybody hear from the rodent? I miss the dude...


he bailed after someone gave him crap for not liking the TTB.

I "see" him on facebook.



Man, I hate to hear that. I miss the rat.


piacere - 1/30/2012 at 03:03 PM

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anybody hear from the rodent? I miss the dude...


he bailed after someone gave him crap for not liking the TTB.

I "see" him on facebook.



Man, I hate to hear that. I miss the rat.


me too. I hope he considers the number of people that appreciate him being around and not someone who gives him crap over TTB. Truth be told, I've never heard ONE NOTE played by the TTB. Go ahead, give me grief...see if I care.


dougrhon - 1/30/2012 at 05:31 PM

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tough thing, being a fan of perennial winners.

I miss the old days. It was easier.

when the Celtics, Bruins, Red Sox and Patriots all were terrible, it became ingrained and post-season action was actually more enjoyable. Having no dog in the fight makes it much more fun to watch, there's nothing at stake. I really don't enjoy this at all....



That's one thing we agree on. As I was watching the Giants 49ers excrutiating game last week I actually posted on Facebook 'Why do I like Sports? This is so painful." That was before the game ended of course.


Brendan - 1/30/2012 at 05:42 PM

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anybody hear from the rodent? I miss the dude...


he bailed after someone gave him crap for not liking the TTB.

I "see" him on facebook.


Unbelievable....

HEY CHUCK, you just lost a whole man's worth of weight. You're tougher and have bigger balls than anybody around here. I think you can handle a little internet criticism. Grab your balls and come back to your site.

Oh, and FVCK the Patriots.


Bhawk - 1/30/2012 at 05:51 PM

Brendan, check yer PMs.


Lee - 1/30/2012 at 11:52 PM

Calling someone out for not liking a band is as dumb as one of us doing the same about not rooting for any given sports team that one of us roots for.

Silly, in my opinion.


piacere - 1/31/2012 at 04:18 PM

GO PATRIOTS !!!!!!

Hand these suckers their walkin' papers...


DanB - 1/31/2012 at 04:33 PM


piacere - 1/31/2012 at 07:51 PM

it amazes me how many Giants fans there are now.

you're a Giants fan, right DanB?


Bhawk - 1/31/2012 at 07:58 PM

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it amazes me how many Giants fans there are now.

you're a Giants fan, right DanB?


Dude. Everybody hates the Patriots. You know this!


spacemonkey - 2/1/2012 at 01:33 AM

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it amazes me how many Giants fans there are now.

you're a Giants fan, right DanB?


Dude. Everybody hates the Patriots. You know this!


steelers fans especially


DanB - 2/1/2012 at 01:42 AM

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it amazes me how many Giants fans there are now.

you're a Giants fan, right DanB?


Dude. Everybody hates the Patriots. You know this!


steelers fans especially


hey clowns Steelers 15 Patsies 11 all time


piacere - 2/1/2012 at 02:08 PM

"all time"?

who cares?, except somebody who either looks backward or pays attention to those things.

there's here 'n' now, that's all that matters.

it'd be easy for a Patriots fan to say we're the winningest franchise in pro sports the past 10 years but that won't beat the Giants...

now siddown and watch...


Sang - 2/1/2012 at 02:12 PM

Another year of paying more attention to the commercials than the game.................... even Madonna might be more interesting......


piacere - 2/1/2012 at 02:19 PM

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it amazes me how many Giants fans there are now.

you're a Giants fan, right DanB?


Dude. Everybody hates the Patriots. You know this!


jealousy rears it's ugly head every once in a while and reveals the inner workings of a frustrated wannabe. Yes, I understand...


piacere - 2/1/2012 at 02:26 PM

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Another year of paying more attention to the commercials than the game.................... even Madonna might be more interesting......


you, Sang are a true fan of your team. I'd feel the same way if it were anybody but the Patriots playing...

but alas, we are in fact at the dance...

...again.

heh heh...

hey bedouins, every one of you knows I've been mouthin' off for 7 months now. I'm not going to stop now...


piacere - 2/1/2012 at 02:32 PM

btw...I don't "myface". Can someone please tell Chuck to get his ass back here?

Thanks a bunch...


DougMacKenzie - 2/1/2012 at 02:44 PM

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btw...I don't "myface". Can someone please tell Chuck to get his ass back here?

Thanks a bunch...

You don't tug on Superman's cape, you don't spit into the wind, and you don't "tell" Chuck anything. You ask nicely.


DougMacKenzie - 2/1/2012 at 02:45 PM

I still say Patsies, 31-23. Any other predictions?


Oh, and I remember when people used to hate the Cowboys, before they sank into being afterthoughts..........


Bhawk - 2/1/2012 at 02:47 PM

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it amazes me how many Giants fans there are now.

you're a Giants fan, right DanB?


Dude. Everybody hates the Patriots. You know this!


jealousy rears it's ugly head every once in a while and reveals the inner workings of a frustrated wannabe. Yes, I understand...


Jealousy?

