Thread: New Butch interview

tbomike - 4/10/2014 at 05:22 PM

He really seems like he does not want to let it go. Of course I assumed all along that was the case.

http://blogs.miaminewtimes.com/crossfade/2014/04/allman-brothers_interview_ final_tour_wanee_2014.php

[Edited on 4/10/2014 by tbomike]


mulehill2003 - 4/10/2014 at 05:39 PM

"It was sad that we had to cancel the last four shows at the Beacon because Gregg got very sick but the ten shows that we did play were some of the most fun shows I've ever played in my life." Not sure what to think of this.


mrz200 - 4/10/2014 at 05:44 PM

shot at Dickey? check.
veiled shot at Gregg? check.
general crotchety-ness? check.

I'm pretty sure I could write a Butch Trucks interview at this point.


WharfRat - 4/10/2014 at 05:45 PM

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It was sad that we had to cancel the last four shows at the Beacon


Hopefully he misspoke.

I have a feeling he didnt


dadof2 - 4/10/2014 at 06:02 PM

Reminds me of the embarrassing grumpy old uncle....comes to every family party ready to say the wrong thing to someone,anyone-or everyone!

My sweet late mom told me once that a classical musician(trouble recalling name,possibly Brahms?with a b? Whatever)...he'd walk into a party,insult numerous people and while leaving he'd say,if there's anyone I neglected to insult,my deepest apologies,and I'll see you at the next party!

But,we love him anyway...he's part of he family,the original brotherhood warts and all,IMHO.


Brock - 4/10/2014 at 06:12 PM

I may not like the gratuitous potshots at Dickey (though he at least left the name out here), but I appreciate his candor in his interviews. You know when he speaks that he is passing on what he really thinks. Beats the hell out of sugar-coating things.

I'm glad he and I are on the same page on the full-album show gimmick too.


Rusty - 4/10/2014 at 06:18 PM

"...As soon as the two of them made the announcement then Gregg said, 'Okay, then this is the end of the line for The Allman Brothers,' which he really doesn't have the power to do but whatever. ..."

Wow! The original member - the only one that bears the name - the only one who is an "Allman" "doesn't have the power" to call it a day? In my humblest opinion, the "Allman Brother's Band" sans Derek, Warren AND Gregg would basically be, "The Butch Trucks Band" (or the Jaimoe/Butch Combo)- regardless of who else they re-load with. I doubt seriously the band would or could continue in such a fashion and I laugh at Butch's insinuation that they'd do so. When it's time to go - go out gracefully!


WarEagleRK - 4/10/2014 at 06:35 PM

He never does himself any favors with his interviews.


BIGV - 4/10/2014 at 06:48 PM

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shot at Dickey? check.


"If the shoe fits"


DanB - 4/10/2014 at 07:05 PM

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"...As soon as the two of them made the announcement then Gregg said, 'Okay, then this is the end of the line for The Allman Brothers,' which he really doesn't have the power to do but whatever. ..."

Wow! The original member - the only one that bears the name - the only one who is an "Allman" "doesn't have the power" to call it a day? In my humblest opinion, the "Allman Brother's Band" sans Derek, Warren AND Gregg would basically be, "The Butch Trucks Band" (or the Jaimoe/Butch Combo)- regardless of who else they re-load with. I doubt seriously the band would or could continue in such a fashion and I laugh at Butch's insinuation that they'd do so. When it's time to go - go out gracefully!


Butch is replacing Jaimoe with Artimus Pyle


islalala - 4/10/2014 at 07:12 PM

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"...As soon as the two of them made the announcement then Gregg said, 'Okay, then this is the end of the line for The Allman Brothers,' which he really doesn't have the power to do but whatever. ..."

Wow! The original member - the only one that bears the name - the only one who is an "Allman" "doesn't have the power" to call it a day? In my humblest opinion, the "Allman Brother's Band" sans Derek, Warren AND Gregg would basically be, "The Butch Trucks Band" (or the Jaimoe/Butch Combo)- regardless of who else they re-load with. I doubt seriously the band would or could continue in such a fashion and I laugh at Butch's insinuation that they'd do so. When it's time to go - go out gracefully!


I doubt any of us know the percentages inside the management company but I, too, pray that Butch doesn't exercise voting powers to coerce the formation of some shell of a band. Although he says he doesn't want a nostalgia act, it's pretty clear he's not ready to call it quits.

