Thread: ABB and GA archives?

BigDaveOnBass - 5/30/2017 at 05:41 PM

http://www.billboard.com/articles/columns/rock/7809755/gregg-allman-brother s-manager-bert-holman-band-archives


linus - 5/30/2017 at 06:00 PM

I really wish they would release 3/25/01 the Beacon show with Warren and Chuck that convinced me they could carry on after Dickey "left"


axeman - 5/30/2017 at 07:44 PM

If that's true Gregg recorded all of his shows I'd love to hear a great recording of the BB King's NYC show he did in January of 2005 with this Robbin Ford lineup. I have a pretty nice audience, and the Ocean's Awash the Gunwhale is absolutely stellar. The funked out R&B arrangement performance of Statesborro Blues is also great. I have other shows with these songs but these performances really stand out. Would love to hear a board of these.


stormyrider - 5/30/2017 at 07:46 PM

I'm still waiting for the video release of Atlanta Pop


dzobo - 5/30/2017 at 09:02 PM

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Also on the near-term docket is a package featuring multiple shows by the original Allmans lineup at the Fillmore West in San Francisco.

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The organization also plans to release something from guitarist Jack Pearson's tenure (1997-1999) with the group. "We're trying to figure out which (show) to put out," Holman says. "We'll ask Jack for his memory, any nights that stood out in his mind as a player."

YES & YES !!!!


WarEagleRK - 5/30/2017 at 09:10 PM

I hate that it has taken such a tragedy to get this kind of discussion out there, but all eras of this band need much better live documentation and I'm so happy despite the sadness that these music releases could be in our future.


frankcolonna - 5/30/2017 at 11:21 PM

The first thing they need to do is allow electronic "trading" of the audience recordings of their shows. This has been one of the biggest mistakes this band has made. This policy has enhanced sales for every band that does it. I'm not talking about the Dead as they are a very unique entity (even though it has absolutely helped them). From Mule, to Phish, to whoever, it only helps grow the audience which, tada, helps sales of official releases. It will allow the younger generations to see what the fuss is all about. This has kept the Dead ultra relevant. It could do the same for the ABB.


The_Newt - 5/30/2017 at 11:34 PM

Gary Graff/Billboard really need to do their research, as this is not true at all.

Among those are a July 19, 2005 concert at the Warner Theatre in Earie, Pa., that like the Grateful Dead's 1977 Cornell University show, is considered by Allmans aficionados to be one of the best the group ever played.

I hope they release a soundboard of the Gregg Allman New Year's eve show at the Keswick in 2008, and a soundboard of the Allmans' 3/20/03 Beacon show.

[quote=FrankColonna]The first thing they need to do is allow electronic "trading" of the audience recordings of their shows. This has been one of the biggest mistakes this band has made. This policy has enhanced sales for every band that does it. I'm not talking about the Dead as they are a very unique entity (even though it has absolutely helped them). From Mule, to Phish, to whoever, it only helps grow the audience which, tada, helps sales of official releases. It will allow the younger generations to see what the fuss is all about. This has kept the Dead ultra relevant. It could do the same for the ABB.



Very true. A lot of the audience recorded shows and extremely old shows are, or at one time were on youtube. I understand why Butch and Gregg did not want people to electronically "trade" shows via bit torrent, etc. but this was a mistake and they should allow people to at least do this with audience recordings of their shows like the dead, mule, and lots of other bands have done for decades since bit torrent came along.

[Edited on 5/30/2017 by The_Newt]


MartinD28 - 5/30/2017 at 11:45 PM

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If that's true Gregg recorded all of his shows I'd love to hear a great recording of the BB King's NYC show he did in January of 2005 with this Robbin Ford lineup. I have a pretty nice audience, and the Ocean's Awash the Gunwhale is absolutely stellar. The funked out R&B arrangement performance of Statesborro Blues is also great. I have other shows with these songs but these performances really stand out. Would love to hear a board of these.


I've always thought Ocean's Awash The Gunwhale was a really cool song. Pretty sure the studio version was cut with Danny & Frankie Toler. Miss those guys too.

Good line in the song - "I know there's a God up in Heaven who must love rock and roll."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=83NmVDSHsCI


WaitinForRain - 5/31/2017 at 12:18 AM

"The first thing they need to do is allow electronic "trading" of the audience recordings of their shows."

those shows are already out there being traded digitally except for people lost in the paleolithic of B&P.

Only you can help yourself.


slothrop8 - 5/31/2017 at 02:08 PM

This is astonishingly good news!


The_Newt - 5/31/2017 at 02:37 PM

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"The first thing they need to do is allow electronic "trading" of the audience recordings of their shows."

those shows are already out there being traded digitally except for people lost in the paleolithic of B&P.

Only you can help yourself.

