Thread: Fantasy Baseball - Sign into the league now.

WharfRat - 1/30/2007 at 03:44 PM

Howdy fellas

Here we go!!


Click here... http://baseball.fantasysports.yahoo.com/b1/register/joinleague?.scrumb=

Then you want to hit "Join Custom"

League ID Number is 33527
Password is bluesky

Please annouce yourself there in the mssg board so I know who is in and who isnt.
The best I could do draftwise is March 21 at 5pm. Most all of the prime spots are for the "paid league"

This is $11 per person, but everyone who have to do it to upgrade.
let me know what you guys think. We can upgrade anytime, untill the spots are filled.
We would also get live stats, etc.


If anyone has any problems at all, please contact me.



Here is the final list

All spots are taken, I will update when I get more info..


1.Wharf
2.Rob( cupofjo)
3. ozzie
4. Rob ( filmdude)
5.Texgent
6. Pete
7.Cupofjo's son
8.DanB
9 crossroad_blues
10. Rubba
11.MetsMan5
12. Crosscut3


[Edited on 2/6/2007 by WharfRat]

[Edited on 2/15/2007 by WharfRat]

[Edited on 2/16/2007 by WharfRat]

[Edited on 2/17/2007 by WharfRat]


piacere - 1/30/2007 at 03:50 PM

like I said in the baseball thread, any team that has Manny on it is already a fantasy team.


WharfRat - 1/30/2007 at 03:51 PM

quote:
like I said in the baseball thread, any team that has Derek Jeter on it is already a fantasy team.





True


piacere - 1/30/2007 at 03:59 PM

quote:
quote:
like I said in the baseball thread, any team that has Derek Jeter on it is already a fantasy team.





True


yeah but my fantasy team is closer to the true meaning of "fantasy" with Manny drifting aimlessly in left field.

throw in Schill "pitching" 'til he's 53 and it becomes a fantasy/horror.

or Mirabelli. and it becomes a comedy.


ThePeteMan - 1/30/2007 at 07:00 PM

March 24 is not a good draft night for me, maybe you've heard about this band the Allman Brothers that's playing at this old theatre called the Beacon that night?

If that's the only time that works for Yahoo and by consensus, is there any way I can still be part of it without getting saddled with leftover picks?


WharfRat - 1/30/2007 at 09:47 PM

quote:
March 24 is not a good draft night for me, maybe you've heard about this band the Allman Brothers that's playing at this old theatre called the Beacon that night?

If that's the only time that works for Yahoo and by consensus, is there any way I can still be part of it without getting saddled with leftover picks?


Then you, can "pre-rank" your players just as you would if we were all doing the 'autodraft" option.

I supposed we could go with 3/21?? That would be a Wednesday, and off night at the beacon..


DanB - 1/30/2007 at 09:59 PM

I'm in. As far as a name how about Peacheaters?


quote:
1.Wharf
2.Rob( cupofjo)
3. ozzie
4. Rob ( filmdude)
5.Texgent
6. Pete
7.Cupofjo's son
8.DanB
9
10.
11.
12.


cupofjo - 1/31/2007 at 01:16 AM

Bump


ThePeteMan - 1/31/2007 at 02:07 AM

Chuck, whatever the consensus is works fine for me. I'm new to this, so I'm... I can't believe I'm saying this to a Yankee fan ... umn... I'm gonna trust you.




WharfRat - 1/31/2007 at 02:12 AM

quote:
Chuck, whatever the consensus is works fine for me. I'm new to this, so I'm... I can't believe I'm saying this to a Yankee fan ... umn... I'm gonna trust you.







cupofjo - 1/31/2007 at 02:13 AM

quote:
Chuck, whatever the consensus is works fine for me. I'm new to this, so I'm... I can't believe I'm saying this to a Yankee fan ... umn... I'm gonna trust you.







crossroad_blues - 1/31/2007 at 02:51 AM

1.Wharf
2.Rob( cupofjo)
3. ozzie
4. Rob ( filmdude)
5.Texgent
6. Pete
7.Cupofjo's son
8.DanB
9 crossroad_blues
10.
11.
12.


WharfRat - 1/31/2007 at 02:52 AM

Woohoo

Only need 3 more


cupofjo - 1/31/2007 at 02:54 AM


RobFilmMusic - 1/31/2007 at 08:19 AM

hey chuck if we make it a weds night could we make it a little later......... you know with west coast and all, time gets a little effed up.

I want to be able to draft my team and dominate from the start


WharfRat - 1/31/2007 at 11:16 AM

I will see what is available from Yahoo when the time comes

is 9 PM EST ok with everyone?


cupofjo - 1/31/2007 at 11:47 AM

Works for me


RobFilmMusic - 1/31/2007 at 04:45 PM

quote:
I will see what is available from Yahoo when the time comes

is 9 PM EST ok with everyone?


i'll just have to see what happens that day for me and i'll work it out.

[Edited on 1/31/2007 by RobFilmMusic]


cupofjo - 1/31/2007 at 11:32 PM

How long does the draft take normally? Can we push it up to 10 pm? Just thinking of Rob here.


WharfRat - 2/1/2007 at 02:15 AM

quote:
How long does the draft take normally? Can we push it up to 10 pm? Just thinking of Rob here.


Depends.. I have seen it take 3 hours... and sometimes 2

All depends on how many of us are actually "live drafting"
That actually makes it faster.


ThePeteMan - 2/1/2007 at 02:17 AM

9 or 10pm works for me, so does staying up till 3am EST to do it, it's ALL GOOD!!!


WharfRat - 2/1/2007 at 02:18 AM

quote:
9 or 10pm works for me, so does staying up till 3am EST to do it, it's ALL GOOD!!!


Noooooo I have to be up at 430 am for work on Thursdays


WharfRat - 2/1/2007 at 02:19 AM

Hmmm What about 3/22 ( Thursday???)

I can do it a little later then..

Pete, are you going to the Show that night???????


WharfRat - 2/1/2007 at 02:20 AM

eFFFFFF oteFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF


crossroad_blues - 2/1/2007 at 02:23 AM

Thursday 3/22 works for me.

I get up at 4 am weekday mornings, but can sick out on Friday.


WharfRat - 2/1/2007 at 02:28 AM

Thats the spirit


cupofjo - 2/1/2007 at 12:38 PM



Three hours! WoW! No later than 10!

Chuck update your first post with people playing.

Also PM Rich. He was interested in playing again but I see he hasnt signed up!


ozzypie - 2/1/2007 at 02:31 PM

Chuckster...I like the beacon 'off night' senario for those of us who go to alot of the shows. How would sometime on a sunday work? Like Pete, I don't want to get stuck with a bunch of Yankees either.


Rubba - 2/1/2007 at 03:12 PM

1.Wharf
2.Rob( cupofjo)
3. ozzie
4. Rob ( filmdude)
5.Texgent
6. Pete
7.Cupofjo's son
8.DanB
9 crossroad_blues
10. Rubba
11.
12.


ozzypie - 2/1/2007 at 03:41 PM

quote:




Any ideas on a league name would be great









How abouts 'The Mets rule the world in '07' league? ?? ???


ThePeteMan - 2/1/2007 at 04:55 PM

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quote:
quote:
9 or 10pm works for me, so does staying up till 3am EST to do it, it's ALL GOOD!!!


Noooooo I have to be up at 430 am for Croky on Thursdays



UP? TMI.


LMAO

Chuck, this "work" you do with Croky on Tursdays, is it some kind of payback for the Abreu giveaway?

Yeah, 3/22 is cool by me, Won't be at the Beacon that night.

That'll be a great night in front of the computer, too -- drafting ball players and checking the Beacon Opening Night live set list updates, cranking a good 2006 Beacon show on the headphones. Kinda sounds like where I'd like to spend eternity, actually...


WharfRat - 2/2/2007 at 02:15 AM

quote:
quote:




Any ideas on a league name would be great









How abouts 'The Mets rule the world in '07' league? ?? ???


no.


WharfRat - 2/2/2007 at 02:16 AM

Oh, and Sunday would work too.. It would have to be later in the day though, I have a "live in person" draft goin on..