No. not even close.


Bhawk - 2/1/2012 at 02:48 PM

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I still say Patsies, 31-23. Any other predictions?



Wings 24
Pizza 7


DougMacKenzie - 2/1/2012 at 02:55 PM

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I still say Patsies, 31-23. Any other predictions?



Wings 24
Pizza 7



Is that for you personally? If so, I'll take the over.


Bhawk - 2/1/2012 at 02:59 PM

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I still say Patsies, 31-23. Any other predictions?



Wings 24
Pizza 7



Is that for you personally? If so, I'll take the over.


Dude. I'm not that much of a glutton...


Bhawk - 2/1/2012 at 03:00 PM

Oh, and Patriots, 34-31 in OT


piacere - 2/1/2012 at 03:02 PM

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it amazes me how many Giants fans there are now.

you're a Giants fan, right DanB?


Dude. Everybody hates the Patriots. You know this!


jealousy rears it's ugly head every once in a while and reveals the inner workings of a frustrated wannabe. Yes, I understand...


Jealousy?

No. not even close.


hey man, I wasn't talking about you. In fact, you're the last person that'd be aimed at . Just the football world in general...


piacere - 2/1/2012 at 03:04 PM

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I still say Patsies, 31-23. Any other predictions?


Oh, and I remember when people used to hate the Cowboys, before they sank into being afterthoughts..........


I'm stickin' with my 31-27 Patriots prediction...


Bhawk - 2/1/2012 at 03:05 PM

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it amazes me how many Giants fans there are now.

you're a Giants fan, right DanB?


Dude. Everybody hates the Patriots. You know this!


jealousy rears it's ugly head every once in a while and reveals the inner workings of a frustrated wannabe. Yes, I understand...


Jealousy?

No. not even close.


hey man, I wasn't talking about you. In fact, you're the last person that'd be aimed at . Just the football world in general...


People get sick of teams that win all the time. Strange but true...


DougMacKenzie - 2/1/2012 at 03:06 PM

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I still say Patsies, 31-23. Any other predictions?



Wings 24
Pizza 7



Is that for you personally? If so, I'll take the over.


Dude. I'm not that much of a glutton...

I guess I let my own personal experience cloud my prediction.......


BIGV - 2/2/2012 at 11:31 AM

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I still say Patsies, 31-23. Any other predictions?


I predict that someone in my house will hit the mute button when half time begins
I predict the above action will be followed by my obligatory trip to the store to pick up the one item she, "needs terribly"...for the seven layer bean dip.
I predict that I will find the game on my TV no sooner than the actual Kick-off
I predict at least a 2500 calorie day

That's all I got


Lee - 2/2/2012 at 01:04 PM

I predict a lot of farting.


geordielad - 2/2/2012 at 02:06 PM

Good to see the NFL has banned "Rock and Roll Pt 2" by twice convicted pedophile Gary Glitter from being played at the Superbowl, so no payout for the POS. Time the individual teams did the same.

http://www.nme.com/news/gary-glitter/61790


DanB - 2/2/2012 at 03:07 PM

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I predict a lot of farting.


everybody wins


gondicar - 2/2/2012 at 03:13 PM

Predictions...

- Brady and Manning will both throw for over 300 yds, but Manning will be picked twice and Brady will not turn the ball over
- Gronk will catch at least 8 passes for 100+ yds and score 2 TDs
- Neither team will record more than 2 sacks
- Ocho Cinco will catch 3 passes and score 1 TD
- Nicks will be the leading receiver for NY and will score 2 TDs
- There will be at least one fumbled punt and it will be a game changer
- Neither team will rush for more than 150 total yards
- At least 65 points will be scored
- There will be no fewer than 12 camera shots of Peyton
- Halftime show will suck
- Pats win 37-34 and Tom Brady will win another SB MVP


Bhawk - 2/2/2012 at 03:21 PM

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- Ocho Cinco will catch 3 passes and score 1 TD



I would love to see that. That guy does not deserve the reputation that's been foisted on him.


pops42 - 2/2/2012 at 03:44 PM

For mr. brady, the forecast calls for PAIN, followed by whinning, fingerpointing, and excuses.



fensranger - 2/2/2012 at 09:02 PM

this is one of the quietest lead ups to a game that i can recall. Not much trash talking or any negative stories. I guess both coaches play it close to the vest. I dont see Pats having an edge except slightly at QB. If G Men play their game and dont turn over the ball, i think they will win comfortably but 7-10 points.


spacemonkey - 2/2/2012 at 10:09 PM

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For mr. brady, the forecast calls for PAIN, followed by whinning, fingerpointing, and excuses.





followed by a hot tub with his hot model girlfriend.

Make fun all you want but he was great in the last giants/pats Superbowl and just missed Randy Moss by inches on a last second bomb that would have set up a tying field goal attempt and OT. Despite the beating he took. So the Giants won that game by just inches.

