Thread: Oteil JusT Ripped with Zac Brown Band & David Grohl on CMAs

DerekFromCincinnati - 11/7/2013 at 03:23 AM

It wasn't country...but it did rock!@ I'm sure the video will surface soon enough...


shep66 - 11/7/2013 at 03:35 AM

Guess the rumors were true. Wonder if he'll join the band. Sure would be quite the addition to an already awesome band.


IPowrie - 11/7/2013 at 07:27 AM

Zac Brown Band w/ Dave Grohl - Day For The Dead CMA 2013
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yHsJvXb-Ado#t=63


jszfunk - 11/7/2013 at 11:35 AM

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It wasn't country...but it did rock!@ I'm sure the video will surface soon enough...


I dont think there is anything such thing called" true country music" . It's defintely not what has been spewing out of that genre for MANY years now.


Rodess - 11/7/2013 at 12:34 PM

Like !


Rusty - 11/7/2013 at 02:15 PM

Great performance. Personally, I think Chris Fryar is a better drummist than Grohl.


AlPaul - 11/7/2013 at 03:41 PM

I erally didn't enjoy ZBB at last year's Peach Fest, but I liked this a lot. Going to be very interesting to see what's next here.

[Edited on 11/7/2013 by AlPaul]


adsva - 11/7/2013 at 04:49 PM

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It wasn't country...but it did rock!@ I'm sure the video will surface soon enough...


I dont think there is anything such thing called" true country music" . It's defintely not what has been spewing out of that genre for MANY years now.


This is my idea of country music:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wqv_IOGxe0A


WarEagleRK - 11/7/2013 at 05:22 PM

Dave Grohl is apparently producing the ZBB's next album. I wonder if Oteil is playing on it?


Quinn - 11/7/2013 at 05:48 PM

thanks for the link


hotlantatim - 11/7/2013 at 09:00 PM

Yes, Oteil is playing on the next ZBB album. And there are indications he will be touring with them. Not sure if this means he is officially "joining" the ZBB or not.


WarEagleRK - 11/7/2013 at 09:08 PM

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Yes, Oteil is playing on the next ZBB album. And there are indications he will be touring with them. Not sure if this means he is officially "joining" the ZBB or not.


Since the ZBB tour a lot, I wonder what that means for Oteil's future in the ABB. I know the ABB has scaled back their touring, but next year is supposed to be a big year for the band.


brocklang - 11/7/2013 at 09:17 PM

How much does the ZBB tour compared to the TTB? The reason they gave for Oteil's departure from that band was that he was on the road too much and was ready to start a family.


allmanfan21 - 11/7/2013 at 10:13 PM

Loved the performance!! And, music has to evolve in order to survive. It doesn't sound the same forever. Country and all other forms of music evolve over time.


RobJohnson - 11/8/2013 at 12:35 AM

I'm sure all those bluegrass tunes he played in ARU were good practice for this gig

It really makes sense. Oteil is from Alabama, after all, and his bluegrass/country vocabulary is just as extensive as his blues, rock and funk palette. Maybe he just wanted a musical change of pace.

Whether you like The Zac Brown Band or not, they are one of the hardest-working groups in all of music. If Oteil does end up taking this gig, I think we can safely assume that "too much time on the road" was not the entire answer to him leaving TTB.


berkhath - 11/8/2013 at 01:37 AM

I think a potential raise, and a substantially higher touring budget might make going on the road w ZBB not quite the grind that the TTB was.

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Whether you like The Zac Brown Band or not, they are one of the hardest-working groups in all of music. If Oteil does end up taking this gig, I think we can safely assume that "too much time on the road" was not the entire answer to him leaving TTB.


shep66 - 11/8/2013 at 02:35 AM

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Loved the performance!! And, music has to evolve in order to survive. It doesn't sound the same forever. Country and all other forms of music evolve over time.


Couldn't have said it better myself. I've tried to make this point here before to no avail.

Ironically the musicians themselves are making it for us.

I'd surely enjoy today's Country to ANYTHING that is called pop music today.


