Thread: Good news on the election front...

SquatchTexas - 8/9/2006 at 03:41 AM

Joe is out of a job (goodnight, funnyman)

Cynthia has more time to work on her hair. Yay.

Cleaning house!


wavrnr - 8/9/2006 at 09:42 AM

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Joe is out of a job (goodnight, funnyman)




You might want to hold off your celebration until after November.


Benjamin - 8/9/2006 at 10:34 AM

Radio said preliminary polling indicates Joe wins as an Independent when all the voters can vote in November.

Who knows though....


dutchoneill - 8/9/2006 at 11:48 AM

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Radio said preliminary polling indicates Joe wins as an Independent when all the voters can vote in November.

Who knows though....


I don't see it, if Joe doesn't fit into the how the democrats are positioning themselves, I don't see him making a run in November.

Maybe he can move further south and pull a Jumpin Joe or is it Jim Jefferies move.
Wouldn't be the first politico to move and get elected.

[Edited on 8/9/2006 by dutchoneill]


chris - 8/9/2006 at 12:13 PM

Just curious- how would the middle east respond to a jewish president?


carlosofcoronado - 8/9/2006 at 12:21 PM

Chris wrote:
"Just curious- how would the middle east respond to a jewish president?"

Well, based on recent events in the SF bay area, not to good


BigDaveOnBass - 8/9/2006 at 12:27 PM

Squatch, are you a Georgian? Oh, right...SquatchTexas.

Thanks for helping Georgians celebrate McKinney's defeat.


piacere - 8/9/2006 at 12:42 PM

Leiberman, he's stickin' around, claiming the two-party system is too confining and divisive. (because he lost)

pride and ego might have a little bit to do with him on the ballot in Nov.

Conn. has a large Indy voter bloc. He knows it, too.


Peachypetewi - 8/9/2006 at 01:19 PM

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Just curious- how would the middle east respond to a jewish president?


It will make absolutely no difference. They already view the USA as "Zionists" in bed with Israel. Thus no measurable difference.


SquatchTexas - 8/9/2006 at 01:25 PM

Joe needs to listen to the will of the Democratic voters and respect the fact that he lost. If he intends to run as an Indy, he should be removed from every committee he is sitting on since he is apparently not representing the Dems any longer. Who knew you could get two wearings out of the "Sore Loserman" TShirts?


SquatchTexas - 8/9/2006 at 01:27 PM

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Squatch, are you a Georgian? Oh, right...SquatchTexas.

Thanks for helping Georgians celebrate McKinney's defeat.


The woman was a total embarassment in most cases. Other times I respected her standing on positions. That said, I think a better candidate thats not so much of a lightning rod would be better for the Dems. I sure hope they get it.


Marley - 8/9/2006 at 03:18 PM

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Cynthia has more time to work on her hair. Yay.

Good news for you, but bad news for security guards everywhere.

The polls about Lieberman winning as an independent are already old news in my opinion. He's already losing support from prominent Democrats, and now that he's officially lost I think the damage will start showing up in the polls pretty soon. His aides say he will quit if new polls show he doesn't have a chance. I wouldn't be surprised if Joementum doesn't make it to November.


Benjamin - 8/9/2006 at 03:37 PM

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Cynthia has more time to work on her hair. Yay.

Good news for you, but bad news for security guards everywhere.

The polls about Lieberman winning as an independent are already old news in my opinion. He's already losing support from prominent Democrats, and now that he's officially lost I think the damage will start showing up in the polls pretty soon. His aides say he will quit if new polls show he doesn't have a chance. I wouldn't be surprised if Joementum doesn't make it to November.


I agree - the polls "the radio" mentioned and I repeated are from June or earlier.
Having lost the primary will make a difference August thru early November....

Again, who knows....I haven't lived in CT since 1988.


fast43 - 8/9/2006 at 03:40 PM

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Joe needs to listen to the will of the Democratic voters and respect the fact that he lost. If he intends to run as an Indy, he should be removed from every committee he is sitting on since he is apparently not representing the Dems any longer. Who knew you could get two wearings out of the "Sore Loserman" TShirts?


I thought he was there to represent ALL of the people from his state.