And that quote you referenced above is much more than a veiled shot at Gregg as someone else alluded to. It's an MX missile and suggests Gregg doesn't hold a majority of the business.

I hope this unfolds gracefully ---- Perception-wise, there's a very thin line between the Michael Jordan who made the championship winning shot with the Bulls and the one who limped his way out of a job with the Washington Wizards....


Marley - 4/10/2014 at 07:20 PM

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"It was sad that we had to cancel the last four shows at the Beacon because Gregg got very sick but the ten shows that we did play were some of the most fun shows I've ever played in my life." Not sure what to think of this.

I'm going to vote "nothing." People are not always precise when they're speaking, and plenty of people here said cancel when they meant postpone. I would be very surprised if the band says they don't want the money from those last four shows. That's what canceling would mean.

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Wow! The original member - the only one that bears the name - the only one who is an "Allman" "doesn't have the power" to call it a day?

Butch and Jaimoe are original members, too, and like Gregg, they are partners in the band. I'm sure you don't think the Allman Brothers are Gregg's band alone. I think that's the gist of what Butch is saying here: personally and legally, this isn't Gregg's decision to make alone. Could they do it without him? No. Should he be making decisions about the band's future off the cuff and without a full consultation with everybody? No. And since communication between these guys is what it is, this is the kind of thing that happens. It's not hostile, but there's not much real planning.


stormyrider - 4/10/2014 at 07:21 PM

quote:
"It was sad that we had to cancel the last four shows at the Beacon because Gregg got very sick but the ten shows that we did play were some of the most fun shows I've ever played in my life." Not sure what to think of this.


sounds to me like he was upset they couldn't finish the run.
who wasn't upset? Doens't mean that he's mad at Gregg for getting sick.

It's clear that Butch doesn't like Dickey, and I guess if it was taken to a vote that he might have voted to continue the band w/o Warren and Derek, but I don't see anything as secret code for anything else, I don't think he says anything all that bad or earth shattering (although enough with Dickey stuff - that horse has been beaten and re beaten long after it has died) - he's just being honest.


CB - 4/10/2014 at 07:34 PM

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"It was sad that we had to cancel the last four shows at the Beacon because Gregg got very sick but the ten shows that we did play were some of the most fun shows I've ever played in my life."
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Butch played 9 shows.


nypeachhead - 4/10/2014 at 07:54 PM

Um Butch was out sick for one of those shows too, 3/11


BIGV - 4/10/2014 at 08:12 PM

Solution?

Gregg could simply invite Butch and Jaimoe to join the GAB.


CanadianMule - 4/10/2014 at 08:22 PM

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"It was sad that we had to cancel the last four shows at the Beacon because Gregg got very sick but the ten shows that we did play were some of the most fun shows I've ever played in my life." Not sure what to think of this.

I'm going to vote "nothing." People are not always precise when they're speaking, and plenty of people here said cancel when they meant postpone. I would be very surprised if the band says they don't want the money from those last four shows. That's what canceling would mean.

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Wow! The original member - the only one that bears the name - the only one who is an "Allman" "doesn't have the power" to call it a day?

Butch and Jaimoe are original members, too, and like Gregg, they are partners in the band. I'm sure you don't think the Allman Brothers are Gregg's band alone. I think that's the gist of what Butch is saying here: personally and legally, this isn't Gregg's decision to make alone. Could they do it without him? No. Should he be making decisions about the band's future off the cuff and without a full consultation with everybody? No. And since communication between these guys is what it is, this is the kind of thing that happens. It's not hostile, but there's not much real planning.


Exactly. Consulting others would be a good thing. But gregg says anything in an interview. He doesn't like them and never has. He learned all the R&R politician answers and gives them.

I said it after Derek and Warren's announcement and people got bent out of shape with emotions. understandable. But The ABB has made no comment or announcement and even if they had, they can always change their mind.

Gregg could play the Beacon with GAB or he could switch out drummers for a few weeks and do an ABB run. Far more money for the ABB. His band already plays ABB songs. The soloing cuts back a bit which Gregg wouldn't mind. Takes away the whole "who could replace them" saga. Some won't like it and will walk away as happened after Dickey's departure but the tickets will sell especially in NYC.

They will weigh all the options before acting which is probably a wise thing to do. But 3 weeks work as the ABB per year generates a rather nice pay cheque. Why walk away from that?