WharfRat - 2/2/2007 at 02:17 AM

quote:
Chuck, this "work" you do with Croky on Tursdays, is it some kind of payback for the Abreu giveaway



crossroad_blues - 2/2/2007 at 04:03 AM

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quote:




Any ideas on a league name would be great









How abouts 'The Mets rule the world in '07' league? ?? ???


Nah, let's pick something that's real, not fantasy.


RobFilmMusic - 2/2/2007 at 06:58 AM

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Oh, and Sunday would work too.. It would have to be later in the day though, I have a "live in person" draft goin on..


Sunday would be ten times better for me if we can swing that.....


Usually on online drafts you can set a time limit for picks like 2 minutes or so. That helps speed up the process.


WharfRat - 2/2/2007 at 01:36 PM

Ok... Assuming I can get in for a Sunday I will do that.

Say.. 8 Pm EST??

You guys will have an advantage though. After a day-long live draft my brain will be fried by then


I will do my best to grab the timeslot that we need.

If all else fails, what about 3/28 ( wed)
That wil be right before the BIG WEEKEND..
Again, you guys will have the advantage


croky - 2/2/2007 at 02:30 PM

quote:
quote:
Chuck, this "work" you do with Croky on Tursdays, is it some kind of payback for the Abreu giveaway







I think the Phils are doing just fine without Bobby Baseball.
And I don't do Thursdays.


ozzypie - 2/2/2007 at 07:27 PM

quote:
Ok... Assuming I can get in for a Sunday I will do that.

Say.. 8 Pm EST??

You guys will have an advantage though. After a day-long live draft my brain will be fried by then


I will do my best to grab the timeslot that we need.

If all else fails, what about 3/28 ( wed)
That wil be right before the BIG WEEKEND..
Again, you guys will have the advantage



Either one works for me.

BTW...

I still think my idea for the league name should be used if for no other reason than I'm the only one who picked one!

....of course if you want to call it the 'Yankees SUCK' league, that's OK with me too.


RobFilmMusic - 2/2/2007 at 09:49 PM

how 'bout Seven Turns, Three Outs?

Swing a bat for peace?

Idlewild fields

We're DeSangitized!

Brothers and Bats

..... just throwin those out.... i'll try and think of more


WharfRat - 2/3/2007 at 02:42 AM

[quoteSwing a bat for peace?
]




Only if TerriB plays


Oh,and eFFFFF oZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZy


WharfRat - 2/3/2007 at 02:43 AM

ZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

http://www.optonline.net/Sports/Article/Feeds?CID=type%3Dxml%26channel%3D33 %26article%3D21015021


I will believe it when I see it


cupofjo - 2/3/2007 at 03:05 AM

quote:
quote:
Ok... Assuming I can get in for a Sunday I will do that.

Say.. 8 Pm EST??

You guys will have an advantage though. After a day-long live draft my brain will be fried by then


I will do my best to grab the timeslot that we need.

If all else fails, what about 3/28 ( wed)
That wil be right before the BIG WEEKEND..
Again, you guys will have the advantage



Either one works for me.

BTW...

I still think my idea for the league name should be used if for no other reason than I'm the only one who picked one!

....of course if you want to call it the 'Yankees WIIIIIIIINN' league , that's OK with me too.


That works for me too


WharfRat - 2/3/2007 at 03:06 AM

How about Pinstriped Peaches?


ThePeteMan - 2/3/2007 at 03:29 AM

quote:
How about Pinstriped Peaches?


How's about simply, THE BROTHER-HOOD

or THE BASEBALL BROTHERHOOD

or

THE DUANE ALLMAN MEMORIAL SONIC BARBECUE AND BASEBALL ORGANIZATION

?

[Edited on 2/3/2007 by ThePeteMan]


WharfRat - 2/3/2007 at 03:30 AM

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quote:
How about Pinstriped Peaches?


How's about simply, THE YankeesWinIn07


Dude!! Glad to see ya finally come around


Seriously, I like your idea..

What do yuz guz think?


ThePeteMan - 2/3/2007 at 04:06 AM

Wharfy, c'mon, what about that idea you had on Thursday?
3 Strikes and you're OUT of the Closet?


RobFilmMusic - 2/3/2007 at 04:14 AM

The Bastard Sons of Duane Allman?



ThePeteMan - 2/3/2007 at 04:16 AM

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The Bastard Sons of Duane Allman?





I dig that.



How about Six-String Sluggers ?


SkyPuppy - 2/3/2007 at 04:20 AM

I'm not in it, so I don't know if my vote counts
the ABB.. the All Baseball Band


WharfRat - 2/3/2007 at 11:04 AM

quote:
Wharfy, c'mon, what about that idea you had on Thursday?
3 Strikes and you're OUT of the Closet?






No.


cupofjo - 2/3/2007 at 03:13 PM

quote:
quote:
How about Pinstriped Peaches?


How's about simply, THE BROTHER-HOOD

or THE BASEBALL BROTHERHOOD

or

THE DUANE ALLMAN MEMORIAL SONIC BARBECUE AND BASEBALL ORGANIZATION

?

[Edited on 2/3/2007 by ThePeteMan]


A twist on Pete's. ABBrotherhood


metsman5 - 2/3/2007 at 04:08 PM

Any slots left? If so, I'll join.


piacere - 2/3/2007 at 04:42 PM

quote:
The Bastard Sons of Duane Allman?






WharfRat - 2/4/2007 at 03:04 AM

1.Wharf
2.Rob( cupofjo)
3. ozzie
4. Rob ( filmdude)
5.Texgent
6. Pete
7.Cupofjo's son
8.DanB
9 crossroad_blues
10. Rubba
11.MetsMan5
12.

You are in dude.

greeeeaaat... Another Met fan


Only need 1 more team fellas!!

Rich!! Pick up the PM phone


WharfRat - 2/4/2007 at 03:05 AM

quote:
A twist on Pete's. ABBrotherhood


I like this..


metsman5 - 2/4/2007 at 03:09 AM

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greeeeaaat... Another Met fan


What makes you think I'm a Mets fan?


WharfRat - 2/4/2007 at 03:11 AM

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quote:
greeeeaaat... Another Met fan


What makes you think I'm a Mets fan?


Riiiight


TexGent - 2/4/2007 at 04:20 PM

Nice to be thinking about baseball again

It looks like there are two organizational issues on the table.

Where do we stand on a draft day that most could make? I'm good for March 18, 21 or 22. Not so much for the 24th and 25th but I'll arrange something if that's the consensus.

Rotisserie or head-to-head? I vote for rotisserie.

GAME ON!!!

97 days till Roger reports to training camp.


WharfRat - 2/4/2007 at 06:14 PM

quote:
Nice to be thinking about baseball again

It looks like there are two organizational issues on the table.

Where do we stand on a draft day that most could make? I'm good for March 18, 21 or 22. Not so much for the 24th and 25th but I'll arrange something if that's the consensus.

Rotisserie or head-to-head? I vote for rotisserie.

GAME ON!!!

97 days till Roger reports to training camp.


Looks like the draft wil be the evening of 3/25.. If I cant get that I will shoot for 3/29.

Looks like everyone likes the head to head deal.

As for Roger.....


TexGent - 2/5/2007 at 02:24 PM

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quote:
97 days till Roger reports to training camp.


Looks like the draft wil be the evening of 3/25.. If I cant get that I will shoot for 3/29.

Looks like everyone likes the head to head deal.

As for Roger.....

Sounds good. The sooner we get the date set the easier it should be for me to juggle my schedule.

Does anyone know if there is a playoff in the HTH format?

As for Roger ... I've had reports from several people who have talked with him lately. They all say that he talks about winning being the most important thing "if" he comes back this year. They have all came away from the conversations convinced he is going to put on the pinstripes this summer. Just more fodder for the rumor mill ...


cupofjo - 2/5/2007 at 03:03 PM

quote:

Sounds good. The sooner we get the date set the easier it should be for me to juggle my schedule.

Does anyone know if there is a playoff in the HTH format?

As for Roger ... I've had reports from several people who have talked with him lately. They all say that he talks about winning being the most important thing "if" he comes back this year. They have all came away from the conversations convinced he is going to put on the pinstripes this summer. Just more fodder for the rumor mill ...


Yes there is.

Roger only caring about himself and winning who would have thought that

Even if he does I still would like him to put on the Pinstripes one more time


WharfRat - 2/6/2007 at 03:18 AM

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Does anyone know if there is a playoff in the HTH format?



