Thread: Donna Betts back in jail

blackey - 1/2/2018 at 01:53 AM

Just saw on the entertainment news on TV Allman Brothers Band founder Dickey Betts' wife, 62 year old Donna Betts, was arrested December 27th for violating her parole for pointing a rifle at a boat club in the waters behind her house.

Said required toxicology report show she has been consuming alcohol and illegal drugs. Judge who released her on bond required her not to drink alcohol or use illegal drugs. Deputies came to the Betts home on December 27th and made the arrest. Mrs. Betts now is behind bars with no parole allowed.

I would imagine Dickey will have to bring this situation to a resolution before he can put a band on the road. Also rather than putting Great Southern back together, I would suggest Dickey, since he said he wants to do songs by Gregg, bring in Jaimoe and try to get Chuck and Otiel and maybe Jack Pearson to play with Duane Betts. Or Warren and put Matt on the other drums and call it Dickey Betts and Friends salute Gregg Allman & The Allman Brothers. List all who are going to play in the band on the advertisements and the shows should sell out.


LeafontheWind - 1/2/2018 at 02:08 PM

Yeah this can't be good for Dickey's mental health. Very stressful situation for him I imagine.

Dickey would benefit greatly from a higher caliber backup band no doubt. But if I were Jack, Chuck etc. I would hesitate big time at the offer, I wouldn't put my reputation on the line like that. I guarantee at their age and points on career they don't need to be part of a volatile band situation.

I wish Dickey had tried a little harder in his later years, it would make a massive ABB type reunion tour so much more realistically possible.


islalala - 1/2/2018 at 08:27 PM

From the sounds of it, we should be more concerned with his wife's mental health than with Dickey's.

Distractions or not, if Dickey gets back out on the road again then surely it was all meant to happen.


Chain - 1/2/2018 at 09:48 PM

Maybe I'm wrong but I suspect Jack Pearson had enough of Dickey back when he was briefly a member of the band. I seem to recall Dickey's volume on stage in those days at least was too much for Jack and was the primary reason he left.

Again, I could be wrong.....

That said, I wish Dickey and his wife well and hope she can overcome her demons..


blackey - 1/2/2018 at 10:52 PM

Just read in a Florida paper about this. It's a bit more involved than the TV report I saw yesterday. Donna was arrested for pointing a rifle at members of a boat rowing club in the water near the Betts home in an exclusive gated community for multimillionaires. She was charged with 18 counts aggravated assault by threatening to shoot them if they got on Betts land. The club said the Betts house had been blowing loud horns, shooting guns in the air and playing an extremely loud electric guitar during their nearby outdoor activities. Mrs. Betts was arrested and bail was 180,000.00 which was paid by Dickey Betts.

In October Mrs. Betts was sentenced to 30 days in jail then release on probation. Several stipulations were required by the court including Mrs Betts not using alcohol and illegal drugs while out on probation. Mrs. Betts was subjected to a random drug and alcohol test which was positive. Deputies then arrested Mrs. Betts a second time on December 27th and returned her to jail with no bond allowed.

Yes Dickey's apparent alcohol and drug use was causing his play to become sloppy at times according to Gregg's book and Dickey's answer was to turn up the amp he was using at the time and the volume was hard on Jack's ears. Dickey was asked by the band's manager to turn down and Dickey refused so Jack quit. I didn't notice Dickey playing sloppy when Jack was in the band. The 7 or 8 Jack shows I saw, Dickey was playing great. There were no Gibson guitars on the stage ( Dickey was playing his old 56 Strat Everytime for some reason. I think Goldie was in the hall of fame in Cleveland). But Jack and Dickey were getting real close to the original line up to me. And I read Jaimoe said Jack was closer to Duane Allman on slide than anybody who had been with them. To me Dickey's play began to slip the last couple of years Warren and Allen we're in the band. In 1989 and the early 90s Dickey was stronger than Warren. Jaimoe said then that Warren was the best fit since Duane died to play with Dickey but Warren was no Betts. Listen to Betts' tone. He is a M***** F*****. I agreed. Warren was good but he wasn't as good as Dickey. Then by 1995 Warren had gotten better and Dickey had slipped. Dickey was on fire again on the shows I saw the first year Derek was in the band. He was still playing his old Strat but somehow it sounded like Dickey's tone. I don't know what happened the next year. Dickey had Goldie back but painted red. He seemed okay at the one Beacon show I saw but he was faxed. Gregg and Butch initially were going to quit. And Gregg also said if Warren hadn't come back he was still going to leave. Gregg said in his book Dickey called him after the fax and said they couldn't kick him out of his own band. Gregg said it's not your band it belongs to the all four originals and we are not going to tour with you this summer. We'll meet this fall and talk but Dickey hired a lawyer. I'm glad Gregg and Dickey had some good talks before he died. They clearly still loved each other as brothers. I'm sad that Butch got hammered twice by the IRS. With the band broke up, Butch didn't see a way to recover financially like Willie Nelson did. That and Trump being elected made him loose all hope and joy in life. So sad.


gina - 1/3/2018 at 01:17 AM

So what happens next? Does she just get a fine or does she have to do more time than what she did last time? How severe is the punishment for this sort of thing?