I am hoping he remembers the beating he took in the last Giants/Pats Superbowl. I predict more
of the same. Tuck was the MVP of that game in my book. I hope he gets it this time.
The Giants will be using the same pass rushing 4 DE on the line. Same safeties. some new faces at cornerback. But this D is playing as well as the Superbowl Champs were.

The Giants run game is not what was then with all the changes on the line. But if they just clean up some of the missed assignments they could get that going again. The Passing blocking and the Receiving corp is as good or better. You have to give the TE edge to the Pats, but it was Ballard
that made the big plays in the Giants regular season victory at NE this year. Have the bookies
forgotten this result?

I predict another close game. Hoping the G-men can do it again.

Turn overs are the key in big games. Both teams protect the ball well.
Will there be a goat?

Lets strap up and hit em hard Giants!



[Edited on 2/3/2012 by spacemonkey]


Sang - 2/2/2012 at 10:52 PM

quote:

Turn overs are the key in big games. Both teams protect the ball well.
Will there beat a goat?







Wott does Woods have to do with this?


BIGV - 2/2/2012 at 11:00 PM

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Predictions...


- Ocho Cinco will catch 3 passes and score 1 TD


#85 will be cut before next season begins... He certainly makes my, "all talk team"


spacemonkey - 2/3/2012 at 03:48 AM

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quote:

Turn overs are the key in big games. Both teams protect the ball well.
Will there beat a goat?







Wott does Woods have to do with this?



Enough about Woods!


midnghtrdr69 - 2/3/2012 at 06:52 AM

Gotta go with the upset... Giants by 3...only thing is having already beat the Pats once, it make it very very hard to beat the Pats twice in the same season...


BIGV - 2/3/2012 at 07:53 AM

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Gotta go with the upset... Giants by 3...only thing is having already beat the Pats once, it make it very very hard to beat the Pats twice in the same season...


Agreed and good point, beat them in N.E.

This is probably just another in a long list of SB stats, but the Pats did not play a regular season game indoors. They lost a Pre-season game in Detroit by 24..... I can't help but wonder if this plays to the Giants speed at WR?... The Dome being the great equalizer...What an amazing betting dilemma, does Brady get his 4th ring?..putting him in some pretty rarefied air.....or does little brother Eli acquire one more ring than his for sure H.O.F. sibling?

I'll take the G men +3 / O-55.5


Lee - 2/3/2012 at 01:34 PM

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I'll take the G men +3 / O-55.5


It dropped to 2.5, prolly cuz of Gronkowski's injury. I still like the Giants.


emr - 2/3/2012 at 04:09 PM

To me it comes down to Gronk. The Giants greatest weakness is mid range pass coverage. If Gronk can play (effectively) I think the Patriots take it; him and Welker open up the middle of the field better than anyone. If not, I believe Mr. Brady will be spending more time on his back than a 10 dollar hooker.


DougMacKenzie - 2/4/2012 at 01:25 PM

I really think it's going to be a good one. Belicheck has known Gronk's condition for 2 weeks and has been game planning with that in mind. He ain't no fool. And I believe Conklin is as underated a head coach as there is in the league. These are two tough, talented, and tested teams. Tee it up!


Lee - 2/4/2012 at 01:26 PM

In today's Chicago Tribune they put out all those goofy Super Bowl betting lines. You can bet on:

Coin flip

Will either team score 3 unanswered times?

Will one quarter be scoreless?

Shortest successful field goal

First team to enter red zone

Highest scoring quarter of game

Last scoring play of game - TD vs FG

Buncha other ones.

And my favorite:

Any score in first 7:30 of game.


BillyEddins - 2/4/2012 at 04:59 PM

Giants 35 Pats 34.


Bhawk - 2/5/2012 at 04:04 PM

Belichick cut a guy on Super Bowl Eve.

Man. Dat's cold.


emr - 2/5/2012 at 04:29 PM

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Belichick cut a guy on Super Bowl Eve.

Man. Dat's cold.


I'm sure he has his reasons.

BTW can't believe that the beloved Tuna got cut from Hall Of Fame on the second round. Has to be a backlash for leaving town quickly at times. What a coach; what a legacy. Today's game is being coached by Tuna legacy.


piacere - 2/5/2012 at 05:10 PM

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Belichick cut a guy on Super Bowl Eve.

Man. Dat's cold.


I was just going to post..."geeze, howdya like to be Tiquan Underwood today"?

that's gotta sting...


piacere - 2/5/2012 at 05:13 PM

well, I tried putting in a good word for you roaming camel sniffers to the football gods but they've informed me it's too late.

the time is at hand. Glory returns to the rolling hills of New England later this evening.

(man, I chuck it right to the bitter end, ain't it? )


DanB - 2/5/2012 at 06:06 PM

quote:
well, I tried putting in a good word for you roaming camel sniffers to the football gods but they've informed me it's too late.

the time is at hand. Glory returns to the rolling hills of New England later this evening.

(man, I chuck it right to the bitter end, ain't it? )


do you have any more weed?


