Thread: college football - spring practices

nebish - 3/9/2007 at 12:14 AM

Anyone wishing to discuss their team's spring situation?

I just started reading some things last night. I don't follow recruiting much at all, but wonder how some of you feel about your recruiting classes and spring outlook.

fast43 - 3/9/2007 at 12:18 AM

We start spring practice on the 30th. The recruting class was pretty good, filled some holes with JCs namely the OL .

I'll post more when I have more time

LexABB - 3/9/2007 at 12:53 AM

Nothing beats that S. Carolina Class of incoming freshman

Already Steven Garcia, enrolled in January, has been in court twice once for a bar fight and second for keying a professor's car, It is the second week in march and he has been in trouble with the law twice, what a moron. Obviously cannot contain himself in Columbia, being the party capital of...of....of...Richland and Lexington Counties!!!!! take that Clemson!

DanB - 3/9/2007 at 02:08 PM

You mean Stephen Carkeya. The ole ball coach landed a doozy this time.
At least the gamecocks have a qb in Blake. Clemson does not have anyone to step up this year at qb due to Bowden not letting the backups get any reps last year. Maybe another 7-5 season will show Tommy the door.

nebish - 3/9/2007 at 09:27 PM

With backs like Davis and Spiller it almost makes me forget who was QB last year. Perhaps Bowden didn't care to get any reps for backups because he planned to go with a true Fr this year? How about that offensive line, what is the read on it? 2 key guys back, but they have some big losses. Guess we'll see how well Bowden has recruited that position.

nebish - 3/9/2007 at 11:13 PM

Just read up on the ACC a little and I'm pretty excited for some ACC action.

10 of the 12 teams are legit bowl caliber (8 made it last year). I'm not sure what will happen with UNC and Duke. UNC's best bet at QB might be true Fr and Duke might be able to win a couple.

VT, NC St, UNC, Maryland, GT, Clemson, BC all play one D IAA team (sad trend in the 12 game season)

VT and GT seem like they are in the best shape. BC and Wake should be able to compete well. FSU (Jimbo Fisher new OC) and Miami (Patrick Nix new OC) can only improve really. NC St, Clemson, Virginia, Maryland should all be capable of 7 or more wins. The ACC may not be the best conference in 2007, but it looks to be the most competitive.

Some good nonconference matchups here (not counting annaul rivalries):
9/1 GT @ ND
9/8 Miami @ Oklahoma
9/8 VT @ LSU
9/8 Wake vs Nebraska
9/15 FSU @ Colorado
9/20 Miami vs Tex A&M
9/29 FSU vs Alabama (in Jacksonville)
9/29 Maryland at Rutgers
9/29 NC St vs Louisville
9/29 Virginia vs Pitt
10/13 BC @ ND
10/13 UNC vs SC

Fishhead - 3/10/2007 at 12:13 AM

Notre Dame got so much grief about their weak schedule last year that they added Duke for 2007.

I have a tough decision to make. South Carolina's Spring game is the same weekend as Wanee.

Should I take two or three cases of beer to Wanee?

nebish - 3/10/2007 at 01:11 AM

I know virtually nothing about Notre Dame's 2007 team, but their schedule is basically the same as last year with some home/away flip flops and BC replaces Army and Duke replaces UNC.

Hard to say at this point, but I'd say their schedule is a little softer or perhaps relatively the same this year.

2007 ND Football
Sept. 8 at Penn State
Sept. 15 at Michigan
Sept. 29 at Purdue
Oct. 6 at UCLA
Oct. 20 USC
Nov. 3 NAVY
Nov. 17 DUKE
Nov. 24 at Stanford

ClayPelland - 3/10/2007 at 04:20 AM

Bama's spring drills don't start until early April. Saben has decided to wait until the last minute, in order to have more time to install a system. Plus they are recruiting for 2008 as hard now as they were the last week leading up to the 07 signing class. And it's paying off, several verbal commitments already.He's telling every kid, that if their good enough to play as a true freshman, they will play. Every position is always open. It's going to be interesting.....And can't wait until the Florida State game in Jacksonville this year. I think it will be first time Bobby & Nick have coached against each other, and only the seconed time the two schools have even played each other, ever?

nebish - 3/10/2007 at 05:52 PM

I like Alabama's potential this year and although I didn't like how the whole Saban situation unfolded, I think he will produce some good results for Tide fans. Major Applewhite at OC is good and I think Kevin Steele is a good defensive coach (replaces Joe Kines). Gotta like that 07 schedule too.