Good question...

I am not that sure really.

I know with the "pay" leagues ( which I am also a part of) there are things you can do that you cant with the free one.
I will see what the options are upon signing up.
We will still have plenty of time before Opening Day to configure things.


RobFilmMusic - 2/6/2007 at 08:50 AM

There are playoffs in HTH (the free one) on yahoo.


WharfRat - 2/6/2007 at 01:43 PM

Thanks Rob.

I do know with the free league you cat have seperate divisions, which I think would be cool.. Even more rivalries

I am still waiting on that email from Yahoo


Crosscut3 - 2/6/2007 at 02:14 PM

Hi guys, I lost track of the team/signup list and the draft time. If there are any openings I'd love to get in on this. If the draft time doesn't work out for me, I will pre rank players.

Here's to hoping that dice-k can live up to his hype and that Josh is not the HR king again this year.

Is this the current list?

1.Wharf
2.Rob( cupofjo)
3. ozzie
4. Rob ( filmdude)
5.Texgent
6. Pete
7.Cupofjo's son
8.DanB
9 crossroad_blues
10. Rubba
11. crosscut3
12.

[Edited on 2/6/2007 by Crosscut3]


WharfRat - 2/6/2007 at 02:19 PM

1.Wharf
2.Rob( cupofjo)
3. ozzie
4. Rob ( filmdude)
5.Texgent
6. Pete
7.Cupofjo's son
8.DanB
9 crossroad_blues
10. Rubba
11.MetsMan5
12. Crosscut3


Looks like we have a full house!!

I will give you guys an update as soon as I hear from Yahooooo.


Crosscut3 - 2/6/2007 at 03:06 PM

I prefer rotisserie myself, only done h2h once before. But of course I will give it another go.

I think that the last few weeks of the season are playoffs in h2h leagues.

Only a week and a half till spring training. Sure doesn't feel like baseball weather to me.


WharfRat - 2/6/2007 at 03:17 PM

Oh no.... Another Redsux fan


Crosscut3 - 2/6/2007 at 04:16 PM

That's me, born and bred. And to think, I spent 4 hours online last weekend just for the opportunity to spend a big chunk of money to sit in the bleachers for one Game. Tickets are a joke up here.


RobFilmMusic - 2/6/2007 at 06:14 PM

quote:
That's me, born and bred. And to think, I spent 4 hours online last weekend just for the opportunity to spend a big chunk of money to sit in the bleachers for one Game. Tickets are a joke up here.


I got your back around here CrossCut


ozzypie - 2/6/2007 at 06:28 PM

1986


RobFilmMusic - 2/6/2007 at 06:58 PM

2004


Crosscut3 - 2/6/2007 at 08:12 PM

the monkey is already off our backs. 1986, 1918 doesn't hurt anymore just years. Now we can just watch baseball, and hope that Bonds falls short.


WharfRat - 2/7/2007 at 06:12 AM

quote:
the monkey is already off our backs. 1986, 1918 doesn't hurt anymore just years. Now we can just watch baseball, and watch the Yankees return to the Promised Land.



cupofjo - 2/7/2007 at 11:46 AM

quote:
1.Wharf
2.Rob( cupofjo)
3. ozzie
4. Rob ( filmdude)
5.Texgent
6. Pete
7.Cupofjo's son
8.DanB
9 crossroad_blues
10. Rubba
11.MetsMan5
12. Crosscut3


Looks like we have a full house!!

I will give you guys an update as soon as I hear from Yahooooo.





Crosscut3 - 2/7/2007 at 12:17 PM

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and watch the Yankees return to the Promised Land.



Yeah, If Georgey can restrain himself and stop meddling. Let Cashman do his job.


ozzypie - 2/7/2007 at 01:42 PM

quote:
quote:
and watch the Yankees return to the Promised Land.






Someone's been reading too many of Mark's posts!


WharfRat - 2/7/2007 at 02:04 PM

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quote:
and watch the Yankees return to the Promised Land.



Yeah, If Georgey can restrain himself and stop meddling. Let Cashman do his job.


Its been ALL Cashman this winter. I think he has done his best job yet.

Hell, our average age may actually be under 40

Until we sign Roger


Crosscut3 - 2/7/2007 at 04:25 PM

It looks like they almost have to sign Roger. I'd take Clemens over RJ any day, even if his demands are of Bonds proportions.


TexGent - 2/8/2007 at 12:23 AM

Fantasy Baseball returns to Yahoo Thursday, February 15!


WharfRat - 2/8/2007 at 01:11 AM

quote:
Fantasy Baseball returns to Yahoo Thursday, February 15!


Thanks!!

I will be on top of this.


crossroad_blues - 2/8/2007 at 01:36 AM

quote:

We will still have plenty of time before Opening Day to confuse things.



WharfRat - 2/8/2007 at 01:39 AM

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It looks like they almost have to sign Roger. I'd take Clemens over RJ any day, even if his demands are of Bonds proportions.


Difference is.. Barry* is a Cancer.

One of the reasons the Yanks want Roger back to to tutor our prize propect Phiilp Hughes.

I dont think anyone would want Barry* anywhere near a rookie.


Crosscut3 - 2/8/2007 at 11:56 AM

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One of the reasons the Yanks want Roger back to to tutor our prize propect Phiilp Hughes.

I dont think anyone would want Barry* anywhere near a rookie.


Good point. Roger must have quite a work ethic/workout regimen to still be so effective.


WharfRat - 2/15/2007 at 10:12 AM

Howdy fellas

Looks like the sign-up is tommorow 2/15

I am going to shoot fot Sunday March 25 at 8 pm EST
If I cannot get that timeslot, I will shoot for Wednesday 3/28 at 8.


metsman5 - 2/15/2007 at 01:31 PM

I just checked Yahoo fantasy this morning and it said baseball will start tomorrow - the 16th.


RobFilmMusic - 2/15/2007 at 07:29 PM

quote:
Howdy fellas

Looks like the sign-up is tommorow 2/15

I am going to shoot fot Sunday March 25 at 8 pm EST
If I cannot get that timeslot, I will shoot for Wednesday 3/28 at 8.





ThePeteMan - 2/15/2007 at 09:17 PM

quote:
quote:
the monkey is already off our backs. 1986, 1918 doesn't hurt anymore just years. Now we can just watch baseball, and watch the Yankees shoot up steroids, make costly errors, and cry like girls!





Wharfy, I'm shocked at the way you've turned against your old team -- shocked I say!


ThePeteMan - 2/15/2007 at 09:19 PM

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quote:
One of the reasons the Yanks want Roger back to to tutor our prize propect Phiilp Hughes.

I dont think anyone would want Barry* anywhere near a rookie.


Good point. Roger must have quite a work ethic/workout regimen to still be so effective.


I suspect Roger's workout regimen is similar to Barry's.


crossroad_blues - 2/16/2007 at 01:15 AM

quote:
I just checked Yahoo fantasy this morning and it said baseball will start tomorrow - the 16th.



WharfRat - 2/16/2007 at 01:55 AM

quote:
quote:
quote:
One of the reasons the Yanks want Roger back to to tutor our prize propect Phiilp Hughes.

I dont think anyone would want Barry* anywhere near a rookie.


Good point. Roger must have quite a work ethic/workout regimen to still be so effective.


I suspect Roger's workout regimen is similar to Barry's.


No.


WharfRat - 2/16/2007 at 01:56 AM

quote:
quote:
quote:
the monkey is already off our backs. 1986, 1918 doesn't hurt anymore just years. Now we can just watch baseball, and watch the Yankees shoot up steroids, make costly errors, and cry like girls!





Wharfy, I'm shocked at the way you've turned against your old team -- shocked I say!


You know.. I was just wondering where the heck you have been.

Now I wish you had stayed there





J/K bro..


WharfRat - 2/16/2007 at 01:57 AM

quote:
I just checked Yahoo fantasy this morning and it said baseball will start tomorrow - the 16th.


Woops, you are correct sir. I had the day right, just not the date

Serves me right for trying to think at 5am


Rubba - 2/16/2007 at 08:21 PM

How about a PRIZE people????

Personally, I think this stuff is lots of fun until people fall out of contention and ignore making necessary moves. So... i vote for a little motivation.