Sang - 2/5/2012 at 06:07 PM

man, I chuck it right to the bitter end, ain't it?


Whatever that means................


ScottyVII - 2/5/2012 at 08:06 PM

Cheese and Rice! Madonna at half time? Puh-leezze, I can see it now they are going to have a NASCAR pit-crew side stage so she can cut out between songs where the crew will be standing by with air-brush guns, BOTOX injectors and liposuction.

GO GIANTS!!!


DanB - 2/6/2012 at 03:23 AM

good game

Congrats Giants!!!


emr - 2/6/2012 at 03:27 AM

It was a good game, but really not that exciting of a game. Unusual for that to happen


Sang - 2/6/2012 at 03:40 AM

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why wail, worry and be weary with woe, O bedouins?

look to the northeast, O wandering camel sniffers.

PATRIOTS !!!!!!






I hope poor piacere isn't wandering the lonely hills of the northeast.........at least there aren't any high bridges there.............


Bhawk - 2/6/2012 at 03:43 AM

Lots of happy bedouins tonight!


gondicar - 2/6/2012 at 03:52 AM

Damn...very disappointed. Gotta give it up to the Gmen though, they made plays when they had to, Pats not so much.


emr - 2/6/2012 at 04:23 AM

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Damn...very disappointed. Gotta give it up to the Gmen though, they made plays when they had to, Pats not so much.




Agreed. I'm a Giant fan, but I still think it goes the other way if Gronk was healthy. I'm not even sure if a healthy Gronk doesn't get that last hail mary


dougrhon - 2/6/2012 at 04:52 AM

Well it didn't come down to who had the ball last. HOWEVER, if Brady had another timeout or 30 more seconds to work with I get very nervous. Eli and the Giants receiving core still made huge plays when they had to as they have done in all the victories this year. There may never be another year like this but that's what I said 4 years ago.


spacemonkey - 2/6/2012 at 06:05 AM

Anyone still doubt that Eli is an elite QB?




This isnt about one person, Manning insisted. This is about a team coming together.

Amen Brother


spacemonkey - 2/6/2012 at 06:26 AM

Turnovers were the difference

Brady had 2, an INT and a Intentional Grounding safety.

The Giants kept a clean sheet, Nicks coughed up a fumble but his Fullback bailed him out.




DougMacKenzie - 2/6/2012 at 12:10 PM

I really thought Eli was the difference in this game. He made some absolutely beautiful throws, and the one to get them going on that last drive was the biggest play of the game. Just an amazing throw. Eli stays so cool, then puts a knife inyour heart without barely cracking a smile. Elite? Absolutely.

I hope Mark's okay. Talk about wandering the desert, mumbling to yourself while dragging your 18-1 tee shirt around.


Eaglesgreen - 2/6/2012 at 01:15 PM

Not much of a Giants fan - can't cheer for a division rival - but got to give them credit. They had a tough road through the playoffs and passed every test. Eli is easier for me to stomach then Payton. Patriots' mistake was letting the Giants be that close at the start of the 4th quarter, knowing Eli's 4th quarter record this year. Also, Eli better get some gifts for his receivers because they are outstanding.


hastings - 2/6/2012 at 01:20 PM

GIANTS


Lee - 2/6/2012 at 01:40 PM

Great game.


Now I'm just sad football is over.


dougrhon - 2/6/2012 at 03:00 PM

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Not much of a Giants fan - can't cheer for a division rival - but got to give them credit. They had a tough road through the playoffs and passed every test. Eli is easier for me to stomach then Payton. Patriots' mistake was letting the Giants be that close at the start of the 4th quarter, knowing Eli's 4th quarter record this year. Also, Eli better get some gifts for his receivers because they are outstanding.


Apparently he took them to dinner and tricked them into warfing down extremely spicy shrimp cocktail.


fensranger - 2/6/2012 at 04:01 PM

Eli is an excellent QB. I said at end that Pats should let Giants score immediately after 2 minute warning. They waited to long and had no clock and only one timeout left. I was surprised that Belachek waited. I guess he hoped for a turnover or that if FG was 25 yards, it could be missed. I would have rather taken my chance with Brady and almost 2 minutes of clock and 2 timeouts.


gotdrumz - 2/6/2012 at 04:35 PM

My ol' lady and I made a friendly gentleman's bet on the game. If the Patriots prevailed, she'd get to videotape me washing dishes with an apron on. Needless to say, I got one hell of a hummer. Thank you Eli and team. You rock !


DanB - 2/6/2012 at 06:16 PM

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I hope Mark's okay. Talk about wandering the desert, mumbling to yourself while dragging your 18-1 tee shirt around


lmao

You have increased DougMacKenzie's karma by one point.


Sang - 2/7/2012 at 04:16 AM

I'm worried about piacere - I think he owes me some money.................how long does this wandering go on?


emr - 2/7/2012 at 04:28 AM

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I'm worried about piacere - I think he owes me some money.................how long does this wandering go on?