I guess the republicans should not be paying taxes. Taxation without representation

[Edited on 8/9/2006 by fast43]


musichick3 - 8/9/2006 at 04:27 PM

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Squatch, are you a Georgian? Oh, right...SquatchTexas.

Thanks for helping Georgians celebrate McKinney's defeat.


The woman was a total embarassment in most cases. Other times I respected her standing on positions. That said, I think a better candidate thats not so much of a lightning rod would be better for the Dems. I sure hope they get it.



I agree with that...she was getting way to controversial with her behavior.


musichick3 - 8/9/2006 at 04:29 PM

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Joe needs to listen to the will of the Democratic voters and respect the fact that he lost. If he intends to run as an Indy, he should be removed from every committee he is sitting on since he is apparently not representing the Dems any longer. Who knew you could get two wearings out of the "Sore Loserman" TShirts?


I thought he was there to represent ALL of the people from his state.

I guess the republicans should not be paying taxes. Taxation without representation

[Edited on 8/9/2006 by fast43]



Yea, but like Chambliss here in Georgia might be "my" representative, he certainly doesn't represent my views since he's a Republican. It's tough to be blue or green (as in my case) in a red state . lol What ST meant is that he is a member of the Democratic party at this point. He needs to resign his membership if he doesn't want to be one now.



[Edited on 8/9/2006 by musichick3]


DerekFromCincinnati - 8/9/2006 at 05:10 PM

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Chris wrote:
"Just curious- how would the middle east respond to a jewish president?"

Well, based on recent events in the SF bay area, not to good


The question now days is, how would liberals deal with it. Let's start here,

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http://www.opinionjournal.com/extra/?id=110008763

CAMPAIGN 2006

Liberal McCarthyism
Bigotry and hate aren't just for right-wingers anymore.

BY LANNY J. DAVIS
Tuesday, August 8, 2006 12:01 a.m. EDT

WASHINGTON--My brief and unhappy experience with the hate and vitriol of bloggers on the liberal side of the aisle comes from the last several months I spent campaigning for a longtime friend, Joe Lieberman.

This kind of scary hatred, my dad used to tell me, comes only from the right wing--in his day from people such as the late Sen. Joseph McCarthy, with his tirades against "communists and their fellow travelers." The word "McCarthyism" became a red flag for liberals, signifying the far right's fascistic tactics of labeling anyone a "communist" or "socialist" who favored an active federal government to help the middle class and the poor, and to level the playing field.

I came to believe that we liberals couldn't possibly be so intolerant and hateful, because our ideology was famous for ACLU-type commitments to free speech, dissent and, especially, tolerance for those who differed with us. And in recent years--with the deadly combination of sanctimony and vitriol displayed by the likes of Rush Limbaugh, Ann Coulter and Michael Savage--I held on to the view that the left was inherently more tolerant and less hateful than the right.





Now, in the closing days of the Lieberman primary campaign, I have reluctantly concluded that I was wrong. The far right does not have a monopoly on bigotry and hatred and sanctimony. Here are just a few examples (there are many, many more anyone with a search engine can find) of the type of thing the liberal blog sites have been posting about Joe Lieberman:
"Ned Lamont and his supporters need to [g]et real busy. Ned needs to beat Lieberman to a pulp in the debate and define what it means to be an AMerican who is NOT beholden to the Israeli Lobby" (by "rim," posted on Huffington Post, July 6, 2006).

"Joe's on the Senate floor now and he's growing a beard. He has about a weeks growth on his face. . . . I hope he dyes his beard Blood red. It would be so appropriate" (by "ctkeith," posted on Daily Kos, July 11 and 12, 2005).

On "Lieberman vs. Murtha": "as everybody knows, jews ONLY care about the welfare of other jews; thanks ever so much for reminding everyone of this most salient fact, so that we might better ignore all that jewish propaganda [by Lieberman] about participating in the civil rights movement of the 60s and so on" (by "tomjones," posted on Daily Kos, Dec. 7, 2005).

