Thread: Elvis and Jimmy Page

jszfunk - 8/15/2007 at 11:45 PM

I had to rope you in some how. I saw this CD at the local store and started laughing. I guess it's just one of those things you had to be there or see. Seeing Elvis with a double neck, just does not look right. That guitar belongs to someone else!


becksbolero - 8/16/2007 at 12:26 AM

what - you never heard of dread zeppelin? the beginning of tortelvis.


Rob_in_NC - 8/16/2007 at 02:40 AM

i can see havin' a little fun with that guitar ... is it real?? a real model? and if so, what the heck is it (2 x 6-strings?)?

Peace.


PeterNelson - 8/16/2007 at 03:29 AM

Rob, not only is the double-neck real (and I count 6 + 6 tuning pegs for the strings, too), but even the photo is apparently real. I found this photo from the same photo shoot or movie:



I guess it's based on the Gibson SG, but in jsz's pic that lower neck sure looks little! It has as many frets as the normal upper neck, just very small scale. C'mon, E--play the big neck!

From the same site as the pic, you can read about this guy's own Epiphone double-neck and click to other pics of double-necks, all of which have 12 strings on the upper neck:
"Sometimes it's hard not to feel a bit of a jackass with this behemouth, filled with dellusions of Jimmy-Page-grandeur, daring to pretend you'll reach the heights of Howe or even McLaughlin or perhaps even (joke) ELVIS! The double-neck has always been synonymous with the ego-soaked execeses of the 1970s. So, I'm guilty, I grew up in that vile decade, and stood agog at Meister Page during Led Zeppelin's 1977 Seattle gig, longing that I would one day play such a mythical instrument."
http://www.weatherfish.com/audio/guitars.html


scotiadave - 8/16/2007 at 08:32 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aPG5ncB4zh4


Charlesinator - 8/16/2007 at 02:32 PM

That guitar along with several others from Elvis' impressive collection are on display at Graceland. That guitar (I don't know the model number) could be (maybe still?) purchased from Gibson in a variety of configurations 6 & 12 string, 6 & Bass, Bass & Mandolin (Allen Woody had one of these.) Elvis probably chose that configuration because he could play both guitar and bass as well as piano and probably several other instraments. Elvis Pressly is/was the undisputed King of Rock and Roll. The fact that he was more than just an average musician seems to be lost on alot of folks. He learned guitar from the feet Arthur "Big Boy" ("That's All Right Momma") Crudup. Elvis is/was more North Mississippi Hill Country Blues Man than anybody today, yesterday and tomorrow. Also the fact that Elvis didn't bust out any Pageian solos is probably more due to the fact that Scotty Moore and James Burton were in the band than restrictions on his talent. Also Elvis actually met the Zepmeisters if you choose to believe Richard Cole in Hammer Of The Gods. Where after exchanging karate blows with Cole then giving Cole a watch, the King and Zep parted ways best of friends. Although the King is dead, long may his memory live.

Please excuse me ... I just noticed the 6 & 6 tuning peg configuration! This would make this guitar a standard and baritone. A model which is popular among surf bands. Maybe this was during the time Elvis was making Blue Hawaii. Lol! As I have stated before ... there is a bass and six string model on display at Graceland. It wouldn't surprise me if Elvis didn't have the entire collection of Gibson doublenecks at one time.

[Edited on 8/16/2007 by Charlesinator]


DuaneAllmanFan - 8/16/2007 at 02:37 PM

That Guitar is the Gibson EDS-1275.

http://www.kellyindustries.com/guitars/gibson_sg_double_neck.html


TopDroog - 8/16/2007 at 03:14 PM

quote:

Please excuse me ... I just noticed the 6 & 6 tuning peg configuration! This would make this guitar a standard and baritone. A model which is popular among surf bands. Maybe this was during the time Elvis was making Blue Hawaii. Lol! As I have stated before ... there is a bass and six string model on display at Graceland. It wouldn't surprise me if Elvis didn't have the entire collection of Gibson doublenecks at one time.

[Edited on 8/16/2007 by Charlesinator]


A baritone, that's what I figured. I'd like to try one out one of these days. Anyone have any experience with these? What's the tuning, same as standard but an octave lower? If so, I'm surprised Metal never adopted it into its sound.

Peace.


bendaway - 8/16/2007 at 03:28 PM

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What's the tuning, same as standard but an octave lower?
The upper neck of that Gibson could just be a six string bass. Then it would normally be tuned an octave lower than a standard guitar. A true baritone electric guitar would be tuned in between a bass and a standard. Something like: BEADF#B (low to high). It is really just a matter of what size strings are on it and what notes they are tuned to.