RPMcMurphy - 11/8/2013 at 03:36 AM

Say whatever you want, but this is NOT country music. Not bad music, but nothing about it (besides maybe the fiddle???) is country. It is no more country than Dave Matthews Band.


jszfunk - 11/8/2013 at 01:02 PM

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Loved the performance!! And, music has to evolve in order to survive. It doesn't sound the same forever. Country and all other forms of music evolve over time.


Couldn't have said it better myself. I've tried to make this point here before to no avail.

Ironically the musicians themselves are making it for us.

I'd surely enjoy today's Country to ANYTHING that is called pop music today.


Country is pop....just with a twang and people who actually play instruments.


a_shell - 11/8/2013 at 01:27 PM

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I think a potential raise, and a substantially higher touring budget might make going on the road w ZBB not quite the grind that the TTB was.

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Whether you like The Zac Brown Band or not, they are one of the hardest-working groups in all of music. If Oteil does end up taking this gig, I think we can safely assume that "too much time on the road" was not the entire answer to him leaving TTB.



this would be my thoughts if Oteil decides to tour w/ zbb


hotlantatim - 11/8/2013 at 04:00 PM

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I think a potential raise, and a substantially higher touring budget might make going on the road w ZBB not quite the grind that the TTB was.

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Whether you like The Zac Brown Band or not, they are one of the hardest-working groups in all of music. If Oteil does end up taking this gig, I think we can safely assume that "too much time on the road" was not the entire answer to him leaving TTB.



A year ++ off the road with the TTB and also the thought of high end touring/travel (and pay) may seem more doable to Oteil. Starting a family and the grind of the road could very well have been the reasons at that time for leaving the TTB in 2012.

I'm just hoping that Oteil remains with the ABB. There is nothing stating that he isn't. The ABB commitment is a well paying one with probably 3 months commitment for 2014 (and is pretty cool one with some high profile shows/collaborations like Clapton), but I can't be the first one to have this thought cross his mind.


Zambi - 11/8/2013 at 06:00 PM

It could be as simple as what Tim says, that Oteil wanted a break, took a year off, and that's what he needed.

Also, touring with ZBB would be more similar to touring with the ABB than the TTB, or even exceeding the ABB in terms of lifestyle and amenities. Cramming 12-14 people on 2 buses as the TTB tours could get grueling after awhile.

There's a good video somewhere of an interview with Derek where he was talking about the differences in touring with his own band, the ABB, and EC's band. Something to the effect of EconoLodge, Hilton, and Four Seasons.

Besides, ZBB might just be something different to do as an interim gig for a little while. I can't imagine Oteil passing on future ABB gigs, as the ABB touring has gotten even easier with multi-night stops and quick short legs that only last a dozen shows each.


RobJohnson - 11/9/2013 at 12:51 AM

I would agree that the Allmans don't really require that much of Oteil's time any more, and hopefully he can do both.

I'm not a big Zac Brown fan, but I am a big Oteil Burbridge fan, and I'm happy he is getting the attention he deserves. I saw him play some of the best bass I've ever heard in front of 40 people for next to no money back in the ARU days. He has paid all of his dues and richly deserves such a big break.

First Jimmy gets a big gig with Panic, and now this. It makes me feel like all us ARU freaks back in the day were on to something Maybe those guys were actually as good as we thought they were!


tbomike - 11/9/2013 at 02:41 PM

Not for nothing but Oteil updated his web site tour dates and took off the dates he had originally scheduled for jam cruise. What did he not do? That is add Zac Brown band dates for the 17 shows ZBB has coming up starting next week. So it seems people are running with something here with scant information to support the idea that Otel is now a full time meber of the ZBB. Zac's bassist is now playing guitar and other instruments with them and they have been using a different bassist named Terry Miller for awhile now. Not saying I have any knowledge of what the upcoming plans are but just that people are running with info when they really have none.


hotlantatim - 11/9/2013 at 03:19 PM

I surely didn't write that I knew that Oteil has become a full time member of the ZBB. I did read "there are indications" and "if he decides" "would be" and "might just be an interim gig" as relates to Oteil touring with the ZBB in 2014. Not sure the harsh condemnation is warranted.