"Good men, Daniel Webster and Faust would attest, sell their souls to the Devil. Is selling your soul to a god any worse? Leiberman cannot escape the religious bond he represents. Hell, his wife's name is Haggadah or Muffeletta or Diaspora or something you eat at Passover" (by "gerrylong," posted on the Huffington Post, July 8, 2006).

"Joe Lieberman is a racist and a religious bigot" (by "greenskeeper," posted on Daily Kos, Dec. 7, 2005).

And these are some of the nicer examples.

One Sunday morning on C-Span I debated Nation editor Katrina vanden Heuvel on the Lieberman versus Lamont race. Afterwards I received a series of emails--many of them in ALL CAPS (which often suggests the hyper-frenetic state of these extremist haters)--that were of the same stripe as the blog posts, and filled with the same level of personal hate.

But the issue is not just emotional outbursts by these usually anonymous bloggers. A friend of mine just returned from Connecticut, where he had spoken on several occasions on behalf of Joe Lieberman. He happens to be a liberal antiwar Democrat, just as I am. He is also a lawyer. He told me that within a day of a Lamont event--where he asked the candidate some critical questions--some of his clients were blitzed with emails attacking him and threatening boycotts of their products if they did not drop him as their attorney. He has actually decided not to return to Connecticut for the primary today; he is fearful for his physical safety.





I do not blame Joe Lieberman's political difficulties on the liberal blogosphere. Most Connecticut Democrats voting for Mr. Lamont are genuinely outraged at President Bush for his Iraq War policies. They are entitled to express that outrage by voting for him and against Sen. Lieberman on that basis alone, although Sen. Lieberman's record as a progressive Democrat and his opposition to President Bush not only on most domestic issues but also on the conduct of the war cannot be disputed--despite egregiously distortive ads paid for by Mr. Lamont with $4 million of his own money.
Moreover, the support he gets from these haters should not be attributed to Mr. Lamont--nor should he be blamed for their extremism, bigotry and intolerance. But he ought to denounce them. He hasn't as yet.

Mr. Lamont and all other liberal Democrats should remember the McCarthy era and not fall into the trap of the hypocrisy of the double standard--that it's not OK when Ann Coulter dispenses her venomous hatred, but it is OK when our side's versions of Ann Coulter do.

Mr. Davis, former special counsel to President Clinton between 1996-98, is the author of "Scandal: How 'Gotcha' Politics Is Destroying America," forthcoming from Palgrave.




Israel decided to completely leave Southern Lebanon six years ago, and the vaunted United Nations passes UN Resolution 1559 that requires all militia, especially Hezbollah, to be disbanded and leave......and nothing happens. Actually, something does happen, in that Hezbollah hunkers down and re-arms and trains in Iran and digs their tunnels in preparation. Hezbollah, a part of the Islamo-Fascist movement who is backed by scumbag regimes like Syria and Iran attack Israel, bomb Israel, and kidnap two soldiers, and the Liberals and Democrats and the Left of the world go against Israel and directly and indirectly support the Hezbos.

But it doesn't surprise me. Add to that the above article,

the vitriolic anti-semitism that came from the liberal tree huggers during the recent Compton Garden Space episode in LA,

add to that the embracing by liberals on here and elsewhere of a blatant anti-semite in Pat Buchanan.

add to that hezbollah being supported above Israel.

add to that comments on this board including words I won't repeart that start with "J" and end with "boys."

And add to that the picture last night of the post-election speeches in Connecticut. I turned on C-Span about 10:45 PM and watched first Lieberman talk and then Lamont. In light of the brilliant theory that this senate race had no national implications, with scum like Moveon.org all over the place, I see Lamont come out to give his acceptance speech with his wife in front of him and and on his right shoulder is Al Sharpton and on his left shoulder is Jesse "Hymietown" Jackson. When the hell did those guys move to Connecticut??

Could somebody explain to me what that was about???

What a shock that "Hymietown" Jackson is at an anti-Lieberman rally.


As for the race in Conn, in a way this is good, because the Howard Dean-Moveon.org scum side of the party is now in full tilt. This isn't the folks that have become disillusioned because the war hasn't been handled right in the last three years, this is the original folks that wanted Saddam to stay in power, who don't believe that "terrorism" even exists, who do not believe that there is such a thing as a worldwide Islamo-fascist movement, and who walked in the protests and clapped while lowlifes like Ramsey Clark spewed their BS. Bring it to the surface. I'm glad of it. I'd put the mic in front of Howard Dean every hour on the hour.