Rusty - 4/10/2014 at 09:05 PM

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quote:
"It was sad that we had to cancel the last four shows at the Beacon because Gregg got very sick but the ten shows that we did play were some of the most fun shows I've ever played in my life." Not sure what to think of this.

I'm going to vote "nothing." People are not always precise when they're speaking, and plenty of people here said cancel when they meant postpone. I would be very surprised if the band says they don't want the money from those last four shows. That's what canceling would mean.

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Wow! The original member - the only one that bears the name - the only one who is an "Allman" "doesn't have the power" to call it a day?

Butch and Jaimoe are original members, too, and like Gregg, they are partners in the band. I'm sure you don't think the Allman Brothers are Gregg's band alone. I think that's the gist of what Butch is saying here: personally and legally, this isn't Gregg's decision to make alone. Could they do it without him? No. Should he be making decisions about the band's future off the cuff and without a full consultation with everybody? No. And since communication between these guys is what it is, this is the kind of thing that happens. It's not hostile, but there's not much real planning.


I get all that stuff. The Allman Brother's Band (or, ABB) is also Derek and Warren's band too - at least at this point. Some folks - certain fans will argue that the "watering down process" has been in effect since Duane's death. The grumbling (among the most long-time, die-hards) got a little worse with Berry's passing and certainly got louder with Dickie's exit. As stated in so many different ways on so many other occasions, it took a while for the current version of the band (quite possibly the finest line-up of the band ever) to take with a lot of fans. A new version - new guitarists and bassist(?) with Gregg on-board will be a test to the fanbase. It's one thing to play a couple of shows billed as "The Allman Brother's Band" with Gregg out due to illness. I saw one of those shows and it was certainly acceptable. But to bill a tour or record an album billed as such without him? I've got two words: club dates.


OriginalGoober - 4/10/2014 at 09:10 PM

I dont know why more reporters dont seek Butch out for interviews. There is so much there for followups . If i was covering festivals I would try to get him to talk after each gig. As someone else said, at least he speaks his mind. i would love to hear him elaborate on how he was the Wanee brainchild or how life in the south of France is for a "redneck".

[Edited on 4/10/2014 by OriginalGoober]


RobJohnson - 4/10/2014 at 10:07 PM

This is pretty much how I expected it went down. I figured Butch would be the most reticent to let it go.

Everyone else, even Jaimoe, has another band that is a source of income except Butch. Since most humans can't tolerate being in his presence, the thought of him joining another band or restarting Frogwings or something seems like a long shot. Also, without piling on too much, let's just say Butch hasn't managed his money as well as he could have.

Butch may have a point about Gregg summarily deciding to end the ABB after Warren and Derek decided to leave, but guess what? Nobody is going to see "the Allman Brothers Band starring Butch Trucks" without Gregg Allman OR Derek OR Warren. The very idea of Butch carrying on the band without Gregg is absurd on its face.

Even though I hate the idea, I will admit CanadianMule has a point that Gregg probably COULD get away with it. However, that would require a lot more work than I think Gregg is willing to put in.

I also think CanadianMule is selling short the difference between Gregg and Friends and the Allman Brothers Band. The reason his solo band is so different in sound and tone from the ABB is that, deep down inside, Gregg isn't that into the long jams and "bombastic" solos of the ABB.

Frankly, I think Gregg is ready to be done with the whole ABB thing and focus on the music he actually enjoys playing and singing.


Marley - 4/10/2014 at 10:29 PM

A side point about Gregg announcing that the band is finished: since he will continue getting money for his songwriting and is probably a much bigger draw on his own than either of them would be. So from Butch's standpoint, Gregg may have been kind of casual in "retiring" a bunch of his income when he wasn't going to have to pay the same price. I'm sure all of these guys have enough money, but that's not the most tactful way to handle a business decision.

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I get all that stuff. The Allman Brother's Band (or, ABB) is also Derek and Warren's band too - at least at this point.

It depends on how you mean. I've said the band needs Warren and Derek and Oteil to maintain its credibility because they've been the chief reason the band is still musically interesting without new material. They're not founders of the band and I don't think they are partners in the business. (Maybe Warren is- I don't remember.) But they know their place in the history of the band and these days they talk a lot about their role in the band as an institution. To them it's Duane's band, along with the rest of the original six, and they've long said they think it's important to honor that tradition and stay true to it. They have to keep it fresh and good, but it's not theirs to reinvent. And the fact that they're leaving and we're still not REALLY sure if the band is finished does say something about who makes the biggest calls.
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Some folks - certain fans will argue that the "watering down process" has been in effect since Duane's death.

