Thread: Kirk West

jsdonnan - 11/18/2011 at 07:56 PM

Not trying to stir things up around here. Just curious why Kirk was let go. An honest question, if a bit naive.


Charlesinator - 11/18/2011 at 09:42 PM

Not exactly sure. I don't believe it was ever made public by either side. I could be wrong, but possibly it has blown over as Kirk I believe has been seen backstage - as a quest and not in any official capacity. I'm sure somebody knows, but they aren't saying. The ABB for all intents and purposes for the foreseeable future remains a limited (if that) touring entity. So the position of Tour Mystic on the payroll would hardly be needed. Hope this helps. I always liked Kirk and wish him the best.


spacemonkey - 11/18/2011 at 09:55 PM

My understanding is Mr West is focusing on the Big House museum now that it is up and running.

I would not read any more than that into it.


Charlesinator - 11/18/2011 at 10:03 PM

Space, I thought the Big House Museum is the reason he was terminated from the band and has no connection to the musem now either.


spacemonkey - 11/18/2011 at 10:18 PM

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Space, I thought the Big House Museum is the reason he was terminated from the band and has no connection to the musem now either.


that is news to me

wow


midnghtrdr69 - 11/18/2011 at 10:38 PM

I had heard something along the lines of Charlesinator re: big house. I've been to the Big House twice since it opened, and a young gent from the northeast has been running the house since it opened. If I heard his name, I would remember it.


Pastdreams - 11/18/2011 at 11:16 PM

That would be EJ Devoutakis (spelling may be wrong). He's doing a great job and one of these days he will put that payphone in the closet back up on the wall where Willie had it installed 40 years ago so the family could make and get phones call while they were on the road 498 days a year. He used to stack dimes on top (he thought of just about everything they'd need).
As far as Kirk goes, it was very considerate of the band and management to let him move on without making a fuss. As far as I'm concerned, it doesn't matter what he did or did not do to deserve this but he worked for them tirelessly for many years and their keeping it low key was doing him a real service. Nobody needs to have their laundry hung out to dry in the public's eye. And, I for one, am grateful for all he did for the band and for me. He and Kristen are very special people; she now has a great job at the Cox Capitol Theater and whatever Kirk is doing, I'm sure he's making a valuable contribution. He's a good man.


Brock - 11/18/2011 at 11:20 PM

I do not know what happened, but I was glad to see Kirk quoted in this article about Warren a couple weeks ago:

http://www.macon.com/2011/11/04/1770799/haynes-to-share-new-soulful-sound.h tml

As we know, he was tour mystic, not magician.


midnghtrdr69 - 11/18/2011 at 11:36 PM

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That would be EJ Devoutakis (spelling may be wrong). He's doing a great job and one of these days he will put that payphone in the closet back up on the wall where Willie had it installed 40 years ago so the family could make and get phones call while they were on the road 498 days a year. He used to stack dimes on top (he thought of just about everything they'd need).
As far as Kirk goes, it was very considerate of the band and management to let him move on without making a fuss. As far as I'm concerned, it doesn't matter what he did or did not do to deserve this but he worked for them tirelessly for many years and their keeping it low key was doing him a real service. Nobody needs to have their laundry hung out to dry in the public's eye. And, I for one, am grateful for all he did for the band and for me. He and Kristen are very special people; she now has a great job at the Cox Capitol Theater and whatever Kirk is doing, I'm sure he's making a valuable contribution. He's a good man.


That's him, and I agree he is doing a very very good job at the Big House. He was very gracious to me and treated me more as a friend as opposed to a customer.
As for Kirk, your post is great and I can only personally say "I agree with everything you said" Well stated and thanks for refreshing my memory. Peace John


dougrhon - 11/19/2011 at 04:38 AM

I enjoyed seeing Kirk announce the Mule last New Year's run as he used to do in the good old days.