A question for you Hezbollah supporters out there, how is it that they were defending southern lebanon as they bombed and kidnapped those soldiers to start this thing when Israel had completely pulled out six years ago??

DH


SquatchTexas - 8/9/2006 at 05:29 PM

Aw crap. Dereks back....


fast43 - 8/9/2006 at 06:28 PM

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Joe needs to listen to the will of the Democratic voters and respect the fact that he lost. If he intends to run as an Indy, he should be removed from every committee he is sitting on since he is apparently not representing the Dems any longer. Who knew you could get two wearings out of the "Sore Loserman" TShirts?


I thought he was there to represent ALL of the people from his state.

I guess the republicans should not be paying taxes. Taxation without representation

[Edited on 8/9/2006 by fast43]



Yea, but like Chambliss here in Georgia might be "my" representative, he certainly doesn't represent my views since he's a Republican. It's tough to be blue or green (as in my case) in a red state . lol What ST meant is that he is a member of the Democratic party at this point. He needs to resign his membership if he doesn't want to be one now.



[Edited on 8/9/2006 by musichick3]


My point is and it doesn't matter which party. IMO since there will always be pork barrel spending the job of my represenative is to bring as much of that pig to my district to provide jobs & services.

I think it was Marley recently that said people look to these elections too much on a national level and not enough at the local level. And I think that's what is going on here Lieberman doesn't represent me.


musichick3 - 8/9/2006 at 06:36 PM

And Chambliss doesn't represent me, so should I be required to pay taxes, according to your logic?

I don't think I really get what you're saying.


carlosofcoronado - 8/9/2006 at 07:02 PM

"Liberal McCarthyism
Bigotry and hate aren't just for right-wingers anymore.

BY LANNY J. DAVIS
Tuesday, August 8, 2006 12:01 a.m. EDT "


Damn, and I thought Lanny Davis was a 'good' democrat cause he worked for Bill Clinton , now he has to roil the waters.....


DerekFromCincinnati - 8/9/2006 at 07:13 PM

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"Liberal McCarthyism
Bigotry and hate aren't just for right-wingers anymore.

BY LANNY J. DAVIS
Tuesday, August 8, 2006 12:01 a.m. EDT "


Damn, and I thought Lanny Davis was a 'good' democrat cause he worked for Bill Clinton , now he has to roil the waters.....






Even he had to point out what was going on in his own party.

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Aw crap. Dereks back....



Yep, back from ten days of traveling and living life, and living next to, and breaking bread with, and making music with folks from Ireland, Sweden, Wales, Japan, Canada, the UK, the Ukraine and the US from Alaska to Louisiana, agreeing, disagreeing, yet still living large. Try it sometime, Squatch, you might learn something. In fact, I'm being interviewed for a Ukrainian magazine as we speak.

http://www.allmanbrothersband.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=XForum&am p;file=viewthread&tid=46756&page=3



fast43 - 8/9/2006 at 08:11 PM

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And Chambliss doesn't represent me, so should I be required to pay taxes, according to your logic?

I don't think I really get what you're saying.


No you don't and I should know better than to get into these debates with people that see everything as either left or right, blue or red and ABSOLUTELY NO middle ground. Lieberman is there to try to represent everyone not just Democrats. I think he very middle of the road and honestly thought after the VP debates that he should be the one running for President.

Chambliss (whoever he may be)or any other representative, their #1 job (IMO) is to go to Washington and bring funding to your town and state to make improvements to local infrastructure to attract jobs, tourism, improve community services and whatnot to improve the local economy.

If he has done that then he represents you. I know on my last trip to UGA for a football game I saw some road improvements going on.


musichick3 - 8/9/2006 at 08:45 PM

Well, pardon me for asking. lol


I just thought if a rep or candidate identifies him/herself as being affiliated with a particular party, that's generally what their views are going to coincide with. I could be wrong....
but not in Saxby Chambliss' case. He's about as conservative as can be which goes along with his chosen political party's platform.