Yes, they would. The band has gone through tons of changes and everybody has their preferences. Not everybody bought into every incarnation of the band, which is their prerogative. But I think this is a bit different. They've never lost this much of the band at once, and it's never been for this reason. Other people may see it differently. Should they keep touring under the ABB name, I'll be elsewhere.

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Frankly, I think Gregg is ready to be done with the whole ABB thing and focus on the music he actually enjoys playing and singing.

I've felt for the last few years that the band is just too loud for Gregg. He can sing over his quieter ensemble, but projecting over the ABB is really too hard for him at this stage.


CanadianMule - 4/10/2014 at 10:57 PM

I fully admit that it would sound different. As I said, less bombastic solos that are 10 minutes long for starters which gregg admits to not liking much. A more song orientated band.

But each era of the band has had its' own sound. So no difference there really.


Slyckyr - 4/11/2014 at 12:00 AM

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shot at Dickey? check.
veiled shot at Gregg? check.
general crotchety-ness? check.

Shocking the "Salami Story" didn't get another re-telling.



If Butch ain't about calling it a day or being no oldies act he should get some jamband flunkies, drop those pesky oldies from the set & go out as - Brother Butch's Allnew Allman's Revue.

Setlist:

1. Blind Willie McTell (Dylan / Band cover)
2. Bag End> Bu (drum solo)> Egypt
3. Into The Mystic (Van Morrison cover)

[Edited on 4/11/2014 by Slyckyr]


MartinD28 - 4/11/2014 at 12:07 AM

Some pretty good perspective in this thread. I'll add my 2 cents.

Putting legal matters aside & the concept of founding members, Gregg is the remaining namesake and a draw unto himself. I love Jaimoe's Band musically, but I doubt they can draw or sell tickets anywhere near GAB. Gregg can and will still tour and sell decent venues. As far as Butch - he'd have to put together some sort of allstar band like Ringo does in order to draw a decent crowd. Not to diss on him, but I don't think he's really done any band projects since Frogwings. If I'm wrong, then I stand corrected.

After all that's gone down and after 40 plus years, I can't see the original 3 + whoever doing dates or a tour. There might very well be some dates with the current lineup, and it'd sell well. Beyond that Derek, Warren, and Oteil appear to have moved on. And Marc played the most recent leg of GAB tour - don't know if that'll continue, but he's a good fit, and Gregg has always enjoyed percussion in his bands.


DuaneFan56 - 4/11/2014 at 12:44 AM

More analyzing, re-analyzing and over-analyzing of a situation that's been beaten to death. Everybody here has an opinion - just like Butch. People here speak freely - just like Butch. At this point I don't care what Butch says or does, it doesn't change my opinion one bit on how I feel about him or the rest band. He doesn't like Dickey and he lets us know all the time, so what? At least he's honest and insightful. The ABB is not about relationships - at least not in the traditional sense, it's about the music. This isn't a reality show - it's about music that's real. It's not tabloids, it's tablature. Always was, always will be. God Bless Butch and Gregg and Jaimoe and all the rest of them. Play your stuff and speak your mind guys - you've earned it. It's been a fun ride, every damn bit of it. I miss it already.

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[Edited on 4/11/2014 by DuaneFan56]


Shavian - 4/11/2014 at 09:27 AM

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The ABB is not about relationships - at least not in the traditional sense, it's about the music.


Correct, which is why it seems to me to be irrelevant whether two guys are called Allman, or one, or none.

Does the fact that the band contains a guy called Allman make the music sound better? No, but it seems necessary to have someone called Allman present to validate the music for some people.

As I understand it, Duane was always reluctant to call the band ABB and that the "Brothers" part was regarded more as a brotherhood of the original six members (and roadies, I suppose).


Rusty - 4/11/2014 at 11:58 AM

Gregg might not be the instrumentalist/musician/player that his band members are, but his vocals are as much a part of the "trademark Allman Brothers sound" as Duane and Dickey's (now Warren and Derek's) guitars are. Namesake or not, if you take his vocal out of the mix (along with the name) you'll have a product quite noticeably different than the original article. Think of Yes with Trevor Horn sans Jon Anderson.

At the next stop (exit Derek and Warren) a certain number of fans will get off the bus. How many new ones will board? If Gregory leaves as well, there'll likely be plenty of seats.

Of course, Fender made guitars without Leo. We won't talk quality here.