Sat, Apr 21 A-Day Game Tuscaloosa 1:00 p.m.
Sat, Sep 01 Western Carolina Tuscaloosa TBA
Sat, Sep 08 Vanderbilt* at Nashville, Tenn. TBA
Sat, Sep 15 Arkansas* Tuscaloosa TBA
Sat, Sep 22 Georgia* Tuscaloosa TBA
Sat, Sep 29 Florida State at Jacksonville, Fla. TBA
Sat, Oct 06 Houston Tuscaloosa TBA
Sat, Oct 13 Ole Miss* at Oxford, Miss. TBA
Sat, Oct 20 Tennessee* Tuscaloosa TBA
Sat, Nov 03 LSU* Tuscaloosa TBA
Sat, Nov 10 Mississippi State* at Starkville, Miss. TBA
Sat, Nov 17 Louisiana-Monroe Tuscaloosa TBA
Sat, Nov 24 Auburn* at Auburn, Ala. TBA

mglowenstein certainly knows his team as he hyped them up big when few thought Wisky would be a conference contender. Schedule looks a little tougher this year. I was surprised to see UNLV back on the schedule, they already played a home and home with them and this year they are back in Vegas, was that part of the original deal?

Sept. 1 Washington State
Sept. 8 at UNLV
Sept. 15 The Citadel
Sept. 22 Iowa
Sept. 29 Michigan State
Oct. 6 at Illinois
Oct. 13 at Penn State
Oct. 20 Northern Illinois
Oct. 27 Indiana (Homecoming)
Nov. 3 at Ohio State
Nov. 10 Michigan
Nov. 17 at Minnesota

Bird - 3/12/2007 at 07:25 PM

Auburn's spring practice seems to be going pretty well with the requiste injuries, etc. Brandon Cox has looked the best he's been since he came to Auburn (GREAT!) The offensive line needs to be overhauled. The secondary is a strength as are the running backs, loaded with Brad Lester, Ben Tate, Mario Fannin (remember that name) and Tristan Davis (back over from defense.) The "D" line could be dominant and that'll help the green linebackers (but athletic and FAST as usual.) Wide receiver is going to be much better with Tim Hawthorne (blue chipper) now a redshirt freshman, Jake Slaughter (remember that name too) coming in from a military academy and Alex Rose another keeper up and coming. Add those to Prechae Rodriguez and Rod Smith and you've got a stellar receiving corps. Cole Bennett got a medical redshirt and will be back to leade a DEEP group of tight ends. A few question marks but we look to be reloading again. I'm thinking the winner of the AU-LSU game for the West with Arkansas in hot pursuit but our road schedule is cruel going to LSU, Florida, Arkansas and UGA. It looks like Bama could have a couple of losses in September (with games against Arkansas, Georgia and FSU) and at least four for the season but they'll be better. The Mississippi's will be improved too.

nebish - 3/13/2007 at 02:47 PM

It seems like over the last couple years (except for the undefeated season) that Auburn's passing game has been underwhelming. Maybe it was just a product of play calling or maybe the receivering corp needed something else. I look forward to Cox's Sr year and and am curious how the new young receivers will play.

Aside from returning kicks last year, what exactly did Tristan Davis do last year? Was he a nickle back or 2nd string safety?

Brad Lester is great and I remember that Ben Tate had some big games. Fannin redshirted last year or was he still with the QBs?