KnownRider - 8/9/2006 at 08:46 PM

What kind of a name is Saxby anyway?


musichick3 - 8/9/2006 at 09:03 PM

LOL I wondered that too, KR.


BigDaveOnBass - 8/9/2006 at 09:39 PM

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What kind of a name is Saxby anyway?
I think his family owns a chain of chicken restaurants.


KnownRider - 8/9/2006 at 09:48 PM

LOL!


SquatchTexas - 8/9/2006 at 09:56 PM

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No you don't and I should know better than to get into these debates with people that see everything as either left or right, blue or red and ABSOLUTELY NO middle ground. Lieberman is there to try to represent everyone not just Democrats. I think he very middle of the road and honestly thought after the VP debates that he should be the one running for President.


He is entirely too close to Bush and the Republicans. He represents nobody but his own interests. Its all about Joe and since he cant lose gracefully, he has elected to split the vote and hurt the Dems in November. And now we have word that Rove has sent word to Lieberman that Bush wants to help him in November. On top of all this, he still supports the debacle in Iraq. I watched a news report this morning that basically said the exit polling reflected the fact that people are more against this war than previously thought as it was a specific reason they voted for Lamont.

Regarding Rove and Bush helping Joe.
http://abcnews.blogs.com/theworldnewser/

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Chambliss (whoever he may be)or any other representative, their #1 job (IMO) is to go to Washington and bring funding to your town and state to make improvements to local infrastructure to attract jobs, tourism, improve community services and whatnot to improve the local economy.


Well, yes, but theres also the national issues to consider such as bills put before our representatives. While its important that they represent the hometown, its doubly important, IMO, that they also represent the will of the voters when it comes to decisions such as stem cell research, war etc. I would also suggest that local issues require local representation. Mayors, city councilmen, county commissioners etc. all have a part to play at the local level thats actually more effective then waiting for the money to trickle down from Washington.


fast43 - 8/9/2006 at 10:23 PM

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I would also suggest that local issues require local representation. Mayors, city councilmen, county commissioners etc. all have a part to play at the local level thats actually more effective then waiting for the money to trickle down from Washington.



It should but it doesn't work that way. All major projects require federal funding of some sort, matching funds or whatever. Your local school runs on some funds from the feds and often can't implement new programs that meet special needs of neighborhoods without fear of losing federal funds. State Medicaid programs run on federal funds. Squatch, I'd bet part of your paycheck comes from federal funds.

That's why I say #1 priorty make sure the funding comes to my town/state.

When this government was established in 1776 it wasn't meant to be the all encompassing monster that is today.


Marley - 8/9/2006 at 10:55 PM

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The question now days is, how would liberals deal with it.

It's the moment you've been waiting for, folks. The guy who likes to play Dr. Mengele with snapping turtles is here to tell us what the Lamont victory is really all about.

Yes, it's DerekWorld, where pretzels are straight lines. Liberals support affirmative action, which is proof they hate black people. [George Bush supports the death penalty because he loves them.] Now liberals hate Jews, especially the Jews who are liberals. Kerry was the most liberal guy in the Senate, and about 80 percent of American Jews voted for him. Clearly, the problem is that Jews hate themselves. Come back, Woody Allen, all is forgiven.
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the Liberals and Democrats and the Left of the world go against Israel and directly and indirectly support the Hezbos.

I'm sure you can find tons of examples to support this.

Senate Resolution 534 passed 98-0. It is "Condemning Hezbollah and Hamas and their state sponsors and supporting Israel's exercise of its right to self-defense." It also calls for the release of the Israeli soldiers, condemns the Iranian and Syrian government for supporting Hezbollah and Hamas. Two days later, the House passed Res. 921, again supporting Israel's right to defend itself and condemning the attacks against Israel. The vote was 410 to 8. From this we conclude that there are, tops, 10 Democrats in Congress. What great news for the GOP!
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this is the original folks that wanted Saddam to stay in power

According to new polls, 60 percent of the public thinks the war was a mistake. Apparently the sin of the left here is that some us knew it was a bad idea from the beginning. If we'd supported it and then been wrong, that'd be fine. Damn us for having a clue!