BIGV - 4/11/2014 at 03:40 PM

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Namesake or not, if you take his vocal out of the mix (along with the name) you'll have a product quite noticeably different than the original article.


Yep. The band currently masquerading as "Lynyrd Skynyrd"...comes to mind.

Imho, NO Gregg... NO ABB.


MartinD28 - 4/11/2014 at 04:39 PM

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Namesake or not, if you take his vocal out of the mix (along with the name) you'll have a product quite noticeably different than the original article.


Yep. The band currently masquerading as "Lynyrd Skynyrd"...comes to mind.

Imho, NO Gregg... NO ABB.


Agree with both Rusty & BIGV.


Zambi - 4/11/2014 at 05:04 PM

As with any 3-person partnership/band, it typically takes 2 to make decisions except it only takes 1 to break it all up. Even easier when you're the "front man" (for lack of better term) and (remaining) namesake of the band.

In the Derek and Warren interviews that Alan Paul recently posted on Guitar World, they pretty much laid it all on Butch without saying his name. Butch was the source of the leak on Jam Cruise that forced the announcement sooner than they wanted, and everybody is on the same page that 2014 is it except for 1 person.

The band could have survived Derek's departure had Warren wanted to stay. I can think of 3 or 4 different ways that could have happened, and I think Oteil would have stuck around if Warren had and held it together. But with Warren leaving too, it sounds like Oteil & Marc are in agreement with Warren & Derek and Gregg sees it the same way. Can't see Jaimoe thinking any differently.


KCJimmy - 4/11/2014 at 05:29 PM

Alan Paul wrote this in the recent Derek interview...

"They played 10 of 14 shows before postponing the final four because Allman was unable to perform after an illness he said was bronchitis."

I almost started a new thread for this and almost didn't post it at all. There is one person on this forum that can answer a question I have... but if I were him and the answer is no then I probably wouldn't answer.

My question is, Am I reading too much in to that "he said" part? I have wondered if bronchitis was Greggs problem or something else. I hope it was really bronchitis. but why would he word it that way? He is darn fine professional writer and he has been close to and in touch to the band during the run. If WAS bronchitis then it WAS bronchitis. Why the "he said was bronchitis"?


MichaelWilliams - 4/11/2014 at 06:50 PM

I noticed exactly the same thing, KCJimmy, and it's nearly identical to the way that Allan parsed his words in One Way Out about Gregg getting clean after the 1995 Rock n Roll Hall of Fame induction.

That kind of wording strongly implies that Mr. Paul does not believe it was in fact bronchitis. I don't think you are reading too much into it at all.


absnj - 4/11/2014 at 06:51 PM

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Alan Paul wrote this in the recent Derek interview...

"They played 10 of 14 shows before postponing the final four because Allman was unable to perform after an illness he said was bronchitis."

I almost started a new thread for this and almost didn't post it at all. There is one person on this forum that can answer a question I have... but if I were him and the answer is no then I probably wouldn't answer.

My question is, Am I reading too much in to that "he said" part? I have wondered if bronchitis was Greggs problem or something else. I hope it was really bronchitis. but why would he word it that way? He is darn fine professional writer and he has been close to and in touch to the band during the run. If WAS bronchitis then it WAS bronchitis. Why the "he said was bronchitis"?


If Alan wanted to skirt the issue or was not convinced it was bronchitis, he could just have said "after an illness". He could also come back now and explain the comment away.


Marley - 4/11/2014 at 07:21 PM

That wording was impossible to ignore. I'd like to hear Alan elaborate if he thinks he can.

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I noticed exactly the same thing, KCJimmy, and it's nearly identical to the way that Allan parsed his words in One Way Out about Gregg getting clean after the 1995 Rock n Roll Hall of Fame induction.

Is that the part where he wrote 'Gregg's road to sobriety would be more complicated?' I think the cat's out of the bag on that one: later in the book there's a brief mention of Gregg going to rehab after the 2012 Beacon Run.


WharfRat - 4/11/2014 at 07:41 PM

If nothing else... the band entertains us, and not just ON the stage.

Pull up a chair and grab the popcorn!


WharfRat - 4/11/2014 at 07:43 PM

BTW

Supposedly both Gregg and Butch confirmed that the ABB is continuing beyond this year. This was mentioned at Wanee today at the book reading


Shavian - 4/11/2014 at 07:51 PM

Oh good!