Not sure, but Giselle blamed his teamates and Sang


DougMacKenzie - 2/7/2012 at 01:49 PM

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I'm worried about piacere - I think he owes me some money.................how long does this wandering go on?


Not sure, but Giselle blamed his teamates and Sang

At least she got the Sang part right. As for the wandering, I don't know. Psycho chicks and camel droppings can really mess with one's sense of direction.


piacere - 2/7/2012 at 02:19 PM

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I'm worried about piacere - I think he owes me some money.................how long does this wandering go on?


Not sure, but Giselle blamed his teamates and Sang

At least she got the Sang part right. As for the wandering, I don't know. Psycho chicks and camel droppings can really mess with one's sense of direction.



listen, this is easy. First and most importantly...efffff Sang

secondly, with some playoff experience under their belts and a boatload of draft picks, two in the first round, the Patriots are going to be better next year, you desert roaming bedouins...

PATRIOTS!!!!!!!!!


DanB - 2/7/2012 at 02:30 PM

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I'm worried about piacere - I think he owes me some money.................how long does this wandering go on?


Not sure, but Giselle blamed his teamates and Sang

At least she got the Sang part right. As for the wandering, I don't know. Psycho chicks and camel droppings can really mess with one's sense of direction.



listen, this is easy. First and most importantly...efffff Sang

secondly, with some playoff experience under their belts and a boatload of draft picks, two in the first round, the Patriots are going to be better next year, you desert roaming bedouins...

PATRIOTS!!!!!!!!!


Mark I'll give you this you do keep the faith unlike some fair weather fans.

Go Steelers!!!!


DanB - 2/7/2012 at 02:31 PM

Has anyone asked Rex Ryan who the best team in NY is?


Sang - 2/7/2012 at 02:32 PM

quote:
the Patriots are going to be better next year, you desert roaming bedouins...

PATRIOTS!!!!!!!!!



So is everybody else....except maybe the Cowboys.......................


piacere - 2/7/2012 at 02:53 PM

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the Patriots are going to be better next year, you desert roaming bedouins...

PATRIOTS!!!!!!!!!



So is everybody else....except maybe the Cowboys.......................


not necessarily. Some teams make some real bad moves, either front office, coaches, trades, signings, cuts, draft picks...I'll take Bill over anybody. Plus he locked in Josh McDaniels. Watch out kids, we'll be back...


Bhawk - 2/7/2012 at 02:59 PM

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I'm worried about piacere - I think he owes me some money.................how long does this wandering go on?


Not sure, but Giselle blamed his teamates and Sang

At least she got the Sang part right. As for the wandering, I don't know. Psycho chicks and camel droppings can really mess with one's sense of direction.


She had a point...to a point.

Now, about her husband's dumbass move in the first quarter...


Bhawk - 2/7/2012 at 02:59 PM

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Plus he locked in Josh McDaniels.


Locking in the biggest tool in the league is a cause for intimidation?


DougMacKenzie - 2/7/2012 at 03:01 PM

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the Patriots are going to be better next year, you desert roaming bedouins...

PATRIOTS!!!!!!!!!



So is everybody else....except maybe the Cowboys.......................

It would be hard to get worse, but we do have Jerry Jones as a GM, so I'll admit it's possible.


spacemonkey - 2/7/2012 at 05:26 PM

Watching the Giants ticker tape parade on nfl networks

[Edited on 2/7/2012 by spacemonkey]


spacemonkey - 2/7/2012 at 08:52 PM



Strahan (Master of Ceremony) dancing Salsa with CRUZ !


gondicar - 2/7/2012 at 10:36 PM

Well, this helps take the sting out a bit

Medford native Maria Menounos, an avid Boston sports fan, made good today on her Super Bowl bet with her Extra co-host AJ Calloway and wore a Giants bikini in Times Square in New York this morning. She's pictured here with Extra host Mario Lopez:


pops42 - 2/7/2012 at 11:21 PM

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I'm worried about piacere - I think he owes me some money.................how long does this wandering go on?


Not sure, but Giselle blamed his teamates and Sang

At least she got the Sang part right. As for the wandering, I don't know. Psycho chicks and camel droppings can really mess with one's sense of direction.



listen, this is easy. First and most importantly...efffff Sang

secondly, with some playoff experience under their belts and a boatload of draft picks, two in the first round, the Patriots are going to be better next year, you desert roaming bedouins...

PATRIOTS!!!!!!!!!
go get em next year!!! patsie's!!, whoo hoo!! were #2!!!


spacemonkey - 2/8/2012 at 01:21 AM


piacere - 2/8/2012 at 01:58 PM

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I'm worried about piacere - I think he owes me some money.................how long does this wandering go on?


Not sure, but Giselle blamed his teamates and Sang

At least she got the Sang part right. As for the wandering, I don't know. Psycho chicks and camel droppings can really mess with one's sense of direction.



listen, this is easy. First and most importantly...efffff Sang

secondly, with some playoff experience under their belts and a boatload of draft picks, two in the first round, the Patriots are going to be better next year, you desert roaming bedouins...