Bird - 3/13/2007 at 06:59 PM

Thanks Nebish. Tristan Davis was in the secondary and returning kicks. He was quite good at running back in 2005. I really don't think they need him back there though. I thought they needed him more in the secondary. Fannin was with the scout team last year I think. Also, I really do believe thes receivers, along with a healthy Cox, will make for a great passing game this year. Spring game is Saturday. War Eagle ! One of the more interesting scenarios will be when Kodi Burns (highly recruited QB out of Ft.Smith, AR) hits campus in August. He's an incredible passer and runner. I hate to heap this kind of hype on him but he was once described as a Vince Young with an arm. Holy cow !!!! REALLY ???? We shall see...

nebish - 3/17/2007 at 02:31 PM

ESPN's 2007 schedule as of now. The Saturday games for the most part are decided the week of the game, so no knowing at this point what those will be.

Thu., Aug. 30 Tulsa at Louisiana-Monroe 7 p.m. ESPN2

Thu., Aug. 30 Murray State at Louisville 7:30 p.m. ESPNU

Thu., Aug. 30 LSU at Mississippi State 8 p.m. ESPN

Fri., Aug. 31 Washington at Syracuse 8 p.m. ESPN

Mon., Sept. 3 Texas Tech at SMU 4 p.m. ESPN

Mon., Sept. 3 Florida State at Clemson 8 p.m. ESPN

Thu., Sept. 6 Middle Tennessee at Louisville 7 p.m. ESPN2

Thu., Sept. 6 Oregon State at Cincinnati 7:30 p.m. ESPN

Fri., Sept. 7 Navy at Rutgers 7 p.m. ESPN

Sat., Sept. 8 West Virginia at Marshall TBD ESPN or ESPN2

Thu., Sept. 13 West Virginia at Maryland 7:30 p.m. ESPN

Fri., Sept. 14 Oklahoma State at Troy 8 p.m. ESPN2

Sat., Sept. 15 Texas at Central Florida TBD ESPN or ESPN2

Thu., Sept. 20 Texas A&M at Miami 7:30 p.m. ESPN

Fri., Sept. 21 Oklahoma at Tulsa 8 p.m. ESPN2

Thu., Sept. 27 Southern Miss at Boise State 7:30 p.m. ESPN

Fri., Sept. 28 West Virginia at South Florida 8 p.m. ESPN2

Sat., Sept. 29 LSU at Tulane TBD ESPN or ESPN2

Tue., Oct. 2 Marshall at Memphis 8 p.m. ESPN2

Wed., Oct. 3 Rice at Southern Miss 8 p.m. ESPN2

Thu., Oct. 4 Kentucky at South Carolina 7:30 p.m. ESPN

Fri., Oct. 5 Utah at Louisville 8 p.m. ESPN

Thu., Oct. 11 Florida State at Wake Forest 7:30 p.m. ESPN

Thu., Oct. 18 South Florida at Rutgers 7:30 p.m. ESPN

Fri., Oct. 19 Louisville at Connecticut 8 p.m. ESPN

Sun., Oct. 21 Southern Miss at Marshall 8 p.m. ESPN

Thu., Oct. 25 Boston College at Virginia Tech 7:30 p.m. ESPN

Sun., Oct. 28 Central Florida at Southern Miss 8 p.m. ESPN

Thu., Nov. 1 Virginia Tech at Georgia Tech 7:30 p.m. ESPN

Fri., Nov. 2 Akron at Bowling Green 7 or 7:30 p.m. ESPNU

Sun., Nov. 4 SMU at Houston 8 p.m. ESPN

Tue., Nov. 6 Central Michigan at Western Michigan 7:30 p.m. ESPN2

Wed., Nov. 7 Ohio at Akron 7:30 p.m. ESPN2

Thu., Nov. 8 Louisville at West Virginia 7:30 p.m. ESPN

Fri., Nov. 9 Bowling Green at Eastern Michigan 7 or 7:30 p.m. ESPNU

Fri., Nov. 9 Rutgers at Army 8 p.m. ESPN2

Tue., Nov. 13 Toledo at Ball State 7:30 p.m. ESPN2

Wed., Nov. 14 Akron at Miami (Ohio) 7:30 p.m. ESPN2

Thu., Nov. 15 Oregon at Arizona 9 p.m. ESPN

Tue., Nov. 20 Middle Tennessee at Troy 7 p.m. ESPN2

Thu., Nov. 22 USC at Arizona State 8 p.m. ESPN

Fri., Nov. 23 Central Michigan at Akron 11 a.m. ESPNU

Fri., Nov. 23 Toledo at Bowling Green 2:30 p.m. ESPNU

Thu., Nov. 29 Rutgers at Louisville 7:30 p.m. ESPN

Sat., Dec. 1 Pittsburgh at West Virginia TBD ESPN or ESPN2

Sat., Dec. 1 C-USA Championship Game TBD ESPN or ESPN2

Sat., Dec. 1 MAC Championship Game TBD ESPN or ESPN2

fast43 - 3/17/2007 at 02:38 PM

Things were lookin pretty good for Kentucky going into practice til last week. LB Micah Johnson his Brother tackle Christian Johnson and Tackle Garry Williams were kicked off the team for academics.