Lots of European tour dates and new studio recordings to look forward to!



KCJimmy - 4/11/2014 at 08:16 PM

Greggs "Health Issues" asside. I like the idea of them continuing. Butch Suggested maybe not a 2 guitar attack but something more like the Chuck years. We beat the "who should play guitar" to death and frankly if it isn't Jack P & Jimmy I'm not for it anyway. But reworking the songs for the 1, 2, 3 punch of a guitar, piano & Sax (trumpet or any horn of choice) would be interesting and better than nothing at all.

I really think that if what ever they tried sounded like crap in rehearsal that they would just give it up rather than go out sounding like crap. That is after all one of the reasons they outsed Dickey and they said at the time if it meant ending the ABB then then they were prepared to do that.

It worked out to be the longest running version of the band to date. I'm like Derek, I would never bet against a re-grouped ABB.


absnj - 4/11/2014 at 08:34 PM

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But reworking the songs for the 1, 2, 3 punch of a guitar, piano & Sax (trumpet or any horn of choice) would be interesting and better than nothing at all.




That's where Gregg's band seems to be headed...the last time I saw them, they did One Way Out with Jay Collins and Scott Sherrard trading licks... it was very good. Gregg has talked about adding horns, and has had Jaimoe's horn players sit in a few times with a very nice result.


unclj - 4/11/2014 at 09:12 PM

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BTW

Supposedly both Gregg and Butch confirmed that the ABB is continuing beyond this year. This was mentioned at Wanee today at the book reading


Excuse the ignorance, but would that be sans Derek and Warren? Or, with them?


Marley - 4/11/2014 at 09:49 PM

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BTW

Supposedly both Gregg and Butch confirmed that the ABB is continuing beyond this year. This was mentioned at Wanee today at the book reading


Excuse the ignorance, but would that be sans Derek and Warren? Or, with them?

Derek and Warren are leaving, and they repeat that in every single interview they do. It is not up for discussion. Gregg says he'll keep going with out them. It would be a joke, but we'll see.


MartinD28 - 4/11/2014 at 10:18 PM

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BTW

Supposedly both Gregg and Butch confirmed that the ABB is continuing beyond this year. This was mentioned at Wanee today at the book reading


Excuse the ignorance, but would that be sans Derek and Warren? Or, with them?

Derek and Warren are leaving, and they repeat that in every single interview they do. It is not up for discussion. Gregg says he'll keep going with out them. It would be a joke, but we'll see.


Yep, but keep in mind that Gregg is not the best interview in town nor a great communicator. Just guessing that's not by design. Who knows what he really means. I've come to discount much of what we read in interviews or what we hear on radio, TV, etc. with & by him.

On the other hand, if they bring in the likes of Jack Pearson & Chuck, that would be awfully big, and the band could move along at a high level for a while. That's just wishful thinking on my part. However, if they do move forward after Derek & Warren without some heavy hitters, I doubt it would be a band that draws like now or carries the interest of the dedicated fan base.

I still think Gregg's future is his solo band.

Time will tell.


BIGV - 4/11/2014 at 10:30 PM

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I still think Gregg's future is his solo band.


^ This is way too logical.


Marley - 4/11/2014 at 10:31 PM

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Yep, but keep in mind that Gregg is not the best interview in town nor a great communicator.

The problem isn't just the means of communication, it's the lack of planning. But yes, he also disregards the truth in a lot of interviews.

And they're not getting Chuck and Jack. Give me a break. Chuck has a better paying gig with the Stones, who haven't been a real band in ages but do have a functioning organization, and he'd rather spend the rest of his time working on his farm and doing what he wants. Jack still has awful tinnitus, which his time in the ABB didn't help. If you want a ballpark for the type of guys they'd bring in, think Scott Sharrard and Bruce Katz. Don't expect any star players to come walking through that door. They probably wouldn't be interested and the band probably wouldn't want to shell out for them.


MartinD28 - 4/12/2014 at 12:14 AM

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Yep, but keep in mind that Gregg is not the best interview in town nor a great communicator.

The problem isn't just the means of communication, it's the lack of planning. But yes, he also disregards the truth in a lot of interviews.

And they're not getting Chuck and Jack. Give me a break. Chuck has a better paying gig with the Stones, who haven't been a real band in ages but do have a functioning organization, and he'd rather spend the rest of his time working on his farm and doing what he wants. Jack still has awful tinnitus, which his time in the ABB didn't help. If you want a ballpark for the type of guys they'd bring in, think Scott Sharrard and Bruce Katz. Don't expect any star players to come walking through that door. They probably wouldn't be interested and the band probably wouldn't want to shell out for them.