PATRIOTS!!!!!!!!!
go get em next year!!! patsie's!!, whoo hoo!! were #2!!!


not sure which is worse, your disdain for greatness or your grammar.

Dig on the Giants, that's cool... but the fact that your team won the Super Bowl and you're STILL bangin' on the Patriots says a lot about the Patriots.


cubchubby - 2/8/2012 at 03:43 PM

It's Brady'e fault according to this Boston Globe writer ...

Not so safety call: Blame Brady for this one
A performance as bad as Tom Brady's tonight in Super Bowl XLVI deserves a lead just as lame.

Sorry, Tommy Boy, this one's on you. Your hideous performance led to the Giants' 21-17 Super Bowl title win. How embarrassing for your coach, your teammates, and your fans.

But especially for you, boy wonder. It was one thing when you led the game off with a safety, which surely put plenty of faith into the heart of Patriot Nation, but just when you have the game, just when you might be able to run off the clock, you huck the thing downfield. Yes, if Wes Welker catches that thing, you're in the clear, and fans will place the blame either way, but what happened to being safe in that situation? What happened to the Patriot Way and clock management?
What happened to you?

What an embarrassment for the Patriots organization and Bob Kraft. So now the Giants have taken Lombardi from you twice, and you haven't looked this bad in a playoff game since...well, two weeks ago against the Ravens. Maybe that moment will actually hit you as you're whittling down water slides in South America looking like Prince Valiant this spring. The Patriots haven't won a title in seven years, but even worse, they're now turning into the Buffalo Bills, with the Giants being their Cowboy daddy. That's not easy to swallow in a region where New York is regarded as highly as the menu at Beacon Hill Pub.

But, there you are, Tom. That's what you have become. Your legacy has been stamped, but you're turning your Joe Montana status into one of Jim Kelly. But, hey what you worry? There's that new mansion in the "Names" pages to deal with.

Yes, there were plenty of dropped passes to go around. Granted. But when you begin the game with such a boneheaded play, then proceed to make random mistakes, sorry, Tom, game is on you.

There was no fourth and 13 to blame Belichick for.

Welker was the closest thing to Asante, and the eeriness compared to the Tyree play will be discussed for decades to come.

Thanks for that too. Can't wait. Oh, look, another text coming in from 212...

Tom, it's not all your fault, but you're the poster boy, you had opportunities, and you failed to make them. Add to that your blunders, and it all becomes about you. You blew this Super Bowl. You denied your coach No. 4. You let down your teammates.

Eli and Peyton now have as many rings as you combined over the past five years. You haven't sniffed one in seven. How's that hit you?

Maybe it doesn't hit you as hard anymore, and maybe that's the problem.

The safety killed the Patriots. Killed them.

And there's nobody to blame but Tom Brady.

However hard it might be to swallow, the glory days are gone. Even Montana handed off to Mallett at some point, right?

http://articles.boston.com/2012-02-05/sports/31027533_1_tom-brady-wes-welke r-patriots


gondicar - 2/9/2012 at 01:42 PM

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It's Brady'e fault according to this Boston Globe writer ...

http://articles.boston.com/2012-02-05/sports/31027533_1_tom-brady-wes-welke r-patriots



Tom Brady is "an embarrassment for the Patriots organization and Bob Kraft." Ok, Eric, whatever you say. <roll eyes>


piacere - 2/9/2012 at 02:59 PM

Eric's written another article since this one. I guess he needed some time to reflect...and read his emails...


Lee - 2/9/2012 at 03:16 PM

That article is ridiculous. One of the greatest QBs ever. What a numbskull to write that.


spacemonkey - 2/9/2012 at 05:18 PM

QBs always get too much praise and too much of the blame. Goes with the territory.


Eli took a lot of the blame last year for the giants failing to make the playoffs and he did
set a team record for interceptions. But how many of those picks were because young receivers ran the wrong route? Eli made some mistakes but the young receivers were just learning how to read pro cover schemes.

Those same receivers ran the right routes this year and the Giants win the superbowl and Eli
is the MVP and the hero. But if Blackburn doesn't recover and make that interception and
Manningham that great catch, would Eli have been MVP? Every player on the field made plays for the Giants. That is why they won.


It is a team game, that you win and lose as a team. Eli to his credit has said this run was not about him but about the Giants coming together as a TEAM.

The Giants beat the Patriots, Eli didn't beat Tom.
The Giants won as a team
The Pats lost as a team.

But that doesn't sell newsprint.


spacemonkey - 2/9/2012 at 05:35 PM

I saw Tucks pregame speech to his teamates on SoundFX last night and thought it was great.

He talked about the feeling of having a superbowl ring and about teammates that didn't have a ring and how he wanted them to know the feeling as much as he wanted another. And put it on himself. Then asked his teammates that had a ring to put it on themselves And his teammates that didn't have a ring to put it on themselves. Each player giving his all for his teammate each one responsible for his effort. So they all could have that feeling.