Winner gets Beacon Hotel room and pair of tickets to Saturday ABB show. I figure with 12 teams that comes out to about $35 per team. Thoughts? Wharfie, you can hold the cash until the season ends.

Another note, pleeeeeease dont' schedule the draft for 3/29. I'll be in the LoBalc....





WharfRat - 2/17/2007 at 01:40 AM

Rubba, I will be with you on the 29.. The only "draft" that night will be in my beer mug


metsman5 - 2/17/2007 at 03:09 AM

I'm signed in. My team is "PlayAllNight" I'll be at the Beacon as well on the 29th - we should get together before the show.


WharfRat - 2/17/2007 at 03:11 AM

quote:
I'm signed in. My team is "PlayAllNight" I'll be at the Beacon as well on the 29th - we should get together before the show.



I wont be hard to find


WharfRat - 2/17/2007 at 03:17 AM

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quote:
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I'm signed in. My team is "PlayAllNight" I'll be at the Beacon as well on the 29th - we should get together before the show.



I wont be hard to find



Look under a barstool at Yogi's.



Or on the floor at Karens party


TexGent - 2/17/2007 at 03:33 AM

Do you have a link/password for us to sign in?


WharfRat - 2/17/2007 at 03:34 AM

quote:
Do you have a link/password for us to sign in?


1st post in thread

I edited..


crossroad_blues - 2/17/2007 at 03:37 AM

I'm registered!

Chesapeake Skipjacks

Good Luck to all.


WharfRat - 2/17/2007 at 03:40 AM

quote:
I'm registered!

Chesapeake Skipjacks

Good Luck to all.




TexGent - 2/17/2007 at 04:55 AM

quote:
Howdy fellas

Here we go!!


Please annouce yourself there in the mssg board so I know who is in and who isnt.
The best I could do draftwise is March 21 at 5pm. Most all of the prime spots are for the "paid league"

This is $11 per person, but everyone who have to do it to upgrade.
let me know what you guys think. We can upgrade anytime, untill the spots are filled.
We would also get live stats, etc.

If anyone has any problems at all, please contact me.


The TexasHeat is onboard.

March 21st is actually a great time for me.
I'll do the upgrade just for the live stats if everyone else is onboard.

Good luck to all!!!


[Edited on 2/17/2007 by TexGent]


crossroad_blues - 2/17/2007 at 05:02 AM

quote:
quote:
Howdy fellas

Here we go!!


Please annouce yourself there in the mssg board so I know who is in and who isnt.
The best I could do draftwise is March 21 at 5pm. Most all of the prime spots are for the "paid league"

This is $11 per person, but everyone who have to do it to upgrade.
let me know what you guys think. We can upgrade anytime, untill the spots are filled.
We would also get live stats, etc.

If anyone has any problems at all, please contact me.


The TexasHeat is onboard.

March 21st is actually a great time for me.
I'll do the upgrade just for the live stats if everyone else is onboard.

Good luck to all!!!


[Edited on 2/17/2007 by TexGent]



TexGent - 2/17/2007 at 05:27 AM

quote:
How about a PRIZE people????

Personally, I think this stuff is lots of fun until people fall out of contention and ignore making necessary moves. So... i vote for a little motivation.

Winner gets Beacon Hotel room and pair of tickets to Saturday ABB show. I figure with 12 teams that comes out to about $35 per team. Thoughts? Wharfie, you can hold the cash until the season ends.

Another note, pleeeeeease dont' schedule the draft for 3/29. I'll be in the LoBalc....



Tickets and a room would real nice if you happen to be close.
How about some airfare too?


metsman5 - 2/17/2007 at 01:54 PM

OK - a couple of issues here. Firstly, what is the $11 for and how do we get to whom we need to get it to and whom do we need to ge it to? Secondly - what am I to make of this Wharfy?

quote:
I wont be hard to find


Thirdly - quite a coincidence that you named your team Chesapeake Skipjacks crossroad. It just so happens that a few years ago, my wife and I spent our annivesary at a B&B in St. Michaels, MD. We took a ride on the last of the skipjacks - the Rebecca T. Ruark and had a great time! Here's a pic of me piloting the durn thing.


Lastly -
quote:
Good Luck to all.
I second that




WharfRat - 2/18/2007 at 03:32 PM

quote:
OK - a couple of issues here. Firstly, what is the $11 for and how do we get to whom we need to get it to and whom do we need to ge it to? Secondly - what am I to make of this Wharfy?


This is to upgrade to the "Plus" league, where we get live stats.. but most of all,a MUCH better selection of live draft dates and times.

I would have to handle the cash for the upgrade, only the Commish can put it through.

Again, we will only do this if everyone agrees..

[Edited on 2/18/2007 by WharfRat]


metsman5 - 2/18/2007 at 07:01 PM

quote:
Again, we will only do this if everyone agrees..


Well I should be able to swing $11, so I'm in. What, no comment on the stellar pic of me piloting a skipjack on the mighty Chesapeake? Sheeeeeshhh.......... what's someone got to do to get noticed around here?

...and where will I find you on the 29th? really?


WharfRat - 2/18/2007 at 08:32 PM

quote:
...and where will I find you on the 29th? really?


Hmm lets see...

I should be arriving in NYC around 10.

That will get me to the Beacon Hotel around 1030 ish

That will get me into Yogi's at around noonish at the latest.

Thats a safe bet


ThePeteMan - 2/19/2007 at 03:38 AM

I'm all signed in, my team's the HOWLIN' WOLVES

Hope I won't be howlin' in misery, LOL.


WharfRat - 2/19/2007 at 03:53 AM

quote:
I'm all signed in, my team's the HOWLIN' WOLVES

Hope I won't be howlin' in misery, LOL.




No, you can save that for October


ThePeteMan - 2/19/2007 at 04:02 AM

quote:
quote:
I'm all signed in, my team's the HOWLIN' WOLVES

Hope I won't be howlin' in misery, LOL.




No, you can save that for October


By then, you'll just be stone cold silent, brother.


WharfRat - 2/19/2007 at 04:04 AM

quote:
quote:
quote:
I'm all signed in, my team's the HOWLIN' WOLVES

Hope I won't be howlin' in misery, LOL.




No, you can save that for October


By then, you'll just be stone cold silent, brother.


I will be cool and silently confident in my Yankee return to the Promised Land






Sorry Mark


ThePeteMan - 2/19/2007 at 04:12 AM

quote:
quote:
quote:
quote:
I'm all signed in, my team's the HOWLIN' WOLVES

Hope I won't be howlin' in misery, LOL.




No, you can save that for October


By then, you'll just be stone cold silent, brother.


I will be cool and silently confident in my Yankee return to the Promised Land




I think it IS likely that after their elimination in the first round, they'll be playing some exhibition games in Jerusalem by then. And it's nice to see your confidence in that, it shows you're getting more realistic in your old age.


WharfRat - 2/19/2007 at 04:13 AM

no.


crossroad_blues - 2/19/2007 at 04:17 AM

quote:


Thirdly - quite a coincidence that you named your team Chesapeake Skipjacks crossroad. It just so happens that a few years ago, my wife and I spent our annivesary at a B&B in St. Michaels, MD. We took a ride on the last of the skipjacks - the Rebecca T. Ruark and had a great time! Here's a pic of me piloting the durn thing.





Hey brother, glad you could indulge in some of our local 'flavor'. St. Michaels is a beautiful place to experience what's left of the true Chesapeake atmosphere. The Skipjacks were originally built to harvest oysters in the Bay. The Rebeca T. Ruark was built in 1886 and one of the last surviving original Skipjacks. There are only about 38 or so left. So many oysters were harvested in the Bay from 1865 to the late 1970's that Solomon's Island (on the eastern shore) became a peninsula because of the oyster shell pileup.

Next time you're in the area, look me up.

Now, back to our regularly scheduled broadcast.......


DanB - 2/19/2007 at 02:58 PM

PawleysAllstars is registered and ready.


ozzypie - 2/20/2007 at 12:57 PM

The AMAZING METS are ready to amaze. The $11 thing is fine with me.