[Edited on 8/16/2007 by bendaway]


Charlesinator - 8/16/2007 at 03:35 PM

Droogie, a baritone guitar is definately lower. I believe an octave. It is very popular in Country music. The baritone adds a definate twang factor. I wish I could think of an example. I am sure you've heard one before. I just saw an article with a surf band in Frets magazine where all the members had double necks. Most in the 6 & Baritone variety although there was a 6 & Bass I beleive. I can't remember their name. I would love to have a standard 6 & 6 double neck where I could tune one to slide and leave the other standard. If you go to the Warmoth guitar parts website, you can assemble your own. Of course when the last bell rings the grand total is way over 2 grand ... Oh well ...

Thanks bendaway for the clarification on tuning of a baritone!

[Edited on 8/16/2007 by Charlesinator]


rottinpeach - 8/16/2007 at 03:37 PM

quote:
That guitar along with several others from Elvis' impressive collection are on display at Graceland. That guitar (I don't know the model number) could be (maybe still?) purchased from Gibson in a variety of configurations 6 & 12 string, 6 & Bass, Bass & Mandolin (Allen Woody had one of these.) Elvis probably chose that configuration because he could play both guitar and bass as well as piano and probably several other instraments. Elvis Pressly is/was the undisputed King of Rock and Roll. The fact that he was more than just an average musician seems to be lost on alot of folks. He learned guitar from the feet Arthur "Big Boy" ("That's All Right Momma") Crudup. Elvis is/was more North Mississippi Hill Country Blues Man than anybody today, yesterday and tomorrow. Also the fact that Elvis didn't bust out any Pageian solos is probably more due to the fact that Scotty Moore and James Burton were in the band than restrictions on his talent. Also Elvis actually met the Zepmeisters if you choose to believe Richard Cole in Hammer Of The Gods. Where after exchanging karate blows with Cole then giving Cole a watch, the King and Zep parted ways best of friends. Although the King is dead, long may his memory live.

Please excuse me ... I just noticed the 6 & 6 tuning peg configuration! This would make this guitar a standard and baritone. A model which is popular among surf bands. Maybe this was during the time Elvis was making Blue Hawaii. Lol! As I have stated before ... there is a bass and six string model on display at Graceland. It wouldn't surprise me if Elvis didn't have the entire collection of Gibson doublenecks at one time.

[Edited on 8/16/2007 by Charlesinator]



I really enjoyed the museums at Graceland.(both sides of the road). There are some really cool stuff on display there. From his jets to his Amex card and the TV he shot a hole thru.
Even the shooting range from his back porch to the little house out beside the Col's office.
I became a bigger fan since that visit.

I even saw some Yucca Trees in the Jungle Room. My Dad imported a few trucks loads
of those trees back in the 60's. (Artificial). Though popular, I always wondered if Elvis had
gotten them from someone my Dad sold them too...........my little claim to fame Elvis-wise.


Charlesinator - 8/16/2007 at 03:52 PM

Nice one peach! Here's my Elvis story. Long ago my Dad was head of ticket sales at the Charlotte Motor Speedway when and where Elvis filmed Speedway. My father heard Elvis collected shotguns and thought Elvis may be interested in a couple of shotguns my father owned. Anyway here comes my dad strolling up to Elvis' trailer toting 2 shotguns!!! Well the Memphis Mafia wasted no time in stopping my father. After realizing that Dad was harmless, they told dad nicely that Elvis had litterally warehouses full of of every kind of gun imaginable and would probably wouldn't be interested.

[Edited on 8/16/2007 by Charlesinator]


chiliD - 8/16/2007 at 04:15 PM

Baritone's are tuned, as bendaway previously stated, a fourth lower than standard guitar tuning.


Rob_in_NC - 8/16/2007 at 04:21 PM

thanks y'all for all the info and stories - that's fantastic man !


bendaway - 8/16/2007 at 04:28 PM

quote:
It is very popular in Country music. The baritone adds a definate twang factor. I wish I could think of an example. I am sure you've heard one before.
Clint Black "Killing Time"


rottinpeach - 8/16/2007 at 04:28 PM

quote:
Nice one peach! Here's my Elvis story. Long ago my Dad was head of ticket sales at the Charlotte Motor Speedway when and where Elvis filmed Speedway. My father heard Elvis collected shotguns and thought Elvis may be interested in a couple of shotguns my father owned. Anyway here comes my dad strolling up to Elvis' trailer toting 2 shotguns!!! Well the Memphis Mafia wasted no time in stopping my father. After realizing that Dad was harmless, they told dad nicely that Elvis had litterally warehouses full of of every kind of gun imaginable and would probably wouldn't be interested.

[Edited on 8/16/2007 by Charlesinator]



I would had loved to see the look on the MM's faces when he came strolling up with those guns. Elvis should had come out and fired off a few rounds. Great story


rottinpeach - 8/16/2007 at 04:29 PM

quote:
thanks y'all for all the info and stories - that's fantastic man !



Great meeting in Charlotte Rob. I have seen you at many shows but didnt know the
connection........


fanfrom-71 - 8/16/2007 at 04:41 PM

quote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aPG5ncB4zh4
That is a hell of a line up! How come he didn't introduce Jimmy?!!


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