Thread: 10 grateful dead shows you gotta have!!

allmanfanfromsweden - 5/9/2005 at 02:05 PM

ive been a dead fan for 11 years now..a couple of months ago i found out about the goldmine called archive.org with tons of dead shows..everybody who loves the dead have their fave era..i have the sixties as my fave dead era and 77 and many more..
i have a friends who is kind of a newbie to the dead and i wonder if anybody hear can recomend 10 great and legendary dead shows from 60,70,80,90 ties that you gotta have if your a dead fan or about to become one..i have not clue what shows to choose for him..but its present and i want your help if there are any deadheads here to give me a selection of 10 great soudning (soundborad,maybe?)and legendary dead shows from the sixties to 95..

i would be very thankful..


KnownRider - 5/9/2005 at 02:28 PM

Start with 5/8/77. Most people will tell you that and they would be correct.


CowboyNeil - 5/9/2005 at 02:29 PM

4/8/74 Roosevelt Stadium ,Jersey City New Jersey. Wall Of Sound


EddieP - 5/9/2005 at 02:40 PM

Picking your fave Dead shows is about 10 times harder than picking your favorite ABB show since there are so many more shows and different band eras to choose from. I will do my best to give you some of my favorite shows and DeadHead favorites through the years....

2/27/69
4/27/69
2/18, 2/19 and 2/20, 1971
4/8/72 - a MUST have...
5/26/72
8/27/72 - a MUST have...
8/6/74 - a MUST have...Roosevelt Stadium!...in my home town.
10/18/74
10/19/74
2/26/77 - Debut versions of Terrapin(opened the show), The Wheel and Estimated Prophet...
5/8/77 - a MUST have....
4/16 and 4/17/83 - Steven Stills sits in...
9/18/87 - MSG, best 1980's Morning Dew

I'll have to think of a few more - there are literally 100 shows that could be listed here easily...





[Edited on 5/9/2005 by EddieP]


foppa - 5/9/2005 at 02:42 PM

Early Dick's picks 1-12 or so is one place to start, as well.
These usually have good-great sound quality, which is
not necessarily the case on some archive.org options.
For me, poor sound quality distracts from an outstanding
performance.


EddieP - 5/9/2005 at 02:43 PM

quote:
4/8/74 Roosevelt Stadium ,Jersey City New Jersey. Wall Of Sound


The date of that show Neil is actually 8/6/74...I listed it as well. ...It might be my favorite show of all time...just incredible.


CowboyNeil - 5/9/2005 at 03:16 PM

Ya think I would get the date right since I was THERE, or was I? Its a good juan, thanks for covering my back Eddie


tommars - 5/9/2005 at 03:35 PM

2/13- 2/14 1970. Available as Dicks Picks 4.

I don't have the exact dates in front of me but I reccomend

the Veneta, Oregon 8/72 show. The Creamery Benefit . Wow.

5/8/77 - Cornell of course and I also think the show from Buffalo the same weekend is a must have. Between the 2 shows you get Scarlet Fire and Help Slip Franklins plus all the great first set tunes like Peggy - O , Brown Eyed woman...etc.

6/9 & 6/10 1973 RFK. 3rd set of 6/10 has a jam with Dickey and Garcia going at it on Johnny B . Goode.

Yep, Anything from 74 and the wall of sound is killer. Roosevelt Std, especially and Dicks Picks 12 which is Providence Civic Center ?

There are some great shows from MSG 1987 and I would get the Hampton VA 1989 show where they were billed as the Warlocks. Sorry I'm bad with the exact dates. I'm killing time at work here. I recall a great Philly show from 87 as well.

Also look for the 6/85, 20th Anniversary shows from the Greek theatre in Berkley, CA.

I'm real partial to 1990. Track down 3/28 and 3/29 Nassau. Great shows. 3/29 is where Branford Marsalis sat in for the second set which has my favorite version of one of my all time favorite tunes. : Eyes of the World.

For post Brent Era, I've been hearing that Cal Expo summer 1993 is a must have and the MSG shows that year are cool because Jerry had a new guitar that and an effect that made his solo's sound almost like he was playing them on an acoustic.

Any 60's show with the Dark Star, St Stephen the Eleven > Lovelight are killer. Can't think of any specifics but you cant' go wrong with anything out of the Fillmore West or Avalon Ballroom. I think 2 from the vault captures this era perfectly.


les_paul_sunburst - 5/9/2005 at 03:59 PM

quote:
Start with 5/8/77. Most people will tell you that and they would be correct.


That was the one suggested to me by a good friend and self proclaimed Deadhead when i asked a similiar question. He burned it for me and man..was I impressed.....