hotlantatim - 11/9/2013 at 03:24 PM

I should say that I wrote (and didn't just read) "there are indications" about Oteil playing with the ZBB in 2014. No surprise that he isn't playing with them on their next 17 gigs.


tbomike - 11/9/2013 at 03:30 PM

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I surely didn't write that I knew that Oteil has become a full time member of the ZBB. I did read "there are indications" and "if he decides" "would be" and "might just be an interim gig" as relates to Oteil touring with the ZBB in 2014. Not sure the harsh condemnation is warranted.


Well I certainly did not write anything with the intent of a harsh condemnation of you. Seeing Zac already has a date scheduled smack in the middle of March my intent would merely be slow down the rumor train a little. I have tix to see Zac in early December so I will see them soon enough.

I am surprised that I never had seen any discussion of the project early this year that Oteil did with Coy Bowles from ZBB, Charlie Starr from BBS, Paul Riddle of course from MTB and Benji Shanks and Barry Waldrep. Not sure if anything much will ever come of it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CcM-IUY-Bkk




BoytonBrother - 11/9/2013 at 04:07 PM

What do you think the pay is for one gig with ZBB, ABB, and TTB?


Zambi - 11/9/2013 at 09:43 PM

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What do you think the pay is for one gig with ZBB, ABB, and TTB?


I think that's a bit more complex to answer that simply. I'm sure the number of gigs with the ABB affects his compensation, but I'm 99.9% certain the ABB also has him on the equivalent of a retainer (not sure they call it that, or a salary or what). I'd bet dollars to donuts that Oteil receives what the rest of us might consider a very nice annual income if the ABB does zero gigs in a given year. If the ABB tours, he gets a lot more. No clue how the TTB pays their bandmembers, but considering they typically play smaller venues at a lower ticket price (not always) and have a dozen or so bandmembers, and Derek's prior EconoLodge comparison, I'd have to think it's quite a bit less. ZBB? Who knows. I'm sure it pays quite well, but they certainly don't have to have an Oteil playing bass for them.

I think a lot of people think Oteil with ZBB is indeed a go because some media outlets reported it before quickly yanking it. It seems like a definite but some media outlets may have reported it before they were supposed to. But a lot of future conditional tense language until it's official.


jswihart01 - 11/10/2013 at 01:46 AM

Cool. Didn't notice Oteil on the TV. He didn't get much air time but way to Go Otiel and thanks for the link.


ABBDutchFan - 11/10/2013 at 09:42 AM

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Yes, Oteil is playing on the next ZBB album. And there are indications he will be touring with them. Not sure if this means he is officially "joining" the ZBB or not.



Which indications are there? There's not a word about Oteil on the Zac Brown Band website which appears to be "up to date". Just wonderin'...


WarEagleRK - 11/10/2013 at 05:28 PM

Jambands.com posted an article a couple of weeks ago that Oteil would be touring with them. An hour or so later they removed the article. I'm guessing they released the news too early and ZBB is waiting until closer to the new album to announce it.


IPowrie - 11/10/2013 at 05:43 PM

Wonder if Oteil will be with ZBB for the New Years run. If so I might have to get tickets for the New Years Day show. Trombone Shorty is the opener and that sounds like a great night of music with or without Oteil


tbomike - 11/10/2013 at 07:28 PM

No jambands DID NOT release any such info that Oteil would be touring with Zac Brown. That is absolutely not correct. They released the letter that jamcruise sent informing people that Oteil would not be on the cruise because Oteil would be joining the ZAc Brown Band in the studio in January for the recording of a new cd. The use of the term Oteil would be joining the Zac Brown Band is what raised questions. I posted the article that day before JPB later posted the same one.

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WarEagleRK - 11/10/2013 at 08:12 PM

I'M SORRY. I must HAVE typed the WRONG word. PLEASE forgive ME.

I had studio mixed up with touring. Oops.

Why is everyone so testy on here lately?


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