[Edited on 1/3/2018 by gina]


MACONMUSIC - 1/3/2018 at 01:35 AM

Ahh Geez....As bad as I'm sure everyone would love to see this man take one more good turn and go out on a high note, it just always seems like there's some kind of negative personal drama always lurking in the background with DB....I just hope he can get past it and come back out and do his legacy proud one more time, without any drama/demons/negative press like this.
People are pullin' for ya Dickey.


thetoweringfool - 1/3/2018 at 02:44 AM

That really sucks. Hard to see Dickey making a go of it with these legal troubles to deal with. I'm not an attorney, but Dickey's wife got ONE HELL of a deal w/ the initial charges she was facing. With all that goes on in the world today...that is a major league offense. She was extremely fortunate to be married to a rockstar/celebrity who people in FL and beyond hold in such reverence...not to mention being a millionaire. Just needed to keep her nose clean and actively and aggressively complete community service. Judges don't like to made to look a fool. Could be real bad...


blackey - 1/4/2018 at 03:08 PM

Read last night Donna Betts hearing on the second arrest (Dec 27) is January 12th. The judge will lean on her for using and boozing after being ordered not to partake if you want parole. I hope Dickey doesn't loose the 180 thousand dollar bail. Hopefully Dickey can pay a fine which may be steep and get his wife out of jail. It's hard to quit the booze and drugs after years of using and boozing. I'm sure she thought she could do it but it is really difficult to resist those habits.

I love Dickey Betts, his guitar style and tone which is all his own, his original music and we all know without Dickey, the Allman Brothers would have been a different band. His sound was a big part of what was the ABB.

I think Jaimoe and Chuck would play a little tour with Dickey. Otiel along with Derek and Warren wanted Dickey to come back but Dickey refused because he wanted a call from Gregg. Otiel checked with Dickey about singing Seven Turns and got an okay.

I hope Dickey gets his wife out of jail and straight and can go out one more time including Gregg's sings in the show and for that reason Jaimoe, Chuck and a few other former ABB members would make it sweet with all due respect to the last lineup of Great Southern.

Duane Betts is playing great right now and he and Devon Allman are going to do a lot of Allman Brothers flavored shows this year. I bet they will be very strong shows. Maybe those two with Jaimie, Chuck and a couple more ABB alumni could back Dickey. A short tour at places like the Beacon should sell out I think.

But if Dickey reads this, your legacy as secure and we all know what made the ABB a success and you are a big part of that and we have the records and tapes so you don't have a thing to prove anymore than BB King did when he went out and had to sit in a chair. We just want to see you play for us again. If you don't..that's okay too. I play your stuff several times a week.


BabaOrion - 1/4/2018 at 03:16 PM

I'd love nothing more than to see a "Dickey Betts & Friends" type of band, rather than a reformation of Great Southern, but I'd have to say that's not likely. As someone said earlier, I'm sure all those guys are happy he's going to get out and play again, but they've all got enough of a good thing going on their own that they don't want to deal with any potential Dickey drama.

It also may come down to cost. Dickey would have to pay guys like Jaimoe, Chuck, Jack 3x what he could pay the guys he'd been playing with in GS.


blackey - 1/4/2018 at 03:18 PM

Sorry about a few messed up words. My spell checker on this smart phone isn't worth a s***. It changes more words than it corrects. My spelling is decent. I think it quickly changes some words to what I write often. It changed JAIMOE to JAMIE above and I didn't catch it. I have a relative we call Jamie.


WaitinForRain - 1/5/2018 at 03:15 AM

Dickey is still drinking and Donna is in the jailhouse now.

Be realistic, people, the odds of Brother Betts keeping it together to pull off
some shows without a top notch group behind him are...slim.


crazyjoe - 1/5/2018 at 04:04 AM

Well, still I just can't help but feel like Dickey and Donna, we're handed a stick with two **** ty ends on the initial problem with the damn row club and all, obviously now, there are a lot of escalations and big issues...........Peace to Everybody...........joe


LeafontheWind - 1/5/2018 at 02:45 PM

quote:
Dickey is still drinking and Donna is in the jailhouse now.