WharfRat - 2/20/2007 at 02:18 PM

Ok.. update time

1.Wharf (in, ok with $10 fee)
2.Rob( cupofjo) (having family issues)
3. ozzie ( in, ok for 10)
4. Rob ( filmdude)
5.Texgent (in, ok for 10)
6. Pete (in, ok for 10)
7.Cupofjo's son ( family)
8.DanB ( in, ok for 10)
9 crossroad_blues ( in, ok for 10)
10. Rubba
11.MetsMan5 (in, ok for 10)
12. Crosscut3

Still need to rest of you guys to sign up
If you have changed your mind, pleasse let me know. I have been contacted by oters that want in.



Rubba - 2/20/2007 at 03:26 PM

Im in for the extra $$$ if it gets us a better draft time.

I get back from Amsterdam the morning of the 21st, so I'll probably grab Gretzky with my first pick...


metsman5 - 2/20/2007 at 03:33 PM

quote:
St. Michaels is a beautiful place to experience what's left of the true Chesapeake atmosphere.

Couldn't agree more. Absolutely lovely place!
quote:
Next time you're in the area, look me up.

Are you in St. Michaels?



RobFilmMusic - 2/20/2007 at 09:29 PM

i'm fine with the $11......... i'll read thru the whole thread to figure out what is going on.


RobFilmMusic - 2/20/2007 at 10:38 PM

ok just registered...... Cold Beer And Grits...


Chuck may i make a suggestion that we put a limit on Max Moves.......... i've been in leagues without the limit and it just seems the strategy is taken out of the game...... that is of course if everyone else agrees and is cool with it.


WharfRat - 2/20/2007 at 11:29 PM

quote:
Chuck may i make a suggestion that we put a limit on Max Moves.......... i've been in leagues without the limit and it just seems the strategy is taken out of the game...... that is of course if everyone else agrees and is cool with it.


Vote anyone??

Crosscut,where are ya??

Once he is in, we can let this thread die and take all other action over there.


crossroad_blues - 2/21/2007 at 01:59 AM

quote:
quote:
St. Michaels is a beautiful place to experience what's left of the true Chesapeake atmosphere.

Couldn't agree more. Absolutely lovely place!
quote:
Next time you're in the area, look me up.

Are you in St. Michaels?



Nope, a little southwest across the Bay.

[Edited on 2/21/2007 by crossroad_blues]


RobFilmMusic - 2/21/2007 at 02:16 AM

quote:
quote:
Chuck may i make a suggestion that we put a limit on Max Moves.......... i've been in leagues without the limit and it just seems the strategy is taken out of the game...... that is of course if everyone else agrees and is cool with it.


Vote anyone??

Crosscut,where are ya??

Once he is in, we can let this thread die and take all other action over there.


chuck asked me about the limit and i've been in leagues before where i've been bitten by the injury bug and had 50 moves which was plenty....... if you put the max on it kind of prevents the whole pick up the hot bat thing...... know what i mean


crossroad_blues - 2/21/2007 at 02:29 AM

quote:
quote:
quote:
Chuck may i make a suggestion that we put a limit on Max Moves.......... i've been in leagues without the limit and it just seems the strategy is taken out of the game...... that is of course if everyone else agrees and is cool with it.


quote:
Vote anyone??



chuck asked me about the limit and i've been in leagues before where i've been bitten by the injury bug and had 50 moves which was plenty....... if you put the max on it kind of prevents the whole pick up the hot bat thing...... know what i mean




agree


WharfRat - 2/21/2007 at 03:13 AM

Ok, I see your point there.. makes sense.

But what if someone gets bombed with injuries???

Leave 4-5 dead spots on the roster


Well, I guess if yu dont blow them all early in the season...

[Edited on 2/21/2007 by WharfRat]


crossroad_blues - 2/21/2007 at 03:21 AM

quote:


Well, I guess if yu dont blow them all early in the season...




I had a great comeback for that one, but sobriety took over.


WharfRat - 2/21/2007 at 03:23 AM

Hmm I see your point

Thought it was safe, not being Thursday and all


ThePeteMan - 2/21/2007 at 03:24 AM

What Rob said makes sense to me...


WharfRat - 2/21/2007 at 03:27 AM

Ok then...

What do you guys think is a good Max number?

There are 28 (about) in the season..

Maybe set the limit at 30.. About 1 per week?


RobFilmMusic - 2/21/2007 at 05:40 AM

quote:
Ok then...

What do you guys think is a good Max number?

There are 28 (about) in the season..

Maybe set the limit at 30.. About 1 per week?




30 would be interesting and challenging i think...... you think 30 is a lot till you get into it and then all of the sudden it's Aug 15 and you've use 25


TexGent - 2/21/2007 at 06:09 AM

About the housekeeping issues:

1. I'm in for the $11 upgrade for live stats but ... March 21st works out GREAT for me.

Do we have to change the draft date? How many people have a problem with the current date/time? Is this going to be the same with a different time?

2. I'm pre-disposed to be against limits on roster moves although 'churning' players can be a problem. The injury bug will be devasting to a few teams. Other teams will draft busts and have to scramble to build an outfiled or middle infield or pitching staff.

Our league is also a shallow league, drafting only about a third of the starting rooster leaving a LOT of talent out on the table especially considering call-ups.

If we must have a limit how about a weekly limit of 2 or a season limit of 50? Would there be a new allocation for the playoffs just to make things fair?

[Edited on 2/21/2007 by TexGent]


WharfRat - 2/21/2007 at 12:00 PM

quote:
If we must have a limit how about a weekly limit of 2 or a season limit of 50? Would there be a new allocation for the playoffs just to make things fair?


We can do as many as 100.

Maybe 70??


ozzypie - 2/21/2007 at 02:19 PM

I don't like any limits on roster moves for alot of reasons.


First, we currently have 22 man rosters which means the top 264 players are spoken for when one goes to make a move anyway.

Second, it gives too much weight to the draft. God forbid you can't make the draft or your team suffers alot of injuries, now you're limited in how you can try and repair the damage?

Third, it's unrealistic. Real GM's have many levels of minor leagues, waivers and trades to try and help their teams with and, except for the trade deadline, they are not limited in the amount of moves they can make, so why should we be?

Fourth, it takes away some of the enjoyment I get out of the fantasy game. I like tinkering with my team, I like checking it out on a daily basis. If I'm limited on the amount of moves I can make, I see that reducing my enjoyment of the game. If you don't like tinkering with your team...fine, then don't...but don't restrict my ability to do so.

Fifth, I've never played head to head before, but won't one possibly be making more moves than in a rotisserie league to match up with their next opponent?

Lastly, if we're paying extra to get additional stat packages won't restricting our moves also be restricting the use of what we're paying extra for?


metsman5 - 2/21/2007 at 03:18 PM

I'm with ozzie. I say no restrictions. I rarely trade but do pick up free agents to try and better my team.


RobFilmMusic - 2/21/2007 at 03:28 PM

quote:

Second, it gives too much weight to the draft. God forbid you can't make the draft or your team suffers alot of injuries, now you're limited in how you can try and repair the damage?



Well, I think placing importance on the draft should be empahsized. Part of a draft is drafting players who aren't injury prone........

quote:
Third, it's unrealistic. Real GM's have many levels of minor leagues, waivers and trades to try and help their teams with and, except for the trade deadline, they are not limited in the amount of moves they can make, so why should we be?


Do real GMs draft a team every season?

quote:
Fourth, it takes away some of the enjoyment I get out of the fantasy game. I like tinkering with my team, I like checking it out on a daily basis. If I'm limited on the amount of moves I can make, I see that reducing my enjoyment of the game. If you don't like tinkering with your team...fine, then don't...but don't restrict my ability to do so.


Ozzy, I don't think anyone here will not tinker with their team at all nor do we want to reduce enjoyment of the game for you or anyone. I usually use well over 35 in a season easily myself..... Like TexGent said 'churning' players is what the issue is..... If your infield is devastated and you have 100 moves i think that would be more than enough IMHO.

But on the flip side if you do not have the limit and say Beltran struggles for 2 weeks and you drop him for Matt Kemp...... You ain't getting him back soon.


Rubba - 2/21/2007 at 03:55 PM

quote:
But on the flip side if you do not have the limit and say Beltran struggles for 2 weeks and you drop him for Matt Kemp...... You ain't getting him back soon.