Great Speech.

During Tucks speech at the superbowl Celebration at NYC city hall, they sang "we got a ring" and Tuck ended his speech with "I got 2"


spacemonkey - 2/9/2012 at 05:48 PM

and Manningham gave all the credit to Eli.

"that's all Eli, he is as cool as the other side of the pillow"

And Wes Welker didn't blame Brady for a high throw, he said "I make that catch all the time in practice" and took responsibility , and Brady said he would keep throwing the ball to Wes and praised him.

And that is how Couglan and Bellichek run their teams. To their credit.

You have to respect both of these teams and congratulation them for their success.

and the owners for letting the Football people run the football program unlike some other teams.

a couple of NFC east owners have not learned this lesson.




DougMacKenzie - 2/10/2012 at 12:32 AM

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and Manningham gave all the credit to Eli.

"that's all Eli, he is as cool as the other side of the pillow"

And Wes Welker didn't blame Brady for a high throw, he said "I make that catch all the time in practice" and took responsibility , and Brady said he would keep throwing the ball to Wes and praised him.

And that is how Couglan and Bellichek run their teams. To their credit.

You have to respect both of these teams and congratulation them for their success.

and the owners for letting the Football people run the football program unlike some other teams.

a couple of NFC east owners have not learned this lesson.


Great post. Amen brother.


WharfRat - 2/10/2012 at 01:16 AM

DAMN good SB I must say


DougMacKenzie - 2/10/2012 at 01:19 AM

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DAMN good SB I must say




The rat returns!


WharfRat - 2/10/2012 at 01:29 AM

Is Mark ok?


DougMacKenzie - 2/10/2012 at 02:45 AM

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Is Mark ok?

Was he ever?


WharfRat - 2/10/2012 at 02:48 AM

Good point


BIGV - 2/10/2012 at 02:59 AM

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And that is how Couglan and Bellichek run their teams. To their credit.


Amen. And you'll notice not too much was heard bellowing from the pie-hole of one, "Ocho Cinco".

His performance in the SB was equally as subtle.

Adios, Ocho.


piacere - 2/10/2012 at 02:41 PM

Chuck

brethren, have any of you bedouins taken the time to peruse the Vegas odds for SB 47, 2/3/13?

heh heh...

yes, let's move on...to New Orleans !!!!!!

PATRIOTS !!!!!!!!!!!


Sang - 2/10/2012 at 02:48 PM

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Good point




+1


Sang - 2/10/2012 at 02:49 PM

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Chuck

brethren, have any of you bedouins taken the time to peruse the Vegas odds for SB 47, 2/3/13?

heh heh...

yes, let's move on...to New Orleans !!!!!!

PATRIOTS !!!!!!!!!!!




Looks like in your aimless wandering you may have fallen and hit your head........you may want to get that checked out..............


Sang - 2/10/2012 at 02:55 PM

Besides, the world is ending 12/21/2012 - which actually has better odds of happening than the Chiefs winning the Superbowl.......


piacere - 2/10/2012 at 03:11 PM

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Besides, the world is ending 12/21/2012 - which actually has better odds of happening than the Chiefs winning the Superbowl.......


my poor niece. says I'm her "psycho uncle" (can't imagine why she'd say that...) and is turning 21 on that very day.

poor kid. the double whammy...


jim - 2/10/2012 at 03:24 PM

Great win for the Giants.

There really is something magical about Eli. He is fearless and seems to feel no pressure.

I am a Giants fan, so maybe I am imagining things, but when they first showed Tom Brady in the beginning of the game, his eyes seemed to be bugging out, almost darting around; like he was nervous, feeling the pressure. That may also be from whatever they sniff in the locker room before the game. I have actually seen Brady on the sidelines sniffing something out of a Gatordade cup. Perhaps some sort of smelling salts? I think the pressure showed, especially in the last drive. He, and the rest of the Pats, seemed tight. Eli, on the other hand, had that same look....steady as she goes.

Thought it might be appropriate to review Ernie Accorsi's scouting report of Eli Manning from Spring 2002. Good eye Ernie!!!

Wears left knee brace During pregame warmup, didn't look like he had a rocket arm As game progressed, I saw excellent arm strength under pressure and the ability to get velocity on the ball on most throws. Good deep ball range. Good touch. Good visi...on and poise.

Sees the field In shotgun on most plays and his only running option is a draw his offensive line is poor. Red-shirt freshman left tackle. Eli doesn't trust his protection. Can't. No way he can take any form of a deep drop and look downfield. With no running game (10 yards rushing the first half) and no real top receivers, he's stuck with the three-step drops and waiting til the last second to see if a receiver can get free. No tight end either. No flaring back. So he's taking some big hits. Taking them well. Carried an overmatched team entirely on his shoulders. I imagine, except for Vanderbilt, his team is overmatched in every SEC game He's big, never gets rattled. Rallied his team from a 14-3 halftime deficit basically all by himself. Led them on two successive third quarter drives to go ahead, 17-16. The first touchdown, a 40-yard streak down the left sideline, he dropped the ball over the receiver's right shoulder. Called the next touchdown pass himself, checking off to a 12-yard slant Makes a lot of decisions on play calls at the line of scrimmage, but they ask too much of him. They don't just let him play. This is a guy you should just let play When he's inaccurate, he's usually high, but rarely off target to either side Plays smart and with complete confidence. Doesn't scold his teammates, but lets them know when they line up wrong or run the wrong pattern Threw three interceptions. Two were his fault. Trying to force something both times. He could have run on one of them, a fourth down play. He has a lot to learn.