I can't wait for the next time Derek criticizes the media for not reporting the good news from Iraq. Because it just keeps piling up!
http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/meast/07/18/iraq.main/index.html http://www.cnn.com/2006/POLITICS/08/03/iraq.hearing/index.html http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/meast/08/03/ambassador.iraq/index.html
It's overwhelming!

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Damn, now we have a bunch of new countries pissed off at us.

If you translate Derek's ouevre into Ukranian, I bet it makes sense.

[Edited on 8/9/2006 by Marley]


crossroad_blues - 8/10/2006 at 12:50 AM

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According to new polls, 60 percent of the public thinks the war was a mistake. Apparently the sin of the left here is that some us knew it was a bad idea from the beginning. If we'd supported it and then been wrong, that'd be fine. Damn us for having a clue!

Polls don't mean diddly squat & hindsight is always 20/20.

Is it possible for 60% of us to think the Iraq adventure was (is) a mistake? Quite possible. The important question is, does 60% believe we should have an immediate pull-out? Which is what multi-millionaire Lamont ran on.


Marley - 8/10/2006 at 01:45 AM

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Polls don't mean diddly squat & hindsight is always 20/20.

I'll take that as a compliment to my foresight.
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Is it possible for 60% of us to think the Iraq adventure was (is) a mistake? Quite possible.

There's a margin of error, obviously, but if you're calling the entire science of statistics into question I'm gonna have to ask to see your math.
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The important question is, does 60% believe we should have an immediate pull-out? Which is what multi-millionaire Lamont ran on.

I don't think that's the question at all. My comment was a humble rejoinder to Derek's. Regardless of whether the country supports an immediate pullout or not, I think I showed you don't have to be a liberal McCarthyist anti-Semite to think the war was a bad idea. So it's kind of a bizarre insult he's trying to create. "They're in the majority- but they thought it first! And that's bad!"

[Edited on 8/10/2006 by Marley]


Jerry - 8/10/2006 at 01:48 AM

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Cynthia has more time to work on her hair. Yay.


Did you see what Ms. McKinney called an attack "on my assistant by a member of the press. Yes, someone in this room right now "

I think she had better go back and view the videotape and find out why her driver, not her "assistant" needed stitches.


SquatchTexas - 8/10/2006 at 02:31 AM

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Cynthia has more time to work on her hair. Yay.


Did you see what Ms. McKinney called an attack "on my assistant by a member of the press. Yes, someone in this room right now "

I think she had better go back and view the videotape and find out why her driver, not her "assistant" needed stitches.


Actually Ive only just heard about this. I havent seen a link or anything to video. Frankly, Im not that interested as she is pretty far out there with this sort of thing. Sad really. The Dems have a long way to go and the sooner the jettison the dead weight, the sooner they can start recovering lost ground and voters.


Denza - 8/10/2006 at 03:02 AM

Here's a link...I know, I know, it's FOX, but I saw a footage by some of the local Atlanta stations and this captured it about the best. Be sure to hang on until the end where her staffers break out with "mother******* crackers" and the ensuing anti-semite remarks. Good ridance indeed. I know poeple here who went to vote just to get rid of her. To think this crew has and was again wanting to represent people of Georgia and the democrats respectively.

http://www.foxnews.com/video2/launchPage.html?080906/080906_sr_wilson&E xit%20Strategy&Special_Report&Rep.%20Cynthia%20McKinney%20loses%20G eorgia%20primary%2C%20but%20doesn%27t%20go%20quietly&Politics&-1&am p;Exit%20Strategy&Video%20Launch%20Page&News

Don't let the door hit ya where the good lord split ya McKinney...somewhere some Capitol police are smiling.


Mike - 8/10/2006 at 03:13 AM

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Here's a link...I know, I know, it's FOX, but I saw a footage by some of the local Atlanta stations and this captured it about the best. Be sure to hang on until the end where her staffers break out with "mother******* crackers" and the ensuing anti-semite remarks. Good ridance indeed. I know poeple here who went to vote just to get rid of her. To think this crew has and was again wanting to represent people of Georgia and the democrats respectively.

http://www.foxnews.com/video2/launchPage.html?080906/080906_sr_wilson&E xit%20Strategy&Special_Report&Rep.%20Cynthia%20McKinney%20loses%20G eorgia%20primary%2C%20but%20doesn%27t%20go%20quietly&Politics&-1&am p;Exit%20Strategy&Video%20Launch%20Page&News

Don't let the door hit ya where the good lord split ya McKinney...somewhere some Capitol police are smiling.