Ed - 11/19/2011 at 01:32 PM

I heard it was Gregg who had something to do with Kirk being fired. If not for Kirk who knows what would have happened to the big house. He and his lovely wife bought the house and lived there many years. It was so cool in the earlier days at the Big House to visit and chat with Kirk he just loved talking about the Brothers and music in general. He is missed on tour.You could always see him wondering around back stage at the shows. he was a fixture..
Ed


das814 - 11/19/2011 at 01:40 PM



Thanks Pastdreams...you said it well.


Jack_Frost - 11/19/2011 at 03:09 PM

Kirk is a really good guy; he made sure I got a backstage pass in 1993 when Hittin' The Note was still a newsletter and not yet a magazine. And ya just can't thank a guy enough for that. Met him at the Big House in 1996 and made sure I thanked him too. Really good guy, really good photographer. Ya won't ever hear me say anything other than nice about Kirk West.


bird72 - 11/19/2011 at 03:55 PM

If you take in the Allman world past the music through the 90's on, it seems to me they are a pretty private band. That is great on one hand and also leaves people on the outside to fill in the missing blanks. We see the bits and pieces that appear above the surface, a small part. Add in back stage psst, psst, and friends of the band, psst, psst, and some nice twists ensue. And everyone has their vested interest in hand, even down to this level, no matter how small it is. What stands out is stuff happens in cloaked secrecy, and then looks to us as "heavy handed". Maybe it wasn't. Who knows? Not us. But there has been plenty to ponder on, roadies leaving, Dickey of course, guitarists in flux after Dickey, resurfaces of past fueds (RD and BT) here in print.... add in the management that does not want a dialoge with the fan base, (show dates found out on other web sites first) and it fuels threads like this.

Did I answer? My answer: It is probably something you will never really know. Kirk seemed very cool to me, althought he always seemed part human, part elfin hobbit to me


robslob - 11/19/2011 at 04:03 PM

I am by no means an insider, nor privy to any inside information. But from what I understand Kirk is still in charge of the archives, this coming from someone who knows Kirk. Apparently he was relieved of his "tour manager" duties. As others have said, no one really knows why. I'm glad he's still involved with the band because I don't think there's really been anyone else who has cared enough to store and make available the archive shows that many of us have enjoyed. Only someone who cared about the band very deeply would have gone to all the trouble he has. Whatever the reason Kirk was "demoted", he still deserves a special place in ABB land. As far as the demotion goes........I say those like myself who do not know should not speak.

[Edited on 11/19/2011 by robslob]


dadof2 - 11/19/2011 at 04:14 PM

I like Kirk and we had a couple nice conversations,but i've been hesitant to contact him thinking he may feel I'm intruding on his personal business...may be worth it since he's a guy I got on with nicely...hope he won't get pissed,but I would like to know he is doing ok....thanks for this thread...I guess I'm a bit ashamed i needed this reminder to do the right thing....


So I'm so happy I called him...he sounds good and it was great to speak again..he was not pissed I called..the opposite,he was very gracious...a good man....

[Edited on 11/19/2011 by dadof2]


BigDaveOnBass - 11/19/2011 at 05:23 PM

It's E.J. Devokatis (pronounced Dee-vo-kay-tis) who is the current Big House Museum curator and archivist. E.J. toured with Gov't Mule as a roadie for years, was and still is very close to those boys. You won't meet a finer fella than E.J.

If you go back and look at the liner notes on the Dreams box set, you'll see Kirk listed as "Associate Producer." Kirk worked tirelessly for years to keep the ABB musical and historical vision alive. Without Kirk and Kirsten, there would be no Big House Museum. Kirk was also instrumental is building Hittin' The Note from a newsletter to a quarterly magazine and official ABB merchandiser. He is still a regular contributor to the magazine with his photo journal essays of historical blues locations and performers.

