Thread: Rolling Stones

IPowrie - 7/9/2008 at 05:31 PM

I listened to the Shine A Light Soundtrack and I dont think its any good besides the songs with Jack White and Christina Aguilara. But any way to me they sound like they r going through the motions or maybe its just me the guy that doesnt really care for the Stones. Anyway any body else not a big Stones fan or is this a crime.


KWidgeon - 7/9/2008 at 05:35 PM

Hey Isaac - you're allowed to like or dislike any music. I personally like early Rolling Stones up through let's say Let It Bleed, and then I got pretty burnt out on them. The airplay they received in the late seventies was enough to make me turn off the radio. However, I still like their music and value them as icons.


nitelite51 - 7/9/2008 at 06:11 PM

I would agree that "Shine a Light" is not a musically momentous product. The movie was a lot of fun, I thought. But I did see the Stones three times on the Bigger Bang tour. One was a stadium extravaganza in which the music took a back seat to the spectacle. The spectacle, however, was well worth seeing. The other two times were indoor venues - MGM Grand in Vegas and the Forum in LA. In Vegas they were absolutely amazing. Less so in LA but still good. I saw them in 1965 (original lineup - Brian Jones) and in 1972 (Mick Taylor) and they were tight and powerful - brilliant rock'n'roll. And, something to consider - shortly after I saw them at the Oakland Coliseum (where the Raiders and A's play) I happened to see a picture of the Stones playing the same venue in 1978. And it occurred to me - almost thirty years earlier, they played this stadium to about 50,000 people, and thirty years later they did it again. Only the Stones have been able to do that.

I know it's only rock'n'roll, but I like it.


lolasdeb - 7/9/2008 at 06:33 PM

Love the Rolling Stones since the 60's. To me Sticky Fingers, Exile on Main Street, Beggars Banquet, Let It Bleed, Some Girls, Tattoo You are classics. Have seen these guys a few times since the early 70's and have never been disappointed in a show. Like nitelite (and Mick) says - I know it's only rock'n'roll but I like it, LOVE it.

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hughduty - 7/9/2008 at 07:37 PM

bought the Shine a Light soundtrack the day it was released...dug it then,dig it now. Different strokes for different folks.


lolasdeb - 7/9/2008 at 07:39 PM

oops

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johnwott - 7/9/2008 at 09:41 PM

I love all the eras of the stones. Mick Taylor dayz being the lineup I liked the best. but Brian Jones did some
groovy work and Woody is a gas.


The break at the end of "Can't you hear me knocking" is one of the great moments of improvisational rock n roll.


matt05 - 7/9/2008 at 10:47 PM

the stones are my favorite band ever so thats my answer to any question you have about liking something they did


jimhedderman - 7/9/2008 at 11:27 PM

I have seen the stones 9 times in Atlanta. They keep pulling me back in! Sorry I missed the Shine A Light viewing at the Fox last month.


JimSheridan - 7/10/2008 at 03:03 PM

The Stones became my favorite band on the strength of the 1968-1973 run. I do love the rest of their stuff but I will not pay the price to go see them live now.

Their catalogue is so deep that even though I am sick of the Greatest Hits, they have a good 200+ songs that you never hear on the radio......


Gregallmanfan - 7/10/2008 at 03:25 PM

as Bud is to my drinking, the Stones are to my musical taste. In high school, we were almost exclusive. Later others took on
a more prominent role -- like the ABB and JD. But every couple of months I play a Stones CD or crack a cold Bud and they're as great as ever.


matt05 - 7/10/2008 at 06:04 PM

quote:
The Stones became my favorite band on the strength of the 1968-1973 run. I do love the rest of their stuff but I will not pay the price to go see them live now.

Their catalogue is so deep that even though I am sick of the Greatest Hits, they have a good 200+ songs that you never hear on the radio......


i'd actually say 90% of the good stones songs are never played on regular FM radio


lonomon - 7/10/2008 at 06:13 PM

Heard 'No Expectations' on XPN yesterday.

That was quite the surprise!


IPowrie - 7/10/2008 at 06:41 PM

Since all I really know is Radio Stones songs what r some suggestions for Non-Radio Stones songs


lolasdeb - 7/10/2008 at 07:02 PM

Can't remember if Moonlight Mile got a lot of airplay but that's one I like - kind of a dreamy vibe to it (Sticky Fingers). Love In Vain from Let it Bleed. I posted previously about some of my favorite of their albums - try seeing if you can get some YouTubes or something online from some of those to test out.