A must have....


funkngrooves - 5/9/2005 at 06:48 PM

08/06/71 (Fri) Hollywood Palladium - Hollywood, CA

Set 1: Bertha, Playing In The Band, Loser, Mr. Charlie, Cumberland Blues, Brokedown Palace, Me And Bobby McGee, Hard To Handle, Casey Jones

Set 2: St. Stephen, Truckin' > Drums > The Other One > Me & My Uncle > The Other One, Deal, Sugar Magnolia, Morning Dew, Lovelight


that's some raw, hard rockin' dead right there, my friends


CowboyNeil - 5/9/2005 at 07:15 PM

I don't have the show in front of me but I believe it is May 77 from Tuscaloosa U of Alabama show is an extremely hot show . Qaulity recording, must be off the board.

[Edited on 5/9/2005 by CowboyNeil]


KnownRider - 5/9/2005 at 07:23 PM

Yea that one smokes. One of my favorites.


blueskyJohnson - 5/9/2005 at 09:26 PM

My favorite is Ladies and Gentlemen the Grateful Dead from Fillmore East April 1971. Tight jams and excellent vocals. Another good one is Dozin' at the Knick 3/24-3/26.


dutchoneill - 5/9/2005 at 09:33 PM

quote:
ive been a dead fan for 11 years now..a couple of months ago i found out about the goldmine called archive.org with tons of dead shows..everybody who loves the dead have their fave era..i have the sixties as my fave dead era and 77 and many more..
i have a friends who is kind of a newbie to the dead and i wonder if anybody hear can recomend 10 great and legendary dead shows from 60,70,80,90 ties that you gotta have if your a dead fan or about to become one..i have not clue what shows to choose for him..but its present and i want your help if there are any deadheads here to give me a selection of 10 great soudning (soundborad,maybe?)and legendary dead shows from the sixties to 95..


i would be very thankful..


How do you use Archeive.Org, it doesn't seem real intuitive




[Edited on 5/9/2005 by dutchoneill]


RobJohnson - 5/9/2005 at 10:05 PM

5/15/70 has the best acoustic Dead I've ever heard, and is worth tracking down for that.

For a good late 80s show, I'll endorse one I went to: 10/18/88 in New Orleans. Unfortunately, the only time I really got to see Jerry at the top of his game. Check out the guitar solo in Not Fade Away! That is some FIRE! Speaking of which, great versions of the Scarlet>Fire and Estimated>Eyes combos from this show.

Frankly, you could put a bunch of calendars from 1969-74 on a wall, throw a dart, and probably come up with a good Dead show!


merlin28 - 5/9/2005 at 11:55 PM

Best 10?????

Try Top 100 at least. Good god, don't get me started.

Rather than write up a doctoral dissertation here, will just recommend two ultimate runs from the original lineup:

2/27, 2/28. 3/1, and 3/2/69 from the Fillmore West
4/25 through 4/29/71 Fillmore East. 4/29/71 is the last GD performance at the Fillmore East, and they rise to the occassion BIGTIME!

Start with that and get back me. HAH HAH!


jdolan - 5/10/2005 at 01:28 AM

Have to agree on 8-27-72 show. It's one of my favorites.


toovakynd - 5/10/2005 at 01:36 AM

The "formerly the Warlocks" shows- both nights(10/8-9/89) from Hampton Coliseum, one of my favorite places to see the boys back in the day(and what a day it was! )
My favorite Hampton runs made for good sets- 4/13-14/84 sticks out as a nice pair.

Like Merlin said, though:10????

Of special interest to you fans in Europe would be 3/28/81 at Gruga Halle in Essen, (West)Germany- They shared the bill with The Who and Pete Townshend joins them for a rocking version of Not Fade Away. This show was broadcast on Rockpalast on TV and video of it is out there as well.
ANNND.... Ah just get every one you can.


redspruce26 - 5/10/2005 at 02:11 AM

once again 5-8-77,but i think the otherone to have is albany 3-24-90,the first night af a three day run before nassua.what a fun weekend.another good one is paris france 5-3-72.i assume you have urope '72rest in peace jerry


WharfRat - 5/10/2005 at 02:52 AM

Geez, this is like asking me what my favorite beer is out of a case.

They are ALL good

Seriously, if you want to get them hooked, find some stuff 71 or earlier...