Whatever transpired between ABB and Kirk doesn't change his contributions to our community. I'm proud to know him and always enjoy seeing him in Macon.


robslob - 11/19/2011 at 05:34 PM

I think I've met E.J., Dave. My brother used to play guitar for Alanis Morissette and maybe ten years ago he introduced me to a guy named E. J. who basically was a "runner" for Alanis but was way involved in the ABB circle even then. I"m going to check with my bro and see for sure if it's the same guy.


leftyblues - 11/19/2011 at 08:54 PM

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I think I've met E.J., Dave. My brother used to play guitar for Alanis Morissette and maybe ten years ago he introduced me to a guy named E. J. who basically was a "runner" for Alanis but was way involved in the ABB circle even then. I"m going to check with my bro and see for sure if it's the same guy.

it is...

As for Kirk, all i can say is he someone i am honored to have as freind..
He opened his doors long befroe anybody said "museum" to all kinds of us , at all hours of the day and night , often with no notice.
He knew that incredible way this band reached into our souls and I think he took real joy in sharing that with the fans whenever he could.
As Dave said, he and Kirsten provided so much to so many and through thier vision, they continue to.
As a musician, he allowed me to be a tiny part of something so powerful, that literally changed the course of my life for the better.

Kirk could call me anytime, anywhere and I would be there for him...


Pastdreams - 11/19/2011 at 09:32 PM

Kirk was and is an incredible archivist. When doing some photo research, I had the privilege of visiting the attic room at the Big House (it used to be the party room; can you imagine them getting a full size pool table up those steps?)
Anyway, at that time (and maybe still) there was metal shelving as far as the eye could see (it's a big space) filled with tapes of all forms, photos, magazines; you name it, he had it. He came to Macon as a fan and bought the Big House and lived there for many years with his wife, Kirsten. They were always pretty gracious about letting total strangers come into their home as long as you didn't let the dogs escape through the front door. And it was a comfortable home, too; not the polished, snazzy place it is now. I kinda liked it that way; it was still a home, not a museum. Ah, so much for progress.
He once told me that he "loved The Allman Brothers Band almost as much as his wife and two of his three dogs". I loved that about him.


Charlesinator - 11/20/2011 at 01:16 AM

To be perfectly honest Kirk was the only guy for most of us that allowed us to believe that the ABB cared as much about us as we did them.


bigann - 11/20/2011 at 02:37 AM

I don't miss all the behind the scenes drama involving KW. Interesting to know he's still involved with the ABB in some way.


bluedad - 11/20/2011 at 04:27 AM

Kirk has always treated me like a brother no matter where I saw him.....

And he opened up the Big House to people like me before it was a museum. Tons of people and he and Kirsten always did it with a smile.

I doubt any other other band has had a conduit to their fans like Kirk....

And I LOVE him and Kirsten to death.....


phillybob - 11/20/2011 at 05:13 AM

Kirk is/was the man nice as can be. Not suprising Bigann would try and take a dump on the thread.


bigann - 11/20/2011 at 05:27 AM

Really? I didn't say one negative thing about KW. Interesting that you read more into my statement than what I said.


skyponydogboy - 11/20/2011 at 04:35 PM

some people quick to judge, pass opinions on things they dont know.


[Edited on 11/20/2011 by skyponydogboy]


gapeach69 - 11/21/2011 at 02:42 PM

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I think I've met E.J., Dave. My brother used to play guitar for Alanis Morissette and maybe ten years ago he introduced me to a guy named E. J. who basically was a "runner" for Alanis but was way involved in the ABB circle even then. I"m going to check with my bro and see for sure if it's the same guy.


Yes as Big Dave said, it is the same person, he toured with Alanis and was her personal assistant and dear friend for a few years. He has been a life long fan of the ABB and has been with the band in one capacity or another since he was 19. He is a dear friend and a wonderful man. He is in charge of the museum now and the only person who is in charge of those Archives. He is one of the most honorable and trustworthy men that you will ever meet. And just like the rest of us, loves the ABB down to his very core...... and he's a walking encyclopedia for the ABB and their history...all the way back to everyones history before 1969. Amazing person, amazing friend and will do an amazing job. Kirk will tell you that himself, he loves E.J.