That's very true. But unfortunately you have people who convert shows that are FLAC or SHN lossless file formats into mp3.


Billastro - 5/31/2017 at 06:18 PM

No Duane, I see. Without him, none of these other recordings would ever happened. Just look at all the live shows in circulation, as well as unknowns (the Boston Tea Party gig, for example) that suddenly turned up out of the blue. Any of these could be spiffed up and made available. He was the foundation, but now....

Billastro


pops42 - 6/1/2017 at 01:49 AM

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I'm still waiting for the video release of Atlanta Pop


BarrySmith - 6/1/2017 at 12:28 PM

I hope they can finally the entire Watkins Glen show (28th July 1973). That one is my personal holy grail


hotlantatim - 6/1/2017 at 12:40 PM

I agree on the Robin Ford lineup of Gregg & Friends. He's a unique guitarist and it would definitely be something different to hear that.

The 1994 show from Alabama (forgetting the name of it) would also be good. It had all the muscle shoals guys....


nebish - 6/1/2017 at 02:13 PM

On electronic trading, it makes me think of a website for Pink Floyd yeeshkull or one of the various Dead torrent sites where multiple sources and recorders are available for any given date and members there frequently take a source and tweak and remaster it to offer it as an upgrade to share on the site. There are so many ABB recordings out there, but how well documented is the sourcing the name of the taper and equipment used? We've all enjoyed the work of some good "remasters" people have done for us. I just think it would be so cool to have a site dedicated to ABB live performances, a database of not just set lists, but one of various recordings for a specific date that everyone could share, improve and enjoy.


ABBDutchFan - 6/1/2017 at 05:32 PM

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I agree on the Robin Ford lineup of Gregg & Friends. He's a unique guitarist and it would definitely be something different to hear that.

The 1994 show from Alabama (forgetting the name of it) would also be good. It had all the muscle shoals guys....


Both would be great options for a future Gregg Allman archive release especially that Alabama show.

Here's some info:

GREGG ALLMAN AND THE ALABAMA ALLSTARS: BIRMINGHAM JAM
Sloss Furnace, Birmingham, Alabama, 10-08-1994

http://abbdiscography.duaneallman.info/cdralabamaallstars.htm


harvey - 6/1/2017 at 08:25 PM

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I agree on the Robin Ford lineup of Gregg & Friends. He's a unique guitarist and it would definitely be something different to hear that.

The 1994 show from Alabama (forgetting the name of it) would also be good. It had all the muscle shoals guys....


Both would be great options for a future Gregg Allman archive release especially that Alabama show.

Here's some info:

GREGG ALLMAN AND THE ALABAMA ALLSTARS: BIRMINGHAM JAM
Sloss Furnace, Birmingham, Alabama, 10-08-1994

http://abbdiscography.duaneallman.info/cdralabamaallstars.htm




If my memory serves me well (not always the case these days) the traded version of that Alabama show is a very good quality soundboard ... wouldn't take much cleaning up to make it commercial quality ... but with all those musicians on it I wonder about the copyright viability?


tommars - 6/1/2017 at 08:52 PM

I haven't heard the 7/19/05 show. Anyone have a review or thoughts on it. Curious to track it down.


Dan - 6/1/2017 at 10:28 PM

I just listened to that show Sunday(Birmingham)..anyone want a copy pm me.


[Edited on 6/1/2017 by Dan]


axeman - 6/1/2017 at 11:35 PM

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I agree on the Robin Ford lineup of Gregg & Friends. He's a unique guitarist and it would definitely be something different to hear that.

The 1994 show from Alabama (forgetting the name of it) would also be good. It had all the muscle shoals guys....


Both would be great options for a future Gregg Allman archive release especially that Alabama show.

Here's some info:

GREGG ALLMAN AND THE ALABAMA ALLSTARS: BIRMINGHAM JAM
Sloss Furnace, Birmingham, Alabama, 10-08-1994

http://abbdiscography.duaneallman.info/cdralabamaallstars.htm




If my memory serves me well (not always the case these days) the traded version of that Alabama show is a very good quality soundboard ... wouldn't take much cleaning up to make it commercial quality ... but with all those musicians on it I wonder about the copyright viability?



Yes. I have a great board of this show but I will bet you dollars to donuts Johnny Sandlin is likely to have an even better recording.

The Alabama Allstars show have my ABSOLUTE FAVORITE BEST OF ALL TIME performances of Can't Turn You Loose and Slip Away. The freaking NAILED these two at this show. It may have something to do with the fact that Gregg said after Slip Away, "I'll have you know, we rehearsed that one a couple of times!"


50split - 6/2/2017 at 02:48 AM

I think bert and committee should consult with dickey and jaimo on archival releases.


Stephen - 10/18/2017 at 05:21 PM

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