Stephen - 7/10/2008 at 07:06 PM

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i'd actually say 90% of the good stones songs are never played on regular FM radio


absolutely -- you'd have to go album by album to mention their excellent unknown stuff --
Sway -- Sticky Fingers (I LOVE this tune)
Casino Boogie, All Down The Line etc -- Exile
Coming Down Again (great Keith ballad) -- Goat's Head Soup
Time Waits For No One -- It's Only Rock N Roll (others too from this, like Fingerprint File, Short & Curlies etc)
Hand Of Fate -- Black & Blue
When The Whip Comes Down -- Some Girls
Dance -- Emotional Rescue...
and on and on -- I love the Stones


lolasdeb - 7/10/2008 at 07:09 PM

ooooo - Time Waits For No One! Good call - that's another one that can take me away.


crosstownbar - 7/10/2008 at 07:42 PM

I have always liked "Under My Thumb" ... the xylophone as
the lead instrument sounds crazy but actually works well. And
great example of '60s fuzzy bass.


matt05 - 7/10/2008 at 09:08 PM

quote:
Since all I really know is Radio Stones songs what r some suggestions for Non-Radio Stones songs


do you download or buy? if you buy get aftermath, beggars banquet-goats head soup,some girls, tattoo you and voodoo lounge. i'd say those are the essentials but my favorite album is steel wheels but its far from essential


hughduty - 7/10/2008 at 09:47 PM

agreed on "Time Waits For No One"..I've alway's felt that song has the best lead guitar solo of any Stones record... If some one is looking for essential Stones...I don't think that "Out Of Our Heads " can be over looked.A classic ,IMO....


lolasdeb - 7/10/2008 at 10:06 PM

Here's some stuff to listen to ipowrie...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ih7Vy-W-TWU&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-uusNcSp9EA&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ckPDxGb2bbk&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nmVW94UWgBg&feature=related


otherhandmer - 7/10/2008 at 11:11 PM

The Shine A Light DVD comes out on July 29th. You can pre-order throught the Stones website. $29.95 (i think)

My order is in.


JimSheridan - 7/11/2008 at 01:11 AM

IPowrie, I recommend the one-two punch of 1971's "Sticky Fingers" (on which you get "Sway," "Sister Morphine," YOu Got to Move," and "Can't you Hear Me Knocking") and the most excellent "Exile on Mainstreet," a double album that you should marinate yourself in for one full week. It is a big fat groove of an album, the soundtrack of my twenties, and you only need to deal with two radio hits as such )"Happy" and "Tumbling Dice," neither one really overplayed IMO). You can probably find them both used, and if they do not do it for you, you can safely dismiss the Stones.


IPowrie - 7/11/2008 at 04:08 AM

Deb thanks for the videos good stuff


Jhawker - 7/11/2008 at 04:11 AM

My sister is sending me "Forty Licks." Anyone have it? Is it a "Best of?"


IPowrie - 7/11/2008 at 04:17 AM

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My sister is sending me "Forty Licks." Anyone have it? Is it a "Best of?"


Its a greatest hits CD


JimSheridan - 7/11/2008 at 04:58 AM

That last video, "Love in Vain," just kills me. It is from the movie "Ladies and Gentlemen, the Rolling Stones," of their 1972 tour. It came out in the theaters but has never come out on video or DVD, alas. YouTube has some pieces of it.

Just check out Mick Taylor in that video; he does not move much (a lot like Derek, really), just stands there and gets absorbed in the music and dishes out some fat, fat vibrato. He was 23 years old at the time.

Those were great choices for songs, by the way. "Moonlight Mile" and "Time Waits for No One" are such gorgeous songs, and you never hear them on the radio.

I used to somewhat dislike the Stones, like in the early 80s. I was sick to death of their hits, and their personas on their 80s videos was not to my liking. However, in college, a good friend who was/ is a Stones fanatic got me HOOKED on all of these great songs I had never heard before, and I COMPLETELY changed my mind about them.

It also took me some time to think about music a bit differently. The Stones are all about groove and flow, where I was more a fan of virtuosity (Zepp, Cream, Rush) and drama (The Who). In an interesting way, The Stones are more like The Band.


StratDal - 7/11/2008 at 11:29 AM

Still and always the greatest Rock N' Roll band of all time. The Stones are the benchmark considering they've been together for 40+ years.


DIPASTENA - 7/11/2008 at 02:36 PM

The Stones are a great Rock n Roll Band,
Much more a fan of their studio work than their Live shows
although i sure do get psyched to see them Live,
it always seems i feel a bit let down at the shows.
so many fantastic tunes, you cannot argue with their Legacy.


IPowrie - 7/11/2008 at 03:13 PM

Does anybody have any good Stones shows from the Mick Taylor era and Cocksucker Blues DVD? Watched part of the Forty Licks Live DVD not bad but the best one has to be the show in the smaller venue.


lolasdeb - 7/11/2008 at 03:54 PM

quote:
My sister is sending me "Forty Licks." Anyone have it? Is it a "Best of?"
I have this (as well as many of the CD's where songs originally appeared) and I really like Forty Licks but I'm kind of a nut for Stones. This is good for taking along in the car and getting a real good Stones fix without having to lug 10 CD's.


lolasdeb - 7/11/2008 at 04:03 PM

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Those were great choices for songs, by the way. "Moonlight Mile" and "Time Waits for No One" are such gorgeous songs, and you never hear them on the radio
These are 2 of my favorite Stones songs. Both of them just put me in a dream state.