I agree nobody's dirty laundry needs to be hung out to dry...if either party wanted to clarify what happened they would have done so by now.......

[Edited on 11/21/2011 by gapeach69]


Pastdreams - 11/21/2011 at 09:25 PM

Marci, What about that phone, sister? Tell EJ to consider it and take him to the page in Willie's book that talks about it. The picture of BO and Brittany on the steps is nice but it could be put anywhere near the staircase. The phone is part of their bare bones history. Yeah, use that phrase, "bare bones history". LOL.


gapeach69 - 11/21/2011 at 09:44 PM

Oh he's read Willie's book and knows and loves Willie very much Lizzie.....I promise he knows about the phone story. You dont remember me going back to the closet and looking the phone over again and telling you its not the same phone?? The phone up under the stairs is an OLD phone like one of those from "The Waltons" but you mount it on the wall...it looks like a big wooden box. LOL. Actually I didnt see it last time I was there and changed out a DVD. But its not the payphone.


Pastdreams - 11/22/2011 at 02:41 PM

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Oh he's read Willie's book and knows and loves Willie very much Lizzie.....I promise he knows about the phone story. You dont remember me going back to the closet and looking the phone over again and telling you its not the same phone?? The phone up under the stairs is an OLD phone like one of those from "The Waltons" but you mount it on the wall...it looks like a big wooden box. LOL. Actually I didnt see it last time I was there and changed out a DVD. But its not the payphone.


Wonder what happened to "the phone". Next time you see Mr. Perkins at the BH, show him the phones - sure he'll remember what "the phone" looked like.


gapeach69 - 11/22/2011 at 07:01 PM

I saw him sunday at The Park, he came and sat with Judi and I and the rest of the gang for just a little while then zipped out of there........Had I thought of it I would have asked him then, he's always so quiet I usually dont bother him. Just being there with he and Judi to celebrate Skydog's birthday was enough for me........

And I imagine that payphone went back to the phone company when Big Linda left, I'm pretty sure the next occupants didnt keep it....can you imagine coming to look at that big beautiful mansion to buy/rent it and the Allman Brothers Payphone hanging on the side of the stairs......too funny.

Although that would be a great piece of ABB history to own......just like the ironing board that has Gregg's lyrics written on it because he couldnt find any paper.......


funkyfan - 11/22/2011 at 08:03 PM

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Although that would be a great piece of ABB history to own......just like the ironing board that has Gregg's lyrics written on it because he couldnt find any paper.......


I hate it when I can't find any papers.


kellyjag10 - 2/20/2018 at 10:06 PM

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Not trying to stir things up around here. Just curious why Kirk was let go. An honest question, if a bit naive.


kellyjag10 - 2/20/2018 at 10:09 PM

I read that Gregory fired Kirk West because he sold something of Duane's which wasn't his to sell. It doesn't surprise me.


The_Newt - 2/21/2018 at 04:12 AM

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I read that Gregory fired Kirk West because he sold something of Duane's which wasn't his to sell. It doesn't surprise me.

Where did you read that? The big house will at rare times sell things that belonged to past members of the band.

I remember when they were selling a bass that Allen Woody once owned, and I believe it was on ebay or some used musical instrument site, and someone bought it.

I personally do not think the big house staff, or archivists for the big house, should do this, but I guess they needed fast cash at the time?

[Edited on 2/21/2018 by The_Newt]


WarEagleRK - 2/21/2018 at 04:33 AM

Odd that this 7 year old thread was randomly resurrected.


tbomike - 2/21/2018 at 03:55 PM

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Odd that this 7 year old thread was randomly resurrected.


Yeah a brand new poster comes along and bumps up a 7 year old thread?


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