Unless you've got some inside scoop or know something, then it's all speculation of "who" or "if" they'd fill with. I guess all of us have wish lists, and we played this game on the site several months back. Quite frankly, I'll believe it when I see a tour announced with a different set of players.

Scott & Bruce are good players. Katz seems to have moved on from Gregg's band. However if it's the two of them, then isn't it kind of an extension of GAB? He's already playing more ABB material in GAB then he did in previous years.

If you look at the number of dates GAB is playing versus ABB, it seems GAB is picking up more & more dates than ABB. So whoever & if they fill with, I doubt there would be many ABB dates in a year unless something changes. That's why my thinking is that the likes of Chuck and Jack for a few dates here and there seem plausible, but that's just a theory like many others have advanced regarding the "who will it be".

Keep in mind that Gregg has a live CD coming out and "claims" he has new material to record. It would make sense he would want to tour GAB more in support of these CD's.

I said it before, and I'm sticking to my theory - the majority of Gregg's time will be GAB.


WharfRat - 4/12/2014 at 12:49 AM

Even with continuing..I think its a safe bet we will only see them doing the festivals.

Beacon could be a big question mark.

With Warren gone, do they go back to the static setlists?


BIGV - 4/12/2014 at 12:54 AM

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With Warren gone


Who else does 1/2 the singing?


phillybob - 4/12/2014 at 01:01 AM

10 minute True Gravity,20 minute Jessica, 25 minute Liz Read, 30 minute Mountain Jam. A few with very little singing 20 minute Whipping Post, 15 minute Black Hearted Woman 6 or 7 others mixed in. They can pull it off if they continue they barely play any dates now.


WharfRat - 4/12/2014 at 01:08 AM

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With Warren gone


Who else does 1/2 the singing?


Exactly


stormyrider - 4/12/2014 at 02:23 AM

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10 minute True Gravity,20 minute Jessica, 25 minute Liz Read, 30 minute Mountain Jam. A few with very little singing 20 minute Whipping Post, 15 minute Black Hearted Woman 6 or 7 others mixed in. They can pull it off if they continue they barely play any dates now.


Except that Gregg doesn't like long jams


absnj - 4/12/2014 at 02:43 AM

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With Warren gone


Who else does 1/2 the singing?


Exactly


The guy who did almost all the singing the night we saw the GAB in Stroudsburg.


manitou - 4/12/2014 at 01:35 PM

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Oh good!

Lots of European tour dates and new studio recordings to look forward to!





Yup I agree Gordon ;-)


BIGV - 4/12/2014 at 07:05 PM

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With Warren gone


Who else does 1/2 the singing?


Exactly


The guy who did almost all the singing the night we saw the GAB in Stroudsburg.


I can not help but notice that Warren is not there singing half the material at a GAB show....


MartinD28 - 4/12/2014 at 07:25 PM

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With Warren gone


Who else does 1/2 the singing?


Exactly


The guy who did almost all the singing the night we saw the GAB in Stroudsburg.


I can not help but notice that Warren is not there singing half the material at a GAB show....


Exactly.

In the last 10 or so years when I've seen GAB, Gregg did all but 2 or 3 of the lead vocals. Floyd would do those 2 to 3. I don't think Floyd did the last tour. The one concert from the tour (about 90 minutes on Youtube) Gregg did all vocals.

To the best of my knowledge even in ABB I believe Gregg does more than half the vocals. I don't think it's equally split between Gregg & Warren.


absnj - 4/13/2014 at 01:44 AM

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With Warren gone


Who else does 1/2 the singing?


Exactly


The guy who did almost all the singing the night we saw the GAB in Stroudsburg.


I can not help but notice that Warren is not there singing half the material at a GAB show....


Warren missed that night due to food poisoning. I was gonna ask for my money back, but decided to stay for the show since I travelled out of state (NJ to PA) and had to cross the Delaware River to get there.


leftyblues - 4/15/2014 at 04:42 PM

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Frankly, I think Gregg is ready to be done with the whole ABB thing and focus on the music he actually enjoys playing and singing.

I've felt for the last few years that the band is just too loud for Gregg. He can sing over his quieter ensemble, but projecting over the ABB is really too hard for him at this stage.


i think these statements are spot on


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