This is why I am against limits. Let the faint-hearted drop the struggling studs in favor of the hot bat. I'll be more than happy to snatch them up and weather the storm until they return to form. Can you say, "Jonny Gomes" or "Chris Shelton"????


ozzypie - 2/21/2007 at 06:20 PM

quote:
quote:

Second, it gives too much weight to the draft. God forbid you can't make the draft or your team suffers alot of injuries, now you're limited in how you can try and repair the damage?



Well, I think placing importance on the draft should be empahsized. Part of a draft is drafting players who aren't injury prone........

That's true but only one part of the equation, just as many players get hurt who aren't what we'd consider injury prone. I've also found that there are ALOT of players who are 'first half' or 'second half players', why should we be restricted in our ability to speculate on who they are and shuffle them around when we'd like to try and get a competetive edge?

quote:
Third, it's unrealistic. Real GM's have many levels of minor leagues, waivers and trades to try and help their teams with and, except for the trade deadline, they are not limited in the amount of moves they can make, so why should we be?


Do real GMs draft a team every season?

Somewhat....turnover is so high from year to year even without a salary cap that real GM's seem to be more like us fantasy ones every year, lol.

quote:
Fourth, it takes away some of the enjoyment I get out of the fantasy game. I like tinkering with my team, I like checking it out on a daily basis. If I'm limited on the amount of moves I can make, I see that reducing my enjoyment of the game. If you don't like tinkering with your team...fine, then don't...but don't restrict my ability to do so.


Ozzy, I don't think anyone here will not tinker with their team at all nor do we want to reduce enjoyment of the game for you or anyone. I usually use well over 35 in a season easily myself..... Like TexGent said 'churning' players is what the issue is..... If your infield is devastated and you have 100 moves i think that would be more than enough IMHO.

But on the flip side if you do not have the limit and say Beltran struggles for 2 weeks and you drop him for Matt Kemp...... You ain't getting him back soon.



Rob, What exactly is the definition of churning? If it's a high turnover rate of players on one's team, what is wrong with that? That seems to be alot more of a skill than sticking with the majority of one's drafted players and letting fate take it's course. Again it gets back to the disproportionate importance of the draft IMHO. No offense, but I've played yahoo fantasy sports for a while now, and have quite a few trophy's, and almost every one of those trophy teams bore little resembalance at the end of the year to the team at the beginning. The bottom line to this whole endeavor is management, putting limitations on our ability to do so seems counterproductive to me.







RobFilmMusic - 2/21/2007 at 07:09 PM

quote:
quote:
quote:

Second, it gives too much weight to the draft. God forbid you can't make the draft or your team suffers alot of injuries, now you're limited in how you can try and repair the damage?



Well, I think placing importance on the draft should be empahsized. Part of a draft is drafting players who aren't injury prone........

That's true but only one part of the equation, just as many players get hurt who aren't what we'd consider injury prone. I've also found that there are ALOT of players who are 'first half' or 'second half players', why should we be restricted in our ability to speculate on who they are and shuffle them around when we'd like to try and get a competetive edge?

quote:
Third, it's unrealistic. Real GM's have many levels of minor leagues, waivers and trades to try and help their teams with and, except for the trade deadline, they are not limited in the amount of moves they can make, so why should we be?


Do real GMs draft a team every season?

Somewhat....turnover is so high from year to year even without a salary cap that real GM's seem to be more like us fantasy ones every year, lol.

quote:
Fourth, it takes away some of the enjoyment I get out of the fantasy game. I like tinkering with my team, I like checking it out on a daily basis. If I'm limited on the amount of moves I can make, I see that reducing my enjoyment of the game. If you don't like tinkering with your team...fine, then don't...but don't restrict my ability to do so.


Ozzy, I don't think anyone here will not tinker with their team at all nor do we want to reduce enjoyment of the game for you or anyone. I usually use well over 35 in a season easily myself..... Like TexGent said 'churning' players is what the issue is..... If your infield is devastated and you have 100 moves i think that would be more than enough IMHO.

But on the flip side if you do not have the limit and say Beltran struggles for 2 weeks and you drop him for Matt Kemp...... You ain't getting him back soon.



Rob, What exactly is the definition of churning? If it's a high turnover rate of players on one's team, what is wrong with that? That seems to be alot more of a skill than sticking with the majority of one's drafted players and letting fate take it's course. Again it gets back to the disproportionate importance of the draft IMHO. No offense, but I've played yahoo fantasy sports for a while now, and have quite a few trophy's, and almost every one of those trophy teams bore little resembalance at the end of the year to the team at the beginning. The bottom line to this whole endeavor is management, putting limitations on our ability to do so seems counterproductive to me.




Ozzy, when i mean 'churning' it's when by the end of the season a manager seems to have made 250 moves to pick up the guy who's smoking the ball. Usually when that happens it seems that the person who does this picks up the hot bat every 2 days and i just don't see any skill, management or foresight in that. Plus it's a little annoying when half of the available players are on 2 day waivers b/c of one person. It just seems like a cheap way to win IMHO. I think by having a core group of players and having about 5-8 rotating spots on your roster more closely resembles a baseball team rather than 28 spots that are always a hot bat. I've been in yahoo leagues as well where my roster barely resembles draft day at all and i've come out all right or excellent and i've had times where i've stuck with about 20 players and done great.... It's all changing every year....


LinnieXX - 2/21/2007 at 07:17 PM

hi guys.

sorry to interupt, but i thought of you all when i came across this, written by a friend of mine:


THE SPIRITUALITY OF BASEBALL

by: Vincent DiPasquale

The most beautiful definition of spirituality is to awaken and discover the message of life. The Higher Power has created each of us and gives us a gift of life. The purpose of life is to discover who you are in conjunction with God's creation. One of the greatest gifts I received over the years is the gift of the game of baseball. Over the years, the basics of the game has not changed; unfortunately the god of money has tried to steal the real meaning of the game. Yet, that is the journey of life; the battle between the God of our understanding and the gods of greed and power. Baseball is a gift that teaches us about life. From its early beginning when we needed to play a game just to relax, to the 1920's when baseball survived a major scandal (Black Sox), by giving us heros of many faces from the insanity of Ty Cobbs to the gentle, humble man - Lou Gehrig. We have seen all types of people and experienced the human condition in this wonderful sport. We have witnessed life. From the sandlots to Little League to semi-pro and professional to the softball games played on the asphalt of South Philadelphia to the green country fields of dreams. From stick ball on a city street to high school and college ball. From broom sticks and cracked bats to aluminum bats and Louisville Sluggers, this game touches us all. In the forties during the war and ever since the Depression, baseball went on. It was our relief from stress and depression. It was our way to take a break from our problems and for a few hours we could relax and live our dreams in a game. From the fifties, we have seen the struggle and the breaking of the racial barring by Jackie Robinson and Larry Doby. Baseball reflected life. From the negro leagues to the big leagues, we experience life. The sport truly explores the great struggle of life.

From the golden years of baseball to the money years of baseball, the dream of every little child is to put on a big league uniform and play between the chalk lines. Baseball truly is a gift. This dream is possible on any day of the week on baseball fields around the world. In the game, you can be an instant hero and fall flat on your face in the same game. In Field of Dreams, we feel the bond between parent and child. We see Shoeless Joe say that heaven is playing baseball. Lou Gehrig, in a dying tribute said, "I'm the luckiest man on the face of the earth." We all need heros and everyone wants to be a hero. Just for a few moments--to make the catch that saves the game; to hit the home run in the bottom of the ninth; or to feel the sting of defeat in "Casey at the Bat."

I would like to share the story of a spiritual journey, a journey to a child. A little boy, lonely and sad, created his world. He had a dream. In his loneliness, he created the dream through his baseball cards. His heros became his friends. He played stick ball and learned to be creative, like making a baseball out of a golf ball, rubber bands and thick tape. He created a bat from an ax handle. Baseball had already taught him how to deal with life. You see, baseball is like life. Itís played between the lines, there are rules, it's a game of inches. Even the best hitter only makes it 30% of the time. It's a game of hustle and skill and, like life, you need to get dirty. Some days things work, some days they don't. Things always balance out. On any given day, anything can happen. Like it's not over until it's over. There's always a chance. You can make mistakes and still come back. It's a game that involves patience and endurance. It's a game that humbles you. You never stop learning.