PRIMAL PIGPEN!!!!


mikev - 5/10/2005 at 04:23 AM

love late '69 into fall of '70 there so much great stuff in that year.
Chicago 4/27/69(?), SMU 12/26/69, Fillmore Aud. 11/8/69, Thelma Theater 12/12/69
6/7/70 Fillmore, 6/24/70 and 11/6/70 Port Chester
8-6-71 Hollywood -great show , great recording
8-1-73 Roosevelt Jer B-day show (so many good ones this year)
'74 too many to list but a few Louisville Ky, Winterland 10/74, Springfield Ma
'76 Boston, Chicago, Beacon
'77 San Bernadino, Cornell, Tuscaloosa, Al, Winterland 6/77, Cotterll Univ. 11/77
'78 Egypt and Winterland 10/20
'83 MSG 10/11/83, Vermont and Meadowlands w/ Stills
'85 my favorite month... June~ 6/16 Greek, 6/27 SPAC, 6/28 Hershey, 7/1 Merriweather
'89 7/9 Meadowlands, 10/8&9 Hampton (Warlocks), 10/19&20 Philly
'90 3/22 Copps, 3/24 Albany, 7/23 TinleyPk, 9/20 MSG, 12/12/90 Denver
'91 9/10 MSG, 10/27 Oakland, 10/31 Oakland
well there's my 10
you'd probably get a similar answer if you asked me my favorite color or Beatles song


dzobo - 5/10/2005 at 06:33 AM

An archive.org show that captures the energy of the early Dead with very decent sound (FM recording) is the 2-14-68 show at the Carousel Ballroom in San Francisco.


otherhandmer - 5/10/2005 at 06:57 AM

I agree with the majority on 5/8/77 at Cornell, and 8/27/72 at the Faire Grounds. Very hot stuff. I've always been torn by most of the '70s because it was , for the most part, the very best playing by the Dead. Unfortunately, it also featured the horrific catawalling ( is that the right word?) of Donna. She's just horrible.

Here a few more:

Dick's Picks Vol. 8 at Harpur College is just PHENOM! Acoustic Dead and raw electric Dead. Disc 1 is great acoustic with some real early gems, Disc 2 is the typically great second set we've come to know over the years with St. Steve >Cryptical > Drums > Other One > Cryptical. Disc 3 draws out the jams with 2 tunes over 10 minutes and 2 over 15 minutes and a great Bid You Goodnight to close.

June 16, 1974 at the Des Moines State Fairgrounds is a top 5 for me. Thanks to nugs.net for turning me on to this great show. To borrow from their intro about the show, this should make you want to listen to this show: The Playing in the Band is a half hour long. Keith's hammering the warbley Fender Rhodes throughout the whole show. The Eyes>Big River is one of my all time favorite grooves. This three set brontasaurus takes you all over the map.
Please, for your own safety, and the safety of those around you, do not attempt to operate any heavy machinery while listening to this show!


KnownRider - 5/10/2005 at 03:44 PM

quote:
How do you use Archeive.Org, it doesn't seem real intuitive


1) Download the shn files into a folder (right click).
2) Convert the shn files to mp3s (you will need some shareware).
3) Then load the mp3s into your cd burner software (watch the order).
4) Burn the cd.
5) Take the new cd, put it into your stereo, spark one up, and ENJOY.


dutchoneill - 5/10/2005 at 06:42 PM

quote:
quote:
How do you use Archeive.Org, it doesn't seem real intuitive


1) Download the shn files into a folder (right click).
2) Convert the shn files to mp3s (you will need some shareware).
3) Then load the mp3s into your cd burner software (watch the order).
4) Burn the cd.
5) Take the new cd, put it into your stereo, spark one up, and ENJOY.



Thank You


WharfRat - 5/10/2005 at 10:21 PM

Mp3's???? Nooooooooooooooooooooo


dutchoneill - 5/10/2005 at 10:40 PM

quote:
Mp3's???? Nooooooooooooooooooooo


That got my attention Chuck...No Mp3's for me.


WharfRat - 5/10/2005 at 11:08 PM

Well, they are ok for your own use.. Just not to trade


dutchoneill - 5/10/2005 at 11:15 PM

quote:
Well, they are ok for your own use.. Just not to trade


Not a fan of the MP3 and the ipods and the related gizmos


otherhandmer - 5/10/2005 at 11:16 PM

Is it true that when you use FLAC Frontend and MKW Audio Compress to convert files for burning that it becomes an mp3 file? If so, how do I burn a shn file (or flac file) to a disc to take with me?

Can someone clarify, please.


dutchoneill - 5/11/2005 at 01:36 AM

quote:
Is it true that when you use FLAC Frontend and MKW Audio Compress to convert files for burning that it becomes an mp3 file? If so, how do I burn a shn file (or flac file) to a disc to take with me?

Can someone clarify, please.


Maybe I'm answering the wrong question here but....when I get a SHN file and use the MKW frontend, it becomes an audio file. It converts the SHN to audio as it puts it on your harddrive. I think....