Summary: I think he's the complete package. He's not going to be a fast runner, but a little like Joe Montana, he has enough athletic ability to get out of trouble. Remember how Archie ran? In that department, Eli doesn't have the best genes, although I never timed mom Olivia in the 40. But he has a feel for the pocket. Feels the rush.

Throws the ball, takes the hit, gets right back up Has courage and poise. In my opinion, most of all, he has that quality you can't define. Call it magic. As [former Baltimore Colts defensive back] Bobby Boyd told me once about Unitas, Two things set him apart: his left testicle and his right testicle.... Peyton had much better talent around him at Tennessee. But I honestly give this guy a chance to be better than his brother. Eli doesn't get much help from the coaching staff. If he comes out early, we should move up to take him. These guys are rare, you know.

Ernie Accorsi


dougrhon - 2/10/2012 at 05:14 PM

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and Manningham gave all the credit to Eli.

"that's all Eli, he is as cool as the other side of the pillow"

And Wes Welker didn't blame Brady for a high throw, he said "I make that catch all the time in practice" and took responsibility , and Brady said he would keep throwing the ball to Wes and praised him.

And that is how Couglan and Bellichek run their teams. To their credit.

You have to respect both of these teams and congratulation them for their success.

and the owners for letting the Football people run the football program unlike some other teams.

a couple of NFC east owners have not learned this lesson.






By the way that's the greatest simile ever "cool as the other side of the pillow."


Brendan - 2/10/2012 at 05:20 PM

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There really is something magical about Eli.
When did you start getting baked so early in the morning?


dougrhon - 2/10/2012 at 05:20 PM

Good call by Ernie. You can't really scout the kind of heart and poise that our Eli obviously has. Now it seems his experience is going to enable his in-season skills to catch up to his big game play. I expect him to be among the league's top quarterbacks, statistically over the next few years which will cement his hall of fame credentials. There is no one I would rather have in a big spot right now.


WharfRat - 2/11/2012 at 12:48 AM

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Chuck

brethren, have any of you bedouins taken the time to peruse the Vegas odds for SB 47, 2/3/13?

heh heh...

yes, let's move on...to New Orleans !!!!!!

STEELERS !!!!!!!!!!!


piacere - 2/11/2012 at 04:42 PM

freakin' comical.

"Magical". "Elite".

if you guys got any more mushy and lovey dovey it'd be nauseating.

I know you probably still got sugarplums dancing around in your heads and you're waiting on the Easter bunny but "magical"? Yeah, he's a regular Peter Pan...


DanB - 2/11/2012 at 05:29 PM

well we now know why Mark didn't post here after the Super Bowl

http://www.sportsgrid.com/nfl/patriots-fans-porn-super-bowl-loss/

Patriots Fans Turned To Porn In Droves After Their Team Lost The Super Bowl
by Dan Fogarty | 11:59 am, February 8th, 2012

Youre a Patriots fan. Its February 5th, 2012, at 11 p.m., and youve just watched your team lose to the New York Giants for the second time in five years. Youve just seen Tom Bradys last-second hail mary attempt land harmlessly in the endzone, and that team from New York celebrate on a field covered in confetti again. The guests at your Super Bowl party have all filtered out of your home, but youre still sitting there in a haze of post-game disappointment. What do you do?

You look at porn. Lots and lots of porn.

According to a press release from Pornhub, there was a marked spike in web traffic from Massachusetts to porn sites following the Patriots Super Bowl 46 loss to the Giants. Via SI.coms Jimmy Traina:

According to the statisticians from PornHub, right after the heartbreaking New England loss, Massachusetts natives flocked to the site, with a 22% spike at 11PM (EST) and a 33% spike at 12AM (EST), while New York went only up 16% and 32%, respectively.

That 32% spike for New York in the 12AM hour is telling. It means they waited a little longer than New Englanders to go for the porn, but they eventually ended up there, too. Which kind of brings new gravity to the whole Are those sad tissues or happy tissues? question.


spacemonkey - 2/11/2012 at 06:59 PM

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freakin' comical.

"Magical". "Elite".

if you guys got any more mushy and lovey dovey it'd be nauseating.

I know you probably still got sugarplums dancing around in your heads and you're waiting on the Easter bunny but "magical"? Yeah, he's a regular Peter Pan...



Can't Spell "Elite" without "Eli"


BIGV - 2/11/2012 at 10:35 PM