Be realistic, people, the odds of Brother Betts keeping it together to pull off
some shows without a top notch group behind him are...slim.


It would be amazing if Dickey went out and just crushed every show on this tour. He would then be in a much better position to rally the other Brothers behind him for some reunion tour as suggested.

That's all it would take is one little tour to have renewed faith in Dickey. Everyone would notice the new Dickey. It seems so easy.


MACONMUSIC - 1/5/2018 at 05:25 PM

Probably the easiest way for DB to come back out and play might be to just do some select shows with Duane and Devon and their current band instead of trying to reorganize and rehearse GS or others.

From what I've heard, D & D's current band is clicking pretty good, sound good and I'm sure are obviously VERY familiar with the material, both DB's & GA's. And Dickey's presence at some of their shows would certainly increase the gate/draw possibly.

That sounds like the easiest/most logical solution for DB to me, but then again, my wife isn't sitting in jail so doing anything productive while facing those circumstances might be difficult at best.
Hope it all works out for both Dickey and his wife. His music brings a lot of joy to a lot of people.


blackey - 1/5/2018 at 06:26 PM

Gregg and Dickey were friends again before Gregg passed and Duane Betts and Devon Allman are going out next year and play a good number of shows so that is a good idea. Duane Betts and Devon Allman are playing really good right now so for Dickey to join them on select dates would assure great shows. And perhaps Jaimoe, Chuck and others who played in the ABB would join in while Dickey is on.

As to the cost of having Jack and Chuck in a band Dickey would lead, Dickey can afford them. Somehow Dickey is worth far more money than Gregg and any other band member. Last I saw any figures just after Gregg died, Gregg was worth 15 million and Dickey 40 million. I must be song writing money. Dickey wrote or co-wrote many more songs on ABB albums after Eat A Peach. In 1991 a greats hits CD came out and sold over 2 million copies. I remember Butch complaining about that release. He posted that Gregg and Dickey cleaned up. Made millions while he (Butch) got nothing. Butch said he wrote a drum part for Liz Reed but Duane sides with Dickey that is was only Dickey's song so only Dickey got the writing credit. And Butch said the entire band would take ideas Gregg and Dickey came in with and turn those ideas into the songs we hear today but other band members only got a credit on Hot Lana and Mountain Jam.


pops42 - 1/5/2018 at 06:36 PM

If he goes out with an organ grinding monkey I don't care, As long as he goes out there I will go see him.


hotlantatim - 1/5/2018 at 07:29 PM

Dickey has stayed married for decades and has lived in one place during the money making years of the 1990s. That's a good way to keep your earnings.

This latest development with Donna is sad and I hope it works out for them. It surely makes Dickey doing a tour much more complicated. I agree that dates with Devon's band would probably be the way to go if Devon was up to it (Duane Betts is not a member of Devon's band but plays with them for part of the show when Devon & Duane do shows together).


Jonesy - 1/5/2018 at 08:21 PM

It is interesting discussion about how Dickey will go about this. My instinct is that it will be Duane Betts orchestrating his return and playing a more upfront and dominant role in Dickey's comeback this year.

I would be surprised if Devon Allmans Band sees much run with Dickey; unless for some reason they want Dickey to participate in their tour together. I don't think that will happen simply because I think the young bucks need to be on their own, they are really starting to establish themselves. I have heard that he will play a select number of shows (ten has been mentioned) so I think this is a bit of a test. They'll see how it goes and determine if Dickey still has the desire, and chops to do more beyond that


MACONMUSIC - 1/5/2018 at 09:54 PM

Quote;
If he goes out with an organ grinding monkey I don't care, As long as he goes out there I will go see him.

Mmmm, that could be an interesting show, Dickey goin' back to the old "carny" days, pre-Second Coming!!


gina - 1/5/2018 at 10:10 PM

The idea of a Dickey and Friends collaboration for shows is a good idea. Whoever is available, see how they feel about it. I also want to point out that the players in Michael Allman's band do some seriously noteworthy ABB renditions, and could be asked to come out.

With regards to the rest of it, Donna needs support and help to learn how to cope with her stress. Dickey is like a trusty Timex, takes a lickin', keeps on tickin', if there are shows, he will come, play his azz off, there is no doubt about that. He is still one of the best guitarists that there has been.


cmgst34 - 1/6/2018 at 03:19 AM

Sorry to burst bubbles, but the idea of folks like Chuck and Jack and Jaimoe, is a pipe dream. Would be nice, but Dickey’s recent track record won’t engender that kind of participation.