There's half and the better half of our OL gone. Rich Brooks has stated that they can return to the team if they get their grades up.

nebish - 3/24/2007 at 12:40 PM

bump - anybody else been following their teams - any news to report?

LexABB - 3/24/2007 at 12:45 PM

I am surprised more of S. Carolina's games are not on espn, last year they were on espn every week it seemed.

fast43 - 3/24/2007 at 02:09 PM

I am surprised more of S. Carolina's games are not on espn, last year they were on espn every week it seemed.

The UK/USC is a Thursday night game. I'm thinking about making the trip

DanB - 3/25/2007 at 03:15 PM

Come on down Bill. Williams-Brice will surely be rocking on a Thursday night w/ 80,000 plus lunatics.

ClayPelland - 3/26/2007 at 01:06 AM

here's what Saban had to say about Bama's first practice.

Posted Mar 24, 2007

The word from Alabama Coach Nick Saban following the Crimson Tide’s first day of spring football practice Saturday was “pleased.” Bama had its first on-the-field football work under the new head coach and his staff with the Tide working out in helmets and shorts for about two hours.

Alabama will return to the practice field for the second of 15 spring training dates on Tuesday. The Crimson Tide will complete spring practice with the A-Day Game at 1 p.m. Saturday, April 21, in Bryant-Denny Stadium. That scrimmage is the only practice that will be open to the public.

The Tide was out with defense all in crimson jerseys, the offense in white, and quarterbacks and players unable to participate fully in black. It was a very warm day with temperatures unseasonably reaching into the 80s.

Nick Saban has been Alabama’s head coach for something over two months, but he was in what he said was his favorite part of the job Saturday. He said, “The part of coaching I like the best is the teaching, working with players. Our knowledge base being new, we’ve got a long way to go, a lot we need to teach.”

No one expects a football team to be anywhere close to ready on the first day of spring practice, particularly with a new system going in. But the players drew praise from their new head coach.

Saban said, “The first day is like all first days. The players have a lot of anxiety, don’t really know what to expect, have a lot of new drills, a lot of new teaching...but all-in-all, I was pleased with the way the players tried to respond to the tempo we’re practicing with, the teaching they are receiving from play-to-play. We weren’t able to sustain that intensity throughout. It was a warm day, first day with helmets on. I don’t care what you do in the off-season, the first day is a little different.

“It was a good start for us. I was pleased with it . We need to improve our ability to sustain our intensity over time so we can continue to play fast, execute well, not make mental errors, not lose mental toughness and physical toughness so that we can finish things the way we want to. We’ve made improvement. We need to continue to work to improve in that area.

“But all-in-all, I was pleased with the effort, I was pleased with the attitude, I was pleased with -- based on the volume of information these players had to digest -- with everything being relatively new from a terminology standpoint -- I was really pleased with what we were able to accomplish, what we were able to do.

“I was pleased with their approach, their intensity. We have some guys developing some understanding which is important for them to be able to play fast and be able to execute things the way they’d like to.”