Gregallmanfan - 7/11/2008 at 04:41 PM

quote:
Does anybody have any good Stones shows from the Mick Taylor era and Cocksucker Blues DVD? Watched part of the Forty Licks Live DVD not bad but the best one has to be the show in the smaller venue.


If you're looking for a live tape, can't help you, but there is one live album from the Mick Taylor era - A Brussels Affair - that is excellent. I believe there is another one out there called Happy Birthday Nicky or something like it. Both were burned for me by a friend so I'm not sure of the specifics, or if the Birthday one is even Mick Taylor, but I can tell you the Midnight Rambler on Brussels is one of my all time favorite live songs. Keith cranks this awesome rhythm behind Taylor's screaming licks and Jagger is - well, he's Jagger man.

Greg


JimSheridan - 7/11/2008 at 05:53 PM

IPowrie, for videop, here are some highlights from the Taylor era:

1. The Stones in the Park - this was the first gig with Mick Taylor, in Hyde Park, London, 1969. Keith is woefully out of tune, so it is not a great gig, but it is a historic one. Filmed for TV, I think. I was officially out on video; I do not know if it ever got put out on DVD.

2. Gimme Shelter: the documentary of the Altamont festival. It alternates between being scary (Hells Angels menace and attack), boring (slow interviews), and amazing (red hot live Stones 1969). THis is available officially. Warning: the camera focuses almost exclusively on Jagger and RIchards, even during Taylor's awesome guitar solo on "Love In Vain."

3. The Stones at the Marquee - 1970 I think. This is a bootleg video, pro-shot, again for TV I think, in black and white from what I have seen. many bad 1960's "psychedelic" effects and editing but some GREAT playing. Baptism of fire for some "Sticky Fingers" songs.

4. "Ladies and Gentlemen, the Rolling Stones" - the motherlode. Released in theaters but not on video or DVD, but decent bootleg DVDs available on the Four Reel label. It is the Stones on their 1972 Exile on Main Street tour, and they really tear it up. If there is one to get, this is most definitely it. Will it ever be released for general consumption? Who knows?

5. 1972 rehearsals - about a half hour of the Stones rehearsing. Great fun, some cool jamming and doodling.

6. Cocksucker Blues - I'm not a big fan. There are some excellent pieces of live music, but a whole lotta dopey doped-up meandering too.

As for CDs, there are a ton. The official live 1969 one, "Get Your Ya-Yas Out," is great. It came out in response to a bootleg called "LiveR than you'll Ever Be," which is also awesome. The Stones had a more raw sound and were playing some songs on that tour which would get dropped for quite a while, so it is good to get a 1969 show or two in.

"Get Your Leeds Lungs Out" is a well-recorded (I think for radio) show from Leeds, England, I think 1970. Some of Sticky Fingers gets aired here.

For 1972, the Exile tour, I like "Fort Worth Express," which has some of the same show as the movie "Ladies and Gentlemen."

Two of their 1973 shows in Europe (Goat's Head Soup tour) were taped for King Biscuit Flour Hour, which I think is where Brussels Affair and Bedspring Symphony come from; the 2-CD set "Heading for an Overload" has both of these shows, which is great because they do play some different tunes. It is cool to hear some of those "Goat's Head Soup" shows live.

There are some excellent studio outtakes from that era out on boot also, but I think I have gone on long enough!!!!


IPowrie - 7/11/2008 at 11:40 PM

http://youtube.com/watch?v=KU5VQSdZoco

This is a good song


IPowrie - 7/12/2008 at 08:50 PM

I got the London Years Singles boxset from the library yesterday and listened to disc one which is pretty much pre-Satisfaction singles and I enjoyed it alot


IPowrie - 7/16/2008 at 03:03 PM

Just a heads up theres a good Stones vine going on

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RBK - 7/17/2008 at 01:34 PM

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My sister is sending me "Forty Licks." Anyone have it? Is it a "Best of?"
I have this (as well as many of the CD's where songs originally appeared) and I really like Forty Licks but I'm kind of a nut for Stones. This is good for taking along in the car and getting a real good Stones fix without having to lug 10 CD's.


"40 Licks" also has more songs and retails for about $10 less than the classic "Hot Rocks" collection and includes the best of the post 1971 era. A couple of the new tracks created for the set were a bit dodgy, all but one ("Don't Stop") having never been acknowledged by the group in concert. The two discs are not historically sequencetial though the first leans more to the sixties and the second everything since. It's an excellent starting point for a young fan interested in learning more about the Stones.


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