[Edited on 1/6/2018 by cmgst34]


fsducati - 1/6/2018 at 04:45 AM

As much as I hate to say it Dickey is a SOB. Always has and always will be one. He just happens to be a great guitar player. Sorry but it is true.


emr - 1/6/2018 at 02:34 PM

But hey; as George Costanza would say "There's nothing like conjugal visit sex"


LUKE - 1/8/2018 at 01:50 AM

Not sure where all this is coming from,for Donna has been in the hospital VERY SICK.I am not going to say anymore,PERIOD!!!!


Stephen - 1/8/2018 at 02:34 AM

Oh dear -- I hope Donna quickly recovers and is home soon -- Best Wishes


The_Newt - 1/8/2018 at 11:01 AM

quote:
Sorry to burst bubbles, but the idea of folks like Chuck and Jack and Jaimoe, is a pipe dream. Would be nice, but Dickey’s recent track record won’t engender that kind of participation.

[Edited on 1/6/2018 by cmgst34]

Yeah, I think it would be cool but I don't see it happening at all.


blackey - 1/8/2018 at 12:31 PM

Chuck, Jack and Jaimoe would play on stage with Dickey again and Gregg would have too. Gregg even left space on a song on Southern Blood for Dickey to do a guitar solo but after Gregg got too sick to finish the album Don Was didn't ask Dickey. Had to piece together rehearsal vocal tracks on some tracks, bring in another background singer and leave a song off the record because there is no vocal. It amazing Gregg sounds so good on the album because he became too sick to go in and record his vocals for the final takes.

Now would they join a band Dickey would put together for extensive touring and a new album? Probably not.

I hope Donna Betts recovers quickly if she is very sick. She and Dickey put a lot of money into a big home in a gated community for wealthy people so they could relax and enjoy retirement to have that peace shattered by the near by boat/row club in Osprey, Florida.

But unfortunately for her she was arrested again for parole violation as she failed toxicology tests which we're required to assure the court she would not drink alcohol and use drugs.

I read it in the Sarasota Herald-Tribune and saw the report on WWSB ABC Channel 7.

I feel for Donna and only put this on the ABB site because Dickey had just announced on the 12th of December he was coming out of retirement and this would likely be a distraction to that. Dickey, I'm sure, is focused on caring for his wife right now.

The Sarasota County Sheriff's Office website has Donna Betts among those attested on December 26, 2017. Her case is parole violation.

And she is among the listed inmates on the website according to news reports. I just visited the Sheriff's Office website myself hoping the news reports were wrong but she is listed as an inmate arrested December 26 for parole violation.

She could be very sick too and moved to a hospital. For those here who pray, say a prayer for Donna and Dickey. We all know that without Dickey, the Allman Brothers would have been a very different band and after Duane was killed, may not have survived. We all love Dickey!!!


allmanned - 1/8/2018 at 02:32 PM

Too all the **** s that constantly bash Dickey **** You. PEOPLE that live in glass houses. Go play on facebook. When Dickey comes to play the real folks will be there. The,yll come from near and far.


The_Newt - 1/8/2018 at 06:24 PM

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Chuck, Jack and Jaimoe would play on stage with Dickey again and Gregg would have too. Gregg even left space on a song on Southern Blood for Dickey to do a guitar solo but after Gregg got too sick to finish the album Don Was didn't ask Dickey. Had to piece together rehearsal vocal tracks on some tracks, bring in another background singer and leave a song off the record because there is no vocal. It amazing Gregg sounds so good on the album because he became too sick to go in and record his vocals for the final takes.

Now would they join a band Dickey would put together for extensive touring and a new album? Probably not.

I hope Donna Betts recovers quickly if she is very sick. She and Dickey put a lot of money into a big home in a gated community for wealthy people so they could relax and enjoy retirement to have that peace shattered by the near by boat/row club in Osprey, Florida.

But unfortunately for her she was arrested again for parole violation as she failed toxicology tests which we're required to assure the court she would not drink alcohol and use drugs.

I read it in the Sarasota Herald-Tribune and saw the report on WWSB ABC Channel 7.

I feel for Donna and only put this on the ABB site because Dickey had just announced on the 12th of December he was coming out of retirement and this would likely be a distraction to that. Dickey, I'm sure, is focused on caring for his wife right now.

The Sarasota County Sheriff's Office website has Donna Betts among those attested on December 26, 2017. Her case is parole violation.

And she is among the listed inmates on the website according to news reports. I just visited the Sheriff's Office website myself hoping the news reports were wrong but she is listed as an inmate arrested December 26 for parole violation.

She could be very sick too and moved to a hospital. For those here who pray, say a prayer for Donna and Dickey. We all know that without Dickey, the Allman Brothers would have been a very different band and after Duane was killed, may not have survived. We all love Dickey!!!

I will keep Donna and Dickey in my prayers.


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