Saban said he was not aware of any injuries during the day.

Even before sportswriters could ask about individuals who might have caught the head coach’s eye, Saban said, “We had a few guys make some plays out there. D.J. Hall was probably a little bit of a standout at receiver. He made a couple of big plays, made some nice catches, played fast, sustained well. (Quarterback) John Parker Wilson for the first day looked pretty good in what he was doing. There were a lot of players out there that did a nice job in what they were doing, but I noticed those two guys offensively. They looked like they were a little ahead of the curve.”

Saban didn’t name any defensive players, but that doesn’t mean he didn’t like what he saw of the defense.

“I thought the first group did a better job of executing, not making as many mental errors,” he said. “We’ve still got a long way to go, but I wasn’t disappointed at all in the way they went out there today and executed. We’ve got a lot of young players who really need to develop more confidence and consistency and performance for us to get enough players on defense for us to have enough depth to get through the kind of schedule we’ve got to play.”

Saban didn’t do anything special for his first day as Alabama’s head coach. He said the practice essentially was the same he has had with every team he has ever coached, from Toledo to Michigan State to LSU to the Miami Dolphins, although it is adjusted as needed.

The coach said Bama had a “lot of two-spot drills drills, trying to minimize the number of players standing around so everybody is getting some reps. We try to rotate guys through and try to get as much teaching done as we can. I don’t like to practice more than two hours, not counting walk-through and flexibility. We try to practice an hour and fifty minutes or two hours and get a lot of teaching done.”

He reiterated his whole-part-whole teaching plan, whereby players are given a lot to learn each day. “As much as they can consume on a daily basis,” Saban said. “If you go over the barrier, things kind of run together and you have so many mental errors you’re not really making progress. Over the years we’ve developed a system. Here’s how much we think they can learn, here’s how much they can learn the next day.”

He said it has been developed through trial and error and that it continues to change as needed.

There was a little team work, 35 plays “of some kind of team work” for each group in the Saturday practice.

Saban said, “It’s hard to go team when you just have the little spider pads on -- the little rubber things that go under shoulder pads. Those things are great for safety. But at this stage, the more you go, the more you learn, the more situational stuff you get into, you build into more and more team. I think the most difficult thing to do when you just have spider pads or shoulder pads and shorts is to start banging around in 11 on 11 stuff. We’ll do more and more of that as we go.”

nebish - 3/28/2007 at 07:07 PM

We need to improve our ability to sustain our intensity over time so we can continue to play fast, execute well, not make mental errors, not lose mental toughness and physical toughness so that we can finish things the way we want to.

I think Alabama will be a good team. If they would have had some more intensity and better execution last year they easily could have turned some of those losses into wins.

I'm a little out of the sports loop right now, but plan to travel for Michigan and Ohio State's spring games in April.

Iwonderwho - 3/30/2007 at 11:52 PM

Come on down Bill. Williams-Brice will surely be rocking on a Thursday night w/ 80,000 plus lunatics.

It is a really cool place to watch a game. I've probably been 5-6 times (as a UGA fan) and it is a great atmosphere. I wish I had the cash for a Cock-a-boose!

That "2001 Theme" entrance makes my hair stand on end! I could, however, do without the rooster crowing.

nebish - 3/31/2007 at 02:55 PM

SEC seems to always have the best football atmospheres in the country. I should make it to a game sometime.

DanB - 3/31/2007 at 06:43 PM

It is a really cool place to watch a game. I've probably been 5-6 times (as a UGA fan) and it is a great atmosphere. I wish I had the cash for a Cock-a-boose!

That "2001 Theme" entrance makes my hair stand on end! I could, however, do without the rooster crowing.

W-B is also known as Death Valley South by us Clemson fans. We seem to win in that stadium as often as the Cocks.

ClayPelland - 4/1/2007 at 01:16 AM

SEC seems to always have the best football atmospheres in the country. I should make it to a game sometime.

how about the bama/georgia game in tuscaloosa? i've got two extra tickets.

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