WharfRat - 5/11/2005 at 01:49 AM

yup

MP3 = bad
Wav = good


otherhandmer - 5/11/2005 at 02:43 AM

quote:
yup

MP3 = bad
Wav = good


Hey Marley. Is your above quote in reference to mine :

Is it true that when you use FLAC Frontend and MKW Audio Compress to convert files for burning that it becomes an mp3 file? If so, how do I burn a shn file (or flac file) to a disc to take with me?

Can someone clarify, please.


To be direct: I download a show in FLAC/SHN, then use Flac Frontend/MKW Audio Compression to convert the files to wav, then burn those files to cd. Is this ok to trade?


WharfRat - 5/11/2005 at 03:03 AM

quote:
To be direct: I download a show in FLAC/SHN, then use Flac Frontend/MKW Audio Compression to convert the files to wav, then burn those files to cd. Is this ok to trade?





ABBsolutely


otherhandmer - 5/11/2005 at 07:31 AM

quote:
quote:
To be direct: I download a show in FLAC/SHN, then use Flac Frontend/MKW Audio Compression to convert the files to wav, then burn those files to cd. Is this ok to trade?





ABBsolutely


Thanks. That's what I thought all along but got confused by some of the dialog earlier on in this thread.


KnownRider - 5/11/2005 at 02:54 PM

quote:
Maybe I'm answering the wrong question here but....when I get a SHN file and use the MKW frontend, it becomes an audio file. It converts the SHN to audio as it puts it on your harddrive. I think


Yea. Sorry Dutch. I got my nomenklature mixed up. The end result sounds good.


Stephane - 5/11/2005 at 11:40 PM

5-8-77 seems to be a favorite with lots of folks. I'd like to give it a listen (no GD but lost of other band to trade).


Stephane - 6/13/2005 at 10:45 PM

otherhandmer enlightened me with 5/8/77 (fantastic performance, great sound), where should I go from here?


jim - 6/14/2005 at 12:52 AM

I agree with just about everything people have said here. I think Tom talked about the Cal Expo run in the spring of '93. I went to those shows and the preceeding 3 before that at Shoreline. I think some of the moments at Cal Expo that run may be some of the last great moments the Dead had. I know this will sound crazy, but I believe 5/26/93 may have the best if not one of the best Playin in the Band's ever, and that includes the ones from '74. It's like this last piece of magic they pulled out of the hat. You should get that whole run, there are some really fine moments. Like I said it's like they found the old magic just a few more times. THere is a great Gloria as an encore one of the nights that is rockin as well.


Sherrick - 6/14/2005 at 01:05 AM

quote:
Is it true that when you use FLAC Frontend and MKW Audio Compress to convert files for burning that it becomes an mp3 file? If so, how do I burn a shn file (or flac file) to a disc to take with me?

Can someone clarify, please.


no, they become .wav files, and are suitable for burning to take with you.


Sherrick - 6/14/2005 at 01:08 AM

I would reccomend picking a show from random areas in the archive and streaming it to hear what that era generally sounded like...I beleive the Dead shows are streamable...some of them, anyhow.

11/7/69 is good
Live/Dead recording run 2/27/69-3/2/69
anything from 74.
5/16/93 Las Vegas is cool
6/9/77 set 2 is awesome
3/29/90 and anything with Branford is sweet.


ILABB - 6/14/2005 at 03:33 AM

Thanx for the Dead"Heads" up


aekdbmoid - 6/21/2005 at 03:35 AM

Bumping this one back up--what a useful thread!


StratDal - 6/21/2005 at 11:11 AM

I had fun at the Red Rocks shows back in September 1983 especially the first night. Also some of the Irvine Medows shows jammed too.


tedray - 8/8/2005 at 11:20 PM

Rather than point out individual shows, it can also be informative for newer folks to tell 'em about the different "phases" that GD music went thru.
68-71 Good old GD, with Pig still around, great cowboy tunes, blues workouts, psychedelic jams, electrified bluegrass
72-74 Height of the psychedelic jam era
76-79 More focused, more lyrical jams, more and more songs into the playlist
80-85 Contrasting trends- Jer's drug problems slowly eat away at health, still many fantastic shows to be heard, but less band communication in the jams. More influence from Bob and Brent
86-early 89 Personal opinion here- marking of time-still lotsa good 'uns, but creative peaks are levelling out
late 89-91 Phoenix, Jerry really rises again, some fantastic playing, tons of new songs, some of the jams cover same old ground, but others seem fresh
92-94 downhill
OK, like I said, personal opinion. Any other comments?


bottleneck07 - 8/9/2005 at 02:38 AM

quote:
Well, they are ok for your own use.. Just not to trade

Why can you not trade mp3 cds?


ABB320 - 8/9/2005 at 04:06 AM

I saw someone selling the cornell show for $30 yesterday
Bootleggerz


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