McKinney is low class trash. Good riddance to her and congratulations to her former constituents.




Mike


SquatchTexas - 8/10/2006 at 03:22 AM

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It should but it doesn't work that way. All major projects require federal funding of some sort, matching funds or whatever.


What are you considering a major project? Our local government engages in huge projects regularly that are fully funded by local sales tax (8% ouch). Im not questioning your statement on supplemental funding, just saying that Im not seeing it here too much. State level, yes, like for highway construction.

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Your local school runs on some funds from the feds and often can't implement new programs that meet special needs of neighborhoods without fear of losing federal funds.


True, but also we have regular runs at the ballot box for bond elections which fund the lions share of any new school development. Unfortunately, this also translates into increased taxes on the part of homeowners in the affected district. Here is an example from the largest school district in San Antonio. To my knowledge, none of these projects are funded outside of the bond process.

http://www.neisd.net/constr/bondstatusreport.html

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State Medicaid programs run on federal funds. Squatch, I'd bet part of your paycheck comes from federal funds.


As I understand it, my salary comes from the general fund which is money collected through property taxes for the most part. Now, if I was assigned to a grant program such as drug interdiction or an auto theft program like VTRAP, then yes, we would receive supplemental federal funding.

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That's why I say #1 priorty make sure the funding comes to my town/state.

When this government was established in 1776 it wasn't meant to be the all encompassing monster that is today.


True enough. I doubt they could have envisoned everything under the immense control of the federal government.


SquatchTexas - 8/10/2006 at 03:29 AM

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Here's a link...I know, I know, it's FOX, but I saw a footage by some of the local Atlanta stations and this captured it about the best. Be sure to hang on until the end where her staffers break out with "mother******* crackers" and the ensuing anti-semite remarks. Good ridance indeed. I know poeple here who went to vote just to get rid of her. To think this crew has and was again wanting to represent people of Georgia and the democrats respectively.

http://www.foxnews.com/video2/launchPage.html?080906/080906_sr_wilson&E xit%20Strategy&Special_Report&Rep.%20Cynthia%20McKinney%20loses%20G eorgia%20primary%2C%20but%20doesn%27t%20go%20quietly&Politics&-1&am p;Exit%20Strategy&Video%20Launch%20Page&News

Don't let the door hit ya where the good lord split ya McKinney...somewhere some Capitol police are smiling.


Jesus, thats a mess. Her security is the "New" Black Panthers? Lovely. I wonder what would happen if there were a white candidate that used the KKK as their security...

The racial slurs were horrible. Unreal.

Good riddance and thankfully the guy that won seems low key and most of all, sane.

EDIT to add:

PS: I dont mind FOX news at all as long as they back up what they claim and in this case, they did and then some.

[Edited on 8/10/2006 by SquatchTexas]


BigDaveOnBass - 8/10/2006 at 03:31 AM

I try not to hate anybody, but I got as much use for McKinney and her ilk as I do a tornado.


fast43 - 8/10/2006 at 03:44 AM

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It should but it doesn't work that way. All major projects require federal funding of some sort, matching funds or whatever.


What are you considering a major project? Our local government engages in huge projects regularly that are fully funded by local sales tax (8% ouch). Im not questioning your statement on supplemental funding, just saying that Im not seeing it here too much. State level, yes, like for highway construction.


Yes highways for one. Your Rep must not be very good at getting monies. The first stages of a new bridge to cross the Ohio River has begun. I was in Chicago this past weekend and they had a couple major highway projects going on.
Federal funds helped expand our airport which led to UPS locating their hub here. Which has created many jobs and brought many businesses to Louisville, KY.

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Your local school runs on some funds from the feds and often can't implement new programs that meet special needs of neighborhoods without fear of losing federal funds.