This little boy grew into a man; he didn't really know himself. In fact, he hated himself by trying too hard. Then one day he found his child; he learned about life on a baseball field. It became his new church with green grass and brown dirt and it was a special place where he could be close to God. Sitting in the dugout and watching the sun come up on Easter Sunday, he could feel God's presence. In this simple game, he learned about life. He learned how to play and socialize and how to be a little boy again. In life you try hard, you struggle, you succeed and sometimes you fail; it all balances out. In the game like life, there are rules, there are guides that help you through life. Like life, there is a beginning and an end. It is not important whether you win or lose. It's how you play the game that counts.

Things in life always balance out. This little boy found out that life is a gift. It's fragile, but it must always be respected and honored. In life, you even get to meet your dream. Your hero is a human being like you. He has hurt, he struggles, and he has pain just like you. We are all heros and fools at one time or another.

Baseball is like life. You cry, scream, yell, get frustrated, and sometimes you celebrate. When you wake up in the morning and God yells, "Play Ball!"; give it your best shot, learn what you can, and don't forget to enjoy it. Life, like baseball, is a great teacher.

Life is a spiritual journey. You play it one day at a time. Each day brings you a new experience. If you truly believe youíll be led, the Higher Power, like the baseball Gods, is in charge; we are simply servants open to be led. Enjoy each day. Give it your best. Remember, you are a gift created by God. As Yogi says, ďIt ainít over Ďtill itís over.Ē Letís play too.




ozzypie - 2/21/2007 at 08:21 PM

quote:
quote:
quote:
quote:

Second, it gives too much weight to the draft. God forbid you can't make the draft or your team suffers alot of injuries, now you're limited in how you can try and repair the damage?



Well, I think placing importance on the draft should be empahsized. Part of a draft is drafting players who aren't injury prone........

That's true but only one part of the equation, just as many players get hurt who aren't what we'd consider injury prone. I've also found that there are ALOT of players who are 'first half' or 'second half players', why should we be restricted in our ability to speculate on who they are and shuffle them around when we'd like to try and get a competetive edge?

quote:
Third, it's unrealistic. Real GM's have many levels of minor leagues, waivers and trades to try and help their teams with and, except for the trade deadline, they are not limited in the amount of moves they can make, so why should we be?


Do real GMs draft a team every season?

Somewhat....turnover is so high from year to year even without a salary cap that real GM's seem to be more like us fantasy ones every year, lol.

quote:
Fourth, it takes away some of the enjoyment I get out of the fantasy game. I like tinkering with my team, I like checking it out on a daily basis. If I'm limited on the amount of moves I can make, I see that reducing my enjoyment of the game. If you don't like tinkering with your team...fine, then don't...but don't restrict my ability to do so.


Ozzy, I don't think anyone here will not tinker with their team at all nor do we want to reduce enjoyment of the game for you or anyone. I usually use well over 35 in a season easily myself..... Like TexGent said 'churning' players is what the issue is..... If your infield is devastated and you have 100 moves i think that would be more than enough IMHO.

But on the flip side if you do not have the limit and say Beltran struggles for 2 weeks and you drop him for Matt Kemp...... You ain't getting him back soon.



Rob, What exactly is the definition of churning? If it's a high turnover rate of players on one's team, what is wrong with that? That seems to be alot more of a skill than sticking with the majority of one's drafted players and letting fate take it's course. Again it gets back to the disproportionate importance of the draft IMHO. No offense, but I've played yahoo fantasy sports for a while now, and have quite a few trophy's, and almost every one of those trophy teams bore little resembalance at the end of the year to the team at the beginning. The bottom line to this whole endeavor is management, putting limitations on our ability to do so seems counterproductive to me.




Ozzy, when i mean 'churning' it's when by the end of the season a manager seems to have made 250 moves to pick up the guy who's smoking the ball. Usually when that happens it seems that the person who does this picks up the hot bat every 2 days and i just don't see any skill, management or foresight in that. Plus it's a little annoying when half of the available players are on 2 day waivers b/c of one person. It just seems like a cheap way to win IMHO. I think by having a core group of players and having about 5-8 rotating spots on your roster more closely resembles a baseball team rather than 28 spots that are always a hot bat. I've been in yahoo leagues as well where my roster barely resembles draft day at all and i've come out all right or excellent and i've had times where i've stuck with about 20 players and done great.... It's all changing every year....



My name is Jim and I'm a Churner, lol.

The only thing we agree on is the waiver delay rule. That can be changed by our esteemed commisioner. If a player gets dropped he can become available immediately...first come first served. That, to me, seems fair and rewards those who pay the closest attention.

As for the rest, I still see 'churning' as a skill. Remember 12 teams times 22 roster spots equals the top 264 players being spoken for. That makes churning even more of a skill because you're really scraping the bottom of the barrel to try and improve your team if churning interests you.

Another facet of churning skill is the players you drop are often better than the ones you churn, so maybe one will think twice before churning.

Remember too, alot of times when one finally picks up the hot bat, it is no longer hot...another churning skill.

Yet another churning skill might be matching ones players to the teams they will be playing that week, or the ballparks they will be playing in.

The list goes on and on.

This is the USA damnit...freedom to churn...the right to churn!


WharfRat - 2/22/2007 at 02:10 AM

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The only thing we agree on is the waiver delay rule. That can be changed by our esteemed commisioner. If a player gets dropped he can become available immediately...first come first served. That, to me, seems fair and rewards those who pay the closest attention.


Esteemed commishioner.. I like that

As for Waivers... Currently there is a 2 day wait.
Your draft order( which will be random and computer gererated, BTW) determines your waiver priority.
In other words, if you have the #1 pick in the draft, you are LAST in waiver priority.


I see some valid points on the Max Moves issue.
personally, I make ALOT of waiver moves. Not because I go after the "hot bat", but because I seem to attract injury prone players


By the way, we can still change the head to head thing.
I can change anything until the season starts.


crossroad_blues - 2/22/2007 at 02:31 AM

Whatever is decided is fine with me. This is for fun, right?

Just let me know at least a week ahead of time when draft day (& time) is.

P.S. Thanks Linnie.



[Edited on 2/22/2007 by crossroad_blues]


WharfRat - 2/22/2007 at 02:32 AM

If we do the "plus" thing, I would like to move the draft to Sunday, March 25 at night..


WharfRat - 2/22/2007 at 02:41 AM

Ozzie is a smart guy


crossroad_blues - 2/22/2007 at 02:42 AM

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I've been reading this thread and I thought that you guys were really serious about it. Then I read the term "esteemed commissioner".




That's "Lord High Esteemed Commissioner" to you Outsiders!

We just call him "King Commish"......................(If we don't he gets real pissy )


WharfRat - 2/22/2007 at 02:47 AM

quote:
quote:
I've been reading this thread and I thought that you guys were really serious about it. Then I read the term "esteemed commissioner".




That's "Lord High Esteemed Commissioner" to you Outsiders!

We just call him "King Commish"......................(If we don't he gets real pissy )




I can be bribed with Beer by they way


RobFilmMusic - 2/22/2007 at 08:35 AM

quote:
Ozzie is a smart guy


Ozzie Smith?


RobFilmMusic - 2/22/2007 at 08:41 AM

BTW who are we still missin?


WharfRat - 2/22/2007 at 09:52 AM

Crosscut

Cupofjo and son ( He has some family issues right now .. He is definately in though)


Crosscut3 - 2/22/2007 at 11:51 AM

Hi guys, just back from vacation in sunny florida. I will get everything over the next day or so. Could someone give me a link and password to get into the league. I also would be ok with paying in to get the premium stats etc. I would've done it on my own anyways. I have a few loose vines and such to get taken care of, when I get those done, I'll do the base ball stuff. Game on!!!


Crosscut3 - 2/22/2007 at 12:00 PM

I haven't had a chance to catchup on everything, but I would vote against limiting moves. Part of the game for me is trying to find the hot hand at the right time.


Crosscut3 - 2/22/2007 at 02:57 PM

I'm in. Mash Mashers is the name. See you guys over there.


metsman5 - 2/22/2007 at 09:34 PM

What is wrong with you guys? I'm the only one with an ABB related name. What a bunch of losers!