True, but also we have regular runs at the ballot box for bond elections which fund the lions share of any new school development. Unfortunately, this also translates into increased taxes on the part of homeowners in the affected district. Here is an example from the largest school district in San Antonio. To my knowledge, none of these projects are funded outside of the bond process.

http://www.neisd.net/constr/bondstatusreport.html


If federal monies don't go to the local level why is the NEA one of the biggest lobbys in Washington?


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That's why I say #1 priorty make sure the funding comes to my town/state.

When this government was established in 1776 it wasn't meant to be the all encompassing monster that is today.


True enough. I doubt they could have envisoned everything under the immense control of the federal government.


Right there is why I lean conservative. There needs to less things under the control of the federal government and more control at the local level.


Benjamin - 8/10/2006 at 10:55 AM

Bill! Back away from the computer...


fast43 - 8/10/2006 at 04:26 PM

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Bill! Back away from the computer...


I hear you

I must of had a moment of temporary insanity


or maybe permanent insanity


Bobo - 8/10/2006 at 04:36 PM

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Bill! Back away from the computer...


I hear you

I must of had a moment of temporary insanity


or maybe permanent insanity


There's Federally Funded help for you, Bill..........


fast43 - 8/10/2006 at 04:39 PM

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Bill! Back away from the computer...


I hear you

I must of had a moment of temporary insanity


or maybe permanent insanity


There's Federally Funded help for you, Bill..........


Bring those $$$$$$$$$$$$ on


Bobo - 8/10/2006 at 04:54 PM

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Bill! Back away from the computer...


I hear you

I must of had a moment of temporary insanity


or maybe permanent insanity


There's Federally Funded help for you, Bill..........


Bring those $$$$$$$$$$$$ on


Hold on there, Citizen - there are strings attached, you know.............


fast43 - 8/10/2006 at 05:06 PM

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Bill! Back away from the computer...


I hear you

I must of had a moment of temporary insanity


or maybe permanent insanity


There's Federally Funded help for you, Bill..........


Bring those $$$$$$$$$$$$ on


Hold on there, Citizen - there are strings attached, you know.............


I have a sharp pocket knife to cut those strings


Bobo - 8/10/2006 at 05:11 PM

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Bill! Back away from the computer...


I hear you

I must of had a moment of temporary insanity


or maybe permanent insanity


There's Federally Funded help for you, Bill..........


Bring those $$$$$$$$$$$$ on


Hold on there, Citizen - there are strings attached, you know.............


I have a sharp pocket knife to cut those strings


Perhaps, but how much $$$$ do you have to contribute to me so that I might assist in cutting those strings??


DerekFromCincinnati - 8/10/2006 at 06:37 PM

Did anyone see Randy Rhodes o Larry King last night. The whining about Israel was ad naseum. What I love is when commentators call out the negatives about Israel front and center. But when they talk about hezbollah, they say the negatives in te context of "Israel will tell you that Hezbollah is this and that." They can't call Hezbollah what they really are.

I'll ask it again, is Hezbollah defending southern Lebanon, and how can that be done if Israel pulled out of Southern lebanon six years ago. Why are they there? Why did they fire rockets into Israel and kidnap two soldiers??


Jerry - 8/10/2006 at 07:30 PM

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Actually Ive only just heard about this. I havent seen a link or anything to video. Frankly, Im not that interested as she is pretty far out there with this sort of thing. Sad really. The Dems have a long way to go and the sooner the jettison the dead weight, the sooner they can start recovering lost ground and voters.


here's the link to WSB TV news investigation. Seems the same guy tried to take out one of their reporters on the steps of the Capitol Building.

http://www.wsbtv.com/video/9656581/index.html

Bgin edit: PS, the guy is paid with federal funds, your taxes!!!!

[Edited on 8/10/2006 by Jerry]


Denza - 8/10/2006 at 08:29 PM

Yeah, they are only playing the watered down version on the local channels. My link in the earlier post has the interesting version. Steve Mohammed, who is McKinney's bodyguard that assulted the cameraman may also be remembered as this guy...



Cynthia McKinney bodyguard Steve Muhammad as he appeared in the 1973 film Enter The Dragon.


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