ThePeteMan - 2/22/2007 at 10:58 PM

quote:
What is wrong with you guys? I'm the only one with an ABB related name. What a bunch of losers!


You don't like Howlin' Wolf? Duane did.


metsman5 - 2/23/2007 at 01:21 PM

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quote:
What is wrong with you guys? I'm the only one with an ABB related name. What a bunch of losers!


You don't like Howlin' Wolf? Duane did.


Not familiar with his music - but I guess you get a half point for being vaguely related.


cupofjo - 2/23/2007 at 10:42 PM

quote:
Crosscut

Cupofjo and son ( He has some family issues right now .. He is definately in though)



I am here

Will set up by this weekend!


RobFilmMusic - 2/23/2007 at 11:00 PM

quote:
quote:
Crosscut

Cupofjo and son ( He has some family issues right now .. He is definately in though)



I am here

Will set up by this weekend!


Welcome back Rob ......... Hope everything is well.


crossroad_blues - 2/24/2007 at 01:50 AM

quote:
quote:
Crosscut

Cupofjo and son ( He has some family issues right now .. He is definately in though)



I am here

Will set up by this weekend!


Good to have you back Rob

Hope you have found some peace.


WharfRat - 2/24/2007 at 05:56 AM

quote:
Savin' my empties so I can afford my Wharfball fee.



I just noticed this... LMAO!!!!!


cupofjo - 2/26/2007 at 03:46 AM

OK! I am set up and ready to go.

Ben is too.


cupofjo - 2/26/2007 at 03:51 AM

quote:


Welcome back Rob ......... Hope everything is well.



quote:


Good to have you back Rob

Hope you have found some peace.





Thanks Rob and Chuck.


RobFilmMusic - 2/26/2007 at 05:57 AM

Chuck, is the better online draft date still available?.......


WharfRat - 2/26/2007 at 11:22 AM

quote:
Chuck, is the better online draft date still available?.......


Everyone.. check your email ( the one you use for the league)
We need to vote on a few things..


ozzypie - 2/26/2007 at 01:50 PM

Yes SIR!


WharfRat - 3/8/2007 at 03:08 AM

quote:
Chuck, is the better online draft date still available?.......


heads up



Your draft is currently scheduled for Sunday March 25, 2007 at 7:45 pm EDT


cupofjo - 3/8/2007 at 01:20 PM

Alright


crossroad_blues - 3/9/2007 at 03:07 AM

^

quote:

Your draft is currently scheduled for Sunday March 25, 2007 at 7:45 pm EDT




Be there or be square!

...(now watch; I'll forget )


Crosscut3 - 3/20/2007 at 10:52 AM

This note is being sent to remind you that your team in league ABBrotherhood(33527) is scheduled to take part in a live online draft on Wed Mar 21 05:00pm EDT.


Are we still on for Sunday?


ozzypie - 3/20/2007 at 12:09 PM

I got the same note...umm Mr Commish???


Crosscut3 - 3/20/2007 at 04:20 PM

I think that we are set. If you look at the team/league page it has the draft listed as sunday. Just a yahoo mix up it looks like. See you there!


ozzypie - 3/20/2007 at 05:03 PM

A 'Yahoo mix up' is that possible? I will be consulting with the commish this evening, under his barstool, and I'm sure that he will clear things up.


cupofjo - 3/22/2007 at 08:59 PM

Tick, tick, tick


WharfRat - 3/23/2007 at 12:29 AM

Draft this Sunday at 7:45 PM

Ignore all other times and dates

On a side note, as I told Ozzy and Pete, I MAY be a little late. You guys will still be able to start without me being there. My other draft is later then I thought.. grrr.


phillybob - 3/23/2007 at 01:25 AM

sheizer how did i miss this damn i need to quit smokin da chit.


WharfRat - 3/23/2007 at 01:26 AM

LMAO

I was wondering why you didnt sign up Bob..


ozzypie - 3/23/2007 at 01:10 PM

quote:
Draft this Sunday at 7:45 PM

Ignore all other times and dates

On a side note, as I told Ozzy and Pete, I MAY be a little late. You guys will still be able to start without me being there. My other draft is later then I thought.. grrr.



It would be a shame if you were late Chuck, all the great Yankees might be gone!!!


WharfRat - 3/23/2007 at 01:15 PM

quote:
quote:
Draft this Sunday at 7:45 PM

Ignore all other times and dates

On a side note, as I told Ozzy and Pete, I MAY be a little late. You guys will still be able to start without me being there. My other draft is later then I thought.. grrr.



It would be a shame if you were late Chuck, all the great Yankees might be gone!!!






Dude, I am impressed.

When you first saw me on Tuesday your first words werent 'Yankees Suck"

You gettting soft on me pal?


ozzypie - 3/23/2007 at 03:37 PM

quote:
quote:
quote:
Draft this Sunday at 7:45 PM

Ignore all other times and dates

On a side note, as I told Ozzy and Pete, I MAY be a little late. You guys will still be able to start without me being there. My other draft is later then I thought.. grrr.



It would be a shame if you were late Chuck, all the great Yankees might be gone!!!






Dude, I am impressed.

When you first saw me on Tuesday your first words werent 'Yankees Suck"

You gettting soft on me pal?



You're forgetting the fact that it was a milestone birthday for you, so I had to cut you a little slack!

Besides, I did let you touch my Mets jacket (and you KNOW you loved it!!!)


WharfRat - 3/23/2007 at 05:27 PM

quote:
quote:
quote:
quote:
Draft this Sunday at 7:45 PM

Ignore all other times and dates

On a side note, as I told Ozzy and Pete, I MAY be a little late. You guys will still be able to start without me being there. My other draft is later then I thought.. grrr.



It would be a shame if you were late Chuck, all the great Yankees might be gone!!!






Dude, I am impressed.

When you first saw me on Tuesday your first words werent 'Yankees Suck"

You gettting soft on me pal?



You're forgetting the fact that it was a milestone birthday for you, so I had to cut you a little slack!

Besides, I did let you touch my Mets jacket (and you KNOW you loved it!!!)


No, I was trying to rip the logo off


ozzypie - 3/24/2007 at 03:19 PM

quote:
quote:
quote:
quote:
quote:
Draft this Sunday at 7:45 PM

Ignore all other times and dates

On a side note, as I told Ozzy and Pete, I MAY be a little late. You guys will still be able to start without me being there. My other draft is later then I thought.. grrr.



It would be a shame if you were late Chuck, all the great Yankees might be gone!!!






Dude, I am impressed.

When you first saw me on Tuesday your first words werent 'Yankees Suck"

You gettting soft on me pal?



You're forgetting the fact that it was a milestone birthday for you, so I had to cut you a little slack!

Besides, I did let you touch my Mets jacket (and you KNOW you loved it!!!)


No, I was trying to rip the logo off



Well dude, you don't have to do that!

If you want one that bad I'll be happy to get you one!!!


crossroad_blues - 3/26/2007 at 01:40 AM

Well the live draft is over.

First one I participated in. Definately loads of fun.

Thanks guys, thanks Wharfy.


WharfRat - 3/26/2007 at 01:42 AM

That was fun eh fellas?


cupofjo - 3/26/2007 at 01:47 AM

Hey now that was a blast!


cupofjo - 3/26/2007 at 01:48 AM

That was a lot tougher than I thought it would be!


crossroad_blues - 3/26/2007 at 01:52 AM

quote:
That was fun eh fellas?


'bout as much fun I could have with my pants on.


WharfRat - 3/26/2007 at 02:07 AM

quote:
quote:
That was fun eh fellas?


'bout as much fun I could have with my pants on.




Well, pants were optional


crossroad_blues - 3/27/2007 at 12:36 AM

quote:
quote:
quote:
That was fun eh fellas?


'bout as much fun I could have with my pants on.




Well, pants were optional


Yeah, but I didn't want some of the newer people in there to get a bad(der) impression of me.


cupofjo - 3/27/2007 at 11:32 AM

Hey now! Pants are only optional on Thursdays


cupofjo - 4/2/2007 at 12:48 AM

PLAY BALL!!!


[Edited on 4/2/2007 by cupofjo]


WharfRat - 4/2/2007 at 01:13 AM

quote:
PLAY BALL!!!





Ohh yea


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